Joan & John: Buy my crap and pay my Bills | Part #4

[FlowersTar 68]

I gotta say this, forgive me for feeding the troll: NONE of us are "insulting a mother's grief". All of us feel bad for what she went through. Nobody should have to go through that.
But. She dismisses other women's grief. She actually told a woman who had lost a young child (3-4) that she should be thankful she had the years she did to be with her child. Because she, the gold medalist in the pain Olympics, didn't get any time with her child. It's things like that that we question. And barely being able to say anything good about Vera without mentioning Maeve. She couldn't be around babies before Vera was born, but she takes her to the IVF clinic, not even thinking about how triggered she would have been had someone brought a baby to the clinic when she was going through it.

Nobody is dismissing her grief. Just her self absorbed behavior and seeming lack of empathy.

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This, absolutely. Plus Maeve had a more special 4th "birthday" than Vera had for her first.
The list goes on and on......

[HelloSweetie]

Joan has also abused Go Fund Me’s. She accepted money for a book that she then later decided was too costly to produce. She accepts money without shame, and doesn’t feel the need to pay it forward to others. Grief doesn’t change the fact that she’s an entitled and selfish human being.


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[2rcmeeksrichards2]

yall are really giving joan a hard time..
this whole thread is basically about maeve and how joan doesnt appreciate vera. honestly get over yourselves. yall are just searching for drama if youre gonna insult a mothers grief.

I generally don’t feed trolls, but I’m feeling generous today.

Your newbie status, paired with your comment history is suspect. To find this thread, you’d have to know where to look. Pair that with the actual truth that this thread encompasses more than “just Maeve”, and I’m left with a conclusion that you might know Joan personally.

So here’s my professional “how to adult successfully” tip... see something you don’t like? Keep scrolling.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk


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woah woah, this is clear proof of how outrageous this thread has become. do you hear yourself? i am NOT related to joan by any means. i made my account about a week about to contribute to colleen ballinger gossip i came across this thread while looking through ellie and jareds. i love gossip and i love contributing gossip, but some just get extremely outrageous and need to be called out. most things said here about joan are true, but honestly yall are getting a little obsessive. just leave them be, it doesnt really make sense why yall invest in such a small page. i think kkandbabyj drama is way more entertaining they so funny up in there! this shit is just sad. grow up and let joan live the way she wants

Can we help but “invest” when she:
- starts unnecessary conversations on ‘controversial’ topics?
- airs her marital problems on Instagram for us all to see?
- belittle other people’s grief/opinions on anything?




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[Edenberry]

yall are really giving joan a hard time..
this whole thread is basically about maeve and how joan doesnt appreciate vera. honestly get over yourselves. yall are just searching for drama if youre gonna insult a mothers grief.

I generally don’t feed trolls, but I’m feeling generous today.

Your newbie status, paired with your comment history is suspect. To find this thread, you’d have to know where to look. Pair that with the actual truth that this thread encompasses more than “just Maeve”, and I’m left with a conclusion that you might know Joan personally.

So here’s my professional “how to adult successfully” tip... see something you don’t like? Keep scrolling.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk


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woah woah, this is clear proof of how outrageous this thread has become. do you hear yourself? i am NOT related to joan by any means. i made my account about a week about to contribute to colleen ballinger gossip i came across this thread while looking through ellie and jareds. i love gossip and i love contributing gossip, but some just get extremely outrageous and need to be called out. most things said here about joan are true, but honestly yall are getting a little obsessive. just leave them be, it doesnt really make sense why yall invest in such a small page. i think kkandbabyj drama is way more entertaining they so funny up in there! this shit is just sad. grow up and let joan live the way she wants

I love how you think that because of her situation she's above gossip in any shape or form. Newsflash, we've ALL got something big in our lives. That doesn't shield us from the truth of the rest of our lives. We ALL have expressed sorrow for the fresh pain of her loss. We don't make fun of her loss. But what she chooses to share about how she handles it is up for discussion. She is hypocritical to the extreme. She has made SO many people walk on eggshells for her and has cut people out of her life after the loss of her first child. Okay, it was an awful thing that happened and I get that. I really do. But then to turn around after the birth of Vera and do the very things that she used to cry and complain about others doing that made her feel triggered and upset is just wrong of her. She's blind to her hypocrisy and she's rude. No one on this side of the screen should know about the petty fights and grievances she has towards her husband, but she shared them and we know so we talk about it. We DON'T make fun of her loss. But we question the way it is affecting those in her hosue.

[FlowersTar 68]

Not to mention the fact that she has tried to keep Vera as a baby for so long the poor little girl is having physical therapy to help her walk as she has been clung onto for dear life and not been allowed to be put down on the floor to explore. No wonder her legs haven't developed in strength.

[Kataja]

woah woah, this is clear proof of how outrageous this thread has become. do you hear yourself? i am NOT related to joan by any means. i made my account about a week about to contribute to colleen ballinger gossip i came across this thread while looking through ellie and jareds. i love gossip and i love contributing gossip, but some just get extremely outrageous and need to be called out. most things said here about joan are true, but honestly yall are getting a little obsessive. just leave them be, it doesnt really make sense why yall invest in such a small page. i think kkandbabyj drama is way more entertaining they so funny up in there! this shit is just sad. grow up and let joan live the way she wants

How hypocritical of you: '' I love gossip and i love contributing gossip, but some just get extremely outrageous and need to be called out. most things said here about joan are true, but honestly yall are getting a little obsessive. just leave them be''

Did you leave Colleen Ballinger to be? Why she isn't allowed to just be left? Why is Joan out of the question? I don't repeat what others have already said but you are basically saying that other people are more interesting. Yes. To you. (Yet you decided to stop by...) Everyone has their own jam they are into. Many on this board have experienced loss or infertility themselves. That's why they started watching J&J and that's why they also created this thread and started talking about them.

BTW, do you know anyone that has intentionally eaten their dead child's ashes? Is it outrageous to talk about that? I find her actions more extreme..

[131618]

woah woah, this is clear proof of how outrageous this thread has become. do you hear yourself? i am NOT related to joan by any means. i made my account about a week about to contribute to colleen ballinger gossip i came across this thread while looking through ellie and jareds. i love gossip and i love contributing gossip, but some just get extremely outrageous and need to be called out. most things said here about joan are true, but honestly yall are getting a little obsessive. just leave them be, it doesnt really make sense why yall invest in such a small page. i think kkandbabyj drama is way more entertaining they so funny up in there! this shit is just sad. grow up and let joan live the way she wants

How hypocritical of you: '' I love gossip and i love contributing gossip, but some just get extremely outrageous and need to be called out. most things said here about joan are true, but honestly yall are getting a little obsessive. just leave them be''

Did you leave Colleen Ballinger to be? Why she isn't allowed to just be left? Why is Joan out of the question? I don't repeat what others have already said but you are basically saying that other people are more interesting. Yes. To you. (Yet you decided to stop by...) Everyone has their own jam they are into. Many on this board have experienced loss or infertility themselves. That's why they started watching J&J and that's why they also created this thread and started talking about them.

BTW, do you know anyone that has intentionally eaten their dead child's ashes? Is it outrageous to talk about that? I find her actions more extreme..

If she's not Joan it sounds like they could totally be friends one day...you know with the mindset that she can gossip about others but Joan ia special

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[FlowersTar 68]

I don't know which part of the house this is, but is this daylight?

[ughpleasee]

I don't know which part of the house this is, but is this daylight?

Probably, it seems like it is during the day...

[lmmomSD]

Wow. Hope they do some weather stripping before winter...

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[Spoink_12]

It looks like a screen door. The dogs paw is on the piston cylinder where it opens and closes.
So I wouldn't be too worried about weather stripping as the actual door is behind the screen door when closed. But it would still help to have it.

[FlowersTar 68]

It looks like a screen door. The dogs paw is on the piston cylinder where it opens and closes.
So I wouldn't be too worried about weather stripping as the actual door is behind the screen door when closed. But it would still help to have it.

Ah right, we don't have screen doors here so I hadn't thought of that

[lmmomSD]

It looks like a screen door. The dogs paw is on the piston cylinder where it opens and closes.
So I wouldn't be too worried about weather stripping as the actual door is behind the screen door when closed. But it would still help to have it.

I had thought maybe that's what it was, but it seemed so wide. You're probably right though.

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[aral12]

I wonder if she will do the “school” boards every year? Hopefully when Vera begins, it gets to be about her and not what stage of life Maeve would have been at.....


But who am I kidding Poor Vera. I wish she had at least one present parent.


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[FlowersTar 68]

I wonder if she will do the “school” boards every year? Hopefully when Vera begins, it gets to be about her and not what stage of life Maeve would have been at.....


But who am I kidding Poor Vera. I wish she had at least one present parent.


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Wow, just wow. I'm speechless

[FlowersTar 68]

Sorry to double post but 4 1/2 years??? I thought she was born in July? That makes her 4 years 2 months.

[Kataja]

I wonder if she will do the “school” boards every year? Hopefully when Vera begins, it gets to be about her and not what stage of life Maeve would have been at.....


But who am I kidding Poor Vera. I wish she had at least one present parent.


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Wow, just wow. I'm speechless

I just simply can't understand. It was not her first day of pre-k so why to make that kind of picture? I understand thinking that it would have been but making it state that it IS her first day is beyond weird to me.

[Bored2018]

I was just about to post that pic but you all are fast! I’m sorry, but that is just too much. This has gone too far. Is she going to do that every year?!? I just can’t even understand how she thinks that’s normal. She seriously needs some help. I can’t believe they’re going to try to bring another baby into that family. She is clearly not in the right state of mind for that. Poor Vera. Will she have to pose with her board and a board for Maeve next to her every year? Ugh. I’m sorry, this just is too much. This can’t be normal...

[SKM12]

“Every milestone Vera reaches is a GLARING example of what we’ve missed out with Maeve”

OMG!! Poor Vera. She’s going to spend her whole life being compared to her dead sister. Every milestone she reaches is just going to make Joan sad. Jesus Christ. This is truly disturbing and just sad. Joan needs real professional help.


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[Edenberry]

“Every milestone Vera reaches is a GLARING example of what we’ve missed out with Maeve”

OMG!! Poor Vera. She’s going to spend her whole life being compared to her dead sister. Every milestone she reaches is just going to make Joan sad. Jesus Christ. This is truly disturbing and just sad. Joan needs real professional help.


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My god. Yes, it's sad they lost their child in such a way but to be very blunt (and I've had to learn that bluntness needs to be a tool to sometimes break someone out of their delusions), Maeve is not alive, will never be alive, and should not be thought to be alive. This is disturbing. How many people in the world have lost a baby like they did? A lot. A LOT. It's hard for everyone but I highly doubt all of them carry on this way. They get help, they grieve, they learn to cope, and they continue their lives, albeit with loss on their hearts. She has a mental problem, and I don't mean that as an insult. She has a BIG problem.

This is why I had to stop following her on IG. We mourn those we've lost. We don't carry on as if they were still here in such a way. We remember them lovingly how they WERE, not how they WOULD STILL BE. I think it's clear now that Joan will NEVER move on from the loss of Maeve. Her husband has checked out and seeks escape with his biking and she rules that house with her feelings. If she has a therapist, she's either lying to them, getting bad advice or not following their actual advice. No therapist in their right mind would encourage this.