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momo_3849 wrote:Long time lurker first time poster blah blah.. just watched the "Sex life after two kids" video and noticed how Kyra said she really wasn't proud of what they did regarding how they met... did Oscar cheat on Balou or am I missing something??
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Im pretty sure he didn't they had the story of like how they met or started dating or whatever and they kinda explained they werent together and then him and kyra got together. They're probably just saying they weren't proud because they probably had sex on the first date or something and they don't wanna be judged for it. Idk just guessing
momo_3849 wrote:Long time lurker first time poster blah blah.. just watched the "Sex life after two kids" video and noticed how Kyra said she really wasn't proud of what they did regarding how they met... did Oscar cheat on Balou or am I missing something??
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Im pretty sure he didn't they had the story of like how they met or started dating or whatever and they kinda explained they werent together and then him and kyra got together. They're probably just saying they weren't proud because they probably had sex on the first date or something and they don't wanna be judged for it. Idk just guessing
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Yeah cheating would've been my guess but they followed up their point of "not being proud of how they got together" with one about it not being anything that hurt other people.
That could easily be a point to keep it light and may be a lie potentially idk.
But sleeping together on the first date is a good guess!!
I think she just matured a little bit and realized it wasn't a story to be proud of. Like it's not the kind of "how we got together" story you can tell your kids and make them dream of. Oscar and Balou were not dating anymore but they were forquite a few time (I think they said 2years or something?) and then the month they broke up Kyra and him started dating. I remember in their old video when Levi was a baby she didn't express any remorse and said that Balou told her something like how could you do this to me, I'm your best friend and Kyra said well why would I choose my best friend over a relationship that could possibily last and yes I had a baby with him so I was right to choose him over her. She still had the high school mindset back then, I think with 2 kids now she matured and realized they hurt Balou, that's it.
Lyanna wrote:I think she just matured a little bit and realized it wasn't a story to be proud of. Like it's not the kind of "how we got together" story you can tell your kids and make them dream of. Oscar and Balou were not dating anymore but they were forquite a few time (I think they said 2years or something?) and then the month they broke up Kyra and him started dating. I remember in their old video when Levi was a baby she didn't express any remorse and said that Balou told her something like how could you do this to me, I'm your best friend and Kyra said well why would I choose my best friend over a relationship that could possibily last and yes I had a baby with him so I was right to choose him over her. She still had the high school mindset back then, I think with 2 kids now she matured and realized they hurt Balou, that's it.
Yup exactly. Props to Kyra for that, I'm really glad she matured over the last 2 years, being a mom has done her good. I have to admit when they announced their 2nd pregnancy I though "oh God, this is gonna be a disaster", but hey...she's doing a good job.
Rosiex3 wrote:Idk if anyone has mention this yet, but I cannot stand that Levi sits on the counter and eats his food practically off the table i.e Kyra's recent snap. It bugs me to no end. Are they that lazy to sit him on a chair and teach him to use a fork and a spoon? He'll be two soon. Ugh
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He knows how to do both these things, he has done them in other vlogs (i forget which but alaya was eating on the table at the same time a levi in a chair both eating spaghetti). Not sure why if he can do it they dont do it all the time (my guess is it takes more supervision then putting him in a highchair!)
Rosiex3 wrote:Idk if anyone has mention this yet, but I cannot stand that Levi sits on the counter and eats his food practically off the table i.e Kyra's recent snap. It bugs me to no end. Are they that lazy to sit him on a chair and teach him to use a fork and a spoon? He'll be two soon. Ugh
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He knows how to do both these things, he has done them in other vlogs (i forget which but alaya was eating on the table at the same time a levi in a chair both eating spaghetti). Not sure why if he can do it they dont do it all the time (my guess is it takes more supervision then putting him in a highchair!)
Probably, but I guess it bothers me because It doesn't pass in my house.. No kids physically eating on the table lol
Lyanna wrote:I think she just matured a little bit and realized it wasn't a story to be proud of. Like it's not the kind of "how we got together" story you can tell your kids and make them dream of. Oscar and Balou were not dating anymore but they were forquite a few time (I think they said 2years or something?) and then the month they broke up Kyra and him started dating. I remember in their old video when Levi was a baby she didn't express any remorse and said that Balou told her something like how could you do this to me, I'm your best friend and Kyra said well why would I choose my best friend over a relationship that could possibily last and yes I had a baby with him so I was right to choose him over her. She still had the high school mindset back then, I think with 2 kids now she matured and realized they hurt Balou, that's it.
See what i dont get is that they have told this before, they are making out with a R rated version like there is more to the above. I mean i think you are right and she has matured where she isnt proud of the above but there must be more to it otherwise they would just refer people back to the original story/recap not tease more to the story.
Having Levi seated on those high backless chairs at the kitchen island always makes me so nervous. He could easily fall and bump his head on the wooden floors from that height.. Those aren't child friendly chairs/stools...
Ilovecats wrote:Does it seem strange to anyone else that this was Oscars first time putting always to bed?
No. My son is 1 1/2. His dad has never put him to bed
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His dad probably isn't a stay at home dad like Oscar, right?
She said herself that she nursed the baby then put her to bed. It doesn't seem like he avoided it.[/quote]
she stopped breastfeeding a while ago. She said that alot of times she or kyla will feed alaya baby food and then giver her a bottle before bed. But as you saw with oscar he gives her the bottle in the crib like he did with levi (hello rotting teeth), so i think kyra just does that too bc it seemed normal. i found it weird oscar gave her the bottle and kyra said shes not hungry rn. Then why give it to her?! That creates bad habits. Also do they leave the bottle in the bed for alaya to drink in the night? doesnt it spoil?!
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Lyanna wrote:I think she just matured a little bit and realized it wasn't a story to be proud of. Like it's not the kind of "how we got together" story you can tell your kids and make them dream of. Oscar and Balou were not dating anymore but they were forquite a few time (I think they said 2years or something?) and then the month they broke up Kyra and him started dating. I remember in their old video when Levi was a baby she didn't express any remorse and said that Balou told her something like how could you do this to me, I'm your best friend and Kyra said well why would I choose my best friend over a relationship that could possibily last and yes I had a baby with him so I was right to choose him over her. She still had the high school mindset back then, I think with 2 kids now she matured and realized they hurt Balou, that's it.
i think cheating MAY have happened. oftentimes, when two people get together so soon after they break up with their old bf/gf there was cheating or at least romantic feelings before they broke up with their s/o's. I remember kyra saying she and oscar would hangout and talk alot when he was dating balou and she was dating her old bf
Whatever happened back then, a lot of teenage relationships have dodgy starts/endings, especially when friend's ex's are involved. She probably feels bad about it 1) because she's grown up now, and 2) because that seedy start to the most important relationship of her life will always be that. Not some romantic fairytale of how she met the love of her life and father of her kids.
I preferred when they vlogged the whole day. Now its all choppy and 3min into the vlog they say good night to the kids. Maybe cause Oscar sleeps in so late?
Unless Oscar is up doing some kind of work online I don't understand how Kyra puts up with that shit.
How is it fair that he sleeps literally all day while she feeds, cares for and plays with the kids all on her own. He has the privilege of being at home full time with his kids and he is missing their childhood because he is only awake for a few hours when they are.
Kyra is doing so much better I honestly hope she is proud of herself and sees how far she has come. When I started watching she slept all day too and was constantly negative and whinging about everything. Now she is happy, humble, positive and super engaged with both kids.
I hope Oscar pulls himself out of whatever is going on for him because he's just not stepping up right now
puzzledbyit28 wrote:
As someone with severe anxiety/OCD, you don't need someone to drive you to and from exposure therapy. When you do this type of therapy, it's in a controlled setting and your therapist only exposes you to your trigger as much as you can handle in an outpatient setting. They always make sure you're ok before you go home. If you're having a panic attack and your appointment time has passed, they'll help you through it until you're able to take care of yourself again. It's also better for you to do this type of therapy on your own. If you lean on someone else for this, it's easy to convince yourself that you are only able to get through it because you have a significant other/family member there. You need to go on your own in order to gain confidence in yourself.
Panic attacks also can't last more than a short amount of time. You can have a bunch of panic attacks consecutively, but you won't be acting the way Kyra was in that hailstorm video for hours on end. They might look scary, but panic attacks are actually relatively harmless physically. Once the panic passes, your body goes back to normal (although you might feel more anxious than normal or a bit tired).
There are also different types of treatment for anxiety and OCD. Some therapists do a 6-12 week course of exposure therapy (CBT), but as another form of treatment, you might also see a therapist for talk therapy for weekly sessions with no set time to it. From what Kyra said, it sounds like she's doing an intensive CBT program at the moment, so there's a set amount of time for the heavy duty course. It didn't sound to me like they stopped therapy because it was too expensive. It seemed more like Kyra is just trying this new type of therapy (which I think is great. CBT is highly effective and should really help her.)
btw i wasn't suggesting oscar went to the therapy with her, just drive her. But thanks for info, was interesting to know a bit more about it.
I got the impression from the end of their 'diagnosed with OCD' vlog at 16:30 that she had stopped because it was too expensive without insurance, but maybe she is talking about stopping weekly therapy after her course..
Honestly, mental health care is really hard for anyone to afford. I have a full-time job with health insurance, but most plans don't cover the majority of mental health care services, so you end up having to pay hundreds of dollars per appointment. I had to switch therapists and switch styles of therapy because it was $500/week just for appointments (so $2000/month, which is more than my monthly for my apartment). That's without factoring in medication. And as Kyra said, not all therapists do the type of therapy she's trying, so it can be hard to find someone covered under health insurance who does the type of therapy a person may need. I'm not sure what their health insurance situation is, but even if they do have it, Kyra's treatment likely isn't covered.
The one thing I would say lifestyle-wise is that Kyra would benefit greatly from structured days, and O&K seem to have absolutely no structure in their lives. Lack of structure makes anxiety 10 times worse.
Oscar could definitely step up by not sleeping all day. There are a billion families on YouTube and he's the only dad I know of who doesn't go to bed until 3 a.m. There's no way he's up editing until 3 in the morning. I'm curious as to what time the kids get up in the morning. If Kyra is staying up even til midnight, then getting up with the kids at 7 a.m. and taking care of them by herself until 4 in the afternoon, that's a lot of stress to put on someone who is going through exposure therapy. Plus, if the kids go to bed around 7 at night (just saying based on what a normal bed time for a toddler is), then he only gets 3-4 hours with his kids each day even though he's a stay-at-home dad. You'd think he'd want to spend more time with them.
I don't know anything, but I remember when the YouTube vlogger dad cheating scandals came out (nive-nulls and shay Carl) people mentioned how their wife's would always say "oh poor ____ he's always up until 4 editing the blogs", except that was the time where they would chat with their mistresses because everyone else was asleep. Of course I don't think that's happening here but you just made me think about that
Kyra is looking SO GOOD lately. You can really tell her mental health is improving just by looking at her. There was a period of time she just did not give a shit about what she looked like or how she portrayed herself.
Lyanna wrote:I think she just matured a little bit and realized it wasn't a story to be proud of. Like it's not the kind of "how we got together" story you can tell your kids and make them dream of. Oscar and Balou were not dating anymore but they were forquite a few time (I think they said 2years or something?) and then the month they broke up Kyra and him started dating. I remember in their old video when Levi was a baby she didn't express any remorse and said that Balou told her something like how could you do this to me, I'm your best friend and Kyra said well why would I choose my best friend over a relationship that could possibily last and yes I had a baby with him so I was right to choose him over her. She still had the high school mindset back then, I think with 2 kids now she matured and realized they hurt Balou, that's it.
i think cheating MAY have happened. oftentimes, when two people get together so soon after they break up with their old bf/gf there was cheating or at least romantic feelings before they broke up with their s/o's. I remember kyra saying she and oscar would hangout and talk alot when he was dating balou and she was dating her old bf
Except they did not start dating the same month they broke up. Kyra said that Balou and Oscar had been broken up for a while but Balou still kept Oscar on a string. Kyra saw Balou hooking up with other guys and she didn't like that because she had befriended Oscar (he would ask her for advice on Balou). Then finally one day Oscar asked Kyra if he still had a chance with Balou and she was like "no, and also she's been hooking up with other guys". And, according to Kyra, then she started flirting with Oscar and Oscar agreed. I honestly think Oscar still had feelings for Balou when he got with her, and she was probably a rebound first
Kyra is looking SO GOOD lately. You can really tell her mental health is improving just by looking at her. There was a period of time she just did not give a shit about what she looked like or how she portrayed herself.
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right? I remember those days when she didn't even shower.. People here used to be so mean about it too, clearly she was in a very bad place back then
I hope Oscar pulls himself out of whatever is going on for him because he's just not stepping up right now[/quote]
He needs to stop calorie restricting and being anal about eating a specific weight of actual healthy food. He's losing energy from that, and add working out intensely on top of staying up until 3am editing. He's just a mess. Kyra cooks (mostly) healthy foods for dinner, and he won't even eat most of it because it's too high in calories. As an athlete you'd think he would know that energy input (calories) equals energy output. Your body NEEDS calories to survive!!
