C&K: The Struggle is Real...ly Hard to Relate (Part 14)

[lmmomSD]

She seemed pretty drunk the night before as well in their first video.


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Grandberry, or Brittany? Brittany _really_ shouldn't be drinking. The term is clean and _sober_. You are not supposed to use mind altering substances. Every day in the NA meetings, they say you have to work your own program, but "Alcohol is a drug. Period". She isn't taking her recovery seriously if she is drinking. And yeah, I do judge that, considering she just got out of jail.

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[calliepaige]

She seemed pretty drunk the night before as well in their first video.


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Grandberry, or Brittany? Brittany _really_ shouldn't be drinking. The term is clean and _sober_. You are not supposed to use mind altering substances. Every day in the NA meetings, they say you have to work your own program, but "Alcohol is a drug. Period". She isn't taking her recovery seriously if she is drinking. And yeah, I do judge that, considering she just got out of jail.

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Yeah, Brittany. Looked like some mixed drinks and red wine in their first vlog when it was just her and Corey in the video.

But in the Halloween video grandberry and Brittany both seemed drunk.



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[calliepaige]

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[askeptichere]

Even in C&K’s Halloween vlog they show her drinking a beer. I don’t think she’s trying to hide it, or if she is, she’s doing a terrible job.


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[calliepaige]

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[Playsinrain]

I don't think she's trying to hide it either.. oh well. Too each their own. Cullen and Katie have plenty of places to crash if someone can't drive home. I highly doubt Grandberry would be driving under the influence.

[calliepaige]

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And one more


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[askeptichere]

Looks like Cullen and Britney stole a boat on instastories...


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[Playsinrain]

Looks like Cullen and Britney stole a boat on instastories...


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I thought that was like a community boat that anyone could use. I know its been sitting out there by that pond since they first started showing it after they moved there and Cullen said that it was there for whoever to use. I'm more concerned with them having Gaines in the boat with no paddles. How they hell are they gonna get back to shore? and it's cold for Alabama today. If that thing starts taking on water they are all 3 screwed. He should at least got some paddles, even if the water isn't deep enough to warrant life jackets.

[nutbagmcgee]

I don’t think B is trying to hide the drinking at all. Is she not allowed to drink?

I’m thinking it is going to open a whole box of worms with her vlogging for herself and C&K.

[lmmomSD]

I don’t think B is trying to hide the drinking at all. Is she not allowed to drink?

I’m thinking it is going to open a whole box of worms with her vlogging for herself and C&K.

It's not that she isn't allowed to. She just got out of jail for drug trafficking and getting caught in jail with meth in her system. I know it's none of my business. But (outing myself) as someone in recovery who takes it very seriously, seeing someone who just got out of jail drinking like that screams "trouble" to me.
Pain meds were my thing. But I didn't like NA meetings because they were full of relapsing meth addicts (in my area) so I got clean in AA. But in the NA meetings I went to, they strongly discouraged drinking. Alcohol is a drug, the same as pot. It's just a matter of legality. It's about escaping your problems with a mind altering substance. They hammer into your head that alcohol is a drug, and that if you're drinking, you're not in recovery.
And I wasn't talking about drinking and driving. Brittany shouldn't be drinking if she's taking her recovery seriously. But apparently, since she's living in the big lovely home with the boyfriend, except for cramping her style for a little bit, it didn't seem to mess up her life that much. And that's what I meant when I said addicts need consequences. You have to hit bottom before you can really get recovery. Doesn't look like she has.
Rant over.

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[Playsinrain]

I don’t think B is trying to hide the drinking at all. Is she not allowed to drink?

I’m thinking it is going to open a whole box of worms with her vlogging for herself and C&K.

Just as long as her probation doesn't have alcohol restrictions shes allowed to drink all she wants. Her probation probably doesn't include not drinking bc in Alabama they only test for alcohol if your crime was alcohol related. Her's wasn't, so yes, she's free to drink all she wants. IDK what the big deal is myself. I mean she shouldn't show up at her probation officer's office drunk but you get me.. lol

[askeptichere]

Looks like Cullen and Britney stole a boat on instastories...


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I thought that was like a community boat that anyone could use. I know its been sitting out there by that pond since they first started showing it after they moved there and Cullen said that it was there for whoever to use. I'm more concerned with them having Gaines in the boat with no paddles. How they hell are they gonna get back to shore? and it's cold for Alabama today. If that thing starts taking on water they are all 3 screwed. He should at least got some paddles, even if the water isn't deep enough to warrant life jackets.

I really doubt it is a community boat, especially if it doesn't have paddles or life vests. Anyone under the age of 8 have to have a coast guard approved lifejacket on ANY boat in the state of Alabama. I doubt the homeowners association would want to be liable for a drowning by providing an unsafe boat for people to use. I assumed it was there for a maintenance crew to use.

[Playsinrain]

I don’t think B is trying to hide the drinking at all. Is she not allowed to drink?

I’m thinking it is going to open a whole box of worms with her vlogging for herself and C&K.

It's not that she isn't allowed to. She just got out of jail for drug trafficking and getting caught in jail with meth in her system. I know it's none of my business. But (outing myself) as someone in recovery who takes it very seriously, seeing someone who just got out of jail drinking like that screams "trouble" to me.
Pain meds were my thing. But I didn't like NA meetings because they were full of relapsing meth addicts (in my area) so I got clean in AA. But in the NA meetings I went to, they strongly discouraged drinking. Alcohol is a drug, the same as pot. It's just a matter of legality. It's about escaping your problems with a mind altering substance. They hammer into your head that alcohol is a drug, and that if you're drinking, you're not in recovery.
And I wasn't talking about drinking and driving. Brittany shouldn't be drinking if she's taking her recovery seriously. But apparently, since she's living in the big lovely home with the boyfriend, except for cramping her style for a little bit, it didn't seem to mess up her life that much. And that's what I meant when I said addicts need consequences. You have to hit bottom before you can really get recovery. Doesn't look like she has.
Rant over.

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I figure prison time is pretty rock bottom. And she did have consequences, she spent years in prison. It's not like she got out of it and has been a free woman all these years. We also have no idea if she is in NA or any sort of program like that. I know they are successful programs and turn people's lives around, i'm not doubting that, but we honestly don't know where she is in her recovery. She's for sure not on meth anymore, bc we all know if Katie had one hint that she was she would not be letting her around her kids, and her probation officer wouldnt be too keen on that either. If she's in a recovery program then great for. I'm glad she is. But we don't know if thats the case. Assuming she's not taking her addition seriously and saying she needs to hit rock bottom is kinda mean spirited. You have no idea what her rock bottom is, or what anyone elses but your own is. I don't mean this hateful, i'm very proud of you for overcoming your demons the way that you have, that deserves a HUGE congratulations... but to say you don't think she's hit rock bottom and that she's not taking her past drug addiction seriously isn't helping her in anyway. I can't judge the girl on her recovery bc we know absolutely nothing about it other than she's now clean (of meth anyway or assumedly so since she's not been locked back up yet) and out of jail.

[HelloSweetie]

I don’t think B is trying to hide the drinking at all. Is she not allowed to drink?

I’m thinking it is going to open a whole box of worms with her vlogging for herself and C&K.

It's not that she isn't allowed to. She just got out of jail for drug trafficking and getting caught in jail with meth in her system. I know it's none of my business. But (outing myself) as someone in recovery who takes it very seriously, seeing someone who just got out of jail drinking like that screams "trouble" to me.
Pain meds were my thing. But I didn't like NA meetings because they were full of relapsing meth addicts (in my area) so I got clean in AA. But in the NA meetings I went to, they strongly discouraged drinking. Alcohol is a drug, the same as pot. It's just a matter of legality. It's about escaping your problems with a mind altering substance. They hammer into your head that alcohol is a drug, and that if you're drinking, you're not in recovery.
And I wasn't talking about drinking and driving. Brittany shouldn't be drinking if she's taking her recovery seriously. But apparently, since she's living in the big lovely home with the boyfriend, except for cramping her style for a little bit, it didn't seem to mess up her life that much. And that's what I meant when I said addicts need consequences. You have to hit bottom before you can really get recovery. Doesn't look like she has.
Rant over.

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I figure prison time is pretty rock bottom. And she did have consequences, she spent years in prison. It's not like she got out of it and has been a free woman all these years. We also have no idea if she is in NA or any sort of program like that. I know they are successful programs and turn people's lives around, i'm not doubting that, but we honestly don't know where she is in her recovery. She's for sure not on meth anymore, bc we all know if Katie had one hint that she was she would not be letting her around her kids, and her probation officer wouldnt be too keen on that either. If she's in a recovery program then great for. I'm glad she is. But we don't know if thats the case. Assuming she's not taking her addition seriously and saying she needs to hit rock bottom is kinda mean spirited. You have no idea what her rock bottom is, or what anyone elses but your own is. I don't mean this hateful, i'm very proud of you for overcoming your demons the way that you have, that deserves a HUGE congratulations... but to say you don't think she's hit rock bottom and that she's not taking her past drug addiction seriously isn't helping her in anyway. I can't judge the girl on her recovery bc we know absolutely nothing about it other than she's now clean (of meth anyway or assumedly so since she's not been locked back up yet) and out of jail.

I think you're giving Katie too much credit. If B has been out only a month or so and Cullen's family is already drinking and partying freely around her, then that's a major red flag for denial and enabling.

The attention from YT is also incredibly addicting... I agree with lmmomsd that it can get much worse and that it's unlikely any recovery program will allow alcohol consumption.

[Playsinrain]

The thing is, we have no clue if she's in a recovery program. We can't judge her on NA standards if we don't know that she's involved with them. Obviously she's not in a program that expects her to refrain from booze or she wouldn't be so openly consuming it. I get the correlation between hard drugs and any mind altering substance, i get that you are not clean by NA standards if you drink. But we don't know her situation. Either saying that she hasn't hit rock bottom or hasn't had repercussions for her actions, doesn't sit well with me bc you don't know what anyone's rock bottom is but your own, or if someone says "I hit rock bottom". Rock bottom for me might be getting my first DUi, but rock bottom for someone else might be overdosing for the 15th time. It's all on a personal basis.

[nutbagmcgee]

There are a million other things to judge her for, I think it’s funny some are so focused on her drinking.

Prison, drugs, selling drugs in prison, getting out and moving right in with Corey, acting like they have been together forever when we all know she was with someone else when she went to prison, so, so many other things. To focus on the drinking is a bit redic.

[HelloSweetie]

There are a million other things to judge her for, I think it’s funny some are so focused on her drinking.

Prison, drugs, selling drugs in prison, getting out and moving right in with Corey, acting like they have been together forever when we all know she was with someone else when she went to prison, so, so many other things. To focus on the drinking is a bit redic.

Oh I judge all those thing too and my enabling concerns about Cullen's family have a lot to do with all those as well.

[lmmomSD]

I don’t think B is trying to hide the drinking at all. Is she not allowed to drink?

I’m thinking it is going to open a whole box of worms with her vlogging for herself and C&K.

It's not that she isn't allowed to. She just got out of jail for drug trafficking and getting caught in jail with meth in her system. I know it's none of my business. But (outing myself) as someone in recovery who takes it very seriously, seeing someone who just got out of jail drinking like that screams "trouble" to me.
Pain meds were my thing. But I didn't like NA meetings because they were full of relapsing meth addicts (in my area) so I got clean in AA. But in the NA meetings I went to, they strongly discouraged drinking. Alcohol is a drug, the same as pot. It's just a matter of legality. It's about escaping your problems with a mind altering substance. They hammer into your head that alcohol is a drug, and that if you're drinking, you're not in recovery.
And I wasn't talking about drinking and driving. Brittany shouldn't be drinking if she's taking her recovery seriously. But apparently, since she's living in the big lovely home with the boyfriend, except for cramping her style for a little bit, it didn't seem to mess up her life that much. And that's what I meant when I said addicts need consequences. You have to hit bottom before you can really get recovery. Doesn't look like she has.
Rant over.

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I figure prison time is pretty rock bottom. And she did have consequences, she spent years in prison. It's not like she got out of it and has been a free woman all these years. We also have no idea if she is in NA or any sort of program like that. I know they are successful programs and turn people's lives around, i'm not doubting that, but we honestly don't know where she is in her recovery. She's for sure not on meth anymore, bc we all know if Katie had one hint that she was she would not be letting her around her kids, and her probation officer wouldnt be too keen on that either. If she's in a recovery program then great for. I'm glad she is. But we don't know if thats the case. Assuming she's not taking her addition seriously and saying she needs to hit rock bottom is kinda mean spirited. You have no idea what her rock bottom is, or what anyone elses but your own is. I don't mean this hateful, i'm very proud of you for overcoming your demons the way that you have, that deserves a HUGE congratulations... but to say you don't think she's hit rock bottom and that she's not taking her past drug addiction seriously isn't helping her in anyway. I can't judge the girl on her recovery bc we know absolutely nothing about it other than she's now clean (of meth anyway or assumedly so since she's not been locked back up yet) and out of jail.

If she is drinking, she's not taking it seriously. Go to an NA meeting and ask them.
But we obviously really disagree, so I will leave it at that.

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[lmmomSD]

There are a million other things to judge her for, I think it’s funny some are so focused on her drinking.

Prison, drugs, selling drugs in prison, getting out and moving right in with Corey, acting like they have been together forever when we all know she was with someone else when she went to prison, so, so many other things. To focus on the drinking is a bit redic.

But the selling drugs came from her addiction. All of her problems came from addiction. So indulging in another addictive substance, especially this soon after getting out of jail, is very concerning.
PlaysinRain, if she is on probation for a drug related crime, a 12 step of some kind, with proof of attendance at meetings, is likely in her requirements.
I know I sound mean. But addiction is DEADLY. And having a nice house is no protection. Honestly, I have buried too many friends to worry about how I sound.


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