Tania Licciardo-Toivola: Beans, fake routines and sleeping like sardines. | Part 4

[Ashley18032]

I have a serious question for the group! What are your thoughts on how this weird always perform, always expose your most private moments with total strangers; always strip away any privacy or normalcy and just follow a creepy weird facade/ruse/ideal that comes to Taina’s sick mind? Do you think they will ever have a chance to be idk... Too tired or too sick to perform today... These kid’s aren’t being kept up with government standards for child actors or anything... They’re used and abused for entertainment from the time Taina creepily wakes them up for us to see to the time they pass out even if that’s on the wet, cold, grass in some weird place. It’s such a bizarre construct to me that it is legal to treat your kid’s like show ponies and they have NO rights to breaks! NO rights to privacy! NO real rights at all to their real extortion that is going on for Taina’s self gain, both monetarily and her deathly need for admiration from total strangers. Do you think in our lifetime they will make laws or rules regarding this type of gross violation of privacy of children too young to decide if that’s what they would like for themselves? Should it be legal to potentially damage their ability to obtain jobs or normal adulthood in the future. Their names alone make me think I would throw their resume away because they sound fake... Alias-like. They have their every move exploited. Makes me really question if I should continue watching enabling this. So sad to me! (Then again they are taught how to grift and use the guise of religion or government assistance to never have to actually work! Sick!)


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I personally would never parade my children online like this. They are too young to understand what it really means for them. I also think always having to perform is detrimental to them. But that's my speculation based on what I see in my job (high school teacher).

I think when people are sick they just dont film and then those are the days they cover up with those videos about 1 day trip that she uploads over a few days. Or the random breaks we get.

Eventually I think there will be laws against this.... but whi knows how long they will take.

It's true that a lot of employers wont take them seriously because of their names.

Taina seems to make a lot of decisions for her kids without their input. Like the motorhome trip, minimalism, putting their whole lives on YouTube, religion, what content can be in the books they read, home schooling.

I also dont think kids should be immediately indoctrinated into their parents religion either. I think they should be left a bit more free than she has them and then let them make the choice themselves as an adult. That will be far more meaningful to them.

Taina has taken a lot of choice away from her kids. In my experience that tends to lead to kids who cant make their own decisions and anxiety. But who knows, her kids could be the lucky few percent that aren't harmed by this.

Another thing, teenagers need to be around other teenagers to learn properly how to fit in and get along with others. I went to a training course last year about social anxiety in kids and the psychologist said once a kid turns 14 -15 their brains says "get into the group and breed" and that kids stop relying on their nuclear family group and start to build relationships with friends and these become more important than family ones. (Obviously this is on average but as a teen our friends and socialisation to take up a huge focus for humans).

Her kids dont seem to have the opportunity to build deep and meaningful relationships outside of their family. I'm curious as to the impact this will have on all of them.

I completely agree! Thank you for your input I thought I was insane! Haha! This is so weird to me! Also... I hate to say it but teenage hormones not being explored with the outside world can lead to MAJOR issues within the nuclear family... GROSS! Closed off teens with mix gendered children with no outlet to kiss a girl experiment around leaves some of these kids in a very weird dynamic... You understand where I am going with this... Not natural at all and very well could lead to some major problems!


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[Ashley18032]

I don’t think Taina nor Paul have the credit or income to substantiate buying their own home. That is why I think they are always in these vacation homes. I heard from another forum that the big White House belonged to a relative and she was caretaking while they didn’t have anyone renting it out. Once they saw her gain popularity and the interest the family’s comments showed in renting the home likely was their own demise and the family member now has it listed last I saw $574 a night... YIKES! They really are squatters... Vacation renters, grifters, fly by night sketchy people. I doubt I would even trust renting to someone with ten kids so it must be really hard when you cannot afford your own place to find willing people to accept whatever welfare offers and Taina creepily grifts on top of that. Then ten children young makes most people who aren’t aware how neurotically obedient they are because she’s a control freak would assume ten kids is a recipe for disaster to rent a home to. Just my weird opinions about all the chaos!


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[KarmaViolet]

Perhaps they are delaying their move to Australia because of the fires?


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[Wildebeast-cps]

Why do we see all this weirdness yet her fans only see them as a beautiful, loving, Christian family incapable of doing anything wrong?

[barrol]

Aph's hair is sooo thin! Compared to older vlogs there's almost nothing left...

[meee meee]

I really think TT reads this forum. In their new years eve video she mentioned that she takes care of the children off camera, but she can't do it on camera, because she needs to film. We've been talking about how the older children do everything and she does nothing and suddenly she feels the need to talk about it in her vlog, so yeah I think she might be reading on here.

How strange that she keeps mentioning cleopatra's "piano hands". If she's that good why doesn't she ever pay anything on youtube. TT never passes up any opportunity to make her children and by extension herself, look good. If cleopatra is really all that skilled and is even a piano teacher, why not have her play on camera? Makes you wonder if her piano skills are as good as the many languages she allegedly speaks, which would be just finish and english, because in my book, introducing yourself in a different language, doesn't equate to speaking it.

I don't know why, but cleopatra and omega really irk me the most out of all of the children. I think all of them, except for cleopatra and sometimes omega, are sweet. She is just so annoyingly like her mother it's uncanny. I also hate how she brags about learning a bunch of languages and than can't say anything but an introduction. Same with her hair dressing skills, when she cut the smaller ones hair, she sectioned the hair like a total beginner, she looked like she never even cut hair before. Just like the alleged piano skills, I'm not even sure anymore if she can pay at all, or if it's only that one piece she played on camera that she can actually play.
She just seems like a 20 year old mommas girl to me, that doesn't want to grow up, move out and be responsible for herself.

I'm sorry if I was harsh, but it's honestly how I feel about the whole situation.

[meee meee]

Why do we see all this weirdness yet her fans only see them as a beautiful, loving, Christian family incapable of doing anything wrong?

Yeah it's really weird that people don't seem to see through them. She used to delete negative comments, when they still had their comment section on, so we may never know how many negative comments they've gotten back then. But they're like to dislike ratio was very good, way more likes than dislikes, so there weren't to many critics, which I think is weird.
To me is glaringly obvious that this family's got some major secrets, with all the weird religious beliefs, the passive aggressiveness, the bragging about your average children. I don't know man, there should be way more people realising that somethings wrong with them.

[PeekABoo]

In the New Year's video while they were in the sauna, TT said that they usually don't wear the black suits but they had to because of YT; they usually go naked. Do they go in the sauna naked together?! I can see TT and Paul going together but what about the rest of them?

[KarmaViolet]

In the New Year's video while they were in the sauna, TT said that they usually don't wear the black suits but they had to because of YT; they usually go naked. Do they go in the sauna naked together?! I can see TT and Paul going together but what about the rest of them?

That’s a really Finnish thing tbh. Like sauna = naked, even in public swimming pools. I wouldn’t hold that against them because it’s purely a cultural thing.


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[retiredrn70]

Anyone feel gutted for KJ. It's his Birthday and it's all about Omega. I had a little spark of happiness for him when Taina chased King James and then filming was all over Omega. Kids paid more attention to Omega and just ignored KJ.

Omega is the golden child now. KJ is used to being 3rd wheel or just plain overlooked. Sweet little guy just accepts and "shakes it off". This stupid breakdancing stuff!!!!! KJ is every bit as good as Aph but all TT spoke about was Aph. KJ always has the oddest look when TT talks to him or asks him something. It is like he cant believe she is talking to him. Yep- no Buzz costume for KJ. No books or puzzles or cars or monster trucks. And the whole dang family is bad about worshipping Omega tho TT is the worst. I know now to overlook any vid with birthdays as it will be full of singing happy birthday and lighting candles 200 times and filming of Omega. Like another member on here- I wish I liked him. What kind of a monster doesnt like a child? I feel bad but it is the truth. I bet she breastfeeds that kid til he is 7 or 8 just to keep control of him and I think that is what it is all about. In this case kind of good though as he looks healthier than any of the other children. TT- if you are reading this and I hope you are--I have a suggestion. Make a youtube channel just about Omega. He is such a magical child I am sure his followers would exceed your current channel. Now-- forum members--a fun question--just for the heck of it. If you HAD to care for 2 of the littles and 1 of the not littles for a week--which you would pick?
I would pick KJ and APH and Darty. Now post your preferences. Mine are because KJ is a sweet boy who doesnt get enough attention and APH is just a laugh a minute and much better behaved than a yr ago. And she and KJ might not fight as much as another combo. Darty cause again- He is a sweetie and underrated and needs attention.

[PeekABoo]

In the New Year's video while they were in the sauna, TT said that they usually don't wear the black suits but they had to because of YT; they usually go naked. Do they go in the sauna naked together?! I can see TT and Paul going together but what about the rest of them?

That’s a really Finnish thing tbh. Like sauna = naked, even in public swimming pools. I wouldn’t hold that against them because it’s purely a cultural thing.


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Oh! Thanks for explaining. I always forget how open people in other countries are. I'm still glad that I've never seen anyone in my family naked though.

[retiredrn70]

Why do we see all this weirdness yet her fans only see them as a beautiful, loving, Christian family incapable of doing anything wrong?

I think those adoring fans are somehow plants or maybe alias of themselves. Anyone doubt she is capable of that? And those bought subscribers? What good are they if her views don't increase?

[retiredrn70]

Aph's hair is sooo thin! Compared to older vlogs there's almost nothing left...

I really think TT reads this forum. In their new years eve video she mentioned that she takes care of the children off camera, but she can't do it on camera, because she needs to film. We've been talking about how the older children do everything and she does nothing and suddenly she feels the need to talk about it in her vlog, so yeah I think she might be reading on here.

How strange that she keeps mentioning cleopatra's "piano hands". If she's that good why doesn't she ever pay anything on youtube. TT never passes up any opportunity to make her children and by extension herself, look good. If cleopatra is really all that skilled and is even a piano teacher, why not have her play on camera? Makes you wonder if her piano skills are as good as the many languages she allegedly speaks, which would be just finish and english, because in my book, introducing yourself in a different language, doesn't equate to speaking it.

I don't know why, but cleopatra and omega really irk me the most out of all of the children. I think all of them, except for cleopatra and sometimes omega, are sweet. She is just so annoyingly like her mother it's uncanny. I also hate how she brags about learning a bunch of languages and than can't say anything but an introduction. Same with her hair dressing skills, when she cut the smaller ones hair, she sectioned the hair like a total beginner, she looked like she never even cut hair before. Just like the alleged piano skills, I'm not even sure anymore if she can pay at all, or if it's only that one piece she played on camera that she can actually play.
She just seems like a 20 year old mommas girl to me, that doesn't want to grow up, move out and be responsible for herself.

I'm sorry if I was harsh, but it's honestly how I feel about the whole situation.

I still don't think she cares for those kids. Why would they all have a partner? And without even knowing and just looking at old fotos and vids and even how things still are it is obvious who belongs to who. I don' t trust one single thing that woman says. Cleopatra is a mini me of Tania and I suppose that is by design and even Nef knows how work the camera. lololol now Aph- she wouldnt lower herself to flirt with the camera--way beneath her.
But Cleo is indeed her mommys kid. And I dont believe any of them have any special skills. Wouldn't she be showing them off continually? Hey I know 4 languages myself. Well- I can count to 10 in them and say how are you? Does that count?

[retiredrn70]

Perhaps they are delaying their move to Australia because of the fires?


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They only fires TT should worry about is the one where her pants are on fire.

[Youngiia]

Anyone feel gutted for KJ. It's his Birthday and it's all about Omega. I had a little spark of happiness for him when Taina chased King James and then filming was all over Omega. Kids paid more attention to Omega and just ignored KJ.

Omega is the golden child now. KJ is used to being 3rd wheel or just plain overlooked. Sweet little guy just accepts and "shakes it off". This stupid breakdancing stuff!!!!! KJ is every bit as good as Aph but all TT spoke about was Aph. KJ always has the oddest look when TT talks to him or asks him something. It is like he cant believe she is talking to him. Yep- no Buzz costume for KJ. No books or puzzles or cars or monster trucks. And the whole dang family is bad about worshipping Omega tho TT is the worst. I know now to overlook any vid with birthdays as it will be full of singing happy birthday and lighting candles 200 times and filming of Omega. Like another member on here- I wish I liked him. What kind of a monster doesnt like a child? I feel bad but it is the truth. I bet she breastfeeds that kid til he is 7 or 8 just to keep control of him and I think that is what it is all about. In this case kind of good though as he looks healthier than any of the other children. TT- if you are reading this and I hope you are--I have a suggestion. Make a youtube channel just about Omega. He is such a magical child I am sure his followers would exceed your current channel. Now-- forum members--a fun question--just for the heck of it. If you HAD to care for 2 of the littles and 1 of the not littles for a week--which you would pick?
I would pick KJ and APH and Darty. Now post your preferences. Mine are because KJ is a sweet boy who doesnt get enough attention and APH is just a laugh a minute and much better behaved than a yr ago. And she and KJ might not fight as much as another combo. Darty cause again- He is a sweetie and underrated and needs attention.

I would would want to baby sit the same ones!

[chocolatelover711]

I found the New Year's Eve video strange. All of the footage of buying fireworks and then we never see them? All of the footage setting up the hot tub and then we never see them use it? And the part where she mentioned that normally they don't wear black suits in the sauna. . . so they wear nothing at all? All of them half naked or naked in there together?? Maybe she meant that they are all in towels? Hope so.

[Ashley18032]

Anyone feel gutted for KJ. It's his Birthday and it's all about Omega. I had a little spark of happiness for him when Taina chased King James and then filming was all over Omega. Kids paid more attention to Omega and just ignored KJ.

Omega is the golden child now. KJ is used to being 3rd wheel or just plain overlooked. Sweet little guy just accepts and "shakes it off". This stupid breakdancing stuff!!!!! KJ is every bit as good as Aph but all TT spoke about was Aph. KJ always has the oddest look when TT talks to him or asks him something. It is like he cant believe she is talking to him. Yep- no Buzz costume for KJ. No books or puzzles or cars or monster trucks. And the whole dang family is bad about worshipping Omega tho TT is the worst. I know now to overlook any vid with birthdays as it will be full of singing happy birthday and lighting candles 200 times and filming of Omega. Like another member on here- I wish I liked him. What kind of a monster doesnt like a child? I feel bad but it is the truth. I bet she breastfeeds that kid til he is 7 or 8 just to keep control of him and I think that is what it is all about. In this case kind of good though as he looks healthier than any of the other children. TT- if you are reading this and I hope you are--I have a suggestion. Make a youtube channel just about Omega. He is such a magical child I am sure his followers would exceed your current channel. Now-- forum members--a fun question--just for the heck of it. If you HAD to care for 2 of the littles and 1 of the not littles for a week--which you would pick?
I would pick KJ and APH and Darty. Now post your preferences. Mine are because KJ is a sweet boy who doesnt get enough attention and APH is just a laugh a minute and much better behaved than a yr ago. And she and KJ might not fight as much as another combo. Darty cause again- He is a sweetie and underrated and needs attention.

I would go the opposite! I would take the nightmare Cleo and make sure she understands she needs to get a job and get her shit together! Then Nefertiti is going STRAIGHT to the dentist! She will have to act appropriate and not deathly craving acceptance! She needs to sit when appropriate speak articulately, I have all day to have her repeat each syllable properly! We will have Omega eating meals no “Boobies” whatsoever! Strict time outs immediately following any and all behavior we see from these lovely treasures in the vlogs! This Nurse Practitioner is taking ALL those kids straight to the Internist, dentist, dietician, Jerusalem will have his arm X-Rayed since she haphazardly cut off his cast and never had it evaluated again. At which point if it is improper it will be re-broken under anesthesia and reset properly! The haircuts will be properly groomed and socially acceptable. These are human beings and they will likely gain 30lbs each in my care. Aphrodite will be taken to an orthopedic surgeon to address her bowed legs! Those legs regardless of their BS “cannot diagnose anything rules” yeah... IDC the child has TEXTBOOK RICKETS! TT don’t worry gorgeous princess butterfly bride babydoll sugar tits whatever your full name is you’ll be going straight to the psychiatry department to address your dual diagnoses, concerning the obsessive compulsive behaviors, the orthorexia/anorexia/bulemia issues, the histrionic and narcissistic traits. Leonardo will be taken to psychiatry to properly adjust to life on his own and managing his depression. KJ and Aph will need therapeutic conditioning for their display of reactive attachment disorder due to being immediately replaced before a newborn puppy would be taken from their mother and thrown to the wolves because she was more worried about obtaining exactly 10 before Paul’s sperm count was zero and her body refused to support another pregnancy due to her low weight likely not allowing Menstruation. I am so sorry if I broke rules or whatever I honestly don’t give a shit ban me do whatever I can make another profile if need be I could not care less I am praying to GOD whatever, one is of her choosing other than her self worshiping that TT reads this and understands I am sincerely a licensed professional petrified for the welfare of your family! You are truly a piece of work TT. Good luck and if you need help looking for care coordination you’re welcome to contact me so I can assist you. Don’t worry you don’t have to make the children play the violin for peanuts, my two cents was free!


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[Ashley18032]

Perhaps they are delaying their move to Australia because of the fires?


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They only fires TT should worry about is the one where her pants are on fire.

I cackled so loud! I hope she takes a break from all the Botox and filler injections so that she saves up money for the nose job she will need when Pinocchio’s nose is larger than her ego! I will start only referring to her as Pinocchio from now on!


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[Dru55]

I watched some of NYE vlog and skimmed the rest. She really needs to re think what and how she films. They are just so boring. Why does she constantly have to say 'are you having fun', are they yummy? And constantly mention they are vegan. She should look at other channels similar to hers and see what they film.
As for Australia, I wouldn't be surprised if they have delayed their trip, but on the other hand what with her strange timeline, that NYE vlog could be a year old and they are already in Australia.

[theoddmacabre]

Has anyone seen the Gretel and Hansel trailer? I can't help but be an ass and suggest that the witch slightly resembles TT... i think its just the face... or how she speaks.... no? Okay ill be quiet... lol

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