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Aussie Sapphire wrote:That is just frightening that they are talking about home schooling them, especially if there isn't a set curriculum or requirements!
Those girls have no hope. They are doing zero teaching now, and I can't imagine that will improve once they hit school age.
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Come on now give them some credit, they did flash cards with the girls that once when it was sponsored and they were getting paid. Remember how they stated doing the flash cards was one of Ashley's favorite things. Ahhhh the lies.
Maybe someone will sponsor homeschooling cirriculum and Hugsy can teach them after she worked a full day at her real job. Probably while she's living in their basement raising the girls.
Sisteroo wrote:Last week tyass said they were not sure if they would send the FF to public or private school, now this week they are going to do home school, what will it be next week, they talk in circles. They are a couple of attention whores who like to give ppl something to talk about with their endless stupid comments! Where ever or how ever the girls get schooled will probably change a million times over the next 2 years!
#savethedurls #parentsareidiots
Tyler has always shown some interest in homeschooling, I'm sure to justify his fat ass staying home and to maintain control over everything. Ass said no way would they homeschool she survived school just find.
Stellaboo wrote:
The Greedners prove their stupidity every day by allowing their children to act like feral animals.
It has never once occurred to them that doing the hard work with their kids up front will allow them to take it easy in the long run.
And that's the part that gets me as well. I simply do not understand why they don't realize that their girls will not just one day adopt all these necessary skills without constant teaching and reinforcement on the parent's part. That they have to teach them table manners, and appropriate behaviour, and how to be nice to other people and to respect them and their property. My whole goal as a parent was to raise kids that I would like as people at the end of the day - not just because they were mine but because they were likeable, decent, enjoyable-to-be-around human beings. That is not going to happen in this situation. Not even their parents are going to find them likeable as they mature. They might love them, but they won't like them. How sad is that?
They are not raising the girls to be decent human beings at ALL! I feel like that's probably the most important thing I am doing as a mother. I want my child to grow up to be a productive member of society - and to be an all around good person. They just don't care.
But then again, the Greedners are not good people themselves. They are dishonest, shallow, self-centered, greedy, lazy, and fame hungry. And at only 2.5 years old, the girls are on their way to becoming exactly like their parents.
They truly have no chance if they aren't allowed to attend mainstream school. I'm sure everyone remembers at least one of those "strange homeschooled kids" from their childhood. You know - the weird one with no social skills that you really don't want to play with but your mom makes you be nice to. Other kids are going to run screaming from the FF! Possibly with bite marks and all their belongings stolen.
P.S. - I'm definitely not against home schooling. As long as it's done well, and not used as an excuse to isolate your child for selfish reasons.
Homeschooling these 4 would be the worst thing that could happen. No friends. No social except with each other. No modeling of good behavior. No extinguishing of bad behavior. I've held out hope that the girls will be old, but someone some time will whack a couple of them on the ass and straighten them out. That's what they need.
I can't figure out Trashley. They dislike their responsibility and those four feral children so much that they abandon them at every turn and yet they are considering keeping them home all day?!? We are missing a piece somewhere. Something we're not getting. It's not logical. I support home schooling when it is done correctly. It is a fine line. And the worst thing that could happen for these 4. They will become more and more isolated. Home schooling, Trashley, is not taking your feral children to the museaum and calling it a field trip. You'd have to TEACH them math and English (when to use punctuation other than !!!!).
I do hope - truthfully - that preschool is not happening due to cost and so they can vlog all day. By age 5, the vlog will be dead and public education is free. They should be living in Mimi's basement by then and she can send the girl's to public school when Trashley sleep in. Bankruptcy and being made humble might be the best thing to happen to those girls.
They're probably not able to find a pre-school that allows one or the other......mostly Bison......to sit in class with his phone in the face of his "beauties". Eating Donits.....drinking his "diet" soda......laughing his pervert laugh....or, Lipshit, screeching and yelping all day with her huge mouth open wide. Or, napping.....
Krouton wrote:Do they getan actûal high school diploma or GED?
The laws/requirements depend on which state you live in. From what my family member told me there are certain online curriculums that do offer an actual diploma but they are pricy to "attend." There are others that do not offer it as well. You have the option of using books, online or even making your own curriculum. Scary right? Especially for the 4 miracles. The student has the option if they want, it's not needed or necessary, to take the GED or as it's now called in most if not all states the HISET. The colleges in the state where I used to live had placement tests and if you did not do well on those then they would not accept you unless you did have the GED. According to my relative there are more people who homeschool now than ever before and not just for religious reasons. As I said she didn't do it for that reason. Homeschoolers are accepted at most, if not all, colleges and a high school diploma is not necessary if you homeschool. Also the parent doing the homeschooling does not need to have any education or certifications to teach their child where I used to live.
We have two toddlers. When my husband gets home my kids go nuts. They jump all over him. My husband rough houses with them. Throws them in the air, chases them around the house, tickles them etc. Plays with them different than me. I don't see any of that typical dad relationship with Tyler.
amyisnewhere wrote:We have two toddlers. When my husband gets home my kids go nuts. They jump all over him. My husband rough houses with them. Throws them in the air, chases them around the house, tickles them etc. Plays with them different than me. I don't see any of that typical dad relationship with Tyler.
That's because he is with them 24/7. They are probably sick of his pervy laugh and his fat ass shoving a camera in their face all the time.
Also, I think it's weird that he doesn't seem to have a hobby or friends that are not related to him. Trashley at least has her makeup and a few girlfriends, but all Bison has is his daughters, his donits, and his sodas.
My brother stayed home with my nephew for the first year and a half of his life (his wife worked), and my nephew loved every second of it. They still have the same kind of relationship that your husband has with your kids - he can never get enough of his "dada".
The difference is that my brother maintained healthy boundaries and took time to have a life outside of his kid.
That, and he wasn't relying on his child to provide income for the family.
My nephew is 2 months younger than the quads and goes to preschool 5 days a week now.
He's quite advanced verbally, and sometimes it seems like you are talking to a 4 or 5 year old instead of a 2 year old.
It just goes to show that the quality of time you spend with your kids is just as important (if not more) as the quantity.
The Greedners haven't figured that out yet - and they probably won't.
I've noticed too their lack of friends. The only friends they really show are new ones (Binghams, the Stephanie Peanuts family). Then there's Lipshit Amanda who is sometimes an old friend but sometimes a new friend depending on Ashley's day, plus Sam, Ashley's best (only?) friend.
But Tyler has no one. None. Not once have I ever seen him with a friend or talk about a friend (and no, Tyler. Adam Busby doesn't count just because you've talked to him a few times on Twitter).
I find it quite bizarre. Ashley's only just gone 30 - she's still young, so it's strange she doesn't see any school friends still, or what about church friends?
SnarkieSophie wrote:I'm very pissed off someone swiped my iPad Mini whilst I was having a shower late this morning. I'd left it on my table and wash showering in the rooms ensuite bathroom. It was during the first visiting period of the day.
Thankfully it was covered by my insurance and a new replacement will be at home waiting for me, together with Kitty, when I'm discharged.
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Sophie, that makes me SO mad! What kind of loser steals something like that from a hospital patient?
I hope whoever took it has some very shitty luck coming their way! Like uncontrollable explosive diarrhea shitty!
Jane wrote:Hi! First time post to this board on YTMD.
So, I found the Gardners when the pregnancy photo went viral. I thought they were the sweetest couple with their adorable quadruplet girls. Our family almost sent them generous gifts.
The Gardners first surprised me with their sugary/high carb diet choices all day long. For an adult body (let alone a developing child) to be inundated with sugar/high refined carbs daily is very unhealthy. Ashley and Tyson, it's not personal opinion. No one is hating you. People are alarmed because there is documented risk for damage. Don't believe us - try using your boss "Google" and research it yourself. All the data is published.
I don't watch daily and I fast foward a lot. I guess I always watch in hopes they are learning and evolving.
I skimmed the anniversary video today. I'm so confused. Weren't they living with her parents before they did IVF? I might be wrong but I thought they indicated in the blogs and vlogs that they were struggling financially and didn't have enough money to live on their own, right? How did they go from living with parents to a lavish mcmansion, trips, clothing, cars etc.? Is there really a new world on YouTube where you go from rags to riches through videos giving away small children's privacy? I'm asking because this is new to me.
Wouldn't you, in their shoes, feel little weird about accepting all these donations? Personally, I won't even let my friend buy me lunch!
Would you go flashing your fertility induced financial windfall around on videos? I would personally think (well, give back what you don't need) or at least be humble. Why not tuck the well intended donations away in a college fund for each girl, future expenses etc. Right? I've met many people who have made legitimate fortunes (through a discovery or technology or service) and they are so modest about it. In fact, they downplay everything! It seems so "nouveau riche" (people who have recently acquired wealth, typically those perceived as ostentatious or lacking in good taste) to go flashing your wealth through donations and your children's privacy around. I thought the Gardners were giving and religious people? That's how they have promoted themselves...
Sorry but the seemingly overuse of Tyson's family as shown in the videos...it seems reasonable to ask your family to help if your kids are sick or you have a work need. However, I wouldn't dream of asking my Mother-in-law (she'd laugh in my face and I'd laugh with her) or bro/sister-in-laws to give up their precious time so I could go to a self-indulgent spa days, shopping excursions and fancy trips. THEN VIDEO TAPE MYSELF while others are slaving back at my house? I am embaressed for this display. I really am! My own issue I guess!
Regarding your fertility windfall - if you simply cannot bring yourselves to save money then buy some nice classes for your children (it was intended for your children afterall), heck even hire a cook to make you healthy food. Do it discretely and stay focused on your kids well being...Isn't it their privacy that has been sold without their informed consent?
Gardners, isn't it true that all these donations and support of your businesses have come from the love and generosity of people wishing your babies well? Even the Lipsense success is a direct result of people who followed the girls, generously wanted to support your babies and your financial hardship by supporting your business. Didn't you leverage your sales pitches that way?
I'm confused about how you're using your influence (gained through people's interest in your 4 babies). From what I understand a lot of hardworking Moms get in over their head withLipsense. I don't know if that's true, but that's what I've read. Again, most people sign up motivated by helping your, what seemed to be, financially struggling family. Is it true what people are saying that you have hired another Mom of 4 children, paying an hourly wage, to do all your Lipsense work while you go out shop, eat out, date nights and fancy trips? What about that Mom? When does she get a break? Is she less than you because she didn't use fertility treatments? I'm just trying to understand your rationale.
When does this turn into you taking advantage of people instead of legitimately needing donations for survival? I'm guessing many of your followers are pretty lonely people at various ages (perhaps many living of medicare and social security) and believe the endless "WE LOOOOVVVVEEEE YOU GUYSSS" that you say on camera so much. You appear to have intimate conversations with your viewers asking them for advice. Yet it's a one way conversation. This feels conniving to me. CON. The conversation goes one way with you seemingly constantly soliciting.
You're not a corporation. You're a family. This new seems to cross the line in a way that is really ethically fuzzy. You are not a fabricated show or sitcom, these are real children and you are divulging private matters and discussing real issues. You don't realize that you're with the heartstrings of your viewers to obtain wealth? Am I the only one that finds this a slippery slope?
I will give you an example in one of their vlogs (clip below) Most people buy our homes and do it privately. You, on the other hand, draw in your viewers like their close, beloved members of your inner circle. It's possible your viewers probably desperately want a loving family. Tricky. If you watch the whole clip you share (with your "close" friends "You guys are like family to us") how your girls need a backyard. Check out the way you look at each other - like you know you're drawing your viewers in. How many people sent you checks for your house after this clip?
Watch this clip...
Start at about 4:20, although they seem to build the story earlier.
Are you really still soliciting and accepting direct gifts to your PO Box from hardworking people?
Remember the Brady Bunch? Those kids had contracts, right? Are these kids being sold for episodes and their parents are spending all the money they make? Is that fair? How will these girls feel if it's all gone when they're older? Privacy sold (cannot be returned) and money spent?
I don't know...I'm super confused. I'm just sorting through this...
People ask why we watch? I'm concerned about this trend in our society. The future of kids. The integrity of things. It seems like more people need to be asking questions...
I'm brand new here but have been lurking for months. Jane what you say is so true that I had to create an account to thank you. I also need to join in the venting of these so called parents. It is like watching a disaster in slow motion
Krouton wrote:Do they get an actûal high school diploma or GED?
My daughter is going to an online high school and she will get a diploma once she completes the course. It's not that expensive, it's like $50 monthly but then, there is only one of her and not four. I don't have to teach her-everything is done online.
If you want to do home schooling and you don't want to do the book keeping, do the curriculum, there are options out there. K-12 is one. I'm almost sure they will give you a diploma.
In my state, you can go under an umbrella school and they will do most of the work for you and in the end, you will get a diploma but you do have to actually teach them. Umbrella schools are fairly inexpensive.
Even with everything online, I still have to poke my daughter to make sure she's not on Facebook and is actually doing her lessons, I still have to be there when she gets to something she doesn't understand.
She's autistic with ADD, it's a challenge some days.
Home schooling is a commitment.
The girls were ok on that vlog. It was only 11 minutes though. I did want poor Hugsy to have her balloons though. I bet there was one hell of a tantrum when they left without them. I wonder if they got her anything else. They might not have had time, they only spent the entire day shopping for themselves a couple of days ago. Can't expect them to think of others on their anniversary.
Ok a couple of things; welcome Jane and Charlotte. Feel free to continue to snark!
Regarding home schooling; I think they are blowing smoke out of their ass and have no idea what they are going to do. By the time they feel it important for the girls to go to school I doubt seriously they will be making a lot of money off of them. When the cash cow runs dry what will they do? They are not going to want to spend the day with the FF and by then the girls will have masters degrees on how to be brats. They are not that cute now and certainly will not be in a couple of years. Who wants to watch little roly poly 5-6 years old doing the same shit we have seen for the last 2 1/2 + years. Even most of the KAD will be disillusioned by then, of they will have a bird and a lump of coal left in their corner MAYBE. So in saying that, even TyASS & Trashley are not going to want to spend the day with them so their little dimpled asses will be put into a school and more than likely it will be public, whyyyyyyyyyyy? Well when the money is dried up who can afford private school????
Another thing regarding home school. My cousin home schooled her four children the right way. For one reason her husbands job moved them almost yearly up until a couple of years ago. One of her girls was born with a heart problem and her body would not have been able to withstand the going to school every day. My cousin had a rigid program and the two older (even the one with a heart problem) graduated with honors, both were awarded full scholarships to college. One online the other in college. Circumstances changed and they have a permanent residence and the last two kids were enrolled in a public school both placed in Honors classes. So that is home schooling done right.
Another example of homeschooling; my daughter had a good friend (one of four) They were always in trouble, the mother could not get them to school on time so she decided to home school. I had to put a stop to her calling my daughter at midnight, why?????????? The kids stayed up all night doing whatever, none of them finished high school, one got a GED and joined the army, he committed suicide. One is a dead beat. My daughter is still friends with one who has turned out better than I thought, has a couple of kids herself.
Ok back to the Greedners and homeschooling. If they home school, there will be no structure or schedule and I feel for those girls. I don't believe when it comes down to it that they will home school for the reason I gave at the beginning. They like usual are blowing smoke out of their asses. They do not know month to month WTF they are doing.
So if you already watched the vlog this morning you heard it was Madison's birthday & at the end of the vlog she tells everyone that she is going to school to be special needs teacher & is already working at a school, hopefully she can talk some sense into the Greedners about their girls speech delays...... if they don't listen to her I don't know who they will listen to, after watching the FF attempt to say words today on the vlog they need help asap!
#teammadison
The FF playing on the steps passing books back and forth.
TyASS gone to get a haircut and shave
Papa and Mimi came to visit but Mimi was laying down, had an MRI on her neck, been having migraines (Not going to snark on this, I have been having the same problem) Papa danced around the kitchen with the FF. They are cute doing stuff like that but they certainly need to learn patience.
TyASS picked up lunch of course
The Greedners took Madison balloons and let the girls run up and down the steps pulling and pushing on each other scaring the hell out of me
TyASS & Trashley got a babysitter to go out to eat for Madison's birthday (no idea who since it looked like all of his family was there)
Madison seems to have things together............She is 20...works in a high school with special needs students.......is in school to be a teacher, does not know what grade yet...........so there you have it another v'log in the day and life of the Greedners.
How have none of the girls been seriously injured or worse on the stairs? The pushing and shoving is unreal.
At on point one girl was yanking another girl backward in their race to get to the balloons first. And A$$ commenting about "taking each other out". Who does this?
Can you imagine if they did allow the girls to go to preschool? They would end up killing some poor innocent child the first time they had to handle stairs. Perhaps the no preschool is actually a blessing in disguise for all other children.
We are looking at this from the wrong perspective.
T$A are actually heroes. Who knows how many innocent children's lives have been saved by the decision to keep their terrors at home.
Madison seems like a sweet child who just wants to please. I find it interesting that she is the youngest and A$$ is the youngest. Just shows that birth order in families is not necessarily the deciding factor in personality.
A$$ interrupted Madison while Madison was trying to thank "fans" for their birthday wishes. Why was that not surprising?
I, too, hope the balloons were not all Hugsy received. She deserves so much more.
Oh and T$$ still looks like a creep. It wouldn't have mattered what they did to his hair. He can't change what a scumbag he is.
Sophie, that makes me SO mad! What kind of loser steals something like that from a hospital patient?
