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Oof, that dress is not doing her any favors.
I think it will look better on her as the baby weight goes away. It looks like a wrap dress, so it's probably pretty comfortable and will fit as her size changes - and a bit more dressy than those nursing tank tops she's been wearing non-stop.
When she tried on all those dressed, Corbin Sid he really liked that one. It looked terrible when she showed full body. It's tight around the stomach which is exactly what you don't want after having a baby

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But if breastfeeding is painful, then it's not going well. Plus there was the thrush, gassiness and bleeding nipples. And she's been to the LC like 4 times, so if it was just a poor latch it would have been corrected by now. They should correct any ties now. June can gain weight fine but in a couple of months Kelsey's supply will regulate and if June has been living off of letdown rather than nursing correctly and emptying the breast, new problems will crop up. (This happened to me)

I don't like that dress either but it's more the color and pattern. I agree it will fit better as she drops weight.
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MommaLindsey2 wrote:She admitted that June might have a tongue or lip tie and they have an appointment to her it checked out. That is what is causing her nipple pain and is probably what is causing June's gas.
Why wait so long? I thought waiting longer to do the laser correction was more painful for the baby as well obviously more problems feeding in general?
It doesn't make a difference in terms of the procedure for the baby. It just prolongs the symptoms, so the longer they wait, the longer her latch will hurt K and the longer June will have the issues with gas etc. also, June might get used to her improper latch and might have a harder time relearning how to latch and nurse correctly without restriction.

I hope she is going to an IBCLC they are the only ones worth their salt on BFing help. I bet the one who said there was no TT just didn't know how to check correctly. Posterior TT in particular can be tricky to spot. And if for some reason there isn't a TT (highly doubt it) an IBCLC would still be he most qualified to help her fix her latch and not give her bad advice


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I know women can gain a lot during their first pregnancy without realizing they're overdoing it. I think Kelsey was in a new city, in the middle of winter, without a job or any family or friends. Their lives seemed to revolve around treats and eating out. She looked bored and depressed. I've also seen women get back down to a healthy weight quickly by working hard to maintain a healthy diet and exercise routine. Kelsey talks a lot about healthy changes she wants to make, but I don't see a lot of action. She knew she had gained too much weight in her last trimester, and she didn't make any changes. In the Tulip Festival vlog, they got FIVE pastries for two adults for breakfast. Who eats like that? And then they showed four plates of a good at lunch. Lord knows I have cheat days, but everyday for them seems to be a high calorie day with little to no activity.
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mydietsucks_1 wrote:I hate the excuse that the parents know best. Some well meaning parents have accidentally killed their children (suffocation during unsafe co sleeping, unsafe sleep situations, there was those vegan parents who practically starved their baby the death trying to avoid animal products). If a parent is uneducated on taking care of children, bad things can happen if they refuse advice.
Yeah, when it comes to parenting, especially with infants where 99% of the job is keeping them alive because they're totally helpless, there's no substitute for experience. That doesn't mean first time parents are bad parents, just that you have to be willing to admit that there are some things you don't know, or struggle with, and it's ok to ask 'how do I do this?!' even though it can be super embarrassing. These two worry me because it's just them in a city where they have no friends, no family, no parenting community or support network whatsoever and no one to help or advise them but a naturopath doctor who they've seen once (I think?) since June was born. The idea that they know better than anyone in the world how to care for June is pigheaded, she's a normal healthy baby - she's not special. She needs the same things as other babies. And they're complaining because people gently say 'you're not carrying her in the wrap properly, that could be dangerous'. Stuff where it's objectively unsafe, not just the usual 'everyone has an opinion' thing.

Just because you can have a baby, doesn't mean you always know best. If that was true the foster care system wouldn't exist.
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tintin15 wrote:If they used to drink constantly, then whatever, but if they didn't...that's going to be shitty for June to look back on. "Ah, such memories...my parents felt the need to drink every single day after I was born...and complain about me...yay..."
Honestly I think they're having a really hard time and they maybe are drinking a lot because of it. Both of them come across as pretty spoiled - Kelsey's never had a real job, Corbin's the whiniest human I've ever come across, they both seem to think they're owed something and I think as a couple they bring out the other's entitlement. But now they have a baby so they can't travel, sleep in, live in a van, not have jobs, go wherever they want, etc. They have to act like real adults and I think it's REALLY wearing on them now they realise that their lives have to revolve around June, not the other way around. Corbin was talking about another van trip in I think as little as like a year or two and I was just thinking 'you have NO idea what it's like to have a toddler. that's never going to happen.' For two people who have probably never thought about anyone but themselves and each other having a baby has to be a huge shock and I think it's gonna get worse as she gets older and they realise you don't suddenly get all of your freedom back on their first birthday.
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I cant imagine how hard it will be to have a toddler in a van for months at a time. Maybe when shes like 4 or 5 she will enjoy the outdoors and the adventures but not at like 1! Lol


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luci417 wrote:
mydietsucks_1 wrote:I hate the excuse that the parents know best. Some well meaning parents have accidentally killed their children (suffocation during unsafe co sleeping, unsafe sleep situations, there was those vegan parents who practically starved their baby the death trying to avoid animal products). If a parent is uneducated on taking care of children, bad things can happen if they refuse advice.
Yeah, when it comes to parenting, especially with infants where 99% of the job is keeping them alive because they're totally helpless, there's no substitute for experience. That doesn't mean first time parents are bad parents, just that you have to be willing to admit that there are some things you don't know, or struggle with, and it's ok to ask 'how do I do this?!' even though it can be super embarrassing. These two worry me because it's just them in a city where they have no friends, no family, no parenting community or support network whatsoever and no one to help or advise them but a naturopath doctor who they've seen once (I think?) since June was born. The idea that they know better than anyone in the world how to care for June is pigheaded, she's a normal healthy baby - she's not special. She needs the same things as other babies. And they're complaining because people gently say 'you're not carrying her in the wrap properly, that could be dangerous'. Stuff where it's objectively unsafe, not just the usual 'everyone has an opinion' thing.

Just because you can have a baby, doesn't mean you always know best. If that was true the foster care system wouldn't exist.
Exactly and they don't know what they don't know


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I dont understand the mentality some new parents have about not taking anyones advice because they know everything. When I have kids I will have had pretty much as little experience with babies as you can get. I will be asking the nurses/doctors/my mum EVERYTHING. How do i burp her? what if she doesnt burp? has she burped enough? is this too much/too little sleep? should she be pooping more? is this the right colour? how do i swaddle her? how do I tell if she is too hot/cold? she seems gassy what can I try and do to help? is her car seat installed correctly? have I buckled her in safely? how do I baby wear with this long ass wrap? is her back and neck okay like that? can she breathe? and on and on and on. I would never start a new job with no experience and ignore everyones advice/lessons and assume I know what to do. Why would I do it with the steepest learning curve in the world?
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^ I'm sure their excuse is that people did it for thousands of years and they were okay. But infant mortality rates have decreased over the years for a reason.
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I'm glad they finally went to a REAL doctor and had the procedure done. Maybe they finally realize they don't know best and real doctors do know things. LOL!

Also, anyone else think Corbin holding up the camera filming while driving confused that other driver that he was waving her to turn?? I could see that happening. Why is he holding the camera and driving anyway??? FFS, put the camera down in the car!!!
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Still renting cars daily, I see. BUT IT'S SO MUCH CHEAPER THAN OWNING A CAR.
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Pency wrote:Still renting cars daily, I see. BUT IT'S SO MUCH CHEAPER THAN OWNING A CAR.
As someone mentioned, they are now renting from a different company. I wonder if ReachNow dropped them after seeing their muddy dog in the car.
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marshmallowfluf wrote:I cant imagine how hard it will be to have a toddler in a van for months at a time. Maybe when shes like 4 or 5 she will enjoy the outdoors and the adventures but not at like 1! Lol


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TBH I wouldn't be surprised if someone called CPS on them! I didn't watch many of their van vlogs so I'm not sure how many amenities the wander wagon had but living with a young child in a van with no power, running water, proper sleeping area, sanitary areas for changing diapers, or space to cook hot meals and wash clothes VOLUNTARILY is pretty negligent. I'm all for doing long road trips but I doubt you could provide a toddler with everything they need if you're living full time in a fucking van. voluntarily, i might add (no shade to families that have no choice, but Corbin and Kelsey can obviously a afford an apartment).
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marshmallowfluf wrote:I cant imagine how hard it will be to have a toddler in a van for months at a time. Maybe when shes like 4 or 5 she will enjoy the outdoors and the adventures but not at like 1! Lol


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TBH I wouldn't be surprised if someone called CPS on them! I didn't watch many of their van vlogs so I'm not sure how many amenities the wander wagon had but living with a young child in a van with no power, running water, proper sleeping area, sanitary areas for changing diapers, or space to cook hot meals and wash clothes VOLUNTARILY is pretty negligent. I'm all for doing long road trips but I doubt you could provide a toddler with everything they need if you're living full time in a fucking van. voluntarily, i might add (no shade to families that have no choice, but Corbin and Kelsey can obviously a afford an apartment).
I really don't think another van trip will ever happen. Their van did have water, power and a stove, but Kelsey didn't seem all that into the trip once the van started breaking down all the time and she got pregnant. Kelsey even said she wants PDX as a home-base...which I think means she wants to buy a house and a BIG house, like Missy's!

They really are totally fake about being naturalists, hippies or whatever they are. Why are they renting BMWs and Mercedes' all the time? Real hispters don't do that!! Why don't they just buy a cheap car like they used to have????
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marshmallowfluf wrote:I cant imagine how hard it will be to have a toddler in a van for months at a time. Maybe when shes like 4 or 5 she will enjoy the outdoors and the adventures but not at like 1! Lol


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TBH I wouldn't be surprised if someone called CPS on them! I didn't watch many of their van vlogs so I'm not sure how many amenities the wander wagon had but living with a young child in a van with no power, running water, proper sleeping area, sanitary areas for changing diapers, or space to cook hot meals and wash clothes VOLUNTARILY is pretty negligent. I'm all for doing long road trips but I doubt you could provide a toddler with everything they need if you're living full time in a fucking van. voluntarily, i might add (no shade to families that have no choice, but Corbin and Kelsey can obviously a afford an apartment).
I really don't think another van trip will ever happen. Their van did have water, power and a stove, but Kelsey didn't seem all that into the trip once the van started breaking down all the time and she got pregnant. Kelsey even said she wants PDX as a home-base...which I think means she wants to buy a house and a BIG house, like Missy's!

They really are totally fake about being naturalists, hippies or whatever they are. Why are they renting BMWs and Mercedes' all the time? Real hispters don't do that!! Why don't they just buy a cheap car like they used to have????
I mean they say they're all about sustainability but shop at amazon and ikea so...I 100% believe they'd abandon their hippy values in a heartbeat if they could live like Missy and Bryan. Can you imagine them EVER saying 'no, we don't need a big house or a fancy car - it's not good for the environment'. No way. They obviously have expensive tastes (look at the amount of money they spend on food!), and this hipster/crunchy thing is just a way to feel superior for being 'natural' without actually committing to anything like boycotting certain brands, possibly a vegan/vegetarian diet, not eating soy or palm oil, volunteering/protesting, etc. - you know, things that people who actually care might do.
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Surprise surprise M+B paid for their photographer to fly to Portland and take Junipers pics.. really there wasn't any local photographer they could have used?
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"Scary surgery" oh, puhlease


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pampam1 wrote:Surprise surprise M+B paid for their photographer to fly to Portland and take Junipers pics.. really there wasn't any local photographer they could have used?
I honestly feel like they'll mention something pricey to Missy and Bryan in hopes that it will be paid for...and out of love of proving money (and possibly caring), they always do it. I really feel like they take advantage of Missy and Bryan's wealth...it rubs me the wrong way. M&B aren't great, but they shouldn't be taken advantage of by their only actual friends.
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MandyJ wrote:"Scary surgery" oh, puhlease Image
It really is gross how they (honestly I think mostly Corbin) is exploiting his newborn daughter. They are basically making a living off her. I hate to work, poor me. I want to be like the Daily Lumps. Let's Truman Show our kid for income!
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