OKWeDontDeserveAMillion. Part #14

[puzzledbyit28]

Kyra is really growing on me lately. Just watched the OCD vlog and have a few thoughts:
1) I'm confused why when they explained why they stopped because its too expensive oscar was totalling up for the year --- i thought it was just a 4-6 weeks of going a ton/course?
2) Oscar is such a dick for sleeping all day - like if Kyra is that affected (like in the hailstorm vlog) how do they know she will be okay to drive after exposure therapy. If that was my SO and i didn't have work and i would damn well be driving them to appointments --- if they have a sitter can he not edit in a coffee shop while she had the appointment?
3) Is anyone else wondering if he is sleeping all the time because of his new diet/exercise? I'm betting he isn't getting sufficient calories and thats why he is sleeping a ton, couple that with feeling tired from shocking his body with such high levels of exercise (like he didn't seem to build up at all, just went straight into crazy trialathon training..)

As someone with severe anxiety/OCD, you don't need someone to drive you to and from exposure therapy. When you do this type of therapy, it's in a controlled setting and your therapist only exposes you to your trigger as much as you can handle in an outpatient setting. They always make sure you're ok before you go home. If you're having a panic attack and your appointment time has passed, they'll help you through it until you're able to take care of yourself again. It's also better for you to do this type of therapy on your own. If you lean on someone else for this, it's easy to convince yourself that you are only able to get through it because you have a significant other/family member there. You need to go on your own in order to gain confidence in yourself.

Panic attacks also can't last more than a short amount of time. You can have a bunch of panic attacks consecutively, but you won't be acting the way Kyra was in that hailstorm video for hours on end. They might look scary, but panic attacks are actually relatively harmless physically. Once the panic passes, your body goes back to normal (although you might feel more anxious than normal or a bit tired).

There are also different types of treatment for anxiety and OCD. Some therapists do a 6-12 week course of exposure therapy (CBT), but as another form of treatment, you might also see a therapist for talk therapy for weekly sessions with no set time to it. From what Kyra said, it sounds like she's doing an intensive CBT program at the moment, so there's a set amount of time for the heavy duty course. It didn't sound to me like they stopped therapy because it was too expensive. It seemed more like Kyra is just trying this new type of therapy (which I think is great. CBT is highly effective and should really help her.)

[ytmamaviewer24]

Maybe that's the real reason Kyla moved in with them... she's a live in nanny/babysitter. Doesn't make sense for Oscar to just sleep all day and do whatever he wants when he could be taking care of his kids.

No, they have another babysitter


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Does anyone know if Katelyn (I think that's her name) is still babysitting for them, or have they actually hired like a "professional" sitter that isn't a friend?


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I just finished watching her YouNow, and it seems she's not their babysitter anymore because she's busy with school. OK hired a new one from care.com and apparently she's the "best babysitter ever" and has been teaching Levi a lot

[thenightowl]

I feel like Oscar has always had a horrible sleep schedule, remember when they would let Levi take a nap at like 7pm? This was before the new baby, I think with 2 Kyra stepped up.
They don't even vlog every day so I don't get what Oscar's excuse is, he could set an alarm and stand to lose a few hours of sleep for a few nights until his schedule is more normal!

[BusyBee101]

In today's vlog did kyra leave the babies outside while she went inside to talk to oscar ??


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[Dusty_Sidebar]

Kyra is really growing on me lately. Just watched the OCD vlog and have a few thoughts:
1) I'm confused why when they explained why they stopped because its too expensive oscar was totalling up for the year --- i thought it was just a 4-6 weeks of going a ton/course?
2) Oscar is such a dick for sleeping all day - like if Kyra is that affected (like in the hailstorm vlog) how do they know she will be okay to drive after exposure therapy. If that was my SO and i didn't have work and i would damn well be driving them to appointments --- if they have a sitter can he not edit in a coffee shop while she had the appointment?
3) Is anyone else wondering if he is sleeping all the time because of his new diet/exercise? I'm betting he isn't getting sufficient calories and thats why he is sleeping a ton, couple that with feeling tired from shocking his body with such high levels of exercise (like he didn't seem to build up at all, just went straight into crazy trialathon training..)

As someone with severe anxiety/OCD, you don't need someone to drive you to and from exposure therapy. When you do this type of therapy, it's in a controlled setting and your therapist only exposes you to your trigger as much as you can handle in an outpatient setting. They always make sure you're ok before you go home. If you're having a panic attack and your appointment time has passed, they'll help you through it until you're able to take care of yourself again. It's also better for you to do this type of therapy on your own. If you lean on someone else for this, it's easy to convince yourself that you are only able to get through it because you have a significant other/family member there. You need to go on your own in order to gain confidence in yourself.

Panic attacks also can't last more than a short amount of time. You can have a bunch of panic attacks consecutively, but you won't be acting the way Kyra was in that hailstorm video for hours on end. They might look scary, but panic attacks are actually relatively harmless physically. Once the panic passes, your body goes back to normal (although you might feel more anxious than normal or a bit tired).

There are also different types of treatment for anxiety and OCD. Some therapists do a 6-12 week course of exposure therapy (CBT), but as another form of treatment, you might also see a therapist for talk therapy for weekly sessions with no set time to it. From what Kyra said, it sounds like she's doing an intensive CBT program at the moment, so there's a set amount of time for the heavy duty course. It didn't sound to me like they stopped therapy because it was too expensive. It seemed more like Kyra is just trying this new type of therapy (which I think is great. CBT is highly effective and should really help her.)

btw i wasn't suggesting oscar went to the therapy with her, just drive her. But thanks for info, was interesting to know a bit more about it.
I got the impression from the end of their 'diagnosed with OCD' vlog at 16:30 that she had stopped because it was too expensive without insurance, but maybe she is talking about stopping weekly therapy after her course..

[soul_in_a_earthsuit]

In today's vlog did kyra leave the babies outside while she went inside to talk to oscar ??


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she always does that. She has wayy too much faith in levi with alaya

[prbeca]

Does it seem strange to anyone else that this was Oscars first time putting always to bed?

[puzzledbyit28]

Kyra is really growing on me lately. Just watched the OCD vlog and have a few thoughts:
1) I'm confused why when they explained why they stopped because its too expensive oscar was totalling up for the year --- i thought it was just a 4-6 weeks of going a ton/course?
2) Oscar is such a dick for sleeping all day - like if Kyra is that affected (like in the hailstorm vlog) how do they know she will be okay to drive after exposure therapy. If that was my SO and i didn't have work and i would damn well be driving them to appointments --- if they have a sitter can he not edit in a coffee shop while she had the appointment?
3) Is anyone else wondering if he is sleeping all the time because of his new diet/exercise? I'm betting he isn't getting sufficient calories and thats why he is sleeping a ton, couple that with feeling tired from shocking his body with such high levels of exercise (like he didn't seem to build up at all, just went straight into crazy trialathon training..)

As someone with severe anxiety/OCD, you don't need someone to drive you to and from exposure therapy. When you do this type of therapy, it's in a controlled setting and your therapist only exposes you to your trigger as much as you can handle in an outpatient setting. They always make sure you're ok before you go home. If you're having a panic attack and your appointment time has passed, they'll help you through it until you're able to take care of yourself again. It's also better for you to do this type of therapy on your own. If you lean on someone else for this, it's easy to convince yourself that you are only able to get through it because you have a significant other/family member there. You need to go on your own in order to gain confidence in yourself.

Panic attacks also can't last more than a short amount of time. You can have a bunch of panic attacks consecutively, but you won't be acting the way Kyra was in that hailstorm video for hours on end. They might look scary, but panic attacks are actually relatively harmless physically. Once the panic passes, your body goes back to normal (although you might feel more anxious than normal or a bit tired).

There are also different types of treatment for anxiety and OCD. Some therapists do a 6-12 week course of exposure therapy (CBT), but as another form of treatment, you might also see a therapist for talk therapy for weekly sessions with no set time to it. From what Kyra said, it sounds like she's doing an intensive CBT program at the moment, so there's a set amount of time for the heavy duty course. It didn't sound to me like they stopped therapy because it was too expensive. It seemed more like Kyra is just trying this new type of therapy (which I think is great. CBT is highly effective and should really help her.)

btw i wasn't suggesting oscar went to the therapy with her, just drive her. But thanks for info, was interesting to know a bit more about it.
I got the impression from the end of their 'diagnosed with OCD' vlog at 16:30 that she had stopped because it was too expensive without insurance, but maybe she is talking about stopping weekly therapy after her course..

Honestly, mental health care is really hard for anyone to afford. I have a full-time job with health insurance, but most plans don't cover the majority of mental health care services, so you end up having to pay hundreds of dollars per appointment. I had to switch therapists and switch styles of therapy because it was $500/week just for appointments (so $2000/month, which is more than my monthly for my apartment). That's without factoring in medication. And as Kyra said, not all therapists do the type of therapy she's trying, so it can be hard to find someone covered under health insurance who does the type of therapy a person may need. I'm not sure what their health insurance situation is, but even if they do have it, Kyra's treatment likely isn't covered.

The one thing I would say lifestyle-wise is that Kyra would benefit greatly from structured days, and O&K seem to have absolutely no structure in their lives. Lack of structure makes anxiety 10 times worse.

Oscar could definitely step up by not sleeping all day. There are a billion families on YouTube and he's the only dad I know of who doesn't go to bed until 3 a.m. There's no way he's up editing until 3 in the morning. I'm curious as to what time the kids get up in the morning. If Kyra is staying up even til midnight, then getting up with the kids at 7 a.m. and taking care of them by herself until 4 in the afternoon, that's a lot of stress to put on someone who is going through exposure therapy. Plus, if the kids go to bed around 7 at night (just saying based on what a normal bed time for a toddler is), then he only gets 3-4 hours with his kids each day even though he's a stay-at-home dad. You'd think he'd want to spend more time with them.

[Rosiex3]

Idk if anyone has mention this yet, but I cannot stand that Levi sits on the counter and eats his food practically off the table i.e Kyra's recent snap. It bugs me to no end. Are they that lazy to sit him on a chair and teach him to use a fork and a spoon? He'll be two soon. Ugh


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[Ilovecats]

Katelyn is a nanny for another family. Their new baby sitter is 25.

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[Ilovecats]

Does it seem strange to anyone else that this was Oscars first time putting always to bed?

No. My son is 1 1/2. His dad has never put him to bed

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[Ilovecats]

Idk if anyone has mention this yet, but I cannot stand that Levi sits on the counter and eats his food practically off the table i.e Kyra's recent snap. It bugs me to no end. Are they that lazy to sit him on a chair and teach him to use a fork and a spoon? He'll be two soon. Ugh


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He can use a fork and spoon. They show it in a lot of their vlogs. Plus he was eating toast... Do you eat toast with a fork?

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[Rosiex3]

Idk if anyone has mention this yet, but I cannot stand that Levi sits on the counter and eats his food practically off the table i.e Kyra's recent snap. It bugs me to no end. Are they that lazy to sit him on a chair and teach him to use a fork and a spoon? He'll be two soon. Ugh


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He can use a fork and spoon. They show it in a lot of their vlogs. Plus he was eating toast... Do you eat toast with a fork?

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Sorry I didn't explain it well enough, obviously not with a fork with a toast but sitting on the counter eating off it. That's gross.


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[Lyanna]

Does it seem strange to anyone else that this was Oscars first time putting always to bed?

No. My son is 1 1/2. His dad has never put him to bed

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His dad probably isn't a stay at home dad like Oscar, right?

[workinprogress]

Idk if anyone has mention this yet, but I cannot stand that Levi sits on the counter and eats his food practically off the table i.e Kyra's recent snap. It bugs me to no end. Are they that lazy to sit him on a chair and teach him to use a fork and a spoon? He'll be two soon. Ugh


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He can use a fork and spoon. They show it in a lot of their vlogs. Plus he was eating toast... Do you eat toast with a fork?

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Sorry I didn't explain it well enough, obviously not with a fork with a toast but sitting on the counter eating off it. That's gross.


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I'm pretty unbothered by them letting Levi eat off of the counter to be honest. He's not going to be 18 and still sitting up there to eat his dinner, so I don't find that the "manners" aspect is really relevant. They have him in the chair at the island to eat most of his meals, so as long as Kyra cleans the counters in a safe & functional manner it's not going to hurt him...unless they're dumb and let him up there unattended (that's a different story)


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[d4865]

To be fair a family friend of mine (both a stay at mum and dad) as he works at home but he never puts the kids to bed until they are a year old due to it being routine that Mum does it and knows how to do it!!

[nebula]

I'm really shocked by the amount of money therapists charge in America.
I'm just stating a fact here,
in Greece we have psychologists and psychiatrics.
Therapists ( psychologists) charge around 70 euros per session. Group counselling is almost everywhere free. Not to mention that that's the exact amount that a psychiatrist charges (70 to 80), some of them just give a prescription based on the diagnosis and they suggest a psychologist for farther treatment or sometimes they do psychotherapy themselves.
Of course hospitals do the same work with their patients it's just a long waiting process depending on your insurance.
I don't know what's happening in other European countries but omg America is too expensive!!
Ok that's enough information I know....

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[fingusername]

Does it seem strange to anyone else that this was Oscars first time putting always to bed?

No. My son is 1 1/2. His dad has never put him to bed

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His dad probably isn't a stay at home dad like Oscar, right?

She said herself that she nursed the baby then put her to bed. It doesn't seem like he avoided it.

[fingusername]

I'm really shocked by the amount of money therapists charge in America.
I'm just stating a fact here,
in Greece we have psychologists and psychiatrics.
Therapists ( psychologists) charge around 70 euros per session. Group counselling is almost everywhere free. Not to mention that that's the exact amount that a psychiatrist charges (70 to 80), some of them just give a prescription based on the diagnosis and they suggest a psychologist for farther treatment or sometimes they do psychotherapy themselves.
Of course hospitals do the same work with their patients it's just a long waiting process depending on your insurance.
I don't know what's happening in other European countries but omg America is too expensive!!
Ok that's enough information I know....

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In canada its $180/hr

[momo_3849]

Long time lurker first time poster blah blah.. just watched the "Sex life after two kids" video and noticed how Kyra said she really wasn't proud of what they did regarding how they met... did Oscar cheat on Balou or am I missing something??


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