OK, Where's the Baby? Part 7 [OKBaby]

[staceymj]

Part of me wonders, when they' ll break up, will Oscar try to take the kids just to be spiteful? Then pass them to his mom or a sitter or something of course since he doesn't seem interested in the responsability. Sometimes I feel like Kyra is enough of a doormat that she wouldn't be able to fight him off.

In one of their comment of the days they said that if they broke up theyd file for 50/50 custody. I have no idea why Kyra would ever agree to that though.. No matter how great or how horrible Oscar may be, I think the kids should be primarily with Kyra. Babies need their mom (unless something is wrong like shes a drug addict or whatever). Even now, Levi looks to Kyra when hes hurt or upset. It was shocking to me that Kyra agreed to 50/50

It's easy to say something when it's hypothetical. I bet if it came down to it, Kyra would not be ok with 50/50 in reality. And if they lived in the real world where you need to work and you have kids that need to be taken to daycare/school, they need consistency and routine. They don't need to be shipped from house to house from week to week. If it came down to it, I doubt Kyra would really be ok with 50/50.


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[future_wifey]

Wait a second did Keira seriously say if your a teen and u get pregnant it's ok! Yeah and keeping your baby out at 2am is a brilliant idea I can't believe she let him take Levi out that late, why on earth is Levi sleeping in the bathroom wouldn't Keira be needing to use the restroom in the middle of the night!


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I think she says that because teenagers are ashamed and scared when they get pregnant. She's just trying to take away some of the negative stigma attached to teen pregnancy, not encourage teens to get pregnant.

Britney was so realistic in her videos when she was 18. I remember one where she was like, "I get so many messages from young girls saying that they WANT to be teen parents. You don't want this. You have NO IDEA what you're saying or getting yourself into."

Compared to Britney, Kyra looks like a child playing house with kid(s). I still don't think Kyra has ANY idea what she's getting herself into.

[future_wifey]

Part of me wonders, when they' ll break up, will Oscar try to take the kids just to be spiteful? Then pass them to his mom or a sitter or something of course since he doesn't seem interested in the responsability. Sometimes I feel like Kyra is enough of a doormat that she wouldn't be able to fight him off.

In one of their comment of the days they said that if they broke up theyd file for 50/50 custody. I have no idea why Kyra would ever agree to that though.. No matter how great or how horrible Oscar may be, I think the kids should be primarily with Kyra. Babies need their mom (unless something is wrong like shes a drug addict or whatever). Even now, Levi looks to Kyra when hes hurt or upset. It was shocking to me that Kyra agreed to 50/50

It's easy to say something when it's hypothetical. I bet if it came down to it, Kyra would not be ok with 50/50 in reality. And if they lived in the real world where you need to work and you have kids that need to be taken to daycare/school, they need consistency and routine. They don't need to be shipped from house to house from week to week. If it came down to it, I doubt Kyra would really be ok with 50/50.


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I babysat for a family that did 50/50 with the kids switching houses every day basically and it was so weird to me. I'm a person who loves consistency and routine. I would go crazy having to do that my entire life (they divorced when the kids were very young).


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[lmmomSD]

We did almost 50/50 (I was more like 60℅)when my ex was in school. I had them Monday and Thursday, and every other weekend, so on my weekend, I had them Thursday-Tuesday morning. They were OK, because they knew where they were supposed to be when. It was a stable routine. Much better than not seeing one of us, or living with both of us fighting. You can make it work. The biggest thing is to always put the kids first and not be selfish and bad mouth your ex, or fight in front of the kids.

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[BlueMountains]

Okay, I've been on holiday for the last few weeks and I've missed a lot. What's new?

Still annoyingly behind on vlogs, oscar being a lazy dad and sleeping all day when his family is there. Kyra went christmas shopping for levi day before christmas and now has a new tradition of opening gifts on christmas eve. ( doesn't make sense to me but im sure other families do it too) now as if levi's sleep schedule isn't messed up already they traveled to vegas to see all of kyras family which is surprisingly nice but poor levi is doing more car trips, sleeping in pack and play and no schedule ( being up until 12 am..) just the same trashy mess that we watch every vlog!

We kinda do that, my grandpa used to work on Christmas day so they started doing it on Christmas eve. Now we have the extended family Christmas eve, and do their presents that day. The next day we spend it with our individual families.

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[daisy1000]

We did almost 50/50 (I was more like 60℅)when my ex was in school. I had them Monday and Thursday, and every other weekend, so on my weekend, I had them Thursday-Tuesday morning. They were OK, because they knew where they were supposed to be when. It was a stable routine. Much better than not seeing one of us, or living with both of us fighting. You can make it work. The biggest thing is to always put the kids first and not be selfish and bad mouth your ex, or fight in front of the kids.

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Exactly! I never been in a situation like this and I know at least some of us know someone who is in this kind of situation. Depending on the parents, this type of situation can be normal. It's not ideal, but it happens.

In my opinion, I feel like Kyra and Oscar could ever work it out like that. Oscar would hype the children up, hog up most of the time, and be the "fun parent" making it difficult for Kyra when he brings the kids back home.


And sometimes I wonder how Oscar's family and Kyra's family feel about them not being married but are capable of planning babies?

[alexandramarie]

I have said this before but I'm just going to say it again. I don't like to put gender roles on parents but generally a kid WAY prefers his/her mother when they are babies because they have had a longer time to connect with them, than a father and the child. And usually a lot of dad's are working dad's. So when Buggy literally didn't like Kyra that was so weird! Even some of the worst mothers out there their babies love them. Oscar was such a "Levi hogger" which was so selfish and pissed me off at first I thought because Kyra was cold but now I think it was more oscars manipulative behavior. Like if he thought Buggy wasn't going to like him as much if he was working etc. that was so stupid because many kids have working dad's and still love their dads a lot. It just shows how immature he was (if he thought that way) that's why I am so unbelievably happy that Levi is connecting more with Kyra and less with Oscar because Oscar is a f*ing lazy ass that needs to stop running away from the responsibilities of looking after his child. He literally only cares about the fun stuff. Like dude he's your son not your best friend!


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[vesti]

I had to stop watching these two idiots, I haven't watched since October ans recently tried to hate-watch some of their videos (and the equally appalling Sam and Nia) and I just couldn't do it. They're too annoying. But I still like coming here to read what dumb shit they get up to lol

[alexandramarie]

I am not a mother. But I have an amazing mom and I have been brought up with people who have amazing mothers as well. So I know what a "good" parent is like. So if I was to fall pregnant now I feel that I would be somewhat prepared. I obviously know that no matter how prepared you are you will struggle. But Kyra clearly never had any good influences around her which has made her clueless in some areas. I remember in one of her kbaby vids or maybe comment of the day she said something a long the lines of "I have never needed help" like seriously girl even the best mothers need advice. She also tweeted once saying "how do you help a babies fever" like firstly it was so immature and kind of sad that she tweeted it and couldn't phone someone to ask.


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[alexandramarie]

Who here would rather be alone and poor for the rest of their life than be with an Oscar. Because I would. It sounds over dramatic but I honestly find him horrendous


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[mac-n-cheese]

Wtf.
Why would oscar have levi out until 2am...he probably didn't get to bed until 3 or 4 am...

If oscar planned on being out in Vegas that late why wouldn't he have just left levi with his mother...

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

I honestly feel like when levi and mini bug get older, oscar will be the parent that tries to be their kid's best friend. like he will be so lax especially with levi (not mini bug bc he will prob be the super macho overprotective dad). I have a bad feeling that levi and his sister might be in for a really bad teen years bc of O and K's lax parenting and no enforcement of rules or schedules. hopefully they dont repeat their parents' teen pregnancy mistakes. Altho, they did say oscar's mom was a teen when she was pregnant with oscar and this kind of stuff is almost heritable in pattern.

Also, i 110% agree with babies need a COMPETENT parent, regardless of gender! I plan to be working quite a bit when i'm a doctor, and my husband will have more time with the kids. I have seen many people who were raised like that and who turned out just fine!

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

I'm sorry but kyra saying that she doesnt support teen pregnancy or endorse it and then normalizes it and says it's ok is basically condoning it. She portrays herself as this uber successful teen mom, and in that way feeds into the unrealistic expectations that most teen moms who dont get lucky like she did with youtube are also always/easily super happy and successful and never struggle. That just isnt the truth. most teen moms dont have a stable partner who will help them raise their children. Many of them havent finished school or have stable jobs or a way to offer that kid a comfortable life. oftentimes it comes with a ton of sacrifice, long hours of working and dumping their kids at daycare or with grandma or something and unreliable partners. Again not all but the vast majority of it. It is hard to be a parent--raising kids (and raising them right especially) requires so much time, effort, commitment, and work--and being a teen parent is even harder. Kyra sitting there in her privilege and saying how easy it is is downright insulting and is absolutely promoting teen pregnancy whether she wants to be or not.

[bibby]

I have a very strong suspicion that Kyra's NEED for having like four kids ASAP stems from her background/family issues and how she's never really been/felt unconditionally loved before, and is trying desperately to get that feeling from having children because she feels like she will get the unconditional love from them that she never really had.

Honestly I kind of get it, sometimes I feel the same way, but it's so selfish to force that feeling, especially when you could wait longer, get yourself an education, be more mature, find a non-insane life partner, and just generally provide a more stable and healthy life for your children.

[ACarATorchAJess]

I have a very strong suspicion that Kyra's NEED for having like four kids ASAP stems from her background/family issues and how she's never really been/felt unconditionally loved before, and is trying desperately to get that feeling from having children because she feels like she will get the unconditional love from them that she never really had.

Honestly I kind of get it, sometimes I feel the same way, but it's so selfish to force that feeling, especially when you could wait longer, get yourself an education, be more mature, find a non-insane life partner, and just generally provide a more stable and healthy life for your children.

If that's true, I get that. I had a hard childhood and I want kids so I can show them the love I never got. It's understandable. I think Kyra is really trying..honest. But Oscar is holding her back.

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[webbygurl626]

I'm sorry but kyra saying that she doesnt support teen pregnancy or endorse it and then normalizes it and says it's ok is basically condoning it. She portrays herself as this uber successful teen mom, and in that way feeds into the unrealistic expectations that most teen moms who dont get lucky like she did with youtube are also always/easily super happy and successful and never struggle. That just isnt the truth. most teen moms dont have a stable partner who will help them raise their children. Many of them havent finished school or have stable jobs or a way to offer that kid a comfortable life. oftentimes it comes with a ton of sacrifice, long hours of working and dumping their kids at daycare or with grandma or something and unreliable partners. Again not all but the vast majority of it. It is hard to be a parent--raising kids (and raising them right especially) requires so much time, effort, commitment, and work--and being a teen parent is even harder. Kyra sitting there in her privilege and saying how easy it is is downright insulting and is absolutely promoting teen pregnancy whether she wants to be or not.

Completely agree I couldn't have said it any better! She really needs to come to terms with the reality of her situation and she really needs Oscar on board but I get the feeling he doesn't care!


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[ecf997]

I'm sorry but kyra saying that she doesnt support teen pregnancy or endorse it and then normalizes it and says it's ok is basically condoning it. She portrays herself as this uber successful teen mom, and in that way feeds into the unrealistic expectations that most teen moms who dont get lucky like she did with youtube are also always/easily super happy and successful and never struggle. That just isnt the truth. most teen moms dont have a stable partner who will help them raise their children. Many of them havent finished school or have stable jobs or a way to offer that kid a comfortable life. oftentimes it comes with a ton of sacrifice, long hours of working and dumping their kids at daycare or with grandma or something and unreliable partners. Again not all but the vast majority of it. It is hard to be a parent--raising kids (and raising them right especially) requires so much time, effort, commitment, and work--and being a teen parent is even harder. Kyra sitting there in her privilege and saying how easy it is is downright insulting and is absolutely promoting teen pregnancy whether she wants to be or not.

THIS. I really respect moms like Britney and Vanessa (2011teenagemom) for stating bluntly that while they love their kids, they do NOT condone the choices they made despite the fact that they live happily with them. I remember a few years back, Vanessa did a video in response to some of her younger subscribers commenting that they wanted to be teenage moms, and she responded that you can't possibly understand the toll it takes 24/7 to raise a child. Kyra is too young and immature to fully realize this, though I think it'll come as a very rude wakeup call when baby #2 arrives and she won't be promoting it so much anymore Lol.

Britney and Vanessa have problems for different reasons, but I respect the maturity and self- awareness it takes to reach a point in life where you understand and can reflect maturely on the mistakes you've made. I don't care whether you choose to keep the child, give it up for adoption or whatever, but no matter your choice, you better be able to live with it. And it's downright irresponsible to convey that teen pregnancy is this magical life and you'll make tons of money vlogging or doing whatever little bullshit hobbies. (Again, not stating either of them are flawless parents, both annoy me greatly, but this is one thing I appreciate about them Lol)

[future_wifey]

I'm sorry but kyra saying that she doesnt support teen pregnancy or endorse it and then normalizes it and says it's ok is basically condoning it. She portrays herself as this uber successful teen mom, and in that way feeds into the unrealistic expectations that most teen moms who dont get lucky like she did with youtube are also always/easily super happy and successful and never struggle. That just isnt the truth. most teen moms dont have a stable partner who will help them raise their children. Many of them havent finished school or have stable jobs or a way to offer that kid a comfortable life. oftentimes it comes with a ton of sacrifice, long hours of working and dumping their kids at daycare or with grandma or something and unreliable partners. Again not all but the vast majority of it. It is hard to be a parent--raising kids (and raising them right especially) requires so much time, effort, commitment, and work--and being a teen parent is even harder. Kyra sitting there in her privilege and saying how easy it is is downright insulting and is absolutely promoting teen pregnancy whether she wants to be or not.

THIS. I really respect moms like Britney and Vanessa (2011teenagemom) for stating bluntly that while they love their kids, they do NOT condone the choices they made despite the fact that they live happily with them. I remember a few years back, Vanessa did a video in response to some of her younger subscribers commenting that they wanted to be teenage moms, and she responded that you can't possibly understand the toll it takes 24/7 to raise a child. Kyra is too young and immature to fully realize this, though I think it'll come as a very rude wakeup call when baby #2 arrives and she won't be promoting it so much anymore Lol.

Britney and Vanessa have problems for different reasons, but I respect the maturity and self- awareness it takes to reach a point in life where you understand and can reflect maturely on the mistakes you've made. I don't care whether you choose to keep the child, give it up for adoption or whatever, but no matter your choice, you better be able to live with it. And it's downright irresponsible to convey that teen pregnancy is this magical life and you'll make tons of money vlogging or doing whatever little bullshit hobbies. (Again, not stating either of them are flawless parents, both annoy me greatly, but this is one thing I appreciate about them Lol)

All of this! I also think that Vanessa and Britney have the upper hand because they have 4-5 year olds, not just the "cute little baby."
You can tell that Kyra and Keren have no clue how to discipline or do any of the hard parenting stuff that doesn't involve simply keeping the child alive on the most basic level and constantly calling them the cutest baby ever.


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[Mlburk21]

Why the heck did they even go to Vegas?!?! They are doing the exact same things they do at home. Sleep all day, edit all night. Now she's getting on YouNow! What was the point in even going?

[webbygurl626]

Haha the coffee Oscar is such an idiot so deserved!


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