Phil and Alex: Struggling With Maternity After Laboring For Eternity | Part 10

[131618]

So Alex keeps making it a point to say Cassidy is running a marathon while other babies are sitting by the pool. She says that feeding is exhausting for her, which I def believe is true for a cardiac baby.... maybe this isn’t a valid concern but if the energy output to feed is too much for them, wouldn’t sucking on a paci be just as exhausting to the baby which is non-nutritive so it’s basically just expending energy with no real benefit?

It's more of a fine line. I'm thinking the milk/reflex causes pain so there for with milk in her mouth she will freak out. Both of my kids had silent reflex. My oldest it resulted in them wanting to eat all the time. My youngest would arch and scream as soon as they realized milk was in their mouth. Now mine weren't cardiac but the sucking soothed the feeling but in youngest newborn brain milk caused pain. We switched formulas to finally get it figured out for my kid and added meds.

But I do have to say her whole rant about feeding a baby on their side is ironic since they seem to just set the pump to tube feed Unicorn and lay her flat on the floor. Not even a little upright in her bouncy set or hell holding her and bonding.

No this isn’t regarding the reflux. My question is regarding cardiac babies bodies working harder/expending more energy on every day tasks. This was something Alex talked about before reflux was ever talked about.

I guess I thought it was digestion but I could be totally off base. Imo, Cassidy seems to give a lot of hunger cues and while being faced with this particular issue, I wouldn't personally be giving the paci so much.... and I agree with a previous post about lying her flat - just seems a bit bizarre how they seem to be acting like newbies when they've done this twice. Its not hard to look up/learn how to handle some of these things

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[DarthMama]

So Alex keeps making it a point to say Cassidy is running a marathon while other babies are sitting by the pool. She says that feeding is exhausting for her, which I def believe is true for a cardiac baby.... maybe this isn’t a valid concern but if the energy output to feed is too much for them, wouldn’t sucking on a paci be just as exhausting to the baby which is non-nutritive so it’s basically just expending energy with no real benefit?

It's more of a fine line. I'm thinking the milk/reflex causes pain so there for with milk in her mouth she will freak out. Both of my kids had silent reflex. My oldest it resulted in them wanting to eat all the time. My youngest would arch and scream as soon as they realized milk was in their mouth. Now mine weren't cardiac but the sucking soothed the feeling but in youngest newborn brain milk caused pain. We switched formulas to finally get it figured out for my kid and added meds.

But I do have to say her whole rant about feeding a baby on their side is ironic since they seem to just set the pump to tube feed Unicorn and lay her flat on the floor. Not even a little upright in her bouncy set or hell holding her and bonding.

No this isn’t regarding the reflux. My question is regarding cardiac babies bodies working harder/expending more energy on every day tasks. This was something Alex talked about before reflux was ever talked about.

They are but I'm sure Cassy is sucking because it feels good. Also doctors don't want them to loose the sucking. I have a friend who's son is a cardiac baby. He had a G tube in his stomach till he was 5 because he had major swallow issues because his path was similar to Caddy. But my friend didn't like pacifiers so he lost his sucking reflex. I get her wanting to make eating enjoyable for Cassy and not an avoidance.

[boredonthekeyboard]

These people are so full of shit.

First of all, Alex’s baby is freaking starving, but Alex is going to sit there giving a lesson on bottle feeding. She says she is paying attention to Cassidy’s reaction to the bottle to see if she’s still hungry. “She took 1/2 an ounce. That‘a good.” No, it isn’t... also, Dr. Browns makes smaller 4-oz bottles which she could use til probably 5 months old instead of those giant ones. “I’m so fortunate that I am very educated on infant feeding.” Sure you are, Alex. Sure you are. She is like, “I’m introducing the bottle, but we’re getting it.” She is so ashamed and embarrassed that nursing just isn’t cutting it. <<My LO will turn 1 next week and I have pumped for him for almost a year. It’s been a PITA at times and it is a huge commitment, but Alex acts like she’s the only person who has ever done it or that it is less than.>>

Second, they have so much crap at the hospital. Gee, I don’t know... bring a freaking cardboard box, Phil? Oh, but let’s carefully place our package of Pampers diapers in front of the camera so maybe they’ll sponsor us! I wonder if anything blew out while they were driving down the highway. There goes Kinsley... it’s okay; she was only a placeholder. (I think Kinsley is a precious, amazing, little girl and she deserves so much better than to be treated like a place holder for Alex!)


Third, the comments are turned off again. Surprise, surprise. They turned on the comments only for the magical birth blog and then turned them off again as soon as she started receiving criticism for how she is feeding the baby.

[In the middle]

I stopped watching the vlogs after the 12,000 hour labour saga that needed umpteen vlog episodes to get through it. But from what I can tell from insta and from here, she’s skipped Cassidy from 2 weeks to 6 weeks - so a month of footage not vlogged. Why not Alex? What are you hiding??

[kerenkrazyeyes]

The fact that she changed the NG tube herself is so messed up. What if she fucked it up?? She should have asked the doctors who inserted it if they could use a smaller tube, not wait until she's home and secretly change it.

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[DarthMama]

I stopped watching the vlogs after the 12,000 hour labour saga that needed umpteen vlog episodes to get through it. But from what I can tell from insta and from here, she’s skipped Cassidy from 2 weeks to 6 weeks - so a month of footage not vlogged. Why not Alex? What are you hiding??

Most likely hid the fact her ass sat in bed for 4 weeks sleeping while her parents were taking care of the place holders and Philip took care of unicorn.

[Tiger27]

The fact that she changed the NG tube herself is so messed up. What if she fucked it up?? She should have asked the doctors who inserted it if they could use a smaller tube, not wait until she's home and secretly change it.

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She literally requested the smaller tube from her home nursing company and they gave it to her. She didn’t buy it off the internet and do it in secret. As I’ve mentioned before, parents are taught and totally allowed to replace NG tubes at home by themselves. There are simple steps to check placement. It’s a relatively easy thing to do. Ex. Acacia Kersey learning how to place it just a few days ago, and she has zero medical experience. The size also doesn’t affect the rate of a pump feed at all, as you set the rate of the feed to whatever you want. Sure there’s probably a max rate based on the tube, but the hospital had feeds going over two hours, so length of the feeds obviously isn’t a concern. Alex said she was gagging and spitting up a ton. A smaller tube seems like a completely reasonable step to minimize some of that. They’re trying to prevent oral aversion, which is a worthy cause. Worst case scenario, she could continue to not eat by mouth, get a permanent g-tube, and not learn to eat by mouth until she 2-5 as many with oral aversion experience. [IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202007 ... 4b9993.jpg[/IMG]


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[warriors15]

Holy wow. I haven’t been watching the vlogs lately but just watched the new feeding tube vlog. Why was Alex rushing Phil so much? Why was Phil not actually watching Alex explain, and instead staring into the camera? Why was Alex the WORST at explaining how to set up the feed? If that’s how she tries to teach the girls (who are we kidding, it’s probably exactly how she acts!), I feel so bad for them and would never want Alex to teach me anything.

Also did you see how pissed Alex was when Phil said Precious Bio Child suddenly forgot how to breast feed??


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[LucyDiamond]

I don’t usually watch them. I mostly just follow this thread and their Instagram. Watched to see this and Oh my STARS (hahaha) she was SO quick to correct Phil. It’s ALL food by mouth she won’t take. It’s also weird that she said as soon as the bottle (pause) nursing or pacifier. She can’t even say breast? WTF kind of nurse was she? How did she help nursing moms if she can’t say the word breast?

Holy wow. I haven’t been watching the vlogs lately but just watched the new feeding tube vlog. Why was Alex rushing Phil so much? Why was Phil not actually watching Alex explain, and instead staring into the camera? Why was Alex the WORST at explaining how to set up the feed? If that’s how she tries to teach the girls (who are we kidding, it’s probably exactly how she acts!), I feel so bad for them and would never want Alex to teach me anything.

Also did you see how pissed Alex was when Phil said Precious Bio Child suddenly forgot how to breast feed??


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[mg1978]

Wouldn't it be worth a try to feed Cassidy formula thru the NG tube just to see if she can tolerate it better ?? Or is Cassidys condition going to make her spit up no matter what ?

[mg1978]

Wouldn't it be worth a try to feed Cassidy formula thru the NG tube just to see if she can tolerate it better ?? Or is Cassidys condition going to make her spit up no matter what ?

[JeasicaA71184]

Wouldn't it be worth a try to feed Cassidy formula thru the NG tube just to see if she can tolerate it better ?? Or is Cassidys condition going to make her spit up no matter what ?

I’d like to know what her beef is with formula and her obsession with breastfeeding is? It’s weird

[boredonthekeyboard]

Wouldn't it be worth a try to feed Cassidy formula thru the NG tube just to see if she can tolerate it better ?? Or is Cassidys condition going to make her spit up no matter what ?

I’d like to know what her beef is with formula and her obsession with breastfeeding is? It’s weird

I don’t think it’s weird. She has a very poorly baby during a pandemic. Breast milk is full of antibodies and extra nutrition that formula just doesn’t have.

[DarthMama]

Wouldn't it be worth a try to feed Cassidy formula thru the NG tube just to see if she can tolerate it better ?? Or is Cassidys condition going to make her spit up no matter what ?

I’d like to know what her beef is with formula and her obsession with breastfeeding is? It’s weird

I don’t think it’s weird. She has a very poorly baby during a pandemic. Breast milk is full of antibodies and extra nutrition that formula just doesn’t have.

Regardless when the kid was born and illness or not, she was going to be obsessed with breastfeeding. Anything but would put a damper in her crunchy granola made up life.

[131618]

Wouldn't it be worth a try to feed Cassidy formula thru the NG tube just to see if she can tolerate it better ?? Or is Cassidys condition going to make her spit up no matter what ?

I’d like to know what her beef is with formula and her obsession with breastfeeding is? It’s weird

I don’t think it’s weird. She has a very poorly baby during a pandemic. Breast milk is full of antibodies and extra nutrition that formula just doesn’t have.

That's definitely true....you'd just think that the next step logically would be formula to help reflux babies. Idk we've always played things by ear with our kids so I don't quite understand the resolute stance for one route or another

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[Dani_465]

Anyone else notice how messy their house is? The kitchen especially

[JeasicaA71184]

Wouldn't it be worth a try to feed Cassidy formula thru the NG tube just to see if she can tolerate it better ?? Or is Cassidys condition going to make her spit up no matter what ?

I’d like to know what her beef is with formula and her obsession with breastfeeding is? It’s weird

I don’t think it’s weird. She has a very poorly baby during a pandemic. Breast milk is full of antibodies and extra nutrition that formula just doesn’t have.
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Yeah I don’t think so. She was fucking starving her child.

[saltybitters]

You'd think as a nurse she would understand what a miracle modern formula was when it hit the market for families. Her obsession with breastfeeding has to be connected to her feelings of inadequacy regarding her body and abilities (can't get pregnant, can't give birth, now can't feed her baby with her breasts, etc). It reeks of insecurity.

[RiverRose]

Anyone else notice how messy their house is? The kitchen especially

Yikes. I looked at the first picture and thought, "Oh, give them a break. They have three young children including a newborn." But then I saw the kitchen picture. I don't think it's the end of the world to have clutter but that's a lot more than clutter....

[JeasicaA71184]

You'd think as a nurse she would understand what a miracle modern formula was when it hit the market for families. Her obsession with breastfeeding has to be connected to her feelings of inadequacy regarding her body and abilities (can't get pregnant, can't give birth, now can't feed her baby with her breasts, etc). It reeks of insecurity.

I’m going to get shit for saying this probably but it’s such a common weird obsession in the infertility adoption world. There are literal groups called “adoptive breastfeeding.” It’s fucking weird.

Anyways yeah anyone who can sit on here and make excuses for her obsession with breastmilk right now is as sick as her