True, it definitely validates all the speculation about it being Corbin’s fault the friendship ended. I really want to know what exactly happened, how it all went down but at this point I don’t think they’ll ever say.PirateWench8 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:11 pmI don't think Bryan and Missy have a problem with Kelsey at all just with the controlling Douche she's married too. It's a shame really, because I think that Missy and Kelsey truly cared about and loved one another. Just how Corbin was treating her Dad in June's birthday vlog sent off alarm bells for me. I think he alienates Kelsey's family and friends so that he can have complete control over her and June.avabrooke1226 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:56 pm Bryan and Missy both liked Kelsey’s IG pic about June becoming a big sister but neither of them liked Corbin’s
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Then why does she have such a large baby bump/belly? And she's been trying to hide her stomach for several weeks. I know a second pregnancy will show faster, but she's looking pretty BIG in the trampoline video. Her pants barely seem to fit.HashtagBlessed wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:21 pmPersonally, my guess is they only found out a couple weeks ago and are announcing super early. I wonder if she's even had her first doctor's appointment yet. Maybe they were being lazy or evasive when they didn't share a due date, or maybe they have no idea because they haven't had an ultrasound yet.
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I actually loathe them.
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This is making me incredibly angry. I’m ACTUALLY struggling with infertility and these clowns are making it into a huge joke. Fuck these assholes.
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I’m beginning to feel like that too. Buying the comments on IG to make them look better really disgusts me. Kelsey is just as much of a sleeze as Corbin is.alyssadt wrote:I actually loathe them.
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I can’t see tags but was wondering about that TCC vlog from two weeks ago. Did it have infertility tags?
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I know I said I wouldn't watch it, but I only watched the few seconds of them pulling the balloons out because I was curious to see the family's reaction. By the way, none of them seemed all that excited or surprised. It was kind of a dull reaction.
Anyway, I realized it's not good for me to watch them. It's bringing out feelings of jealousy and I don't want that. I've said this many times, but it took us 5 years to have our daughter, who is 2 weeks older than June. Im not getting any younger, and I honestly have no clue if another kid is in our cards. I am absolutely beyond blessed by my daughter and feel privileged to be her mom. But it is still painful to know she might not get a sibling. It's freaking hard watching asshole people get what they want so easily, and flaunt it around as if they know what struggle is. It's not a side of me I'm proud of. I need to truly listen to my heart, and walk away from these people. They don't bring out the good in me.
To all of you still struggling with infertility and loss, tears are streaming down my face for you. I know the pain. I wish I could give you a hug. If you are feeling angry and jealous too, know you're not alone. Listen to your heart. If it's not healthy for you to follow them, don't click. They're truly not worth it.
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Anyway, I realized it's not good for me to watch them. It's bringing out feelings of jealousy and I don't want that. I've said this many times, but it took us 5 years to have our daughter, who is 2 weeks older than June. Im not getting any younger, and I honestly have no clue if another kid is in our cards. I am absolutely beyond blessed by my daughter and feel privileged to be her mom. But it is still painful to know she might not get a sibling. It's freaking hard watching asshole people get what they want so easily, and flaunt it around as if they know what struggle is. It's not a side of me I'm proud of. I need to truly listen to my heart, and walk away from these people. They don't bring out the good in me.
To all of you still struggling with infertility and loss, tears are streaming down my face for you. I know the pain. I wish I could give you a hug. If you are feeling angry and jealous too, know you're not alone. Listen to your heart. If it's not healthy for you to follow them, don't click. They're truly not worth it.
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Here were their keywords/tags for that vlog—so, yes, they DID include infertility AND pregnant:jmoysa wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:04 pmI’m beginning to feel like that too. Buying the comments on IG to make them look better really disgusts me. Kelsey is just as much of a sleeze as Corbin is.alyssadt wrote:I actually loathe them.
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"keywords\":[\"the wander family\",\"steps to wander\",\"second baby\",\"second child\",\"second pregnancy\",\"infertile\",\"fertility\",\"pregnant\",\"test results\",\"doctor\",\"infertility\",\"pregnancy test\",\"baby\",\"DIY\",\"new house\",\"home\",\"new home\",\"dream house\",\"new\",\"new baby\",\"family friendly\",\"couple\",\"family vlogs\",\"family bloggers\",\"daily vlogs\",\"cute couple\",\"parenting\",\"Wander\",\"Kelsey and Corbin\",\"Corbin and Kelsey\",\"juniper\"
I 100% think they knew they were pregnant during that vlog (February 28).
They are just assholes!!!!!!
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Cute Couple? Someone thinks mightily highly of himself and his wife doesn't he? I will admit Kelsey is pretty, but he looks like a Hobbit!ewokfan11 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:32 pmHere were their keywords/tags for that vlog—so, yes, they DID include infertility AND pregnant:jmoysa wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:04 pmI’m beginning to feel like that too. Buying the comments on IG to make them look better really disgusts me. Kelsey is just as much of a sleeze as Corbin is.alyssadt wrote:I actually loathe them.
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I can’t see tags but was wondering about that TCC vlog from two weeks ago. Did it have infertility tags?
"keywords\":[\"the wander family\",\"steps to wander\",\"second baby\",\"second child\",\"second pregnancy\",\"infertile\",\"fertility\",\"pregnant\",\"test results\",\"doctor\",\"infertility\",\"pregnancy test\",\"baby\",\"DIY\",\"new house\",\"home\",\"new home\",\"dream house\",\"new\",\"new baby\",\"family friendly\",\"couple\",\"family vlogs\",\"family bloggers\",\"daily vlogs\",\"cute couple\",\"parenting\",\"Wander\",\"Kelsey and Corbin\",\"Corbin and Kelsey\",\"juniper\"
I 100% think they knew they were pregnant during that vlog (February 28).
They are just assholes!!!!!!
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I just checked Corbin's Instagram Followers and Missy and Bryan don't even follow him. That says it all right there. He's the problem!avabrooke1226 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:58 pmTrue, it definitely validates all the speculation about it being Corbin’s fault the friendship ended. I really want to know what exactly happened, how it all went down but at this point I don’t think they’ll ever say.PirateWench8 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:11 pmI don't think Bryan and Missy have a problem with Kelsey at all just with the controlling Douche she's married too. It's a shame really, because I think that Missy and Kelsey truly cared about and loved one another. Just how Corbin was treating her Dad in June's birthday vlog sent off alarm bells for me. I think he alienates Kelsey's family and friends so that he can have complete control over her and June.avabrooke1226 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:56 pm Bryan and Missy both liked Kelsey’s IG pic about June becoming a big sister but neither of them liked Corbin’s
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Here is what probably happened with the Lannings Brian gave him an order which he was paying golden money for, but little entitled, jealous of the pool, jealous of the house, jealous of the lifestyle Corby was having none of it! He probably thought he was doing Brian a favour helping him out! When I am definitely sure Brian offered them big bucks to help them out! When I started watching them after Brian introduced them they had like 68000 subs! They weren’t even grateful because of daily bumps their views and subs skyrocketed! Ungrateful greedy people! Kelsey is just without personality,the way he was holding her yesterday around the shoulders was also uneasy and controlling to me! I can totally see Kelsey after playing house with her dolly children ending up like her mom! And the only person to hug her after the announcement was her mother! They were so cold to each other after the announcement too!
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I had to stop watching them when they started using infertility clickbait, and only came over here because I saw they were now pregnant.lavenderlove wrote:I know I said I wouldn't watch it, but I only watched the few seconds of them pulling the balloons out because I was curious to see the family's reaction. By the way, none of them seemed all that excited or surprised. It was kind of a dull reaction.
Anyway, I realized it's not good for me to watch them. It's bringing out feelings of jealousy and I don't want that. I've said this many times, but it took us 5 years to have our daughter, who is 2 weeks older than June. Im not getting any younger, and I honestly have no clue if another kid is in our cards. I am absolutely beyond blessed by my daughter and feel privileged to be her mom. But it is still painful to know she might not get a sibling. It's freaking hard watching asshole people get what they want so easily, and flaunt it around as if they know what struggle is. It's not a side of me I'm proud of. I need to truly listen to my heart, and walk away from these people. They don't bring out the good in me.
To all of you still struggling with infertility and loss, tears are streaming down my face for you. I know the pain. I wish I could give you a hug. If you are feeling angry and jealous too, know you're not alone. Listen to your heart. If it's not healthy for you to follow them, don't click. They're truly not worth it.
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In an hour, I have yet another appointment to be put on yet another round of Clomid. It’s tough, really tough, to see people like them get pregnant so easily, when I’ve never even seen a positive pregnancy test. They will never understand the pain of not knowing if you can even have kids, how dare they use something so heartbreaking for their own gain. They are horrible people.
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I am so sorry you're going through all this. I hope you get your positive soon.Shorty02 wrote:I had to stop watching them when they started using infertility clickbait, and only came over here because I saw they were now pregnant.lavenderlove wrote:I know I said I wouldn't watch it, but I only watched the few seconds of them pulling the balloons out because I was curious to see the family's reaction. By the way, none of them seemed all that excited or surprised. It was kind of a dull reaction.
Anyway, I realized it's not good for me to watch them. It's bringing out feelings of jealousy and I don't want that. I've said this many times, but it took us 5 years to have our daughter, who is 2 weeks older than June. Im not getting any younger, and I honestly have no clue if another kid is in our cards. I am absolutely beyond blessed by my daughter and feel privileged to be her mom. But it is still painful to know she might not get a sibling. It's freaking hard watching asshole people get what they want so easily, and flaunt it around as if they know what struggle is. It's not a side of me I'm proud of. I need to truly listen to my heart, and walk away from these people. They don't bring out the good in me.
To all of you still struggling with infertility and loss, tears are streaming down my face for you. I know the pain. I wish I could give you a hug. If you are feeling angry and jealous too, know you're not alone. Listen to your heart. If it's not healthy for you to follow them, don't click. They're truly not worth it.
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In an hour, I have yet another appointment to be put on yet another round of Clomid. It’s tough, really tough, to see people like them get pregnant so easily, when I’ve never even seen a positive pregnancy test. They will never understand the pain of not knowing if you can even have kids, how dare they use something so heartbreaking for their own gain. They are horrible people.
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What makes me angry is that Kelsey made that comment about being disappointed that she didn’t have the experience of TTC, seeing a negative test, etc. then after barely a month of trying, they cry infertility, and not long after that click bait a “miscarriage”! And, turns out they got pregnant in a perfectly average amount of time, even though Kelsey has an irregular cycle.Shorty02 wrote:I had to stop watching them when they started using infertility clickbait, and only came over here because I saw they were now pregnant.lavenderlove wrote:I know I said I wouldn't watch it, but I only watched the few seconds of them pulling the balloons out because I was curious to see the family's reaction. By the way, none of them seemed all that excited or surprised. It was kind of a dull reaction.
Anyway, I realized it's not good for me to watch them. It's bringing out feelings of jealousy and I don't want that. I've said this many times, but it took us 5 years to have our daughter, who is 2 weeks older than June. Im not getting any younger, and I honestly have no clue if another kid is in our cards. I am absolutely beyond blessed by my daughter and feel privileged to be her mom. But it is still painful to know she might not get a sibling. It's freaking hard watching asshole people get what they want so easily, and flaunt it around as if they know what struggle is. It's not a side of me I'm proud of. I need to truly listen to my heart, and walk away from these people. They don't bring out the good in me.
To all of you still struggling with infertility and loss, tears are streaming down my face for you. I know the pain. I wish I could give you a hug. If you are feeling angry and jealous too, know you're not alone. Listen to your heart. If it's not healthy for you to follow them, don't click. They're truly not worth it.
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In an hour, I have yet another appointment to be put on yet another round of Clomid. It’s tough, really tough, to see people like them get pregnant so easily, when I’ve never even seen a positive pregnancy test. They will never understand the pain of not knowing if you can even have kids, how dare they use something so heartbreaking for their own gain. They are horrible people.
My partner and I tried for over 3 years, not even a hint of a pregnancy. I was annoyed the first time as they acted like their (relatively) planned pregnancy was an inconvenience, and this time I’m straight up angry. Kelsey’s “best friend” went thru miscarriages, how dare they fake infertility for views?!?!
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Also saying “Will June be an only?” and zero progesterone despicable people!
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I don't think it's a coincidence that they started daily vlogging at the same time they started trying to have their first. They knew that pregnancy and baby gave them content and would jumpstart their channel. And one way to do that is to know someone who already has an established audience.
Then after they alienated Bryan and Missy and were no longer living in California and riding their coattails, I think they looked around and realized a lot of the successful family vlogging channels that rose from obscurity started with a story of infertility or pregnancy loss.
It's so gross and exploitative. But these two are desperately trying to make it on YouTube and appear successful that they think they can fake it until they make it. Buying views, buying likes, buying comments, etc. I think they'll do anything to avoid getting jobs at this point.
I thought it was odd that they originally did have comments enabled on their announcement video and were moderating them, and then suddenly comments are disabled. I wonder if they didn't get the reaction they were hoping for, or not enough people cared to comment. Scratch that and move on to plan B. Then HOURS later Instagram posts finally go up and somehow Kelsey is able to get 500+ comments. I wonder if Instagram is easier to moderate/easier to block people on, and maybe they threw in a couple hundred bought comments for good measure. I did a quick Google search and one website claims you can buy comments from "active" users at $40 for 100 comments
Then after they alienated Bryan and Missy and were no longer living in California and riding their coattails, I think they looked around and realized a lot of the successful family vlogging channels that rose from obscurity started with a story of infertility or pregnancy loss.
It's so gross and exploitative. But these two are desperately trying to make it on YouTube and appear successful that they think they can fake it until they make it. Buying views, buying likes, buying comments, etc. I think they'll do anything to avoid getting jobs at this point.
I thought it was odd that they originally did have comments enabled on their announcement video and were moderating them, and then suddenly comments are disabled. I wonder if they didn't get the reaction they were hoping for, or not enough people cared to comment. Scratch that and move on to plan B. Then HOURS later Instagram posts finally go up and somehow Kelsey is able to get 500+ comments. I wonder if Instagram is easier to moderate/easier to block people on, and maybe they threw in a couple hundred bought comments for good measure. I did a quick Google search and one website claims you can buy comments from "active" users at $40 for 100 comments
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Most of their other posts have less than 100 comments, less than 50 even, yet that one has 600+? Clearly bought. Also I saw some other posts have comment that just say “+1” or there’s several in a row that say the exact same thing, but different users. It’s clearly fake. And, there are definitely comments being deleted - I’ve seen entire discussions that had some form of criticism, but now all the comments are “love you, you’re so perfect!”HashtagBlessed wrote:I don't think it's a coincidence that they started daily vlogging at the same time they started trying to have their first. They knew that pregnancy and baby gave them content and would jumpstart their channel. And one way to do that is to know someone who already has an established audience.
Then after they alienated Bryan and Missy and were no longer living in California and riding their coattails, I think they looked around and realized a lot of the successful family vlogging channels that rose from obscurity started with a story of infertility or pregnancy loss.
It's so gross and exploitative. But these two are desperately trying to make it on YouTube and appear successful that they think they can fake it until they make it. Buying views, buying likes, buying comments, etc. I think they'll do anything to avoid getting jobs at this point.
I thought it was odd that they originally did have comments enabled on their announcement video and were moderating them, and then suddenly comments are disabled. I wonder if they didn't get the reaction they were hoping for, or not enough people cared to comment. Scratch that and move on to plan B. Then HOURS later Instagram posts finally go up and somehow Kelsey is able to get 500+ comments. I wonder if Instagram is easier to moderate/easier to block people on, and maybe they threw in a couple hundred bought comments for good measure. I did a quick Google search and one website claims you can buy comments from "active" users at $40 for 100 comments
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I read an actual comment that said she "admired" their "patience and persistence through this journey." What? Most people will conceive within 3 to 6 months. They're not special or reproductively challenged. They're completely average, but acting like they've struggled. There are plenty of other comments about how they've waited so long for this, etc. No, it just feels like a lifetime because they wouldn't stop clickbaiting it.
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If I had the time I would be messaging their sponsorships. Just to let them know the kind of people they have peddling their products. Ones who fake miscarriages and infertility. Sure that isn't something those bigger people like Tiden Walmart and Canon would like to hear. No need to second guess they simply have to look at their timeline of their fucking journey to see.
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Are they really that naive? She’s still in the very early stages, she could miscarry. I’m not wishing it on them, but it does happen. The multiple comments of now we know were having a baby, no it doesn’t always work like that.
These two are just annoying.
These two are just annoying.
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I am just
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These people are scum of the earth. Now it is "God plan" and you hear her mention not taking the progesterone. I had to to keep my pregnancy. Who argues about progesterone time kee pro a baby you supposedly want ? They did it when they told her she had low progesterone and they did it again when the doctor said they would need to take it.
They're disgusting.
Also funny she is wearing the same exact shirt in the video that she was wearing to test live. I highly doubt she tested live.
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These people are scum of the earth. Now it is "God plan" and you hear her mention not taking the progesterone. I had to to keep my pregnancy. Who argues about progesterone time kee pro a baby you supposedly want ? They did it when they told her she had low progesterone and they did it again when the doctor said they would need to take it.
They're disgusting.
Also funny she is wearing the same exact shirt in the video that she was wearing to test live. I highly doubt she tested live.
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