Gardner Quad Squad

[Stellaboo]

That is the best way to describe the cribs at their age CAGES. At this point they aren't cribs anymore, just CAGES or JAIL CELLS.
How neglectful of Assface and Tybag.

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I agree. My daughter is still in a crib. However, she is still pretty tiny and has never even thought about climbing out.

AND I don't use the crib in lieu of parenting. She sleeps there, and that's it. I don't toss some toys in and leave her alone for hours just so I can go back to bed. When she's awake, I take her out. Don't MOST parents? It truly shocks me that anyone would be that lazy when it comes to their children.

Oh, and after a toddler bed/naptime/poop-horror-show story from a friend of mine with twins (who WERE potty trained at the time), I have a mortal fear of what might happen the first time I leave my darling kid alone with just her thoughts and access to the entire room!

[amyisnewhere]

I just watched a busby video, never have. But I do watch their TLC show. Their vlog's are so natural and homemade feely. The kids and family life are the center of attention. I felt like I was there too.

The Gardner's vlogs are SOOO different. And it's okay to be different. But the Gardners are constantly baby talking and over talking the girls. And they're loud! They're just loud obnoxious ppl. The girls can hardly get a word in because Ashley wants to be heard and seen. She could never give up vloging ever. No matter if the girls didn't want to do. I always wonder when they're out in public what ppl must be thinking of them with cameras up in the girls faces and their loud voices saying "say hi girls!!!!!" can you say hi?!?!!!!

I am very curious to see how their TLC show will line up with how their vlogging shows them to be. And I do get that it is a small portion of their day, but still. Show the best portion, lol. If you're getting criticized for too much junk food at least stop filming that, which leads me to believe that really IS their lifestyle which baffles me because kids love fruit. Sit in front of them holding a bowl of bluebrries and they'll eat them all. That takes no effort. There's nothing natural about their vlogging to me. They are just so over the top. Even when they're around other ppls kids they seem to act like their kids are the only ones there.

[Merikat]

BumblebeeBubbles, I agree with everything you said!

I think Ashley had her own mind as a teenager though; very spoiled as the youngest. I think if her parents tried to keep her away from Tyson it made him more desirable to her. Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even know their relationship developed as quickly and intensely as it did. Tyson really did kind of groom her; she was a barely pubescent child....

[Merikat]

Stellaboo,
When I was 9 months pregnant with my 2nd (many years ago), I left my daughter "playing" and singing in her crib for a while, because I was so, so tired. And she was singing... Ha!

We had to take the whole crib apart and outside to scrub it clean! The walls and the child we're...ugh!
I can smile about it now, these many years later, but I'll never forget it!

PS she went in a bed that night, as we had to scrub the crib several times. Luckily, we were in South Florida, so it could stay outside.

[Snarky Lady]

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I agree Merikat and Night lady. Very possible the Clown Ruby PrincAss grabbed Esme roughly gave her a rough bath while she had Tyresome cleaning the wall. Then we saw Esme with the limp and then the camera on the wall. Now extreme fear It is very possible it was all related to the shit art. We all have seen the Clown Ruby PrincAss jerk a pacifier out of both Indie and Esme'smouth. Nothing would surprise me with them.

[BumblebeeBubbles]

BumblebeeBubbles, I agree with everything you said!

I think Ashley had her own mind as a teenager though; very spoiled as the youngest. I think if her parents tried to keep her away from Tyson it made him more desirable to her. Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even know their relationship developed as quickly and intensely as it did. Tyson really did kind of groom her; she was a barely pubescent child....

True true. And their age doesn't matter that much now they are older. But when she was that young and to get serious so fast and to go from living at mom's to living with husband - never had a chance to be wild and crazy. I think that pubescent screeching child shows her head time to time.

[Beauregard1]

Neither of them showed any patience toward Esme today. T said " come on Esme" in the pool. A told her to stop complaining and that it didn't hurt in the pool when Scarlet was climbing all over her and Esme was yelling "ouch". Esme wanted a plate for her pizza, and A said she didn't need one. A just doesn't want to be bothered by anything that isn't her idea of the perfect doll child. I think they are both pretty aggressive off camera, both lack patience, energy and desire to raise their kids in an appropriate fashion. No parenting books or magazines. They never have a diaper bag filled with things they need, no snacks, toys, drinks, swim diapers or toys. They are so clueless, they are laughable! He is 35/36, she is 30. This is not an episode of teen pregnancy. They both need to grow up and treat each girl as an individual with individual needs. Get them help.

[Merikat]

They didn't even have all the girls swim fins with them today. At the apartment pool all the girls had pink ones. Today, I don't think I saw more than 2 girls at a time with fins on. One was pink. The other one, Scarlett was wearing, was later on Teagan in the "big" pool.

They are never prepared for anything!

[Sunnyunicorn]

Oh my god you guys, these girls are kept in cages. For hours and hours! To "sleep" and to play while their parents sleep in... I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't nap anymore (my daughter gave up naps at 1) and T&A just put them in their cribs and leave them there anyway. What we see on camera is so neglectful, I can't imagine what we don't see on camera.

[Keth Selhan 1986]

That is a horrible thought to imagine those poor girls sleeping in jail-cage-cribs instead being in the age appropriate toddlers beds. That will do permanent damage to their minds, soul and personalities. How depressing for me to see the reasons for their parents are doing it. It only because they are lazy, neglectful, stupid as a rock by denial and not seeking any parenting advice. And why, so they can get sleep beauty! I do ask myself how they could sleep peacefully like a baby, do they have a conscience or soul, or they haven't? I know I wouldn't ever be capable do it, my instincts should be eaten my mind in deep, and I would feel very guilty, but I am not them. I can't understand Tyson and Ashley at all.

[Merikat]

Sunnyunicorn,
I agree. My older daughter gave up naps before she was 2. (I really never even tried after her infamous wall/crib/self painting I described earlier!)

I admit I didn't used to "like" Esme. A year ago I thought she was whiny,pushy, annoying. Now, I think she was probably always mostly ignored, unattended.

Indie (IMO) is clearly Asswit's favorite. She's small, cute, light, smiley, pliable, quiet.
Scarlett is Tyresome's favorite. Who knows, maybe just because they've said "she's the only one Tyson named". She clearly adores her 'daddy', is smiley, fairly undemanding, and relatively quiet (because she can't talk, and spaces out a lot).
Evie demands attention, and that her needs be met, because she's aggressive, loud, strong, and very demanding, all the time.
What's left for Esme? She's only found her niche by becoming clingy, demanding attention through her neediness. Even her 'parents' now talk about her because she's changed so much and has to be coaxed into everything.

Poor, poor, little girls. Each with so many unmet needs.

[SnarkieSophie]

Is it wrong I find it humorous that FatAss waxes his whole chest and back? Like for someone who seldom goes out he cares a lot about that smooth look. But we know from a past life CrAP waxed his back.

Sorry Eskayem but I must disagree with you. The Weeping Pale Whale would squeal like a little girl, or the proverbially stuck pig, if CRAP came anywhere near him with a bowl of hot wax.

The reason the Weeping Pale Whale's chest and back are hairless is due to the fact that obese men have lower testosterone levels compared to men within their healthy weight range. Remember Eskayem it was you who pointed out that CRAP's story re her Endometriosis being the cause of their infertility was well, crap. And, we know that CRAP would vlog, ad nauseam, her struggles with the ongoing, unbearable pain of Endometriosis in order to keep the dollars and gifts rolling in wouldn't she? No, the reason the Greedner's required IVF to have their four miracles was the Weeping Pale Whale's low sperm count due to his morbid obesity significantly lowering his testosterone levels.

You've got to hand it the the Weeping Pale Whale for taking on the responsibility of the couples birth control. He selfishlessly stuffs his fat mouth with donits, Sodalicious, take-out food and "treats" constantly so poor CRAP won't have to put up with the side effects of birth control pills. What a man! Oops sorry, what a girle, Weeping Pale Whale!

Awl done.

[eskayem]

Thank you Sophie for reminding me of that, I forgot all about her Endo since she never mentions ir=t.

But you're right.

[Aussiegal2017]

There views are dying every day thier is less they must be freaking out !


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[AthenaA]

Their views are way down. I noticed the comments are back so either they got tired of going through them all or they realised that it was impacting views.

You can tell how long they leave them awake in their cots because the room is always trashed when they finally go and get them up. The girls have obviously played with the toys and then tossed them and then have been so bored that they have undressed themselves most of the time. They must be left there for a significant amount of time. There's really no excuse when they sleep well at night and there are two full time parents at home. I may have some sympathy if they woke often or there was a younger sibling but that's not the case.

[SnarkieSophie]

Here's a kind of horrible thought -
Was Esme one of the kids who took her diaper off and smeared feces in her crib?

Maybe she got in BIG TROUBLE for it. We've seen "mama bear" be not so gentle with her children occasionally.

Maybe Esme got a not so pleasant,or gentle, bath and diaper change.
And now has a very bad association with both poop and water. And wants to avoid both.

Oh God Merikat I think you're right. This really is going to end up as A Tragedy Unfolding isn't it.

You're theory makes perfect sense. We all knew, just by watching the poor, little, regressing Esme, that there had been an "incident" around water. I thought maybe mean, rough and aggressive Evie (NOTE: Evie is like this through no fault of her own but directly due to her world class, incompetent parents) had attempted to keep Esme's head under water during one of their frequent, unsupervised periods in the bath. No. your theory makes far more sense. I recall Clown Ruby PrincAss Perfect (aka CRAP) roughly yanking the binkie from poor Indie's mouth and making her cry in shock and pain. I also remember CRAP roughly pushing one of the girls heads down to stop her climbing out of the cot AND roughly picking up one of the Ty Twins by lifting her by the straps of her overalls in order to get the TV remote for fu*ks sake.

I can see heartwarming Greedner family get togethers in the decades to come with the girls and their families and the Weeping Pale Whale watching the vlogs for old times sake (the purported reason for constantly filming the girls) and fondly remembering CRAP's escalation of violence against the girls until she was imprisoned for 30 years for grievous bodily harm occasioning permanent injury.

Awl done.

[AthenaA]

I just re checked comments and they must be screening them. They were up quickly last night so I thought they had changed it back. But I just counted 56 comments out of 187 comments. That's a huge number to not get through. Maybe they can stop vlogging and spend that time getting the girls assessed and treated.

Pigs might fly too.

[BumblebeeBubbles]

Sunnyunicorn,
I agree. My older daughter gave up naps before she was 2. (I really never even tried after her infamous wall/crib/self painting I described earlier!)

Around the age two is pretty normal for naps to be reduced and slowly fading away. Some super active kids may give them up earlier or may need the extra nap until three. But they have 2 naps that are 2 hours each! If they don't sleep, they are left in their cages unless they throw a fit and get a little one on one time. That's 4 hours of "sleep" after 12 hours at night (they do 7-7). That is way way too much sleep for those girls. Especially since they don't exactly burn off the calories doing their "running" in the empty field. The amount of food they consume is not proportional to their output. And that amount of sleep will only increase their weight (especially with bottles of milk with them). IMO, there's no way those girls are sleeping 16 hours a day. Those prison-cages are that way for a reason.

[BumblebeeBubbles]

Whoever mentioned the girls never smile drew my attention to it. Did anyone see the picture posted at the RE 4th of July party last night? Ash and the four girls. The girls all looked spaced out and no smiles. Food coma. HaHa. My guess is that they are sick of having a camera in their face and don't understand that a camera means "smile". Why would they? It's on them when they cry, when they play, when they bathe, and when they take a crap behind the chair. Also, most children smile to new adventures, new toys, new experiences, new world . . . sadly treats and sugar and toys and parties and cameras are par for the course for these four. (And please note that she couldn't bypass the opportunity to complain about having all four of them).

[Krouton]

I don't know how it works there but speech therapy here in Australia it's only free till they are in school and there's a long waiting list so you need to onto it quickly . There is private buts it's very expensive


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Speech, OT and aba therapy would be free for the girls. If they wait til age three, there is a waiting list in my state. My little girl has been in therapy since 18 months, she goes to public preschool now, so she gets speech and OT there and aba therapy at home. There is evén a feeding therapist at school who evaluated her. Help is out there, I don't know what they are waiting for, these girls will be sent straight to special ed if they wait until kindergarten.