JesssFam: Facing Reality w/ Daiquiris & Taco Bell (Part 87)

[Midia]

So Drake should abandon his kids because if he shows up Jess will call him a deadbeat. Thats perfectly logical?!? Wtf no, if he actually showed up to pick up the boys he wouldnt be a deadbeat. And its a hell of a lot more damaging to children for their father to never show up to pick them up, than for their mother to make a snide remark when being picked up.
Jess doesnt film him when he picks him up the 3 times a year he actually shows up, so I doubt she'll start now. Even if she tries he can ask her to stop or cover his face or whatever. Thats not an excuse to ignore his children. She was on YouTube before they started dating, Youtube is what provides his boys with food to eat and beds to sleep in. He wants to claim he doesnt need to pay child support because Jess makes money from Youtube (while buying rings and tattoos), he can't use potentially being in a clip of youtube for not picking up his children and seeing them too.
Regardless of their shitty relationship or how much he hates Jess, those are his children. He can put up with 5 minutes of seeing her to be a part of their lives. There are people who deal with a hell of a lot more to see their kids.
They should not be having more children until he is able to support (both financially and emotionally) the 4 children he has now.
Jess has made some really terrible life decisions, but Drake being a deadbeat is not mutually exclusive.

I won't say he fully abandoned them and not see them anymore. Just not as much as he should. Bella's birthday is coming up and the boys will attend her sister and Aliyah (Natalie's niece) birthday. That's what i said in my previous, that Drake should take full custody of the boys and the boys can get to see the Roque family when Drake visit his parents and cousins.

Kaden on Bella and Aliyah birthday. Photos posted by Nicole (Natalie twin)

He may have not fully abandonned them because he sees them once in a while, that doen't mean it's the best for his kids! He takes them when he feels like taking them not because his sons need him, if his sons' needs were more important that his own person, he would make more effort to take care of them more often AND regularly. I really don't get how you can think that Drake should take full custody of them!! From the way he acts towards them, there is not way Drake is a better full time parent for these boys than Jess (don't get me wrong, Jess is a mess in my opinion but she is still a better parent than him for the boys because she never abandonned them)

[Captain Smooth]

There's no excuses. If she is that much of an issue then he can call for a police escort or arrange it so that someone else makes the drop offs/exchange. Simple as that. Can't they also go to some sort of a mediation as well? He really doesn't have to be a piece of shit forever. There's still time to make things better if he would just try. I'm not going to comment on how difficult jess may or may not make things for him because it does not matter, those are 3 little lives that need him and he should do what he takes. She'd have nothing to bitch about if he just did what he was supposed to do in the first place. Maybe he's started paying child support by now, but if he didn't I'd be really upset to see he bought the girl who punched him in the face a new fancy ring.

Unpopular opinion but idgaf, I feel a smidge bad for her seeing that drake ran off and literally had the family that she desperately wanted with him, with another woman and in such a short time frame. I can see why there is so much deep seeded bitterness with her and she should seek help for it. It takes an emotionally strong person to be able to forgive someone who hurt you and she obviously isn't strong enough to do so on her own. And yes he did hurt her. Just because you think she's such a piece of shit doesn't mean that him leaving, how he left, and how he's behaved since, didn't destroy her. Plenty of things are her fault but you can't force someone to love you and even if they would of waited to have more kids and done things the 'right' way, there's no guarantee that he wouldn't have cheated or that their marriage would've even lasted.


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But when you think about it, it took at least two attempts for Natalie to have the "perfect" family that Jess wanted and during seperation he didn't attempt to see his daughter either. He might blame Jess for not being able to see the boys, but the way he treated his daughter showed, that it's really him and his selfishness. We don't know how good Drakes and Natalies relationship really is, we only know that they are still together, that could mean a lot. Jess also tried to present her relationship with Drake like the happy ever after, until she couldn't hide it any longer. Natalie was just intelligent enough not to get pregnant again, after her daughter. I think things would look a lot different, if she would have had kids like Jess did. Drake was alright with just Lilia, but as soon as he had a baby and needed to be a responsible parent, he always backs out at least once.

[LilaLavender]

Do you guys think Jessica resents her dad for having another child after he left her family the same way she resents Drake for having another child right after he left her?

[Mel1011]

He has pictures of the boys in his Facebook featured photos, but they're pictures he stole from Jess's Insta

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That is sickening, stealing those pics and acting as if they are his own memories. He just posted them for show. I wonder if he felt guilty looking at them knowing he missed out on so much? Probably not because he's a POS.

Ps. I love how some people blame Jesss for being bitter as if they wouldn't feel the same if they were in her shoes.

[notapnutmommy]

Drake has no business getting full custody of any child. He can't see his kids even as much as the custody agreement says.
Plus when he and Natalie broke up he did the same thing to his daughter. It's not like he just did it to his boys. He seems to act as if he isn't with the child's mother then the child is the mother's responsibility, not his.

[smom12]

He has pictures of the boys in his Facebook featured photos, but they're pictures he stole from Jess's Insta

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That is sickening, stealing those pics and acting as if they are his own memories. He just posted them for show. I wonder if he felt guilty looking at them knowing he missed out on so much? Probably not because he's a POS.

Ps. I love how some people blame Jesss for being bitter as if they wouldn't feel the same if they were in her shoes.

She is bitter. Are you serious? Her bitterness is the reason why she posts all that private shit on social media. Don't justify it. I was bitter with my divorce but my son NEVER hears me talk bad about his father EVER, because our son is the priority no matter how we feel about each other. They are both selfish, immature and bitter fucks who need to get heir shit straight. It CAN BE DONE. Don't justify her bitterness.


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[smom12]

I am going to say this one thing: Neither, and I say NEITHER of them should be defended or made excuses for in regards to the twins and Landen.

They were both too young and immature, they should have never had kids, but that boat has sailed.

She trapped him, he cheated on her, she is bitter.... all continue with a BUT. Nope. They are older now. BOTH OF THEM. If they would get their heads out of their respective partners' crotches for just 5 minutes, maybe they would see what was going on.

They NEED to put whatever differences/opinions aside and focus on the well being of those kids. They are gonna have a shit ton of resentment to the both of them when they get older, "why didn't you do more so we could see dad?" "Why couldn't you see us more dad"?

It is APPALLING that all this time has passed, they have BOTH moved on, but yet the kids are probably being used as pawns and weapons, or simply just discarded. And that makes me fucking sick.

Drake, keep your dick in your pants.
Jess, close your legs.

Get together and FOCUS ON THE WELL BEING OF YOUR KIDS TOGETHER.

End rant.


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[notapnutmommy]

I am going to say this one thing: Neither, and I say NEITHER of them should be defended or made excuses for in regards to the twins and Landen.

They were both too young and immature, they should have never had kids, but that boat has sailed.

She trapped him, he cheated on her, she is bitter.... all continue with a BUT. Nope. They are older now. BOTH OF THEM. If they would get their heads out of their respective partners' crotches for just 5 minutes, maybe they would see what was going on.

They NEED to put whatever differences/opinions aside and focus on the well being of those kids. They are gonna have a shit ton of resentment to the both of them when they get older, "why didn't you do more so we could see dad?" "Why couldn't you see us more dad"?

It is APPALLING that all this time has passed, they have BOTH moved on, but yet the kids are probably being used as pawns and weapons, or simply just discarded. And that makes me fucking sick.

Drake, keep your dick in your pants.
Jess, close your legs.

Get together and FOCUS ON THE WELL BEING OF YOUR KIDS TOGETHER.

End rant.


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What more should Jess be doing for the boys to see him more? He doesn't even come get them as much as the agreement states he should.
That's not on Jess. That's all on him.
If he doesn't want to see Jess to pick the boys up, have Natalie go get them from Jess's house.

[smom12]

I am going to say this one thing: Neither, and I say NEITHER of them should be defended or made excuses for in regards to the twins and Landen.

They were both too young and immature, they should have never had kids, but that boat has sailed.

She trapped him, he cheated on her, she is bitter.... all continue with a BUT. Nope. They are older now. BOTH OF THEM. If they would get their heads out of their respective partners' crotches for just 5 minutes, maybe they would see what was going on.

They NEED to put whatever differences/opinions aside and focus on the well being of those kids. They are gonna have a shit ton of resentment to the both of them when they get older, "why didn't you do more so we could see dad?" "Why couldn't you see us more dad"?

It is APPALLING that all this time has passed, they have BOTH moved on, but yet the kids are probably being used as pawns and weapons, or simply just discarded. And that makes me fucking sick.

Drake, keep your dick in your pants.
Jess, close your legs.

Get together and FOCUS ON THE WELL BEING OF YOUR KIDS TOGETHER.

End rant.


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What more should Jess be doing for the boys to see him more? He doesn't even come get them as much as the agreement states he should.
That's not on Jess. That's all on him.
If he doesn't want to see Jess to pick the boys up, have Natalie go get them from Jess's house.

So you think she is COMPLETELY innocent in all this??


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[nadsbliss]

So Drake should abandon his kids because if he shows up Jess will call him a deadbeat. Thats perfectly logical?!? Wtf no, if he actually showed up to pick up the boys he wouldnt be a deadbeat. And its a hell of a lot more damaging to children for their father to never show up to pick them up, than for their mother to make a snide remark when being picked up.
Jess doesnt film him when he picks him up the 3 times a year he actually shows up, so I doubt she'll start now. Even if she tries he can ask her to stop or cover his face or whatever. Thats not an excuse to ignore his children. She was on YouTube before they started dating, Youtube is what provides his boys with food to eat and beds to sleep in. He wants to claim he doesnt need to pay child support because Jess makes money from Youtube (while buying rings and tattoos), he can't use potentially being in a clip of youtube for not picking up his children and seeing them too.
Regardless of their shitty relationship or how much he hates Jess, those are his children. He can put up with 5 minutes of seeing her to be a part of their lives. There are people who deal with a hell of a lot more to see their kids.
They should not be having more children until he is able to support (both financially and emotionally) the 4 children he has now.
Jess has made some really terrible life decisions, but Drake being a deadbeat is not mutually exclusive.

I won't say he fully abandoned them and not see them anymore. Just not as much as he should. Bella's birthday is coming up and the boys will attend her sister and Aliyah (Natalie's niece) birthday. That's what i said in my previous, that Drake should take full custody of the boys and the boys can get to see the Roque family when Drake visit his parents and cousins.

Kaden on Bella and Aliyah birthday. Photos posted by Nicole (Natalie twin)

He may have not fully abandonned them because he sees them once in a while, that doen't mean it's the best for his kids! He takes them when he feels like taking them not because his sons need him, if his sons' needs were more important that his own person, he would make more effort to take care of them more often AND regularly. I really don't get how you can think that Drake should take full custody of them!! From the way he acts towards them, there is not way Drake is a better full time parent for these boys than Jess (don't get me wrong, Jess is a mess in my opinion but she is still a better parent than him for the boys because she never abandonned them)

The pictures shown that Drake can be a parent if he wants to be. He've been very involved after Natalie gave him another chance for the sake of her daughter.

She wrote i love seeing Bella loves you, the way Bella looks at Drake show it all.

That what makes me think he can be a parent. Is not that the boys being with Jess was bad. The reason he can avoid Jess if he has full custody. And Jess can be friends with Natalie, so she still can see his boys. Btw Wendy (Jess mom) and Anne (grandma) is friends on facebook with Natalie sister. They really like Nicole and Aliyah even though her sis is with Drake

[notapnutmommy]

I am going to say this one thing: Neither, and I say NEITHER of them should be defended or made excuses for in regards to the twins and Landen.

They were both too young and immature, they should have never had kids, but that boat has sailed.

She trapped him, he cheated on her, she is bitter.... all continue with a BUT. Nope. They are older now. BOTH OF THEM. If they would get their heads out of their respective partners' crotches for just 5 minutes, maybe they would see what was going on.

They NEED to put whatever differences/opinions aside and focus on the well being of those kids. They are gonna have a shit ton of resentment to the both of them when they get older, "why didn't you do more so we could see dad?" "Why couldn't you see us more dad"?

It is APPALLING that all this time has passed, they have BOTH moved on, but yet the kids are probably being used as pawns and weapons, or simply just discarded. And that makes me fucking sick.

Drake, keep your dick in your pants.
Jess, close your legs.

Get together and FOCUS ON THE WELL BEING OF YOUR KIDS TOGETHER.

End rant.


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What more should Jess be doing for the boys to see him more? He doesn't even come get them as much as the agreement states he should.
That's not on Jess. That's all on him.
If he doesn't want to see Jess to pick the boys up, have Natalie go get them from Jess's house.

So you think she is COMPLETELY innocent in all this??


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No, I don't think she is completely innocent, I just don't know how she can make him see his boys if he doesn't put forth the effort to get them when he should be.
It's not like she should drive to his doorstep and just leave them there if he doesn't want them.

[Midia]

So Drake should abandon his kids because if he shows up Jess will call him a deadbeat. Thats perfectly logical?!? Wtf no, if he actually showed up to pick up the boys he wouldnt be a deadbeat. And its a hell of a lot more damaging to children for their father to never show up to pick them up, than for their mother to make a snide remark when being picked up.
Jess doesnt film him when he picks him up the 3 times a year he actually shows up, so I doubt she'll start now. Even if she tries he can ask her to stop or cover his face or whatever. Thats not an excuse to ignore his children. She was on YouTube before they started dating, Youtube is what provides his boys with food to eat and beds to sleep in. He wants to claim he doesnt need to pay child support because Jess makes money from Youtube (while buying rings and tattoos), he can't use potentially being in a clip of youtube for not picking up his children and seeing them too.
Regardless of their shitty relationship or how much he hates Jess, those are his children. He can put up with 5 minutes of seeing her to be a part of their lives. There are people who deal with a hell of a lot more to see their kids.
They should not be having more children until he is able to support (both financially and emotionally) the 4 children he has now.
Jess has made some really terrible life decisions, but Drake being a deadbeat is not mutually exclusive.

I won't say he fully abandoned them and not see them anymore. Just not as much as he should. Bella's birthday is coming up and the boys will attend her sister and Aliyah (Natalie's niece) birthday. That's what i said in my previous, that Drake should take full custody of the boys and the boys can get to see the Roque family when Drake visit his parents and cousins.

Kaden on Bella and Aliyah birthday. Photos posted by Nicole (Natalie twin)

He may have not fully abandonned them because he sees them once in a while, that doen't mean it's the best for his kids! He takes them when he feels like taking them not because his sons need him, if his sons' needs were more important that his own person, he would make more effort to take care of them more often AND regularly. I really don't get how you can think that Drake should take full custody of them!! From the way he acts towards them, there is not way Drake is a better full time parent for these boys than Jess (don't get me wrong, Jess is a mess in my opinion but she is still a better parent than him for the boys because she never abandonned them)

The pictures shown that Drake can be a parent if he wants to be. He've been very involved after Natalie gave him another chance for the sake of her daughter.

She wrote i love seeing Bella loves you, the way Bella looks at Drake show it all.

That what makes me think he can be a parent. Is not that the boys being with Jess was bad. The reason he can avoid Jess if he has full custody. And Jess can be friends with Natalie, so she still can see his boys. Btw Wendy (Jess mom) and Anne (grandma) is friends on facebook with Natalie sister. They really like Nicole and Aliyah even though her sis is with Drake

And...? it makes everything even worse because he is able to be a "good" father and he chose not to be with the boys so no it doesn't justify him having full custody... If you excuse for him is Drake is not a good father for the boys because he doesn't want to see Jess then what? All father/mother who doesn't want to see their ex-spouse have the excuse to be a shitty parent because they doesn't want to see their ex...?? That s one of the worst excuse possible If Natalie and if ever broke up (again( he will do the same to her:stop taking care of his daughter and i know that because he has done it before when Natalie and him broke up!!

So you think she is COMPLETELY innocent in all this??


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Of course she is not xD but noone can rewrite the past, now with the current situation, I don't really see what Jess can do except maybe try to reach out to Drake to discuss what is the best for their children and not bashing eash other (but I don't think they have the maturity)

[Yogabbagabbat]

Is it possible that drakes time with the kids has been reduced even more since he didn't pay child support?

Jess always used to say "it's supposed to be a drake day buuuuut I doubt he'll show up" and she hasn't said that in a long time. I don't think she magically matured a little either lol

[smom12]

Is it possible that drakes time with the kids has been reduced even more since he didn't pay child support?

Jess always used to say "it's supposed to be a drake day buuuuut I doubt he'll show up" and she hasn't said that in a long time. I don't think she magically matured a little either lol

Exactly. We can't take either of their words as gospel.


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[dazzled]

Then he should pay child support instead of buying another ring.

[smom12]

Of course she is not xD but noone can rewrite the past, now with the current situation, I don't really see what Jess can do except maybe try to reach out to Drake to discuss what is the best for their children and not bashing eash other (but I don't think they have the maturity)

That's what I'm trying to say. They should be reaching out to each other to have a civil agreement.

But they both have the maturity of a middle schooler.


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[dazzled]

So you think she is COMPLETELY innocent in all this??

No one here said Jess is innocent. You can twist and wriggle as much as you like, in the end Drake clearly is not doing nearly enough to actually be a father to three of his four kids, and that is not all on Jess, as much as I dislike her.

[Midia]

Of course she is not xD but noone can rewrite the past, now with the current situation, I don't really see what Jess can do except maybe try to reach out to Drake to discuss what is the best for their children and not bashing eash other (but I don't think they have the maturity)

That's what I'm trying to say. They should be reaching out to each other to have a civil agreement.

But they both have the maturity of a middle schooler.


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We agree but as you said they have the maturity of a middle schooler (and that's an insult to some middle schoolers) while we're thinking as adults who consider their children should always come first

[kirsti13]

How do we know drake isn't paying child support ? Obviously that post jess made was a year ago. A lot of things can change in a year .


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[nadsbliss]

Then he should pay child support instead of buying another ring.

We have no proof of him whether he gives child support now. The pics was screenshot last year. I won't jump on conclusion since neither of us know anything just because of a ring he gave recently, whether he is fully involved in the boys, or how the boys feel about Drake we will have a answer in the future...