OKNoVlogToday: Part 10

[Lunalu12]

They're both idiots who have the mindset of a teenager. Yes, adoption is always an option but some people don't want to go through with it because mentally they couldn't handle it. Some people have babies facing severe disabilities.... If I was pregnant and learned my child would have severe disabilities to a certain extent, I would abort knowing I didn't birth a baby who would only experience pain. Adoption can be a bad thing too. My girlfriend's parents are both adopted so her family medical history is limited to her parents and 2 biological members on her Mom's side.... She's currently got back and leg issues that haven't been completely diagnosed and has no history to look back on to see if another family member could have had something similar. Maybe both of these girls need to experience what abortion and adoption are to get their heads out of their asses.

That's a really messed up thing to say


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wait why is it messed up? I dont see what she is saying that is messed up--choosing to abort a child that would be in pain or a vegetable and pass away isnt necessarily selfish; it's wanting to cause less pain. im not saying that i'd necessarily abort my child in that situation but I can see the alternate side. Some people might feel differently than you do..that doesnt make them messed up..and the original poster was right...kyra and keren dont know everything adoption and being in the system entails. there is so much neglect, violence, abuse, etc. and it translates soo negatively to the children's long term life..it's also not easy to get adopted or to adopt..there is alot to consider..

I think what she was saying was messed up, was that the person said Keren and Kyra basically deserve to experience abortion or adoption. Yeah they're incredibly insensitive about the topic and uneducated, but wishing something like abortion upon them and their child is kind of evil.

[twomommies]

That's a really messed up thing to say


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wait why is it messed up? I dont see what she is saying that is messed up--choosing to abort a child that would be in pain or a vegetable and pass away isnt necessarily selfish; it's wanting to cause less pain. im not saying that i'd necessarily abort my child in that situation but I can see the alternate side. Some people might feel differently than you do..that doesnt make them messed up..and the original poster was right...kyra and keren dont know everything adoption and being in the system entails. there is so much neglect, violence, abuse, etc. and it translates soo negatively to the children's long term life..it's also not easy to get adopted or to adopt..there is alot to consider..

I think what she was saying was messed up, was that the person said Keren and Kyra basically deserve to experience abortion or adoption. Yeah they're incredibly insensitive about the topic and uneducated, but wishing something like abortion upon them and their child is kind of evil.

No I did not say that. I was saying they need to be open to these things. Just because they didn't choose those options doesn't mean that they aren't good for someone else. Not every teen can keep their baby or has the Dad stay..... That's rare.

[skiingmama1]

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wait why is it messed up? I dont see what she is saying that is messed up--choosing to abort a child that would be in pain or a vegetable and pass away isnt necessarily selfish; it's wanting to cause less pain. im not saying that i'd necessarily abort my child in that situation but I can see the alternate side. Some people might feel differently than you do..that doesnt make them messed up..and the original poster was right...kyra and keren dont know everything adoption and being in the system entails. there is so much neglect, violence, abuse, etc. and it translates soo negatively to the children's long term life..it's also not easy to get adopted or to adopt..there is alot to consider..[/quote]
I think what she was saying was messed up, was that the person said Keren and Kyra basically deserve to experience abortion or adoption. Yeah they're incredibly insensitive about the topic and uneducated, but wishing something like abortion upon them and their child is kind of evil.[/quote]

I don't think the poster intended to say she wished Karen and Kyra would experience those gut wrenching and emotional events. She's simply trying to say that it is unfair and hurtful to judge when you yourself have never been put in that kind of situation. It's easy for moms with healthy kids to sometimes make a complicated topic like abortion simple because they could never see themselves doing it, which is totally understandable. However having a child with a rare disorder myself I can say that having gotten that diagnosis while pregnant changed my whole life. The reason we did not terminate was because my daughters disorder does not involve pain of any sort and my husband and I have the resources to care for a child who may have additional needs, many parents can't do this. I could never ever judge another mom for the choice she makes if she is faced with this type of situation because it is extremely sad and emotional. I think unless you have been there its fine to have a personal opinion on what YOU would do in that situation, but please refrain from telling others they are wrong or bad for their choices.

[missy-1010]

It's messed up to say they should experience abortion or adoption. That's the messed up part.
I personally agree with terminating pregnancies when the fetus won't have a good quality of life, but to say someone should experience that, that's awful.
(Sorry I didn't quote didn't want to create a huge tree)


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[twomommies]

It's messed up to say they should experience abortion or adoption. That's the messed up part.
I personally agree with terminating pregnancies when the fetus won't have a good quality of life, but to say someone should experience that, that's awful.
(Sorry I didn't quote didn't want to create a huge tree)


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Never said they should experience it. These 2 just don't have open minds to other people... One example is both of their comment sections because people make small suggestions.

[millercoop]

It's messed up to say they should experience abortion or adoption. That's the messed up part.
I personally agree with terminating pregnancies when the fetus won't have a good quality of life, but to say someone should experience that, that's awful.
(Sorry I didn't quote didn't want to create a huge tree)


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She didn't say she wants them to have an abortion or give a baby up for adoption. She said that to understand how those mothers feel, they need to go through the same thing. You do not have the place to judge a mother's decision about what she does with her child unless you are in her shoes. They both pretty much planned both of their children (Levi is debatable but they still never considered anything other than keeping him), so they do not understand what it is like for a mother that is contemplating abortion. That's all she was saying.


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[missy-1010]

that "controversial mom tag" video or whatever on Karen's channel was CRINGEWORTHY. The fact that the two of them are so uneducated and uninformed is disturbing to me. Kyra was initially pro-choice and as soon as she hears Karen's response switches her views (she is clearly not a very strong willed, opinionated woman but we already knew that). Also the two of them saying "there is adoption" is ridiculous. Yes, adoption is WONDERFUL (I have adopted family members so I am a huge proponent of it) but them making it sound like such a simple decision to make is so undermining to women in those situations. Having been a woman myself who was pregnant with a child who was facing severe developmental and physical delays I think it is extremely disrespectful for women who couldn't fathom those situations to knock abortion. Karen's " what if I was aborted" comment was so eye-roll worthy. Ew Ew Ew, and I'm sorry if this isn't the appropriate forum to bring this up but I just had to.

They're both idiots who have the mindset of a teenager. Yes, adoption is always an option but some people don't want to go through with it because mentally they couldn't handle it. Some people have babies facing severe disabilities.... If I was pregnant and learned my child would have severe disabilities to a certain extent, I would abort knowing I didn't birth a baby who would only experience pain. Adoption can be a bad thing too. My girlfriend's parents are both adopted so her family medical history is limited to her parents and 2 biological members on her Mom's side.... She's currently got back and leg issues that haven't been completely diagnosed and has no history to look back on to see if another family member could have had something similar. Maybe both of these girls need to experience what abortion and adoption are to get their heads out of their asses.

MAYBE BOTH THESE GIRLS NEED TO EXPERIENCE WHAT ABORTION AND ADOPTION ARE TO GET THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR ASSES.

Hmm..... interesting, read the comment again.
I personally am pro life, and have nothing against people placing children for adoption, it's not something I judge either way, nor do I judge people who are pro life or don't believe in adoption... but anyway. The way you said it was messed up and not worded properly. Not sure why I'm being attacked here.


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[Newmomma]

Anybody on twitter? Bug buddies are "recreating" the ICONIC "me too" Kids do anything to be noticed!

[xoxoal3xandra]

is it just me or is kyra's most recent post on instagram the ugliest picture of a baby ever? alaya is reasonably cute but that picture is just awful, she looks like a blobfish.

omg, i just died. alaya is so precious but that is not a flattering picture AT ALL


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[twomommies]

that "controversial mom tag" video or whatever on Karen's channel was CRINGEWORTHY. The fact that the two of them are so uneducated and uninformed is disturbing to me. Kyra was initially pro-choice and as soon as she hears Karen's response switches her views (she is clearly not a very strong willed, opinionated woman but we already knew that). Also the two of them saying "there is adoption" is ridiculous. Yes, adoption is WONDERFUL (I have adopted family members so I am a huge proponent of it) but them making it sound like such a simple decision to make is so undermining to women in those situations. Having been a woman myself who was pregnant with a child who was facing severe developmental and physical delays I think it is extremely disrespectful for women who couldn't fathom those situations to knock abortion. Karen's " what if I was aborted" comment was so eye-roll worthy. Ew Ew Ew, and I'm sorry if this isn't the appropriate forum to bring this up but I just had to.

They're both idiots who have the mindset of a teenager. Yes, adoption is always an option but some people don't want to go through with it because mentally they couldn't handle it. Some people have babies facing severe disabilities.... If I was pregnant and learned my child would have severe disabilities to a certain extent, I would abort knowing I didn't birth a baby who would only experience pain. Adoption can be a bad thing too. My girlfriend's parents are both adopted so her family medical history is limited to her parents and 2 biological members on her Mom's side.... She's currently got back and leg issues that haven't been completely diagnosed and has no history to look back on to see if another family member could have had something similar. Maybe both of these girls need to experience what abortion and adoption are to get their heads out of their asses.

MAYBE BOTH THESE GIRLS NEED TO EXPERIENCE WHAT ABORTION AND ADOPTION ARE TO GET THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR ASSES.

Hmm..... interesting, read the comment again.
I personally am pro life, and have nothing against people placing children for adoption, it's not something I judge either way, nor do I judge people who are pro life or don't believe in adoption... but anyway. The way you said it was messed up and not worded properly. Not sure why I'm being attacked here.


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Oh my God just drop it. They're both judgemental assholes.

[Amanda-L]

So they didn't brush Levi's teeth at all whilst they were in Florida? I'm sorry, but that's vile. I wouldn't even dare admit to being that negligent with my child's hygiene, but she broadcasts it to everyone like it's no big deal. It's shameful. Kyra, you can skip showering as much as you like, but please don't pass your filthy habits onto your children.

I just don't understand why she couldn't have bought him a spare one during one of their shopping trips? Not only is is incredibly bad for his teeth, but can you imagine how uncomfortable it would be for someone to interact with a toddler that had 2 week old death breath? Poor kid. It's not his fault his parents are simpletons. Also, when they do get around to brushing them they let him do it? Do they never take the toothbrush away and finish it for him? My daughter has always been little miss independent, as soon as she cut her first tooth and I started brushing them she wanted to do it herself. Of course I let her, but I also took it away after so long to clean them properly. She's coming up 3 and I still do it now to give them a once over. Do they really expect a toddler to be able to fully clean his teeth, especially when they had 2 weeks worth of build up?

[mydietsucks_1]

I didnt want to create a huge tree quote. If you dont read the specific words that Two Mommies used you get the general idea. They have never experienced being in a position where abortion would have to be considered and it seems they have no family or friends that have either. If anyone they knew had to make a difficult decision perhaps they would be less judgmental assholes and have a little perspective.

And if thats not what you meant, sorry for putting words in your mouth lol

[rbyrolg]

After Levi's injury and Keren revealing she spanks Jackson I'm 100 percent done. I do have a soft spot for Kyra but she won't intervene when Oscar is being a chucklefuck and I'm over it. I thought them being around each other might help with that but it's only made it worse- two active toddlers running around a pool that's not fenced because... why? like they can't afford it? Keren and Khoa make thousands of dollars a month a and they own their own house. Get a fucking fence! Oscar not giving a fuck about Levi to the point that he laughs at his own injured child. That business with Khoa's mother in law that implies that whole family is dysfunctional.
Oh, and because they read this forum obviously: don't tell women to breastfeed or not to breastfeed, it's none of your business. Also, Oscar is a chucklefuck.

What business with the mother in law? I'm confused. I watch the vlogs distractingly.


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Keren and Khoa's mother are no longer on speaking terms. She goes into it at about 24 mins of her "Draw my life" video on her channel. Basically what I gathered from it is Keren is a disrespectful bitch to Khoa's mom. Apparently one morning Khoa was parked behind his mom who needed to leave at like 6 a.m, and she went knocking on Keren's door since Keren was living under her roof at the time. Well instead of Keren saying "Khoa's not here, I don't have his keys but I can call him for you." she sat in silence and texted Khoa to tell his mom to stop banging on the door. Well then Khoa and his mom got in a fight at the restaurant over it and Keren intervened as she was working there at the time. Khoa's mom didn't like that so she fired her and kicked them out. Now Jackson isn't allowed to see his grandma. How can you be so rude when someone lets you live with them and writes your checks?

Um, Jackson sees his grandma ALL THE TIME. It's just that Keren doesn't take him to grandma's house but Khoa does. Heck, Khoas mom went to their house and cooked for them for Khoa's birthday. What happened was (said in the now private "Dear Mother in law video") that Khoa's mom said to Keren when she kicked them out that she didn't consider Jackson her grandson, and then she didn't even show any interest in seeing him whatsoeeythe first few months. Things have mellowed out now but they definitely still don't get along. I'm all for the gossip but guys come on let's not lie

[ayeyae]

After Levi's injury and Keren revealing she spanks Jackson I'm 100 percent done. I do have a soft spot for Kyra but she won't intervene when Oscar is being a chucklefuck and I'm over it. I thought them being around each other might help with that but it's only made it worse- two active toddlers running around a pool that's not fenced because... why? like they can't afford it? Keren and Khoa make thousands of dollars a month a and they own their own house. Get a fucking fence! Oscar not giving a fuck about Levi to the point that he laughs at his own injured child. That business with Khoa's mother in law that implies that whole family is dysfunctional.
Oh, and because they read this forum obviously: don't tell women to breastfeed or not to breastfeed, it's none of your business. Also, Oscar is a chucklefuck.

What business with the mother in law? I'm confused. I watch the vlogs distractingly.


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Keren and Khoa's mother are no longer on speaking terms. She goes into it at about 24 mins of her "Draw my life" video on her channel. Basically what I gathered from it is Keren is a disrespectful bitch to Khoa's mom. Apparently one morning Khoa was parked behind his mom who needed to leave at like 6 a.m, and she went knocking on Keren's door since Keren was living under her roof at the time. Well instead of Keren saying "Khoa's not here, I don't have his keys but I can call him for you." she sat in silence and texted Khoa to tell his mom to stop banging on the door. Well then Khoa and his mom got in a fight at the restaurant over it and Keren intervened as she was working there at the time. Khoa's mom didn't like that so she fired her and kicked them out. Now Jackson isn't allowed to see his grandma. How can you be so rude when someone lets you live with them and writes your checks?

Thanks for the explanation! I don't follow them (they're so boring) unless OK are around. To be honest, I know far too much about crazy mothers in law so I'm biased and tempted to think there was more to that situation lol


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[bulboustrollxx]

I showed my boyfriend (who gets paid to make nationally broadcasted hype videos for university's sports teams) a few of OK's vlogs today. He couldn't figure out how any of them would take a competent person more than 45 minutes to edit as long as they organize their files... Oscar doesn't even have a job like Khoa who generally uploads on time!

[onamonapia]

Aww they picked up on the "let them watch TV while eating" thing with Levi

[Jennai]

After Levi's injury and Keren revealing she spanks Jackson I'm 100 percent done. I do have a soft spot for Kyra but she won't intervene when Oscar is being a chucklefuck and I'm over it. I thought them being around each other might help with that but it's only made it worse- two active toddlers running around a pool that's not fenced because... why? like they can't afford it? Keren and Khoa make thousands of dollars a month a and they own their own house. Get a fucking fence! Oscar not giving a fuck about Levi to the point that he laughs at his own injured child. That business with Khoa's mother in law that implies that whole family is dysfunctional.
Oh, and because they read this forum obviously: don't tell women to breastfeed or not to breastfeed, it's none of your business. Also, Oscar is a chucklefuck.

What business with the mother in law? I'm confused. I watch the vlogs distractingly.


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Keren and Khoa's mother are no longer on speaking terms. She goes into it at about 24 mins of her "Draw my life" video on her channel. Basically what I gathered from it is Keren is a disrespectful bitch to Khoa's mom. Apparently one morning Khoa was parked behind his mom who needed to leave at like 6 a.m, and she went knocking on Keren's door since Keren was living under her roof at the time. Well instead of Keren saying "Khoa's not here, I don't have his keys but I can call him for you." she sat in silence and texted Khoa to tell his mom to stop banging on the door. Well then Khoa and his mom got in a fight at the restaurant over it and Keren intervened as she was working there at the time. Khoa's mom didn't like that so she fired her and kicked them out. Now Jackson isn't allowed to see his grandma. How can you be so rude when someone lets you live with them and writes your checks?

Half the stuffs you said are not true at all LOL. Keren and Khoa's mother ARE ON SPEAKING TERMS. Keren and Khoa met up with Khoa's mom for many different occasions, and she's even visited to their home and cooked food for them. They talked and interacted with each other in their past vlogs. Can we at least please fact check before saying anything

[alienrasta]

today was only oscar's 2nd time alone with alaya??? and she's, what, like more than a month old?? wtf

and that doctors appointment looked so stressful all b/c of the damn camera. like, okay if you wanna film it, set the camera up somewhere and leave it alone. setting up it again and again looks so awkward, and so does holding your 9 lb newborn while holding a 9 lb camera. also, why did he leave without milk??? does kyra not pump?

[MommaLindsey2]

today was only oscar's 2nd time alone with alaya??? and she's, what, like more than a month old?? wtf

and that doctors appointment looked so stressful all b/c of the damn camera. like, okay if you wanna film it, set the camera up somewhere and leave it alone. setting up it again and again looks so awkward, and so does holding your 9 lb newborn while holding a 9 lb camera. also, why did he leave without milk??? does kyra not pump?

My husband wasn't left alone with my babies until 8 weeks when I started pumping. It is very important to not pump too early because it can create an oversupply of milk. The first 2-3 months are important for nursing on demand to establish a good supply. Normally nursing mothers don't leave their babies alone with anyone the first month of life. It's annoying that Kyra would leave without pumping, what if something happened to her and she couldn't get back in time to feed?


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[twisteddismay]

Aww they picked up on the "let them watch TV while eating" thing with Levi

of course they did, it's easier. why parent when you can let the tv do it for you?


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