OkBaby: Part 8

[abigailaura]

The name is NOT novalee, thank god

[kgiff77]

The name is NOT novalee, thank god

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[Unknowngirly]

This may sound really harsh.. but I don't get why both Keren and Kyra seem to not really want VBACS. They only say they do but its obvious they would just rather have repeat c-secctions. I work in the medical profession for an OBGYN and he has told me numerous times that in 80-90% of cases c-sections aren't medically necessary. Doctors and insurance companies make more money off of c-sections and due to liability reasons doctors in the USA are very quick to perform them. Kyra's first c-section was medically necessary of course. However the whole "Keren having narrow hips" is a total phenomenon. Yes, some women have a harder time dilating and the birthing process can take longer but it is better for the baby and mom WHEN POSSIBLE to have a vaginal birth. It seems like they both just want to take the fastest route to having their babies. Not to mention Kyra just wanting a c-section because its easiest to have something scheduled etc. I fully get that but whats best for you and your baby should come first! Hire a babysitter from care.com or something.... Also the bullshit Kyra said about her being cut a certain way with her c-section for Levi that puts her at higher risk for a VBAC is total bullshit. I have scrubbed down hundreds of c-section patients and assisted in loads of c-section procedures in women having them for the same reason Kyra did and they have gone on to have successful VBACS. Their risks remain the same as any other woman who had a c-section prior regardless of the reason for it. I want to see a damn vaginal birth vlog on youtube! I feel like every youtuber is getting a c-section lately....

I've only seen a few of Kerens vlogs so I'm not really sure what she's like but when it comes to her having a narrow pelvis it actually is pretty dangerous to have a baby vaginally. You're right that it can make the birthing process longer but if that happens it isn't safe for a baby to be stuck in the birth canal for a prolonged period of time because the contractions compress their heads. Which can cause other delivery problems. So it's not always better for mom and baby to have a vaginal birth.
In Kyra's case, I would think she would be all for a vaginal birth. I don't even understand why a c-section is an option? She didn't have a section the first time because of any pelvic abnormalities or delivery complications it was caused by placenta previa which isn't something that's guaranteed to happen every pregnancy. And I'm pretty sure her doctors have been looking out for that this entire pregnancy. So I'm just confused as to why she would be considering a c-section? I mean I had a vaginal birth with my own complications and have never had a section so I don't know a whole lot about it so I don't know.

exactly keren mentioned jackson was stuck in the birth canal for quite some time and he came out cone headed so that is why they went C with landon. i dont understand why kyra doesnt try. I think she's just more familiar with a C

I thought all babies came out with a cone shape to their heads if you give birth vaginally?

[ecf997]

The name is NOT novalee, thank god

YES, thank you Jesus. I hate that name personally Lol. Some name combos work well together (ex, Annabelle is a name combo that I love), but Novalee sounds so odd. So I'm glad Kyra didn't go with it.

[staceymj]

I've only seen a few of Kerens vlogs so I'm not really sure what she's like but when it comes to her having a narrow pelvis it actually is pretty dangerous to have a baby vaginally. You're right that it can make the birthing process longer but if that happens it isn't safe for a baby to be stuck in the birth canal for a prolonged period of time because the contractions compress their heads. Which can cause other delivery problems. So it's not always better for mom and baby to have a vaginal birth.
In Kyra's case, I would think she would be all for a vaginal birth. I don't even understand why a c-section is an option? She didn't have a section the first time because of any pelvic abnormalities or delivery complications it was caused by placenta previa which isn't something that's guaranteed to happen every pregnancy. And I'm pretty sure her doctors have been looking out for that this entire pregnancy. So I'm just confused as to why she would be considering a c-section? I mean I had a vaginal birth with my own complications and have never had a section so I don't know a whole lot about it so I don't know.

exactly keren mentioned jackson was stuck in the birth canal for quite some time and he came out cone headed so that is why they went C with landon. i dont understand why kyra doesnt try. I think she's just more familiar with a C

I thought all babies came out with a cone shape to their heads if you give birth vaginally?

No not at all


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[ecf997]

So apparently Korina is on a plane to come watch Levi. Wonder if this means labor has started for Kyra, but she hasn't formally announced it yet? It doesn't make sense to have her come so early, unless active labor had begun but Kyra wants to keep it a surprise until things start really moving. And who's watching her kids?

Edit: Nvm. Read her next tweet.

[Chook123]

Kyra said in comment of the day she is having a c section because they cut her uterus vertically not horizontally with Levi because of the placenta. This makes having a vbac more dangerous as the chance of rupture is higher

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[annapaulndaniel]

If these girls are being recommended to have c sections by doctors who are any of us to question that???? Sure we have a bit of information but we don't have medical degrees or access to their medical files.

I want to be induced due to personal reasons, I live 1hr from my hospital and my last son was born in 2hrs. My husband works an hour away and the closest person we have to watch our son is 1.5hrs away now because my Mum had a bad accident two weeks ago and can't help out now. I was told to call an ambulance, bring my son with me while in active labour, meet my husband at the hospital and keep our son there until someone can pick him up. Won't even consider induction. If the doctors are actively recommending something it is because it is what they think is best.

[Hellohiyesitsme]

Because they are all to fucking impatient and lazy, that they just want to meet/see their baby in the quickest way possible.
I've only had a vaginal delivery with my son and I can't imagine the healing time a c section takes.
I feel like doctors nowadays push c sections harder because it's quicker for them..
My doctor kept saying to me that I needed one cause I was pushing for like 7 hrs , aside from the time I labored.. but I said no over and over and told them I would only go in if my life or the baby's was in danger.. a couple more hours later he was born perfectly healthy. If they really wanted it they could do it. They are just ready to pop the baby out and get more views and a fat check.

dont be so judgy. Some women cant handle that pain or stress, esp with women who have anxiety or low pain tolerance.. every woman is diff with what she can stand.

Uh, I'm sorry, but a "low pain tolerance" is not a good enough reason to have an elective c-section in my opinion. It's no secret that child birth is painful, and I'm sure every woman knows that going into it. Having a c-section should only be done if it is medically necessary, because babies who are born via c-section are not exposed to good bacteria and are more at risk of breathing problems at birth and during childhood because the contracting muscles have not removed fluid from their lungs. I think it's relatively selfish to put your comfort over your baby's health. Just for clarification, I am NOT referring to medically necessary c-sections here, so don't get offended.

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

Because they are all to fucking impatient and lazy, that they just want to meet/see their baby in the quickest way possible.
I've only had a vaginal delivery with my son and I can't imagine the healing time a c section takes.
I feel like doctors nowadays push c sections harder because it's quicker for them..
My doctor kept saying to me that I needed one cause I was pushing for like 7 hrs , aside from the time I labored.. but I said no over and over and told them I would only go in if my life or the baby's was in danger.. a couple more hours later he was born perfectly healthy. If they really wanted it they could do it. They are just ready to pop the baby out and get more views and a fat check.

dont be so judgy. Some women cant handle that pain or stress, esp with women who have anxiety or low pain tolerance.. every woman is diff with what she can stand.

Uh, I'm sorry, but a "low pain tolerance" is not a good enough reason to have an elective c-section in my opinion. It's no secret that child birth is painful, and I'm sure every woman knows that going into it. Having a c-section should only be done if it is medically necessary, because babies who are born via c-section are not exposed to good bacteria and are more at risk of breathing problems at birth and during childhood because the contracting muscles have not removed fluid from their lungs. I think it's relatively selfish to put your comfort over your baby's health. Just for clarification, I am NOT referring to medically necessary c-sections here, so don't get offended.

i understand that but some women honestly cant handle pain at all and have very adverse reactions. I for one wouldnt have a C just bc i dont want to face pain but we arent keren and dont know anything about her medical history.

[annapaulndaniel]

She didn't have one because she couldn't handle pain??? This site is like Chinese Whispers lol.

She had a c section because a doctor told her she had a 20-30% chance of delivering vaginally and she didn't want to put the baby under stress in a long drawn out Labour and end up with an emergency c section anyway. Its not like she pulled the whole thong out of thin air, that is exactly what happened with her last birth.

Also where are you all getting this low pain threshold? Her contractions were hitting over a hundred on the monitor that is a legit, full labour contraction

[ecf997]

Wait but why are we talking about Keren in an OKBaby thread

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

so oscar broke the camera yet again OH MY GOODNESS. how many cameras is it now?

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

She didn't have one because she couldn't handle pain??? This site is like Chinese Whispers lol.

She had a c section because a doctor told her she had a 20-30% chance of delivering vaginally and she didn't want to put the baby under stress in a long drawn out Labour and end up with an emergency c section anyway. Its not like she pulled the whole thong out of thin air, that is exactly what happened with her last birth.

Also where are you all getting this low pain threshold? Her contractions were hitting over a hundred on the monitor that is a legit, full labour contraction

i totally agree and that is what i posted on keren's thread bc people were hating on her there too. shes mentioned before she has low pain tolerance and i gave that as an example that diff women perceive pain differently so we cant judge for that either.

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

why is keren lifting jackson? I thought you cant do that for a while after your C--a few weeks at least.

LOL at khoa: "if it werent for nonni we'd be eating pizza the entire week" but keren is up and walking and feeling good (she can cook if she wanted to) and khoa has nothing wrong and at home...why cant he cook?

[Hellohiyesitsme]

She didn't have one because she couldn't handle pain??? This site is like Chinese Whispers lol.

She had a c section because a doctor told her she had a 20-30% chance of delivering vaginally and she didn't want to put the baby under stress in a long drawn out Labour and end up with an emergency c section anyway. Its not like she pulled the whole thong out of thin air, that is exactly what happened with her last birth.

Also where are you all getting this low pain threshold? Her contractions were hitting over a hundred on the monitor that is a legit, full labour contraction

I don't think anyone was saying that's why either of them had a c-section? Someone said that's why SOME women (not referring to Karen or Kyra) have c-sections, and I responded saying that's not a good enough reason in my opinion, again, not talking about Karen or kyra specifically.

[js2013]

If you have a low pain tolerance then a c section is certainly not the way out either...that recovery pain is rough

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[Ohthehumanity]

Been lurking for awhile, but this is my first post! I started off actually liking o and k but now not so much.

Did anyone else notice in their latest vlog Levi is forward facing! I thought kyra said previously she was going to keep him rear facing till at least 2!

[perctpiper]

Been lurking for awhile, but this is my first post! I started off actually liking o and k but now not so much.

Did anyone else notice in their latest vlog Levi is forward facing! I thought kyra said previously she was going to keep him rear facing till at least 2!

She said she had to keep him rear facing, probably misunderstanding a recommendation vs law. I'm sure they realized it was legal to rotate him and did. I've almost never seen OK choose the safest option for Levi/themselves/mini bug.

[MommaLindsey2]

Wtf! Why would they forward face Levi? That is so fucked up and irresponsible. He is still a baby and doesn't need to grow up just because he is going to be a big brother. If they wrecked he could be seriously injured. Look up internal decapitation.


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