Ellie and Jared: Hide and Seek....guess where Mommy is.....in bed! | Part #128

[Apm1993]

I can't believe I'm even remotely taking up for E&J but I really believe they have money coming in from other places. We know they have rental properties. We know they have some sponsors still (a few, at least) and I believe Jared has done well with stocks, at least day trading.
Unpopular opinion, but they never would've taken their one month hiatus if they weren't set financially. They are way too money hungry and used to their lifestyle to ever give up in the name of "being happy."


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[HelloSweetie]

I can't believe I'm even remotely taking up for E&J but I really believe they have money coming in from other places. We know they have rental properties. We know they have some sponsors still (a few, at least) and I believe Jared has done well with stocks, at least day trading.
Unpopular opinion, but they never would've taken their one month hiatus if they weren't set financially. They are way too money hungry and used to their lifestyle to ever give up in the name of "being happy."


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They don’t have rental properties. They have land that is just sitting there. They have a HUGE mortgage and very little opportunity for non YT income. They have medical bills on the rise, more to come in the future with Jared’s hip, and are TTC.

People who aren’t set financially make so many decisions that make no sense. E&J would just be another pair in an increasing line of YTers taking a break due to denial and anxiety. Is it counterproductive? Yes. Trouble is that it’s depressing and embarrassing to admit you blew a windfall. They all cut back on their content and start trying to save face.

Plus let’s remember...E&J really only made bank for 2-3 years. In that time they purchased the house (which had more money put into it than it sold for), had thousands in medical bills, purchased the Tesla, an RV and the SUV. They also went on countless vacations, purchased two properties with B&J and now the land for St George. To have a $960k mortgage, they should be making at least $160k a year and even this would be stretching most budgeting rules. Is it possible that Jared found a job where he can make $60k a year? Possibly. Is it likely that Ellie is splurging on a home while closely budgeting their other costs? Maybe for the kids, but a woman who boasts about having 70 pairs of shoes isn’t limiting her clothing and makeup spending. Plus Botox and fillers aren’t cheap, and both E&J now get them.

And this is all just assuming they don’t even pay taxes or tithing at all anymore.

My husband and I make far more than people assume because we live in a normal house and drive older (paid off) vehicles. Most of our money is in the bank for our future retirement and our boys’ future. People that don’t have money live more like C&K and E&J than those with actual money do. Just a year ago people were arguing C&K must have money or they wouldn’t be spending. Look how that turned out.....



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[lmmomSD]

And I'm just curious why anyone thinks Jared made a bunch of money day trading. Not saying he hasn't, because I honestly don't know. Just wondering where the idea came from.
Bollie was supposed to be their big money-maker and support them when YT went away. It's pretty obvious from a lot of the decisions made on Bollie that we have actually seen, that they don't have a lot of business sense: flying to NYC to meet with designers and choose buttons (and staying in fancy hotels) when it could be done via videoconferencing, staying in a hotel for their "launch", flying around and doing fancy photo shoots, bad customer service, the trip to China, releasing a fall line in late summer, etc. They may have been raking it in, but they were spending like crazy too.
I'm with HS on this one. I think they're going to be in big financial trouble soon. DB was making more than them and they are living in a used RV.
And Ellie doesn't stop to think where the money is coming from. She "deserves" this lifestyle, and it's up to Jared to provide it for her. Remember, she's the one who said they would have built the Ice Palace with or without YT. What Ellie wants, Ellie gets. Just like with Jackson. It didn't matter that they were living on potatoes or dinner have enough money for gas. She wanted a baby. So off to the infertility doc she went.

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[YTIG60]

Jared went to a job interview wearing khaki shorts/T-shirt and after years of being on social media, didn't know how Linkedin worked. I think they've adopted the attitude you don't have to work hard to spend a lot of money. I don't see this ending well.

@jaredmecham Nov 6, 2020
I have no idea how @LinkedIn works and at this point, I'm too afraid to ask.

[Sickandtired]

And I'm just curious why anyone thinks Jared made a bunch of money day trading. Not saying he hasn't, because I honestly don't know. Just wondering where the idea came from.
Bollie was supposed to be their big money-maker and support them when YT went away. It's pretty obvious from a lot of the decisions made on Bollie that we have actually seen, that they don't have a lot of business sense: flying to NYC to meet with designers and choose buttons (and staying in fancy hotels) when it could be done via videoconferencing, staying in a hotel for their "launch", flying around and doing fancy photo shoots, bad customer service, the trip to China, releasing a fall line in late summer, etc. They may have been raking it in, but they were spending like crazy too.
I'm with HS on this one. I think they're going to be in big financial trouble soon. DB was making more than them and they are living in a used RV.
And Ellie doesn't stop to think where the money is coming from. She "deserves" this lifestyle, and it's up to Jared to provide it for her. Remember, she's the one who said they would have built the Ice Palace with or without YT. What Ellie wants, Ellie gets. Just like with Jackson. It didn't matter that they were living on potatoes or dinner have enough money for gas. She wanted a baby. So off to the infertility doc she went.

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Also remember Ellie said on a Q and A, she would be living this lifestyle with out with out YouTube. She always been that “keeping up with the Jones’”. She also has said numerous times that her skincare and make up is more important then food. She was buying the most expensive skincare products when they were first married and living on tuna sandwiches and potatoes, barely making enough to pay bills, but by golly if Ellie wants 500 dollar skin care, she’s gonna get that 500 dollar skin care. Ellie doesn’t care if money is coming in or not, she is so privileged, she thinks she deserves anything and everything.

[sheltiefan]

I can't believe I'm even remotely taking up for E&J but I really believe they have money coming in from other places. We know they have rental properties. We know they have some sponsors still (a few, at least) and I believe Jared has done well with stocks, at least day trading.
Unpopular opinion, but they never would've taken their one month hiatus if they weren't set financially. They are way too money hungry and used to their lifestyle to ever give up in the name of "being happy."


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They don’t have rental properties. They have land that is just sitting there. They have a HUGE mortgage and very little opportunity for non YT income. They have medical bills on the rise, more to come in the future with Jared’s hip, and are TTC.

People who aren’t set financially make so many decisions that make no sense. E&J would just be another pair in an increasing line of YTers taking a break due to denial and anxiety. Is it counterproductive? Yes. Trouble is that it’s depressing and embarrassing to admit you blew a windfall. They all cut back on their content and start trying to save face.

Plus let’s remember...E&J really only made bank for 2-3 years. In that time they purchased the house (which had more money put into it than it sold for), had thousands in medical bills, purchased the Tesla, an RV and the SUV. They also went on countless vacations, purchased two properties with B&J and now the land for St George. To have a $960k mortgage, they should be making at least $160k a year and even this would be stretching most budgeting rules. Is it possible that Jared found a job where he can make $60k a year? Possibly. Is it likely that Ellie is splurging on a home while closely budgeting their other costs? Maybe for the kids, but a woman who boasts about having 70 pairs of shoes isn’t limiting her clothing and makeup spending. Plus Botox and fillers aren’t cheap, and both E&J now get them.

And this is all just assuming they don’t even pay taxes or tithing at all anymore.

My husband and I make far more than people assume because we live in a normal house and drive older (paid off) vehicles. Most of our money is in the bank for our future retirement and our boys’ future. People that don’t have money live more like C&K and E&J than those with actual money do. Just a year ago people were arguing C&K must have money or they wouldn’t be spending. Look how that turned out.....

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If they don't have any rental property, they lied in the podcast about leaving YT. Plus I think they mentioned some other money making deals not with YT. At Christmas time this past year, Jared did the deals with Best Buy that I would think paid well but it wasn't something he kept doing all the time. I don't know how they are making it with all their expenses

[sheltiefan]

I can't believe I'm even remotely taking up for E&J but I really believe they have money coming in from other places. We know they have rental properties. We know they have some sponsors still (a few, at least) and I believe Jared has done well with stocks, at least day trading.
Unpopular opinion, but they never would've taken their one month hiatus if they weren't set financially. They are way too money hungry and used to their lifestyle to ever give up in the name of "being happy."


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They don’t have rental properties. They have land that is just sitting there. They have a HUGE mortgage and very little opportunity for non YT income. They have medical bills on the rise, more to come in the future with Jared’s hip, and are TTC.

People who aren’t set financially make so many decisions that make no sense. E&J would just be another pair in an increasing line of YTers taking a break due to denial and anxiety. Is it counterproductive? Yes. Trouble is that it’s depressing and embarrassing to admit you blew a windfall. They all cut back on their content and start trying to save face.

Plus let’s remember...E&J really only made bank for 2-3 years. In that time they purchased the house (which had more money put into it than it sold for), had thousands in medical bills, purchased the Tesla, an RV and the SUV. They also went on countless vacations, purchased two properties with B&J and now the land for St George. To have a $960k mortgage, they should be making at least $160k a year and even this would be stretching most budgeting rules. Is it possible that Jared found a job where he can make $60k a year? Possibly. Is it likely that Ellie is splurging on a home while closely budgeting their other costs? Maybe for the kids, but a woman who boasts about having 70 pairs of shoes isn’t limiting her clothing and makeup spending. Plus Botox and fillers aren’t cheap, and both E&J now get them.

And this is all just assuming they don’t even pay taxes or tithing at all anymore.

My husband and I make far more than people assume because we live in a normal house and drive older (paid off) vehicles. Most of our money is in the bank for our future retirement and our boys’ future. People that don’t have money live more like C&K and E&J than those with actual money do. Just a year ago people were arguing C&K must have money or they wouldn’t be spending. Look how that turned out.....

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If they don't have any rental property, they lied in the podcast about leaving YT. Plus I think they mentioned some other money making deals not with YT. At Christmas time this past year, Jared did the deals with Best Buy that I would think paid well but it wasn't something he kept doing all the time. I don't know how they are making it with all their expenses

[Apm1993]

I can't believe I'm even remotely taking up for E&J but I really believe they have money coming in from other places. We know they have rental properties. We know they have some sponsors still (a few, at least) and I believe Jared has done well with stocks, at least day trading.
Unpopular opinion, but they never would've taken their one month hiatus if they weren't set financially. They are way too money hungry and used to their lifestyle to ever give up in the name of "being happy."


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They don’t have rental properties. They have land that is just sitting there. They have a HUGE mortgage and very little opportunity for non YT income. They have medical bills on the rise, more to come in the future with Jared’s hip, and are TTC.

People who aren’t set financially make so many decisions that make no sense. E&J would just be another pair in an increasing line of YTers taking a break due to denial and anxiety. Is it counterproductive? Yes. Trouble is that it’s depressing and embarrassing to admit you blew a windfall. They all cut back on their content and start trying to save face.

Plus let’s remember...E&J really only made bank for 2-3 years. In that time they purchased the house (which had more money put into it than it sold for), had thousands in medical bills, purchased the Tesla, an RV and the SUV. They also went on countless vacations, purchased two properties with B&J and now the land for St George. To have a $960k mortgage, they should be making at least $160k a year and even this would be stretching most budgeting rules. Is it possible that Jared found a job where he can make $60k a year? Possibly. Is it likely that Ellie is splurging on a home while closely budgeting their other costs? Maybe for the kids, but a woman who boasts about having 70 pairs of shoes isn’t limiting her clothing and makeup spending. Plus Botox and fillers aren’t cheap, and both E&J now get them.

And this is all just assuming they don’t even pay taxes or tithing at all anymore.

My husband and I make far more than people assume because we live in a normal house and drive older (paid off) vehicles. Most of our money is in the bank for our future retirement and our boys’ future. People that don’t have money live more like C&K and E&J than those with actual money do. Just a year ago people were arguing C&K must have money or they wouldn’t be spending. Look how that turned out.....

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If they don't have any rental property, they lied in the podcast about leaving YT. Plus I think they mentioned some other money making deals not with YT. At Christmas time this past year, Jared did the deals with Best Buy that I would think paid well but it wasn't something he kept doing all the time. I don't know how they are making it with all their expenses

They do have rental properties. That poster was just wrong in their response.


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[YTIG60]

They do have rental properties. That poster was just wrong in their response.
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I did hear the podcast now they had a rental house they've never talked about. Jared said they prepared to leave YouTube by diversifying in "real estate a little bit." They said they will continue with Bollie, IG and leave vlogging. Ellie + Jared say Goodbye Part 1 - 23:40.
But goodness they are spending a lot of money. Bollie didn't end up what they hoped too.

So they essential left YouTube 1/2020, had other means of income and received a PPP loan for their YouTube channel...that seems shady.

[lmmomSD]

I wonder if that chunk of property that they thought they were going to build on plus a rental house is their idea of "diversifying in real estate".
One rental house is not the same as rental houses plural. And it probably won't support them in the style to which Ellie has become accustomed. I think YT and IG brand deals are the only way Jared can pull off that kind of earning power. It would take a LOT of rental houses to make up their income. And I know I am repeating myself, but what they've shown doesn't indicate a lot of business savvy. I'm one to talk, I know jack about running a business. But I know you don't post reviews of your products claiming to be from Australia, using your own name and location. And you don't launch a fall clothing line late in the summer, or winter clothing in December, etc. Right now, stores have summer items. With all the shopping these women do, you'd think they would at least know that. They bought land to build on without thinking about how to get water. Unless Jared is hiding all of his _good_ business decisions, I don't think he's got that much on the ball.
And Ellie just doesn't care. Look at how haggard Jared looks. That's from trying to keep up with her spending. He looks like he's aged 10 years since Jacksonville was born.

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[Apm1993]

A lot of people tend to underestimate the financial standing of you tubers/influencers. It's not right and it's completely ridiculous but they make more than you would ever think. Also, I don't know jack about running a business or stocks or anything like that, but as soon as I made some unexpected money, I got myself to a financial advisor and the money has continued to multiply just by finding someone trustworthy to listen to. Not every YouTuber is smart enough to do that, but a lot are. I still think E&J (mainly J and probably at the direction of his parents, who have experienced financial hardships) did. Covid really had an effect on new construction loans. Banks are tightening the reigns on qualifications. Kailyn Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley have both discussed this on their podcast, they had to change some things, despite being financially "comfortable." It'd be hard to be building right now without the funds and income to back it up. Jarred knows what Ellie expects and he will kill himself to provide it because he's a doormat and he's afraid of the alternative.


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[HelloSweetie]

They don’t have rental properties. They have land that is just sitting there. They have a HUGE mortgage and very little opportunity for non YT income. They have medical bills on the rise, more to come in the future with Jared’s hip, and are TTC.

People who aren’t set financially make so many decisions that make no sense. E&J would just be another pair in an increasing line of YTers taking a break due to denial and anxiety. Is it counterproductive? Yes. Trouble is that it’s depressing and embarrassing to admit you blew a windfall. They all cut back on their content and start trying to save face.

Plus let’s remember...E&J really only made bank for 2-3 years. In that time they purchased the house (which had more money put into it than it sold for), had thousands in medical bills, purchased the Tesla, an RV and the SUV. They also went on countless vacations, purchased two properties with B&J and now the land for St George. To have a $960k mortgage, they should be making at least $160k a year and even this would be stretching most budgeting rules. Is it possible that Jared found a job where he can make $60k a year? Possibly. Is it likely that Ellie is splurging on a home while closely budgeting their other costs? Maybe for the kids, but a woman who boasts about having 70 pairs of shoes isn’t limiting her clothing and makeup spending. Plus Botox and fillers aren’t cheap, and both E&J now get them.

And this is all just assuming they don’t even pay taxes or tithing at all anymore.

My husband and I make far more than people assume because we live in a normal house and drive older (paid off) vehicles. Most of our money is in the bank for our future retirement and our boys’ future. People that don’t have money live more like C&K and E&J than those with actual money do. Just a year ago people were arguing C&K must have money or they wouldn’t be spending. Look how that turned out.....

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If they don't have any rental property, they lied in the podcast about leaving YT. Plus I think they mentioned some other money making deals not with YT. At Christmas time this past year, Jared did the deals with Best Buy that I would think paid well but it wasn't something he kept doing all the time. I don't know how they are making it with all their expenses

They do have rental properties. That poster was just wrong in their response.


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Nope not wrong. I have their public financial records. Jared has a rental property with his siblings (his parents house), but that’s it.

They don’t have enough rental income to create passive income to support them and a $960k mortgage. My husband and I make $200k a year.... I think people grossly overestimate how far that money should go. I’d never take out a $960k mortgage on ONE HOUSE. If they were making a living off passive income they would be saving that credit for 3 rental houses instead.

At some point you really do need to choose between a luxurious life at retirement or while your kids are young. You can’t have both on $200k a year. If E&J have one rental property and take in $2k rent a month, then that’s still only $24k a year. I don’t get why people are reaching so far to insist E&J have more money than they should. If Bryan and Missy are RVinh to try and get a handle on things, then o guarantee E&J are on an even worse financial position than that.


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[Apm1993]

If they don't have any rental property, they lied in the podcast about leaving YT. Plus I think they mentioned some other money making deals not with YT. At Christmas time this past year, Jared did the deals with Best Buy that I would think paid well but it wasn't something he kept doing all the time. I don't know how they are making it with all their expenses

They do have rental properties. That poster was just wrong in their response.


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Nope not wrong. I have their public financial records. Jared has a rental property with his siblings (his parents house), but that’s it.

They don’t have enough rental income to create passive income to support them and a $960k mortgage. My husband and I make $200k a year.... I think people grossly overestimate how far that money should go. I’d never take out a $960k mortgage on ONE HOUSE. If they were making a living off passive income they would be saving that credit for 3 rental houses instead.

At some point you really do need to choose between a luxurious life at retirement or while your kids are young. You can’t have both on $200k a year. If E&J have one rental property and take in $2k rent a month, then that’s still only $24k a year. I don’t get why people are reaching so far to insist E&J have more money than they should. If Bryan and Missy are RVinh to try and get a handle on things, then o guarantee E&J are on an even worse financial position than that.


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The rental income is not the only income and you have no idea if you have all their info or not.
This is a silly argument so I'm done after this, but they obvs have more than $200k a year coming in.


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[YTIG60]

A lot of people tend to underestimate the financial standing of you tubers/influencers. It's not right and it's completely ridiculous but they make more than you would ever think. Also, I don't know jack about running a business or stocks or anything like that, but as soon as I made some unexpected money, I got myself to a financial advisor and the money has continued to multiply just by finding someone trustworthy to listen to. Not every YouTuber is smart enough to do that, but a lot are. I still think E&J (mainly J and probably at the direction of his parents, who have experienced financial hardships) did. Covid really had an effect on new construction loans. Banks are tightening the reigns on qualifications. Kailyn Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley have both discussed this on their podcast, they had to change some things, despite being financially "comfortable." It'd be hard to be building right now without the funds and income to back it up. Jarred knows what Ellie expects and he will kill himself to provide it because he's a doormat and he's afraid of the alternative.


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Yes, I see how they are spending it would lead you to believe their businesses/investments are pulling in a higher six or seven figure income. However I’ve wondered if Jared’s dad has concerns with their spending due to his financial experiences. Their spending is extreme and in fact seems to have grown over time.
I don’t think the banks are tightening up to the point it’s hard to build, and interest rates remain low. I’ve also questioned if they’re doing so well financially, why didn’t they invested more in a lot with views that are plentiful in their area.
I would think assets listed like a rental property that are public records would be on a financial report, so I’m questioning the real estate investments.


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[HelloSweetie]

They do have rental properties. That poster was just wrong in their response.


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Nope not wrong. I have their public financial records. Jared has a rental property with his siblings (his parents house), but that’s it.

They don’t have enough rental income to create passive income to support them and a $960k mortgage. My husband and I make $200k a year.... I think people grossly overestimate how far that money should go. I’d never take out a $960k mortgage on ONE HOUSE. If they were making a living off passive income they would be saving that credit for 3 rental houses instead.

At some point you really do need to choose between a luxurious life at retirement or while your kids are young. You can’t have both on $200k a year. If E&J have one rental property and take in $2k rent a month, then that’s still only $24k a year. I don’t get why people are reaching so far to insist E&J have more money than they should. If Bryan and Missy are RVinh to try and get a handle on things, then o guarantee E&J are on an even worse financial position than that.


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The rental income is not the only income and you have no idea if you have all their info or not.
This is a silly argument so I'm done after this, but they obvs have more than $200k a year coming in.


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Do you have any info other than your assumptions though?

I mean, I have receipts to justify my argument. You’re going off what two known liars are saying, and just an overall assumption over what someone with a good financial planner would say. (Which is also questionable because no financial planner would suggest building a $960k home). Most financial planners are all about THE FUTURE.

Bottom line, if they are able to afford the mortgage bow, they aren’t exactly saving that $960k for the future like most people would. Jared won’t have a pension, so every Penny they can put away will grow. Makes more sense to do that. Anyone with actual money would be more concerned about saving and less so about keeping up with the Joneses. Graham Stephen is such a good example for anyone thinking those that make a lot also spend a lot. It’s usually the opposite. When you know how much your money can work and grow for you, you’re usually more careful with how you spend (or don’t spend) it.


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[YTIG60]

The rental income is not the only income and you have no idea if you have all their info or not.
This is a silly argument so I'm done after this, but they obvs have more than $200k a year coming in.
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There are many who live for today and don't plan for the future. It is very possible they're putting every penny they have into this house because Ellie wanted to move to St. George and Jared wanted to build. If you looked at their previous house, the amount of money they paid for landscaping didn't add to the equity of this home and the lot in St. George is terrible when you factor in the amount of money they're spending on the house.
I would say Bonnie and Joel have seen more success financially on YouTube and other social media platforms. But they aren't jumping into a house like her sister and brother-in-law has.
Time will tell how things go....

[lmmomSD]

I don't think Jared is behind the decision to build. I think it's all Ellie. She was buying light fixtures before they broke ground.

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[ba1006]

There's no way a bank would approve a nearly $1m loan if they didn't have a means to pay that. I'm guessing they saved quite a bit of money during their YouTube years when they were popular and views were high. I heard popular YouTubers were pulling in millions at one time with their vlogs and sponsorships. The savings, rentals or any other investments they may have has to be substantial. Of course putting all those investments into one big house is ridiculous. They should be saving for retirement, colleges, etc. but they aren't thinking that far ahead. They are both fools that way and it will come back to bite them (like K&C).

[Ducklings4]

There's no way a bank would approve a nearly $1m loan if they didn't have a means to pay that. I'm guessing they saved quite a bit of money during their YouTube years when they were popular and views were high. I heard popular YouTubers were pulling in millions at one time with their vlogs and sponsorships. The savings, rentals or any other investments they may have has to be substantial. Of course putting all those investments into one big house is ridiculous. They should be saving for retirement, colleges, etc. but they aren't thinking that far ahead. They are both fools that way and it will come back to bite them (like K&C).

A bank gave them a loan, just like a bank gave Cullen and Katie a loan.


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[Sickandtired]

Rent ain’t cheap in st George, the are probably paying close to 3,000 in rent right now. My sisters in laws just moved there and they are renting a small 2 bedroom home and paying around 2,500 dollars a month plus utilities. I’m just so confused where Ellie and Jared are getting the income. But then, maybe Jared does have a job and that’s one of the reasons they moved so suddenly. Maybe they decided not to tell their YouTube “friends” (i hate when you tubers call their subscribers friends) that Jared had to find a job so they made it seem like the move was for Ellie’s health. I don’t know, I’m just trying to figure out why and how a bank could give them a million dollar loan when they have little income coming in since ghosting their YouTube channel. The only explanation is that Jared had to get a 9-5 and maybe he is embarrassed.