Gardner Quad Squad

[Sammy16]

Welcome, Bayareamom!!! I completely agree with you. Feels good to get it all out, doesn't it? Haha! Hopefully more and more people start opening their eyes and seeing them for who they really are. I don't think Ashley could handle it if Tyson got a job. She complains daily about how tired she is even though she sleeps in most days, gets weekly massages, and has an over abundance of help. I personally think for the sake of those kids Tyson should be home and Ashley should get a job. Tyson is definitely not perfect but he keeps that household alive and running. On today's vlog she had the girls playing outside on the patio while she sat in a lounge chair and she still complained that they exhausted her. She's much too young to be that easily exhausted. It's not like she was running around with them or anything... she was sitting. I can't stand her and her laziness. There are so many other moms out there with multiples that don't have the help she does, that don't get to sleep in most of the week, that don't get weekly massages, that don't have the luxury to stay at home with their husbands and children every day without having to go to work, and that don't have 100% healthy babies but they make it work. Ashley should be a little less self-centered and a little more grateful because things could have been a lot worse for her.

Re the Busby family: I really like them so far! I just started watching the show so I'm basing my response on what I've seen on Facebook and her blog. Yes, they did a TLC show and promote products but they seem a lot more real and down to earth. Adam still works and Danielle does an amazing job balancing 5 babies plus her school-aged daughter. She gets down on the floor to play with them, takes them outside on her own, teaches them things, feeds them proper meals, still makes time for the older daughter, and she does a lot of it without the amount of help the Gardners have. You can tell her kids are her priority. She seems so much stronger and selfless compared to Ashley. I actually admire Danielle and have a lot of respect for her because she's clearly giving it her all and she doesn't pretend it's easy. Oh, and they get bonus points for not seeing it as necessary to have their girls in matching pajamas every night.

[Bayareamom]

Thanks for the warm welcome, Sammy16! Much appreciated. In all honesty, I'm still watching their vlogs, although not nearly as much as I used to. I actually skim through most of the content because it's just too irritating for me to watch the entire thing. My husband asks me why I bother watching if they irritate me so much; admittedly, he's on point, but I guess I've grown fond of the girls and keep hoping that maybe - MAYBE - these two parents will take some of the criticism that I know they realize is out there, and see some of the wisdom. I understand that we all have the right to parent our children as we see fit, and of course we all make our fair share of mistakes (I know I have), but these two are just over the top. I often wonder how much better off this family would be (in a lot of ways), should Tyson find employment outside the home, leaving Ashley home with the kids. But then, as you've stated, Sammy, it's painfully obvious that IT'S TYSON who keeps that household running, and I daresay, it was Tyson who kept that home running even when there were no 'durls.' Ashley's a spoiled little princess. It's as clear as a bell she feels entitled. I don't know what it is exactly, but in the short time she's had her own family on their vlog, I get a strange vibe. Can't quite put my finger on it, but something doesn't FEEL right when all Ashley's family is together. Tyson's family, however, I feel - are different. More down to earth, perhaps, if not quite savvy about some things (like diet/nutrition). I can certainly tell those little girls are wonderfully loved, but wow. Sometimes, I wish the Internet wasn't around and that cell phones weren't around, and people just raised their families as our grandparents did. I'm not saying there haven't been some improvements with today's technologies, etc., but good old-fashioned parenting is just LACKING these days (the way I see it). I had just one little boy. My husband is a professional and was gone almost the entire time our son was growing up. It was hard. I was essentially a single parent and living in an area where we literally had NO relatives, and very few friends initially (we were new to the area and from out-of-state). I never once had a massage, nor help with our home (until later). I'm not complaining - that's just the way it was. But it's the simple lack OF GRATITUDE I see with Ashley that just sets my teeth on edge. Does this woman know how to voice the words THANK YOU? And I honestly don't think it's good that these little girls are constantly receiving gifts from outsiders; they, too, will grow up feeling entitled, just as their mom does. Makes me sad.

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You are a kinder person than me. I don't feel sad, I just feel angry that they can do this to small children. I am SO sick of the way they try to manipulate everyone and all I can hope is that one day they are caught out in their lies big-time and their followers turn on them in large numbers. I would love to see them fall. I really believe they are as bad as each other, I just think that Tyson is a better actor than Ashley. They are both so fake though. I hate the way he keeps saying "we love you guys". No ... they DON'T love their followers, they just love what their followers are doing for them.

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Yet another fake photoshoot. They really are becoming boring lately. Tyson is now down with the flu and Ashley is off having her eyebrows waxed. Oh what a life ... waxings, massages, what next for the princess while her husband runs the house?

[Bayareamom]

Come to think of it, during one of their recent vlogs, Tyson was sick with the flu THEN, or at least that's what they both said. So he's sick yet again? And - those girls (and Ashley) just got over the flu, but what are they feeding the girls so soon after the flu bug made its rounds? Doughnuts; one after another (doughnut holes). Shortly after the girls seemed to recoup from the flu, there was Tyson, driving them through some sort of fast food joint, buying them breakfast (insert face plant here). When our son was little, I was taught about the BRAT diet after he'd had the flu (for us, too); B - Bananas; R - rice; A - applesauce; T - toast. I don't recall being told doughnuts was an acceptable food item to give to a recovering child after a flu bout. Nutrition is SO important for these little ones, not to mention for mom and dad. I'm not saying our diet was perfect, because it wasn't, but I cannot imagine feeding little ones like these the type of diet these two are feeding them. Ashley just stated in one of their most recent vlogs that she hates cooking. She happened to be cooking a meal, saying she loathed it - not loved it - loathed it. I'm thinking as I'm watching her saying this, "Well, lady, you now have four little girls, so you'd better get used to being in the kitchen, cooking." SHE CAN LEARN. I don't know, maybe Ashley's the one who tends to their Etsy business, and Tyson's the house-keeper/homemaker, dunno. But I think I've seen Tyson on several occasions, doing not only all the housecleaning, laundry and cooking, BUT handling/packaging their products to sell as well. What DOES Ashley do? Seriously, I Tyson sees the light with some of this and things change, for his sake. I realize he's a big boy, but wow. She's got him literally wrapped around her pinky; he needs to grow a clue.

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He is one big wuss isn't he? She is definitely in charge and he is like a puppy dog who is on a lead and she just tells him what to do.

Tons does all the cooking, all the cleaning (what their cleader doesn't do at least), all the laundry, all the nights shifts and most of the early morning shifts because .... AHSLEY DOESN'T DO THESE THINGS! She isn't good at them ... poor little sausage. What does she actually do? Well she has a very busy routine of massages, eyebrow waxing, shopping and going out with her family. Plus the weekends she is away of course and the nights she and Tyson have out. rest of her day seems to revolve around videoing the girls, dressing them and doing their hair.

What a life!!

Doughnuts, macaroni and cheese, soda ... great parenting there! no wonder they are sick all the time.

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Today it is fries and chicken nuggets. No wonder they all have piggy faces.

[Bayareamom]

Well, you know, in the end, I wish them well. They're not my kids; just glad I didn't have four to take care of all at once! I've noted their subscriptions don't really seem to be rising all that much beyond the 67,000 or so, count, so maybe that's because they really do rub a lot of people the wrong way. Dunno. When I first heard about this couple, I thought they were the sweetest couple. And initially, when those girls were just tiny babies, I really found the entire family truly endearing. I went from that, to slight irritation, to finally just outright feeling horrified with what I was seeing. I don't like - make that detest - ANYONE who has a hand out, expecting people they don't even know, to contribute financially re their 'needs/wants.' I don't have issues with asking (privately) family members to perhaps help out, financially and/or otherwise, but this sort of grifting I've seen with this couple is just beyond the pale. They're just SO over-the-top with everything and while I understand as a new mom that you may want things 'perfect,' Ashley's just unbelievable.

On that note, I will be taking a much needed break from all things YouTube. I've had my fill of watching any of these families who are trying to become the next reality star. I'd love to tell all of them to quit exploiting their little ones, put down their cameras, and spend REAL quality time with their kids. They grow up SO fast! And even though it's true they'll have all these memories ON FILM, that film does not, cannot, take the place of real hands on memories. It's just not the same. I see so many things that Ashley and Tyson could be doing to make things easier for themselves, w/o having to resort to the tactics they're using, i.e., they could better organize their home so that that cramped space downstairs isn't taken up with all of their Etsy products, etc. They have that extra bedroom upstairs which could be turned into a wonderful home-office, with a pull-out bed/couch, etc., if needed if anyone needs to spend the night. Just simple organization would help enormously when it comes to the over-crowding issues they have. I realize no one is perfect, and I'm no exception, and I know that we all have our lessons to learn in life, but the line in the sand FOR ME are these younger couples who feel somehow that the world OWES them simply because they've popped out a few kids. Give me a break.

It's been lovely being able to VENT on this forum! I had NO idea that so many people felt the same way I have about some of these issues with not only the Gardners, but with some of the other vlogs I've watched as well. I have to say, I had absolutely no idea so many people were using YouTube to make a living. Hubby had to explain that all to me. I guess I'm just old fashioned; you work hard, raise your kids on your own, as much as possible, don't expect hand outs, realize there is SACRIFICE involved in raising kids and that nothing's ever going to be perfect. Maybe it's just getting older and wiser that makes me feel like screaming when I watch some of these families. I think the thing that bothers me the most is the outright exploitation that this is, with all of this vlogging nonsense. If it's just some dude up there, talking about (as an example) how to operate something, or what have you, that's different. But these couples who have completely normal lives, but somehow feel that they should be able to make a living out of simply putting a camera in front of themselves and their kids on a daily basis, REALLY bugs me. But to each his own...

It was nice chatting a bit with a few of you! I'll probably come back for a visit in a few months, just to catch up. Need to take a break...

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I am so sick of Ashley!! I have no doubt that she loves those little girls, but she honestly has no idea how to be a proper mother. It is obvious from this last weekend that Tyson is the stabilising force with that marriage and holds everything together. With him gone for the weekend she fell apart. She had a huge amount of help for the two days, yet still managed to complain that she was SOS O tired! As far as I could see, Madison and her friend who was staying the weekend did all the hard work, while Ashley just sat back most of the time and filmed. Every single meal was ordered in and nothing was cooked at home, except for some carrots for the girls. big deal!! A few carrots and the rest of the weekend they ate junk food. I did notice too that she said that she is bored with all the eating places around her house as she goes to them "all the time". They must spend a fortune in food alone. Time you learned how to cook sweetie!! You husband isn't always going to be there to do it for you!!

[MadMel]

I cannot stand this woman. The baby talk was what made me stop watching her VLOGS. But seeing Tyson feeding those babies that crap makes me cringe. I have a baby who's under 1 and he is still breastfed mostly, but the foods he does eat are vegetables, fruits, oats, chia seeds and yogurt. That's it. He's never had anything with added sugar or salt. It's so damn easy to make baby food that their is NO excuse. 10 minutes of peeling and chopping veggies, on the stove to steam and boil, and you can have a weeks worth of baby food in half an hour! LAZY. That's all it is. I actually have met other babies who at 1 have had chocolate, ice cream and other junky foods. I don't get it. It's one thing for an adult to chose to eat that crap knowing that it's bad for them, but it's another to give it to a baby who has no idea and can't feed themselves. The whole thing just makes me mad.

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Exactly! And with four toddlers it would make sense to make their food in bulk ... so easy to do.

Everyone carries on about what a wonderful father Tyson is, but he is the one who mainly encourages them to eat all that crap. He is the one who supposedly likes to cook, so he has the chance to give them decent food. Ashley is beyond help in that department as it sounds like she just lives on takeaway, but at he cooks!! Why not give them decent food? I don't understand. If they were SO grateful to have those babies and waited SO long for them, why not give them the best start in life? It isn't hard to feed them decently. Tyson's family are all so overweight. Surely he can see that and doesn't want that for his daughters?

Between those two parents, those girls don't have much of a chance to grow up healthy.

[MadMel]

They'll be 4 overweight preschoolers at this rate. Which isn't as cute as 4 chubby babies.

[Bayareamom]

http://evoke.ie/extra/looking-after-quadruplets

Well - back again. I ran across this website re a woman who conceived quads NATURALLY. She's a nurse; they live in Great Britain. Don't know anything about this couple, other than the info. provided in this article, but they seem like a lovely, down-to-earth couple.

Oh - I agree with all the comments of late, above. I'm literally no longer watching their vlog in full any longer, but did catch how horribly out-of-sync Ashley seemed to be when Tyson left for a guys out on the town deal/weekend. She fell apart. Don't get me started on the Fruit Loops issue...and the fast food issue. (How hard would it to be to chop up some fresh veggies, fruits, etc., and prepare meals beforehand? Casseroles, even. You can put all the nutritional needs these kids need into one big casserole and freeze whatever's left over. Home-made french toast with scrambled eggs is easy enough to make. You can prepare french toast ahead of time and freeze it. Scrambled eggs takes minutes to make. Home-made fruit smoothies are easy enough to make, too. And hey - I'll be the first one to admit that I did not know what to cook for my little guy when he was this little. Plus, he was the world's most picky eater of all time. BUT I LEARNED. I didn't have the Internet when our son was this little, so I would go to bookstores to purchase how-to books re cooking for your toddler.

I swear, if something were to, God forbid, ever happen to Tyson, Ashley would completely fall apart at the seams. I'm not at all saying that families of multiples don't need help. But I did note in this last vlog (it just happened to be where I stopped the timer at) she stated she 'enjoyed her one on one time with the girls, even if it was just once a day. Something like that. There girls are turning (already) into royally spoiled brats with no sense of 'wrong' or knowing the meaning of NO. They are bullies, not only with one another, but with other small ones who come to visit. Wow this family needs to have a clue.

[Bayareamom]

Meant 'their' girls, rather than 'there.' Should have proofed before I sent...

[Sammy16]

It's so disgusting what they feed those kids. I agree, it would take them very little time to meal prep for the week. I think it's even more disgusting they feed them that garbage when both parents are home every day. Even if they're too lazy to meal prep, a crock-pot is a serious no-brainer. They consume way too many carbs and fats and not nearly enough protein or veggies. I won't even get started on how they dump the food on the floor and ottoman for them to eat and they're still not teaching them how to use utensils! They're raising them like cave people. I try my best not to diss the kids because it's not their fault but they are becoming quite bratty and whiny. They get whatever they want whenever they want and if they don't, they whine and cry and then they get whatever it was they were after. Obviously it's not their fault they're not learning how to behave - it's Ashley and Tyson's fault. Ashley behaves the same way and Tyson enables her so of course they're going to raise their kids that way. Someone mentioned that's why they filed for bankruptcy in the past - because Tyson can't/won't tell Ashley no.

When she did the time lapse of herself, Madison, and her friend getting the girls ready for bed I couldn't help but laugh when she did one baby and her friend did 2. She's been getting the girls ready for bed for 18 months now. She should have a system down where she's done with 2 babies by the time her friend gets through with one. But she doesn't because she can count how many times she's alone with the kids every day. She is a terrible excuse for a mother.

It really bothers me that instead of comforting the kids when they cry, Ashley grabs her phone to take a picture of it. I would smack that phone out of her pathetic, entitled little hand if I was them. I'm still trying to figure out her weird legs. She either has really long tibias or big feet. Or both. I know it's an odd thing to say but I noticed it once and haven't been able to stop noticing it since lol.

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I'd never noticed it before but you are right. Her feet are huge!!

[Sammy16]

Maybe that's why we always see them while she's vlogging from the couch- she can't hide them!

I found this in the smilies. I think it describes their followers perfectly:

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Ashley was an idiot at the dentist. Imagine leaving on all that lipstick while you're having a root canal? I'm sure that the dentist wasn't impressed.

Tyson says that Ashley "deserves a sleep in". Why??? What has she done to deserve sleeping in while her sick husband looks after the girls yet again? By his own admission he said that he feels awful, yet he is still the one on duty while she sleeps. That man is crazy to let her get away with it.

[KatB11182014]

Really Ashley gets to go to Vegas with her friend? And once again leave the girls with poor Tyson while she goes and has fun? I have only seen him gone once without all of them. I am so sick of this self entitled woman. I have been away from my daughter but 15 nights in almost 2 years. Why can't he ever go away as much as she does. I think that she wasn't as ready as she thought she was having 4 kids at once.


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