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Kelsey should be careful..too much pumping early on can lead to oversupply and cause more issues. Also newer studies have shown that during breastfeeding your body creates specific antibodies in a feedback loop between your sick babies saliva and breastmilk to fight the infection. You don't need to save colostrum. You need to give it to your newborn to protect them for the next several months.
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westwuff wrote:Kelsey should be careful..too much pumping early on can lead to oversupply and cause more issues. Also newer studies have shown that during breastfeeding your body creates specific antibodies in a feedback loop between your sick babies saliva and breastmilk to fight the infection. You don't need to save colostrum. You need to give it to your newborn to protect them for the next several months.
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Unless it was absolutely necessary for me to pump, like going back to work for instance. I was told by my Lactation consult, doula, and la leche league leaders(who Are LC), not to pump before 3 months. The first three months are very important in establishing your milk supply. Nurse on demand and avoid pumping. Pumping could cause an over supply. Over supply could lead to baby not getting the hind milk. When babies don't get the hind milk, they are missing out in the fattiest portion of milk.


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westwuff wrote:Kelsey should be careful..too much pumping early on can lead to oversupply and cause more issues. Also newer studies have shown that during breastfeeding your body creates specific antibodies in a feedback loop between your sick babies saliva and breastmilk to fight the infection. You don't need to save colostrum. You need to give it to your newborn to protect them for the next several months.
I was confused about that part too. Not that I have any experience, but it seems like giving a baby antibodies from three months beforehand would not have any effect on their current illness. Sounds like pseudoscience to me!
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I just said a couple of pages back that they didn't have any type of swing or bouncer to put her down in and that they'd need one. And lo and behold, Missy runs out and gets one for them today. I knew they'd need one.


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westwuff wrote:Kelsey should be careful..too much pumping early on can lead to oversupply and cause more issues. Also newer studies have shown that during breastfeeding your body creates specific antibodies in a feedback loop between your sick babies saliva and breastmilk to fight the infection. You don't need to save colostrum. You need to give it to your newborn to protect them for the next several months.
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Unless it was absolutely necessary for me to pump, like going back to work for instance. I was told by my Lactation consult, doula, and la leche league leaders(who Are LC), not to pump before 3 months. The first three months are very important in establishing your milk supply. Nurse on demand and avoid pumping. Pumping could cause an over supply. Over supply could lead to baby not getting the hind milk. When babies don't get the hind milk, they are missing out in the fattiest portion of milk.


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Nothankyou wrote:I just said a couple of pages back that they didn't have any type of swing or bouncer to put her down in and that they'd need one. And lo and behold, Missy runs out and gets one for them today. I knew they'd need one.

Honestly their apartment is so small, they shouldn't need one. They have the cradle that performs the same function and they could move that if they need to. Otherwise, use those baby wraps!
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In my own experience, I thought the first few days were easy because you still have the birth high and this wonderful baby you've been waiting on. And I didn't have any extra help, other than my husband (who is a heavy sleeper) ... I can't imagine having two additional people helping and still complaining that much.


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I was also confused that according to Kelsey June nursed "all day and all night" but Corbin said she only woke 3 times in the nighy...so lol no, she didn't nurse -all- night. When you're getting woken every hour, then it's all night. I am really glad she slept in the cradle though and not their bed (just my personal nervous preference).
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ja14 wrote:In my own experience, I thought the first few days were easy because you still have the birth high and this wonderful baby you've been waiting on. And I didn't have any extra help, other than my husband (who is a heavy sleeper) ... I can't imagine having two additional people helping and still complaining that much.


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Ugh exactly! I didn't even have my husband to help because he had to go back to work the day after we got home from the hospital. New babies aren't easy and all of my babies had tongue ties so I know how hard that is, but they are being so freaking over dramatic and don't even realize how good they have it. They are in for it if they don't get it together because it only gets harder from here on out for many years


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Jessi31 wrote:Why on earth aren't they getting Kelsey's Mum or Missy to mind the baby while they get some sleep? Either that or take it in shifts sleeping. What's the point of both trying to sleep at the same time if the baby is so unsettled? Then neither of them get sleep. I am a first time Mother with a 6 week old and whenever someone is around, I use the opportunity to hand over the baby to get some sleep. Let's face it, people are coming to see the baby not me and are more than willing to hold him for a couple of hours so I can sleep!

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Or when baby passes out, nap with the baby. They can, because Missy was cleaning for them and cooking. So they had nothing to do

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Snow White wrote:Did he seriously acknowledge that she had a soiled diaper and then WALK AWAY TO VLOG. Kelsey's mom took June out of the car seat and had to TELL THEM to change her?! Then her mom changed the blow out?! Perhaps it wasn't a blow out, but rather a mess from not being changed!!

Wow. Just wow.
And the way he was reacting to the smell. I don't remember babies that small making super stinky poop. How is he going to react when she starts eating solids?


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My sons smelled pretty bad. But he is also allergic to cows milk protein and that is what made it smell so badly.

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MommaLindsey2 wrote:I never had help with my babies and never complained like these two. I couldn't even bear to watch the whole video with all the whining and complaining. She is only 2 days old. You haven't seen nothing yet! Try having a newborn with colic and a wild 2 year old that you have to chase and your husband at work. One kid is easy especially a newborn.


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Yep! I had a newborn with colic and a cows milk protein allergy along with a 3 year old who was constantly trying to wake his brother. Still does 3 months later but baby is getting used to it. They piss me off

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Did I hear correctly that they just now started burping her because she spit up. Wtf?! Isn't that the first thing anybody teaches you about feeding a baby you always burp them. Did the nurse in the hospital or even missy not show them? I am dumbfounded. He didn't even know how to do it at all. I know breastfed babies don't always burp but both of mine did.


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They got rid of the PO box, right? So I can't send them a copy of "What to Expect the First Year". They seriously need one.

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lmmomSD wrote:They got rid of the PO box, right? So I can't send them a copy of "What to Expect the First Year". They seriously need one.

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Don't worry, they sell those on Amazon. Just Tweet Missy and I'm sure she can send them one Image
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lmmomSD wrote:They got rid of the PO box, right? So I can't send them a copy of "What to Expect the First Year". They seriously need one.

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It seems that they were so obsessed with natural pregnancy and birth that they didn't think about what it would be like to take care of a baby at all...

Also does anyone else think they purposefully didn't buy some of those target baby supplies because they wanted to wait and see if someone else would buy those things for them. We know how entitled they are!


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I wouldnt be suprised if they end up moving out close to bryan and missy so missy can spoil them more lol


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marshmallowfluf wrote:I wouldnt be suprised if they end up moving out close to bryan and missy so missy can spoil them more lol


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And views. They can live in a van on the "property", lol. Get lots of cute vlogs of Finn and Ollie and their "future wife". I guess she's Finn's because Ollie is already engaged to Gaines, right? I can't believe Kelsey's mom even bought into that. She's three days old. Can they wait to ship her?

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marshmallowfluf wrote:I wouldnt be suprised if they end up moving out close to bryan and missy so missy can spoil them more lol


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And views. They can live in a van on the "property", lol. Get lots of cute vlogs of Finn and Ollie and their "future wife". I guess she's Finn's because Ollie is already engaged to Gaines, right? I can't believe Kelsey's mom even bought into that. She's three days old. Can they wait to ship her?

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Nope, Ollie gets all the girls! Finn who?


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Nothankyou wrote:
lmmomSD wrote:They got rid of the PO box, right? So I can't send them a copy of "What to Expect the First Year". They seriously need one.

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It seems that they were so obsessed with natural pregnancy and birth that they didn't think about what it would be like to take care of a baby at all...

Also does anyone else think they purposefully didn't buy some of those target baby supplies because they wanted to wait and see if someone else would buy those things for them. We know how entitled they are!


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Yes I did too. Especially in their case there is so many list out there of things you need for a newborn and being yoututbers especially they would have seen those materials on those list even when you make a registry. I honestly feel like I am watching the stupidest, rudest, and biggest idiots ever when it comes to them parenting.
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