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tintin15 wrote:I still want to know why Ollie adds 'den' to everything. It just doesn't make sense to me...I understand kids usually mispronounce so much, especially that young, but adding the same thing to the end of most words? It's so strange...
I could understand if there Was a word that was said to him constantly that ended in 'den' but there isn't. Wonder if it's his hearing/ears?
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I've been saying for months I think he has some hearing loss.
My now 7 yo daughter had a hard time talking around 2 & we had her evaluated & it turns out she needed hearing aids.
We had a speech therapist come to the house until she turned 3 & then she had to go to a special school for deaf & hard of hearing children at 3 & 4 but she was able to go to the main stream school at 5.
She still has speech once a week and wears her hearing aids but she is doing great!
We are in Florida and EVERYTHING was covered. Even her first set of hearing aids were free!
I don't see them not wanting to offer every opportunity to their precious Ollie, now if they ignored finn's speech problem, I could understand it because they ignore that sweet boy anyway!
Too busy sticking their heads up their own butts!
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He could have water in his ears from all that swimming. Who knows? Obviously we can't diagnose. He's doing better, but he still clenches his teeth a lot and does the "den" thing. I know all kids learn at different rates, but there's a little girl two months younger than Ollie on Smelly Belly TV vlogs, and she sounds SO much better. I'm only mentioning it for comparison's sake to someone of the same age. But Missy refuses to believe there is anything wrong with her miracle baby, and Bryan just has his head way too far up his own ass. He only wants the "fun" part of parenting-- cuddles and playing and trips to Disneyland.
I legit had to watch that almost 2 times because I couldn't stop laughing...and also because I couldn't understand anything Ollie was saying....it's great that you give your "advanced" 3 year old all the lines of your poorly scripted vlog....maybe they should have gotten everyone to end things with the "den" that would have made it more fun hahaha
Missy was tinkerbell?? I thought that was Bryan's dream costume!! They should have switched...would have been more fun to see Missy be grumpy and complain....oh wait
I think Ollie was super cute in the video, I mean it was boring as hell because I'm an adult and felt like I was watching the Disney channel so I walked away for a while as it played. I wonder if they are going to try to get Ollie to be an actor?
And about the speech thing, someone mentioned maybe it's his hearing. I'm not saying he does or doesn't have a hearing problem but I will say my sister who is now 31 who is partially deaf has a hard time pronouncing certain words because she doesn't hear them correctly.
The other thread was locked but regarding Ollie's speech,
I work as a speech language pathologist and at this point there is nothing any professional can use to evaluate and/or treat him. We cannot evaluate a child until they are four years of age because its typical for 3yr and old to have difficulty producing speech in the right place (where exactly the sound is produced by articulators) and manner (fricatives /s/ /f/ /l/ /r/ etc are all later developing sounds). It is well known throughout the SLP community that 75% of what a three year old says is intelligible and adding syllables to the end of words is a common error in children at his age. I agree, if his speech shows no improvement over the next year he would certainly be on my radar for treatment but I professionally couldn't make that call until he is at least four years of age.
Not that I am defending the bumps - Bryan being such an attention hog and their obvious favoritism over Ollie makes me ill.
alyssadt wrote:The other thread was locked but regarding Ollie's speech,
I work as a speech language pathologist and at this point there is nothing any professional can use to evaluate and/or treat him. We cannot evaluate a child until they are four years of age because its typical for 3yr and old to have difficulty producing speech in the right place (where exactly the sound is produced by articulators) and manner (fricatives /s/ /f/ /l/ /r/ etc are all later developing sounds). It is well known throughout the SLP community that 75% of what a three year old says is intelligible and adding syllables to the end of words is a common error in children at his age. I agree, if his speech shows no improvement over the next year he would certainly be on my radar for treatment but I professionally couldn't make that call until he is at least four years of age.
Not that I am defending the bumps - Bryan being such an attention hog and their obvious favoritism over Ollie makes me ill.
Not trying to argue with you, but my daughter got evaluated at 18 months because she didn't have the expected vocabulary. She started speech therapy, and got her hearing tested. She stayed in SLP throughout her school years. Is early intervention no longer a thing? Or are you saying that there is nothing to evaluate in Ollie in particular because of the adding "den" to the end of words? You don't see any other issues with his speech? Because to me, he's not 75% intelligible. He's more like 75% unintelligible. And the jaw clenching is concerning too.
We will still do early intervention if problem is in vocabulary, poor non-verbal communication, or if a child
Flat out isn't not talking or understanding, but articulation errors (like Ollie) are not considered for early intervention unless paired with an obvious physical abnormality (cleft palate for instance).
And sorry for the typo. I meant 75% unintelligible but I Suppose my phone autocorrected me lol
alyssadt wrote:The other thread was locked but regarding Ollie's speech,
I work as a speech language pathologist and at this point there is nothing any professional can use to evaluate and/or treat him. We cannot evaluate a child until they are four years of age because its typical for 3yr and old to have difficulty producing speech in the right place (where exactly the sound is produced by articulators) and manner (fricatives /s/ /f/ /l/ /r/ etc are all later developing sounds). It is well known throughout the SLP community that 75% of what a three year old says is intelligible and adding syllables to the end of words is a common error in children at his age. I agree, if his speech shows no improvement over the next year he would certainly be on my radar for treatment but I professionally couldn't make that call until he is at least four years of age.
Not that I am defending the bumps - Bryan being such an attention hog and their obvious favoritism over Ollie makes me ill.
My mom is a speech and language pathologist and she works with kids as young as three. She has tested and worked with children as young as two. Children can also be tested through the public schools at three.
Boy, Missy went from looking great in the Belle costume to looking rather blah! in the Tinkerbell get up. Bryan on the other hand, he looked more like a short, fat version of Howard Stern than he did Captain Hook.
Personal note but always good to have a childs ears tested my son has aspergers syndrome and one of the tests we had to go for during evaluation was a hearing screening I was like no way this child has hearing issues because he can hear a conversation across a room and a chip packet opening outside but we went for the test and they did pick up an issue with his one ear we have to put sweet oils in his ear for the next month and he has to go back for another evaluation I was really shocked and felt so guilty would def be a good idea to at least have him checked even if it is nothing
Hey everyone. Im new to their vlogs. Can someone give me some info. WHY are Missy's family there 24/7? Do they pay them for being in the vlogs? Do either of them work because that house is super nice must have cost a fortune. I agree the son has definite speech problems, possible hearing problems. The baby is SO cute.
alyssadt wrote:We will still do early intervention if problem is in vocabulary, poor non-verbal communication, or if a child
Flat out isn't not talking or understanding, but articulation errors (like Ollie) are not considered for early intervention unless paired with an obvious physical abnormality (cleft palate for instance).
And sorry for the typo. I meant 75% unintelligible but I Suppose my phone autocorrected me lol
Thought it might be a typo. Thanks for clarifying! So it's Ollie's issue in particular that can't be evaluated yet. Gotcha.
My quoting still isn't working but this is for the person new to the vlogs (Pineapple? can't see your name, sorry!)
Hi, it has never actually been confirmed why her family is always there, but I think the popular belief is a mixture of Missy's reliance on them, Bryan's inability to do anything physical to help his family, and that they are being paid
Not to beat a dead horse about Ollie's speech, but I just feel like it's shocking because I can understand other youtube kids so well (and I know you're not supposed to compare children or whatever).
Recently, I watched a Sam and Nia vlog, and their son said something that I understood, but the person he was talking to needed Sam to translate. While we don't speak to these kids personally, we see them everyday for about 15 minutes. That's a lot of time to get used to how they speak.
That being said, I don't thing Ollie has a problem. I think Bryan and Missy have a problem teaching him. Look at how they teach him his colors and shapes.... Of wait they only did that once and then never again.
Lurker4Life wrote:My quoting still isn't working but this is for the person new to the vlogs (Pineapple? can't see your name, sorry!)
Hi, it has never actually been confirmed why her family is always there, but I think the popular belief is a mixture of Missy's reliance on them, Bryan's inability to do anything physical to help his family, and that they are being paid
Thanks! I dont think i could do EVERYTHING with my family omg! They even vacation together, i'd go crazy lol
usernamessuck wrote:Not to beat a dead horse about Ollie's speech, but I just feel like it's shocking because I can understand other youtube kids so well (and I know you're not supposed to compare children or whatever).
Recently, I watched a Sam and Nia vlog, and their son said something that I understood, but the person he was talking to needed Sam to translate. While we don't speak to these kids personally, we see them everyday for about 15 minutes. That's a lot of time to get used to how they speak.
That being said, I don't thing Ollie has a problem. I think Bryan and Missy have a problem teaching him. Look at how they teach him his colors and shapes.... Of wait they only did that once and then never again.
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Not to disagree with you but it does actually sound like a physical problem to me. Could be hearing or maybe a slight tongue tie... i've had 4 kids and one of mine had glue ear and had similar pronunciation issues. He really needs to be assessed.
