Gardner Quad Squad: We're Not Gardeners, We're Farmers (P17)

[Nikki]

Question: At what point are preemies past the point of being considered preemies and and just considered regular kids, measured the way full term kids are measured?

Every preemie is different and much depends upon the challenges they faced pre & post birth. I agree that many doctors start using the children's height/weight chart at around age 2, but if the preemies still register small there is little concern.

Most doctors I consulted (and with two premies, I saw many) reassured me that the children don't completely catch up until age 7 (especially with their immune system). That said, developmental milestones are constantly assessed and adjusted for the child's situation so that early intervention can be considered if helpful. There's just no hard & fast rule.

It's clear the the larger set of twins have different developmental challenges than the smaller set. It does appear that each twin within a set is similar in development. It's reassuring to see that they all have a healthy BMI. Does anyone remember if oxygen deprivation was an issue for any of them, particularly the larger set?

Leave my precious miracles for any more than a few hours? Never.

I wouldn’t say the littles are a healthy BMI. Give me a minute.


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[Nikki]

https://www.infantchart.com/child/

Evie 32lb, 37" - 62.9% weight, 47.6% height, 69.4% height to weight
assuming scarlett same height for lack other numbers 41.7% weight, 47.6% height, 39.0% height to weight
Ass announced one of the littles height as 34" (nurse was saying 33 something in background) with lack of other info both littles being given this height
Indie -2.7% weight, 2.2% height, 17.8% height to weight
Esme - 12.3% weight, 2.2% height, 53.3% height to weight.

I would bet indie has lost weight with how sick she has been.

results from 2.5 year check, using i think same site.

Indie is basically the same weight as July.

"Because I was intrigued when they posted these back in July I ran them through the typical charts for height and weight for age to calculate their percentiles

Scarlett 29.6 lb 34.75 " - height to weight 83.3%, height to age 15.9%, weight to age 47.2% - so she was actually below average weight for her age technically and below average height, but when you look at those two measurements combined she is way above average (I think this calculation was done also relating to age via calculating BMI and relating to age, with a very odd shaped graph to account for childhood growth spurts and BMI not being best for them. All calculations were based on standard growth charts, I believe for American female children)
Evangeline 30.8 lb 34.75 in, height to weight 92.3 %, height to age 15.9%, weight to age 61.4%
Esme 25 lb, 33.5 in, height to weight 34.3%, height to age 3% weight to age 4.7%
Indie 11.1kg (24.4lb), 33.25 in, height to weight 28.5%, height to age 2%, weight to age 2.8%
All four girls are short for their age, Evie is the only one above average weight for age, Scarlett is almost average, indie and Esme way below. Which is probably how the gardners are looking at it, in isolation. When you include the height with weight and age the figures change dramatically. With Evie is the top 10% of children her age, and Scarlett not much behind her in top 20%. Indie and Esme are below average but not by as much as the others are above. "


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[BumblebeeBubbles]

I am considered a millennial (although I hate that word) and I have gone on one vacation with my husband. He surprised me with a trip to france for our five year anniversary. It was fora week and both sets of grandparents took turns watching my boys. We go on maybe one date a month, nothing like Ashley and Tyson. I wouldn't say I am entitled though. I would feel so guilty if we were to go another trip like that anytime soon. Maybe for our 10 year anniversary. Other than that, we like spending time with our kids and want to make memories with them.

That sounds lovely.

Husband and I have never had a kid-free holiday. We're hoping to have someone trained in all the daily medical care of our children soon. So that we can go on dates more often. I think our last date was summer 2016 I can't remember lol.

Even if whoever watches them does Potty Train them they'll come home be too lazy to take them and undo the training.

They are just selfish ignorant people that should have never had 4 kids at one time. And they're too old to be millennials that's not their problem.

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Not that is matters but millennials are 1982-2004 generally. And that’s them. Fatty might be on the edge but not by much. And Ass is one to a T.


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[Nikki]

The littles seem to be dropping slowly of the bottom of a growth chart in both height and weight. Which I would probably put down to all the empty calories in donuts and other junk food.


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[ItIsSunny]

Mentions of Costa Rica are slowly disappearing from comments, as I continue to hear Tyson repeat "we're not going anywhere".



I'm guessing the pressure on Ashley to go to these Senegence trips is pretty intense, and her spouse is expected to come, as well. Some companies are anti-family like that; they demand allegiance to the business over one's personal life.

[Howlin17]

Why is it ok to film the girls without tops on at the doctors office but not ok to film Esme topless with Screech on Lipshit?
Wasn't Hugsy in school? College? How is she going to take care of the FF while Screech and Perv are on vacay? also, doesn't Grandma work? That leaves Goth MiMi and old creeper? Not good.....they believe everything Screech and Buttback do is fabulous.....
Maybe Mr. Mountable and Studs mama are joining their bff in Costa Rica. Date nights, indeed! Can't wait to see 2 Ass Bison in swim trunks! And if MM is there.....oh my......Screech will wear a string bikini? Meekly will be chasing young studs on the beach....can't wait!!

Had to put a lot in this post......couldn't get on here all day.

[Howlin17]

Mentions of Costa Rica are slowly disappearing from comments, as I continue to hear Tyson repeat "we're not going anywhere".



I'm guessing the pressure on Ashley to go to these Senegence trips is pretty intense, and her spouse is expected to come, as well. Some companies are anti-family like that; they demand allegiance to the business over one's personal life.

LOL....these 2 JUMP at the chance to get away from their FF.....Screech especially! Senegence is to blame?? I really doubt that these 2 deadbeats are soooooo put out having to travel

[DoodleBop2]

I had wondered why the girls were put on whole milk so soon. Even preemies without weight issues around here it's pretty standard preemies stay on formula until 2 at least, because of the vitamins. The little two I wonder how long it will be until someone notices their weight. Probably one reason they avoid the doctor.

LOL, these two do anything to get away from their miracles.

[Nikki]

For other stats.
One year - taken from blog
Evie - 22.16lb (81.01%), 27.75" (6.76%)
Scarlett - 20lb 13 oz (64.34%), 27.75" (6.76%)
Indie - 18.78lb (32.27%) 27" (1.29%)
Esme - 19lb 10oz (45.93%), 27.5" (4.09%)

Two year - taken from blog
Evie - 27.56 lb (63.04 %), 32" (14.36 %) - BMI 18.92 (93.89 %)
Scarlett - 26.46 lb (48.3%), 33" (36.95%), BMI 17.08 (67%)
Indie - 22.49lb (4.89%), 31.25" (5.37%), BMI 16.19 (43.3%)
Esme - 23.48 lb (11.35%), 31.5" (7.64%), BMI 16.63 (55.78%)

Two and a half year blog
no percentiles given, so using calculated ones from bmi and %
Evie - 30.86lb (61.4%), 34.75" (15.9%), BMI 17.97 (90%)
Scarlett - 29.54lb (47.2%), 34.75" (15.9%), BMI 17.2 (80%)
Indie - 24.47lb (2.8%), 33.25" (2%), BMI 15.56 (37%)
Esme - 25.13lb (4.7%), 33.5" (3%), BMI 15.74 (40%)

Three year
Some heights missing, so girls given twins height if not stated. similarly Ashley states littles at 34", nurse is muttering 33 and something in the back ground.
Evie - 32lb (62.9%), 37" (47.6%), bmi 16.4 (71%)
Scarlett - 30lb (41.7%), 37"(47.6%), bmi 15.4 (41%)
Indie - 25lb (2.7%), 34"(2.2%), bmi 15.2 (34%)
Esme - 27lb (12.3%), 34" (2.2%), bmi 16.4 (71%)

(I like statistics)
Indie, has gone from 30% for weight down to 5% to 2.5%, both littles are still way behind in height. Bigs have caught up in height and weight really. When they grow up there is going to be some serious envy from bigs to littles as they will look "cuter".

[SezziePieBarleyEvers]

Felt sad today hearing no Vlogs til Feb. Gonna miss them all. Bye Durls see ya soon. Get better.

[DoodleBop2]

Unfortunately when parents feed their kids crap and one child has a body type that gains easily and one who doesn't there will be resentment.

[lovethispage]

Can’t wait till Summer when Buttback’s butt back will make an appearance. I imagine that and his girth have become ginormous. Maybe I won’t have to wait until Summer. With all their warm weather trips including this current one to Costa Rica maybe we’ll get to see how big the white bellied whale really has become. I think he’s probably going to have to keep his T-shirt on to not embarrass himself. We know he’s going to have a really hard time staying off social media... how will he do it?

[Snarky Lady]

They must be sitting there waiting on new comments on YT. Any mention of Costa Rica is taken off immediately So tonight they go out with the Bingham's to game plan. Either the Bingham's are going to sneak to Costa Rica that second week to meet them or they are going to somehow include them on some of their v'logs. LOLOL I knew the KAD were stupid but really did not know they were as stupid as they are. Anyone who believes Dumb and Dumber are just taking off to spend time with the FF needs a reality check. They need to man up and just admit and stop lying. Greedner's you profess to be church going people, you need to look up the verse that says, "Be sure your sins will find you out" If you think you can hide a two week trip away from your girls you are crazy lol

[Sneaky_snarky]

Oh oh! Now this is a reach but a fun idea.

So they go out with or have gone out with the binghams to create footage for the next two weeks. This would be easy for mountable to place in his own vlogs as if nothing were amiss. Gives an alibi of sorts.

Then, someone else logs into Snapchat and uses Tyler’s name to snap the girls.

Same with Instagram. Someone posts pics of kids at dance or where ever.

Bam- looks like they are home all week.

There is just no reason to have new suitcases and take a break right at the same time there is a work conference.




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[lovethispage]

Oh oh! Now this is a reach but a fun idea.

So they go out with or have gone out with the binghams to create footage for the next two weeks. This would be easy for mountable to place in his own vlogs as if nothing were amiss. Gives an alibi of sorts.

Then, someone else logs into Snapchat and uses Tyler’s name to snap the girls.

Same with Instagram. Someone posts pics of kids at dance or where ever.

Bam- looks like they are home all week.

There is just no reason to have new suitcases and take a break right at the same time there is a work conference.




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I believe you have something there...

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snotty response from the queen spud

[Spruce]

I'm excited for the quads that they'll have time away from their useless parents. This is terrific news IMO. They'll get exposure to people who talk to them, don't film them, and interact with them. It's all good. They'll eat better food and be the priority. Something for everyone to cheer, this is what people say they want for the girls.

There are people who fantasized about the girls being sprung free of the parents. Here the girls will be 'free' of those 2 for the next couple of weeks. That should be cause for celebration for the people who have been wanting that. Every day away from the greedy parents is one more day of something approaching normal.

And let's not forget the followers -- it's good for followers of this shitshow to go find a life somewhere. Maybe actually interact with people in real life instead of watching videos of others living their lives or performing. Imagine that, having a life that involves people you see in person. Fantastic!

[Snarky Lady]

Oh oh! Now this is a reach but a fun idea.

So they go out with or have gone out with the binghams to create footage for the next two weeks. This would be easy for mountable to place in his own vlogs as if nothing were amiss. Gives an alibi of sorts.

Then, someone else logs into Snapchat and uses Tyler’s name to snap the girls.

Same with Instagram. Someone posts pics of kids at dance or where ever.

Bam- looks like they are home all week.

There is just no reason to have new suitcases and take a break right at the same time there is a work conference.



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I believe you have something there...

Only problem with that is we all know he cannot keep his creepy mouth shut during snapchats and IG's. Would not surprise me at all that they work something out with the Binghams. Maybe they are giving them a trip somewhere for covering for them. I do not trust either family.

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