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BellaCat wrote:Esme for once doesn't look unfortunate in that bench pic. Probably partly from the filter and we can't see teeth. I can't stand tutu dresses like that. At least she put a shirt on under them. I cringe when I see people put them on their girls with no shirts on. The top part is mesh and see through. Indie should have been in pink since it's her color. I know she would have put her in it if it weren't for us. Everyone here favors indie. She couldn't dress any of the other girls as the witch because of what we say about them. We would all laugh. I think they tend to favor heifer because we overall don't like her. They try to make up for what we say.
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I don't favor Indie, but I think almost all the KADS seem to favor her. Since they are so concerned (haha) about what the girls will read in the future, I don't understand why it doesn't bother them that so many KADS make comments on their pages about how much they love her and how cute she is. I would ask that "fans" stop expressing preferences on their pages if they were my children.
Always for the underdog, I'm partial to poor Esme, and I've always had a soft spot for Scarlett since the days when she was the one who could communicate least.
I think it's so appropriate Evie was the lion, she could roar or growl her way through the night.
I didn't like any of their costumes. Kids their age should have some individual preferences. Do they even know the Wizard of Oz story? Aren't the kid's a little too young Do rd the scary parts? (Houses dropping, monkeys attacking). I would bet the girls would have loved to have been Moana, Mickey Mouse characters, or just princesses.....
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I thought Esme would be a better choice for the lion since she is afraid of everything. Ever should be the scarecrow.
You are absolutely right! The one without courage should definitely have traded places with the one without a heart!!!
AthenaA wrote:I fast forwarded to watch the Q & A with the girls. I am really sad and really angry. So sad for those girls-holy crap I cannot believe how bad Evie's speech is. Scarlett surprised me but she is still very behind. But I am so angry that Assley and Byson are so ignorant that they really think that is something to show off, and I am angry at the stupid KADs for enabling it.
What I cannot understand is they are both from reasonably large families and have some friends with kids. How do they not see how behind they are? Do they just ignore other kids? Do they put everything down to them being quads? As a parent, in particularly a first time parent, don't most people want to know what other kids are doing to check their kids are ok? They're just so self centred.
I don't get it either. There's another vlogger kid-- Ollie, from Daily Bumps, and he's got a speech delay too. If you mention it, you get blocked. When my kids were little, I kept track of milestones. That is how I knew my daughter needed speech therapy at 18 months. Especially when you went through a lot to have those children, wouldn't you want to make sure everything was ok, and that they are getting any help they need? I just don't understand.
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Never heard of them. so does he get therapy then? Or do they ignore it like gqs?
lovethispage wrote:Exactly why on earth would she do a q&a when they are so delayed? They/she must be convinced that this is due to their prematurity. There has to be something wrong with them (FF). This can’t just be their lack of working with them/continued baby talk/non stimulating environment can it?
When my boy was 2, he was only saying two words. Hi and uh oh. We finally got our ped to refer us to speech therapy. Now we see a diff ped, I'm so sad, I wish we would have started speech at 18 months. He quickly went to 200 words by 2.5 years old with just 4 hours of speech therapy a month.
Now he's three and still behind but not a lot. So We put him in preschool twice a week and it's crazy how far he's come since August! It's terrible what gsq is doing yo those girls! Instead of napping for 4 hours, send them to preschool and they can still"work".
When I was a kid I had that exact same costume. As did most of my girlfriends that same year. Except we calle it a baby costume. There's no was those kids told people they were the FF. Someone's KAD mom just wanted their 15 minutes of fame from the Greedners.
Tyler was perfect for the scarecrow. But Trashley is the one without a brain. If they had traded costumes, they prob would have a hell of a lot more views. Tyson as Dorothy would be priceless.
I broke down and watched the vlog.
So much overstimulation and noise and crowds for poor Esme and Indie!
The speech delays are so sad! Much more noticeable as they get older.
Don't you normally feed kids before you go trick or treating rather than after?
The kids were so tired and worn out by the end of the night.
When indie bit Esme, it was Indie the babysitter reached for. I think she said something like "share". I guess she meant share the seat.
So everyone was cleaned up by the end except ASSwit. Is TyASS gonna have sweet dreams with a 15 year old Dorothy tonight?
Who gives cotton candy out as I Halloween treat. I've never seen that before. Messy and sticky kids and clothes. Maybe it was supposed to be a trick on all the obnoxious parents.....
Boy get caught up for a couple of days and I'm waaaaay behind. Everyone has said pretty much what I was thinking. How very sad the whole situation is. That she had all those outfits specially made is indicative of the fact that she thinks she is special. I lost count of the amount of people who they had to help them during the night but it was still too much. I've said this before and I think it really is true. I think they love the girls in their own way, but I don't think they actually like them. And that's their own fault. They don't actually look on them as individual children but as a quads. They don't understand them at all and I don't just mean verbally. And they are content to have it that way for whatever reason. I agree with the 13 year old concept, and the need A$$ley has for attention and compliments. I predict some very very hard times ahead for these two. And, sadly, for the girls who don't even know that their needs are not being met.
Building them up all day, filling them with sugar, keeping them up past their bedtime, over stimulated situation and they wonder why they were upset and anxious. They have no concept or understanding of the girls' actual needs and requirements. And that is very very sad.
I watched the Hoffmans. quints + 2 children, all very polite who said thank you and all well behaved. There is no excuse.
Stupid silicone rings they’re pushing. TyASSon says he looses his wedding ring all the time anyway as he doesn’t like jewelry so he can just wear it as a (site won’t let me type word) rhymes with “rock” starts with a “c” rock ring. I’m sure it will fit
lovethispage wrote:Exactly why on earth would she do a q&a when they are so delayed? They/she must be convinced that this is due to their prematurity. There has to be something wrong with them (FF). This can’t just be their lack of working with them/continued baby talk/non stimulating environment can it?
I do think environment plays a huge part. When she was asking them she never corrected what they said wrong. That's teaching kids speech 101, if they say something wrong, then you say yes and repeat it back to them correctly. I was going to use 'guckys' as an example but then realised they have taught them the wrong word. I rest my case. On top of that they don't build speech with them. It's all good job and you are so beautiful blah blah blah. They aren't exposed to much language.
The fact that they all seemed to do better on the short trip to Hawaii I think shows how much they need some more attention.
But I suspect that there's is other stuff going on as well. I don't think any of them are autistic (I am no expert) but kids with sensory processing disorder can also have difficulty with speech. Some of the speech problems can be explained by the use of pacifiers and bottles. I suspect that their muscles are very weak around their mouth and that is part of the problem. But I would be willing to bet that at least two of the girls would have some kind of diagnosis if assessed properly.
Sneaky_snarky wrote:Omg yes!!! I saw indie going in for bites like a damn carnivore. And from what I could tell, Esme wasn’t even doing anything but sitting there. Will have to look for bite marks tomorrow.
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On her personal page post of Indies Halloween picture, one of her friends asked why Indie was chosen to be the witch when she’s the sweet one. Ass replied that she hasn’t been the sweet one lately. Ha ha. (She wrote the ha ha, not me).
First I think both Indie and Esme have taken a drastic change for the worse. They used to be articulate and well spoken and daring. I think Esme especially has some serious sensory issues, but those two were by far my favorite to watch. I think they have regressed BIG time. Their language etc. They used to be way ahead of the chunkies.
I think the biting and bad behavior is a result of not being able to express themselves or express their frustration or ask for what they need or stand up for themselves. Probably another way to get attention from mom and dad. Bad attention is better than no attention. Although if biting doesn’t work, mom, to get attention be prepared it will get worse until you meet their needs. And if they continue to let Evie just take things, this will escalate!
Also, yeah, I don’t think it’s funny that Indie misbehaves. Putting a “ha ha” indicates it’s funny, idiot, that you have a child biting and misbehaving.
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I absolutely agree that the biting is from frustration. I had a lot more sympathy for Evie after watching the Q & A because even her comprehension seems so poor and some her behaviour must be attributed to her frustration. Those girls are watching each other and she must know on some level that she isn't understanding stuff her sisters do. If there is something wrong that could be diagnosed and dealt with then that gap is going to get wider and it is going to be more obvious.
Three year olds are challenging little creatures. FOUR THREE YEAR OLDS with little speech, stimulation or discipline is going to be a shit show.
Sneaky_snarky wrote:Omg yes!!! I saw indie going in for bites like a damn carnivore. And from what I could tell, Esme wasn’t even doing anything but sitting there. Will have to look for bite marks tomorrow.
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On her personal page post of Indies Halloween picture, one of her friends asked why Indie was chosen to be the witch when she’s the sweet one. Ass replied that she hasn’t been the sweet one lately. Ha ha. (She wrote the ha ha, not me).
First I think both Indie and Esme have taken a drastic change for the worse. They used to be articulate and well spoken and daring. I think Esme especially has some serious sensory issues, but those two were by far my favorite to watch. I think they have regressed BIG time. Their language etc. They used to be way ahead of the chunkies.
I think the biting and bad behavior is a result of not being able to express themselves or express their frustration or ask for what they need or stand up for themselves. Probably another way to get attention from mom and dad. Bad attention is better than no attention. Although if biting doesn’t work, mom, to get attention be prepared it will get worse until you meet their needs. And if they continue to let Evie just take things, this will escalate!
Also, yeah, I don’t think it’s funny that Indie misbehaves. Putting a “ha ha” indicates it’s funny, idiot, that you have a child biting and misbehaving.
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I noticed Indie and Esme pushing each other for space, that part was ridiculous. Scarlett is hysterical because she was clearly tired but mom and dad needed some more footage from their child actors, so they were all forced to sit in a row and parrot. Why not put the camera down and go draw the bath for them? Let everyone go unwind in their play area while you get the make up off? These girls are pushing and biting because they never have their own space and nothing belongs to them. I'm sure they love their cages. They can play on their own without anyone bothering them.
BumblebeeBubbles wrote:
I do think things like “flower” and feeling like she is mental is a result of her not developing past age 13. If I can imagine her as a 13 year old with dolls and showing off her house . . . she makes so much more sense. Now she’s 30 and has four under-developed children in her care, but I think developmentally she’s at about 13. It seems to me that meeting TyAss or the way he treated her (wanting her to stay young. Yuck!!!) seems to have made her stuck at pre-pubescent mentality. She is, in so many way, age 13. And that’s being generous.
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By age 13, in the USA, most females are well into puberty. And most 13 year olds don't play with dolls, by that age play is more like arts and crafts.
And too much is made of her spelling skills (or rather lack of). Spelling is a poor indicator of intelligence.
Snarky Lady wrote:Where is the Q&A about delays? I saw the one about the silicone rings
It's not really a q and a about delays, more a q and a that points out delays... The last several minutes of yesterday's trick or treat vlog was Ashley attempting to ask the girls questions about what they had done and seen while trick or treating. I think she was trying to show how advanced she thinks they are. But it just made it even more obvious how delayed they are. I had no idea it would be possible to make that more obvious, but somehow she found a way.
Night lady wrote:And they are live on FB right now. Oh joy!
You all know how hard it is NOT to comment on the live feed? Yup, you do.
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FFS, they are pimping another product, silicone rings ...MADE FOR ADVENTURERS!!!!
The beached whale needs one for safety reasons; hiking, basketball, ... laying on the sofa, making potpourri, seasonal decorating, donit pickups. He's such a "stud".
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