Gardner Quad Squad

[Sammy16]

They said to anticipate an announcement soon about their new TLC deal. How are they getting another show?!?! Their lives are sooooo boring. They're so boring I'm even running out of things to snark about lol.

[twomommies]

How can they do a season 2?! Outdaughtered is MUCH better IMO

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They are boring, but they sure know how to put on a show when they want to.

In one of their latest vlogs, Ashley was just sitting on the couch just fiddling with her phone in the background while all the girls played around her. She was giving them absolutely no attention at all. Then as soon as a local film crew came into the room she jumped up and was all over it. Miss Personality!

It makes me wonder what she is like when they aren't filming anything at all. I suspect that all her high pitched screaming and hyper-activity with the girls only happens when there is a camera around. Tyson actually looked annoyed with her, but it was obvious that he was holding it in because of the camera.

If there is a second season being dangled in front of them, then rest assured they will rise up and take the bait .. and perform beautifully. Those poor babies being used in this way.

[Sammy16]

They are boring, but they sure know how to put on a show when they want to.

In one of their latest vlogs, Ashley was just sitting on the couch just fiddling with her phone in the background while all the girls played around her. She was giving them absolutely no attention at all. Then as soon as a local film crew came into the room she jumped up and was all over it. Miss Personality!

It makes me wonder what she is like when they aren't filming anything at all. I suspect that all her high pitched screaming and hyper-activity with the girls only happens when there is a camera around. Tyson actually looked annoyed with her, but it was obvious that he was holding it in because of the camera.

If there is a second season being dangled in front of them, then rest assured they will rise up and take the bait .. and perform beautifully. Those poor babies being used in this way.

I noticed that too! I had to take screenshots because it's clear proof of everything we've been saying all along. You can tell how much she interacts with them by how much they prefer Tyson over her. I've said it before and I'll say it again- Tyson is a good house husband. He's the one that should be sleeping in and getting breakfast in bed but instead Ashley is throwing cold water on him in the shower and locking him out of the house. I know they've said they "prank" each other but she shows zero appreciation for him. Yes, he does the creepy giggle all the time, but he is so much more genuine than Ashley. He always thanks the minions and rarely plugs any products or pushes for subscribers and you can tell he just loves those girls to death. Ashley seems to treat them a little more like accessories or props.

Another note on the girls' diet/meals (this makes me really sad): They mentioned the girls went through 4 cans of vienna sausages for lunch today. That would equal 1 CAN of SAUSAGES per baby. I don't even know where to begin. Besides the fact that they're feeding their babies canned meat (I won't even mention how or what these disgusting things are made of), the amount of sodium they're consuming is astronomical. I had some spare time so I looked it up: each can has 993 mg of sodium, 98 mg of cholesterol, and 22 g of fat. That's nearly the amount of sodium in a Big Mac and each can has more cholesterol than a Big Mac. That's pathetic for 2 stay-at-home parents with endless amounts of help to feed their babies on a regular basis. Perhaps they need more substantial meals if they're each eating an entire can of waterlogged sausages.

Here are the screenshots I was talking about in case anyone stopped watching the vlogs! Regular Ashley and Ashley for the camera...

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Thank you for putting those photos up. They say it all, don't they? She is all for show, but when no one else is around she just seems to ignore those girls and have "ashley tie". She seems to always be the one to be sleeping in and taking off to do her own activities. I cannot stand her!!

I noticed that about their lunch today too. A whole can of processed sausages each? Insane! Anything that comes in a can isn't as good as something that is fresh as far as I'm concerned and they feed them canned food a LOT of the time! Their diets are really bad, but looking at what Tyson and Ashley eat it really isn't surprising. Those girls are heading for obesity just like their father's siblings. Their Aunt Madison and several of his brothers (as well as his mother) are very overweight. Tyson was scoffing yet another soda drink today in spite of the fact that he said he is trying to cut down. I haven't spotted any doughnuts since the car seat debate though, so that is a good things ... although I suspect that they are just not mentioned the "doughnut runs" because of the car seats. I'm sure that they are still going on. The babies were eating carrot cake today too. Tyson seems bigger than ever and I notice that the slightest bit of activity makes him wheeze. just walking around the house makes him short of breath.

As I've said before, I would have thought that nutrition would have been very important to them considering the fact that they were preemies and would have had a rough first year, health wise. They just don't seem to care what they eat.

If only they cared about what they eat instead of how they look. All those constant new outfits and hairstyles ... please give me a break!! There are more important things in life. Ashley is forever going on about their looks, outfits and hairstyles. She is obsessed with it all. Give some thought to your daughters' health instead for pity's sake!

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just watched their latest vlog. Ashley's day consisted of sleeping in, getting a massage, having her hair done and going to a concert. What a life! and she has the hide to brag about it on YouTube. She is shameless.

I absolutely hate the way that Ashley smirks at the camera and makes what she obviously thinks are cute faces. She pouts, rolls her eyes and give that stupid open-mouthed grin that just looks so stupid. I wish she would stop it as it is really annoying. I just want to slap her!

[zipadeedodah]

They fed those babies Vienna sausages?! Those things are so disgusting! It's a really good thing I've never watched their channel. My comments wouldn't be so friendly!!


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they say that the sausages are their favourite food. They eat all sorts of rubbish, so I'm sure they are going to have health problems in the future because of it. Their father is constantly out of breath with the slightest exertion and I'm sure that is because of all the rubbish he eats and the extra weight he is carrying.

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Ashley is pathetic when she is sick.

[Sammy16]

Ashley is pathetic when she is sick.

Oh I knowwwwww! That "cute" little pouty face she does makes my skin crawl. There's nothing cute about those deep wrinkles, girl! I'm starting to wonder about the girls' speech development. They all say mama and dada but is that all? They boast about how the girls are so advanced but even at their adjusted age they should have a few more words than that. They're still teaching them sign language which is great, but at this point the girls could be taught to actually say the words more and please instead of signing. They don't have them using/practicing with utensils while they eat either. I also just realized they stopped talking about breaking the girls' habit of going to bed with a bottle of milk! I watched the end of today's vlog because I remember seeing a bunch of old milk bottles on the dresser and when they were saying goodnight, you can hear Tyson in the background say "here's your baba!" Seems they gave up on that. I guess the risk of bottle rot is more convenient than a few nights of struggling with crying babies. So sad and pathetic.

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I think that they often give up on things (bottles, carseats, teeth-cleaning etc) and just make a point of never mentioning them again rather than coming clean and admitting that they aren't following through. Typical of their sneaky behaviour and lying attitude.

They've got Ezzy at a birthday party and on a swing for the FIRST time in her life!! How pathetic is that? That poor child has never been on a swing before.

I've noticed that with their food too. They hardly ever give them anything on a spoon, let alone hand the poor girls a spoon of their own to practise with. Instead it is all finger food. Picking up chicken, sausages etc the way they do is gross. How are they ever going to learn to use cutlery if they don't let them practise?

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That trip to the blanket shop was absolutely disgusting!! They let those girls just destroy that shop and never once uttered the word "no". If I was the shopkeeper I would have ordered them out. How dare they? Those girls are naughty and need to be disciplined before they get worse. They act like they are doing everyone favours with those codes too. All they are doing is getting yet more free blankets with them. how many blankets does one family need? They have to have new ones for the new season?? What?

Ashley is going away (when the girls are all sick) and leaving Tyson with them yet again for the whole weekend. She is one selfish woman!

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Well Ashley has now come home and not one of the girls looked the least bit interested in seeing her. LOL Tyson had his family with him constantly during the weekend, so he didn't exactly look after the girls by himself.

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Dear God!! How many times can they post photos of the girls in those swimming costumes? And how many times can they advertise their stupid grab bags? their Facebook page is fast becoming one advertisement after another.

[Bayareamom]

I cannot believe I found this forum today! I thought I was the only one who had similar complaints about this family. When I first found out about Tyson and Ashley, I thought they were a really sweet couple. Something about them seemed endearing to me. When they finally had their quads, I happened to find their video on one of my feeds, so I checked it out. This was when the girls were just a few months old. The first thing that jumped out at me was Ashley cringe-worthy voice; I swear, like nails on a chalkboard. The other thing that jumped out at me was that Tyson seemed like such a good dad. Not perfect (no one is), but a good one. But then, as the girls got older, I became more critical. I couldn't believe it when I saw Ashley standing in a grocery store, with her hand out holding her camera phone, asking her 'fans' what she should feed her kids.

I told my husband that this girl probably doesn't cook much (at that time, it hadn't yet been admitted by Ashley on camera that she can't cook). So yup, turns out, she's not a cook - no real surprise there. But then when the girls were starting to eat real people food, I absolutely could not believe what they were feeding them! JUNK! And lots of it. And just like one of the other comments here, I checked out the nutritional information on those canned sausages and I literally could not believe that they'd given those precious babes FOUR CANS of that stuff during one meal.

And don't get me started on the doughnuts. It's one thing for an adult to eat that way, but to give it to a baby? In all fairness, I have seen when they do feed the girls fruit, veggies and an otherwise odd assortment of somewhat nutritious food, but I gag at the recipes that they've advertised on their blog. Have these two never, ever checked out proper nutrition? I'm not someone that's going to chastise someone if they don't eat all organic, or if they eat meat, but my goodness. Their eating habits are absolutely atrocious. And sorry - but chubby babies does NOT equal HEALTHY babies.

...and they are sick all. the. time. If it's not ear infections (with loads of antibiotics, which isn't good), it's constant runny/drippy noses, the flu, etc.

Last but not least: I have but one son, who now is grown. But I never had the amount of help Ashley and Tyson have had. Granted, they have four all the same age, and yes, that's a handful, but Ashley has had more days off (and mornings off) than any other mom I have ever heard of. I completely agree with those of you who have noticed that Ashley doesn't seem to do much around the house, but sit around, film the girls, make silly faces, and on the occasion, a meal for her girls. And for pity's sake, cook up some scrambled eggs once in awhile and some good old fashioned ONE DISH CASSEROLES (healthy) for the girls. They have plenty of time to cook healthy meals and hey - you can freeze the left-overs and simply re-heat the next day.

I have unsubscribed from their channel. I am not a hater, but I see so many things that make me cringe whenever I watch them, I can't do it any longer. Just glad I found a place to vent. I won't be doing that often, I have other things that take up my time, but am grateful I have found that I'm not the only one who has had some of these issues with this family. So thanks for letting me vent!

[Bayareamom]

One more thing (as long as I'm in venting mode) - about their need for a larger home. I can certainly understand their need for a larger home, if not necessarily a larger home, but perhaps a home with a different layout. One perhaps that's just a single story with a different and more open, floor plan. But having said that, I, too, have wondered why they couldn't just re-do that one upstairs (guest bedroom) and use that for an office space? I have never noticed during all the time I've been viewing them that they've actually USED that room as a guest room for anyone. That room could/would make a great office for Tyson and hence, clear up some of that space downstairs that they're using now. For heaven's sake, they have enough helpers who come over and certainly some of those folks could perhaps help them re-organize their space and make things a bit more comfortable for them.

And lastly, one other thing that bothered me (and I see it has with others here, too), is their parenting. They are definitely a loving family, albeit with flaws just as anyone else. During one vlog, quite awhile ago, one of the two twins (Scarlett or Evie), runs into the other and as she's doing so, she literally pushes her twin out of the way. One of the parents, can't remember which one, saw that happen, and openly laughed. Thought it was funny. I don't think that's appropriate. Those little darlings are not too young to start learning appropriate and considerate behavior (considering age limits, of course). Teaching a child that age that it is not appropriate to hit, push over/push down anyone, much less one's sibling, is something which needs to be taught. EMPATHY needs to be taught and they can certainly start at this age as well.

I like the sharing attitude I've seen with one of the twins, but that can be further extended so as each girl learns how to hug one another and how to be KIND to one another. I was telling my husband the other day that perhaps because Tyson grew up in a household with so many kids is the reason he's got this rough and tumble attitude as a dad. In fact, I'd be willing to wager that's partly why he's like this. And while I can understand that when one grows up in a rough and tumble sort of background and you need to stand up for yourself, there's also a balancing act and one also needs to learn consideration and respect for others.

Which brings me to the bull in the china shop situation when they were in that blanket store the other week. If I had been one of those shop owners, I would have been LIVID with the behavior. When I and my sister were this age, my mom had already taught us that we were NOT to touch or grab anything in anyone else's home, or anyone else, unless we had permission to do so. Ultimately, when the two of us were already the ages of these young babes, we knew to not touch and/or throw things in any store we may have been in, or in any home we were visiting. Those little ones are old enough to start learning that that behavior is not appropriate, but there was Tyson, saying, "Aw. They're just trying to help." NO, Tyson, they're not helping - they are incorrigible and need to be taught appropriate behavior. That poor store was in chaos when they left.

It's kind of sad, really. I really did like this couple and maybe they're better parents than a lot of folks out there, but still. The writing is already on the wall for this family if they don't clean up some things (and I don't just mean their house). They're a sweet couple in some ways, but Ashley's overbearing attitude, her lack of common sense, her baby talk and their atrocious diets are going to catch up with them sooner than later (if it hasn't already). I cannot tell you how many times I have been watching their vlog and something happens and I'm left screaming at my computer for one of them to DROP the camera and just tend to those little girls. Those poor babes have a camera in their faces the first thing in the morning when they wake up, until the last thing they do before they go to sleep. I read, awhile ago, one mom of multiples how was vitriolic with her dislike for this couple and at the time, I thought she was a bit over the top.

I no longer feel she was. I just hope this couple will perhaps read some of the criticism out there and re-think some stuff. I really do feel sorry for those little girls.

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Well written and VERY true!! I agree with all you've said. Vent away .... it will make you feel much better after watching those videos. I know it helps for me.

[Bayareamom]

Thanks for the warm welcome! Checked the forum out this morning just to see if there was any feedback (couldn't help myself ), so was glad to see your post.

I'm actually going to try refraining from any other viewing of their vlog (yeah, right). I get SO upset when I watch them anymore, that it's just not worth it. I realize we all have our flaws (Lord knows I do), and that we're all on our various learning curves with life, but my big beef (being an older mom now) is this whole social media thing and what it's doing to our kids. I have read more than a few blogs about the issues some parents are having with their kids regarding texting versus real face-to-face encounters with their peers. Some of these kids, I have read, are SO afraid to even speak on the phone with their peers! They would much rather text. I find that appalling and very sad. The lack of social skills is looming in some of these younger kids and that bothers me. Some kids are born with more empathy than others; some, therefore, need to LEARN how to empathize with their fellow human being, but when I look at the Gardners, I can certainly see where some of this has already happened with their generation. It's like some sort of spark plug is missing somewhere, with these two. I have watched very closely whenever any of their family members are in their vlog and I've wondered what's really going on behind closed doors when cameras are off.

Ashley seems to really NEED (desperately so) ATTENTION. Everything's about HER. I think Tyson is so taken with her attractiveness that he's willing to overlook a lot of issues with her behavior. She TRIES too hard; that has to come from somewhere. And that little girl baby voice is jaw clenching. Where the heck did that come from? I actually see Tyson as the better parent and am already seeing what may potentially be some issues down the road with him and the girls versus Ashley's abilities to connect with her daughters on a deeper level. Ashley's all about the SHOW; her kids have become nothing more than props. I'm not at all saying she doesn't love them - I feel she does - but she has a warped perspective on BOUNDARIES in that home and all Tyson does is fuel that lack of boundaries issue, with her. It's all just so sad.

And last but not least, the hair issue. I can still remember when my mom would make me wear pigtails and rubber bands in my hair. Hurt like HELL. I would get these excruciating headaches because of that. I, too, have extremely curly hair, so I get Ashley's issues with HER hair, but have learned that God gave me what he did and I deal with it (air drying - no mess, no fuss, and it looks great afterwards). Those darling little girls still don't have much hair (the one pair at any rate); all those pig tails do on their heads is exacerbate the issue that there's not much hair yet to play with. A simple hair clip put into place (small baby clips) would be much more effective than putting those girls through the torture of having to have their hair done every day. Plus, just saying - it looks ridiculous on top of it.

I know I'm being nit picky, but I think it's just because I see so much potential with this family and just want to scream at them at times, to utilize some much needed common sense into the picture. These are not evil people; they're good people overall. I can certainly tell how much those little girls are loved. But SOMEONE in that family needs to take those two kids (Ashley/Tyson) and shake them up a bit. Shake some common sense into them.

It may not be my place to say this, but if I were Tyson's mom, I would be telling him to get a job - A REAL JOB. Ashley can certainly find the time to take care of those little girls and she's got plenty of help outside her home to help. I would also tell them, if I were their parent, to get off the gosh darned cell phone cameras and parent those children. Get off their duffs, clean up and organize their home, join some moms/kids play groups, socialize those girls appropriately, and...

...oh I could go on and on.

last, but not least, quit feeding those girls those awful sugary/salty kid snacks every time they scream or cry (if at all). And for gosh sakes, they're not chickens, or pigs on a farm. Quit throwing food all over the place when you're rewarding them with bad behavior. Get them a little table and four chair set; teach them to sit appropriately at the table and provide them with a kid set of eating utensils so they can learn to properly feed themselves. They are now old enough to BE OFF BOTTLES; they can certainly learn to not only use sippy cups at this age all the time, but are now old enough to start learning how to drink from a real cup (preferably plastic). They can learn how to use a spoon, too.

I know they're going to make mistakes, but geesh. It's all just getting to be too much for me to view on a daily basis. I get too worked up with what I see!

..okay, NOW I'm done.

[pllfan5]

OT: I just started watching outdaughtered, and I was wondering if they get as much free things as the Gardners do and what you guys think of them. I like them, they don't seem as money hungry as Tyson and Ashley but I could be wrong

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Is that the Busby family with the little girl and then quint girls? I quite liked what I saw of them. Nothing like Tyson and Ashley at all.