8 Passengers: Don't Cry Over Lost Footage| Part #11

[lightasfeather]

Not really hard to read - just long and often don't hold younger reader's attention. But they are very straightforward, with no deep metaphors or complicated psychological development. I checked and based on their Lexile rating they are suitable for good reader in 5th grade (10yrs) or poor reader in 9th grade (14 yrs). The only problem is to find a ten year old who is interested in the story, but language/grammar/etc. are pretty simple.

From what I've heard people complain about book's pace mostly and it going too slow, especially for younger audience. So they get bored and abandon the book... Which is often the case with classical literature too but there the complexity is often to blame, while here not really.

I was wondering if Shari thinking LOTR's was too deep/complex for her to grasp at 15 was an indication of her true intelligence.....looks like it might be. Maybe she has the same problem as Abby, where she is obsessed with reading, but she doesn't seem to be grasping the material, or picking up the vocabulary & grammar? That would explain why her book list is so strange and disjointed. She didn't convince me to read any of them; I don't ever want to read Dumas now! It seems like several books only made it on the list, because they were deemed "a literary classic" at school, and she could somewhat tolerate them. She gave off the impression that she likes romance novels and fantasy, although reading love scenes out to her brother in front of her grandparents seems a little twisted. It also appears she doesn't know the definition of a novel.

Did anyone else think it is weird that she called her English teacher her "2nd father"? There seems to be a pattern emerging of Shari seeking out inappropriate relationships with older men in authority Dr. Coach anyone?

I went to watch her video to understand... Lol. I definitely think it's weird to reread all the books, from Harry Potter to Devils advocate.... Maybe I'm mistaken, but people usually read a book and move on to the next one and only go back to really outstanding favourites/interesting pieces? Maybe she just didn't understand the books first time? Hard to say...

It's also weird to include books for young children in your "favourite books" list at 16 - maybe I'm overthinking it but I would guess that she might not have read as many books as she wants ppl to believe when those books she read like 8-9 yes ago still make it to the list (with notion she may not really like them - but it's great book... Almost as if it was complete list of what she read, not favourites).

The Count of Monte Christo is great book for young teens (or children if they read adjusted version), but she didn't really get what it was about right... When quoting from Dracula her diction made the excerpt incomprehensible, but made it clear she didn't know what she was reading. Combine that with comments on book cover and black outline of pages and there is a good reason to doubt she understood it. But maybe I'm just being harsh... At least she used to read, that's a positive in any case.

[Gossip_Girl]

Uhmmm do they make cakes dry on purpose so they have to pour milk on it to eat it? I’ve never seen anyone do that.. looks gross but I’ve never tried it so I guess I can’t knock it, anyone else?? Lol

A lot of people drink milk separately with cake. Putting it in the same bowl doesn’t seem that weird to me. I have dunked brownies in milk before. I can imagine the texture throws people off. It would probably be more appealing to dunk pieces of cake in milk instead of letting in sit in a bowl of milk.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Uhmmm do they make cakes dry on purpose so they have to pour milk on it to eat it? I’ve never seen anyone do that.. looks gross but I’ve never tried it so I guess I can’t knock it, anyone else?? Lol

A lot of people drink milk separately with cake. Putting it in the same bowl doesn’t seem that weird to me. I have dunked brownies in milk before. I can imagine the texture throws people off. It would probably be more appealing to dunk pieces of cake in milk instead of letting in sit in a bowl of milk.

I just assumed Ruby's cooking is so awful that they drown it in something more palatable. My father used to eat pieces of bread in milk, but cake is supposed to be moist and delicious on its own. I also don't like "wet" cakes though, like Tres Leches, so cake swimming in a bowl of milk sounds even less appetizing.

[definitelygreen]

I'm new here so sorry if this is petty, but track times are available online and Shari's "I came in second in my heat" actually translates to 74th out of 84 in her race occurring the same day as Abby's birthday. IMO just another example of her holier-than-thou attitude and inability to be okay with not performing the best (or pressure from mom...)

[Catface2]

So after watching Kevin play around with that lighter, how long do ya think it’ll be before Russell or Eve light the house on fire..or themselves?! What a colossal dipshit!

[eacrane]

So after watching Kevin play around with that lighter, how long do ya think it’ll be before Russell or Eve light the house on fire..or themselves?! What a colossal dipshit!

OMG! Yes! I couldn't understand why a grown man (let alone a well-educated one) thought that it was a good idea to REPEATEDLY play with a lighter in front of his young, impressionable children. Worse off, he was lighting it right in the faces of his wife and kids.

After the preview at the beginning, I thought Ruby was going to say the thing about him being worse than the kids and that he would stop, but he just kept going on with it, like, throughout the whole party. It was really strange.

Kevin really creeps me out for some reason. I don't know why, but I just get super strange vibes from him. Maybe his personality just doesn't present well in the vlogs, but I just picture him as being really skeezy and checked out in his family life.

Also, with E & J teaching the boys how to use matches, I bet it is just a matter of time until one of the Griffiths girls is posting a vlog about a fire/fire injury.

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[ThisIsMeCeej]

I just watched the vlog from today, and wow... I was shocked and SO HAPPY, that Kevin stood up for Julie when Shari got all p!ssy about "you didn't make my bed!" and he jumped in to her defense and said "HEY!, she helped take care of YOUR hedgehog!" GO KEVIN! I hope that kind of thing continues!

[lmmomSD]

I _loved_ The Count of Monte Cristo. When I was 12 (I think) my great-uncle gave me Watership Down. I read it on and over. I read Tolkein's short stories when I was little. What I had a hard time with was Faulkner. I like Dickens. I think the language of the classics is hard for kids to get past.
Shari may be smart, but she's not very deep. None of the Griffiths women are, nor are the men they marry. And their grammar all sucks. She may have the scientific/math brains like her father, but I really have a hard time imagining her actually becoming a lawyer.
And yes! I get a skeevy vibe from Kevin. There was either an instastory or vlog where he was going on about Ruby's feet in a way that made me shudder. I mean, they're adults, so go for it. If you have a thing you like, knock yourself out. But don't share about it. Especially when the majority of your followers are 12 and under.

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[AlexVause]

Shari is really a piece of work.

- Treats her siblings like crap unless they behave like her "slaves" like Abby seems to do.
- Thinks she is smarter than everyone yet can't even properly explain the plot of a book or simply state that LOTR has a lot of Christian symbolism, which is pretty straightforward considering she was taught the book in school.
- Is the kind of person who does shit just for how it looks on her "resumé", like being the captain of a team of a sport she actually hates.
- Has daddy issues: hot "knows-everything" coach and "2nd father" teacher.
- Claims she is super independent and will move away "the second" she turns 18, but plans to go a university that is 15 minutes away from her home.
- Speaking of university, she doesn't even have to pretend things for her resume, she has legacy and is mormon, decent grades will be more than enough to get her into BYU, it's not going to be an accomplishment that she gets in.
- Wants to live in NYC or Seattle, "anywhere but Utah", but Miss Independent is going to BYU for 4 years. If she's SO SO smart she could surely go to NYU and get a scholarship? Not that her parents couldn't easily afford to send her there anyway. So maybe not so independent, huh, Miss Shari?
- Then there's her thinking she has the maturity of a 30 year old, yet she leaves the car running and can't even admit "oh shit, what was I thinking, my bad." Very mature.
- Puts others outside her family down to make herself feel better. Remember when her team lost a volleyball game and she outright said everyone else in her team was shit? That Napoleon complex...

[Namm]

Shari is really a piece of work.

- Treats her siblings like crap unless they behave like her "slaves" like Abby seems to do.
- Thinks she is smarter than everyone yet can't even properly explain the plot of a book or simply state that LOTR has a lot of Christian symbolism, which is pretty straightforward considering she was taught the book in school.
- Is the kind of person who does shit just for how it looks on her "resumé", like being the captain of a team of a sport she actually hates.
- Has daddy issues: hot "knows-everything" coach and "2nd father" teacher.
- Claims she is super independent and will move away "the second" she turns 18, but plans to go a university that is 15 minutes away from her home.
- Speaking of university, she doesn't even have to pretend things for her resume, she has legacy and is mormon, decent grades will be more than enough to get her into BYU, it's not going to be an accomplishment that she gets in.
- Wants to live in NYC or Seattle, "anywhere but Utah", but Miss Independent is going to BYU for 4 years. If she's SO SO smart she could surely go to NYU and get a scholarship? Not that her parents couldn't easily afford to send her there anyway. So maybe not so independent, huh, Miss Shari?
- Then there's her thinking she has the maturity of a 30 year old, yet she leaves the car running and can't even admit "oh shit, what was I thinking, my bad." Very mature.
- Puts others outside her family down to make herself feel better. Remember when her team lost a volleyball game and she outright said everyone else in her team was shit? That Napoleon complex...

One could be mad at Shari. But all it takes is one of the parents to step in and stop some of her behavior but both of them seem to be amused undercover bullies themselves.
I've written this before and I think that Shari is unconsciously dealing with her childhood and getting back at her siblings for loosing some of her childhood. Shari was the only child, first grandchild getting all the attention to suddenly become the forgotten one who had to care for her siblings at a young age.
I just hope that her siblings don't grow up resenting her because family ain't what it used to be. People have less tolerance towards abusive family members. She's the one who'll need her siblings the most because I'm not sure that she has any friends like her siblings. She'll end up alone.

Ruby wrote an Instagram post once that when she started hanging with April&Davy she didn't know that she could find a friendship like that and enjoy it. She didn't have any friends growing up because she thought she was above and didn't need them which she regrets today. But for some reason she's paved the same path for her daughter. I think that Griffith mother isolated her children, she manipulated them to think that they needed no one else than eachother so she could maintain influence and power.

[Catface2]

So I guess Ruby won’t be spending any time with Kesleys mom anymore since their kids broke up. They must have run out of plot lines together. Lol

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Did anyone see the new vlog?

* Abby's second-hand birthday gifts are already doled out to the kids, with Eve getting tortured with the sleep-in curlers. She'll need any distraction she can get at the Kindergarten assessment.

* Eve runs away from the teacher and other kids to show Ruby her half cut-out clock, while all the other kids calmly walk behind the teacher with fully finished clock projects. Eve is legally required to be in school when she turns 6 (before next school year), so it was a wise choice to make a 5+ figure donation to the private school.

* Ruby makes Abby take up fake flower arranging, since her idea to revolutionize beauty products with graphite didn't work out. Even though this is the busiest day ever, Abby is taken by both parents to leisurely spend the afternoon at Hobby Lobby.

* Julie is so used to accommodating everyone else's life, she assumes Ruby won't let her go to her recital with a friend as planned, so she can play the piece at home for the vlog instead. Thankfully Ruby lets another family care for Julie that day.

* Ruby acts like pinning a corsage on is rocket science, and spends half the day studying YT videos. How do you not stab your date!? Anything for "drama".

* Ruby says Shari's personally tailored prom dress has a hole in it that her 11 yr old sister is going to fix an hour before prom.....yeah, I'll believe it when I see the vlog footage of it. Shari wasn't even concerned in the slightest.

* Ruby also is doing Shari's hair "an hour before" she is getting picked up, which Shari does freak out about. Not a hole in the dress though!

* TO BE CONTINUED! Stay tuned to see if Brevin bleeds all over his suit, if Abby becomes a seamstress, if Julie ever comes home from her friend's house, if Shari finally gets her hair curled to her standards, and if Eve gets into Kindergarten....

Why in the world would Shari go on a date with Brevin (to an escape room), the day they go to Prom? And why would Ruby and Kevin take Abby to Hobby Lobby alone to leisurely arrange fake flowers and chat with fans....the same day Eve has school testing in a different city, Julie has a soccer game and a piano recital (that they are too busy to take her to), Shari has a date AND a Prom, Kevin goes to the gym, Ruby goes to the florist, etc.?

[ctx2002]

I agree with recent posts about Shari's attitude. I mean really, you're asked to say one nice thing about your little sister on her birthday and what comes to mind first is that she's willing to be your personal slave. She didn't even play it off as a joke, like "But no seriously, I like that she is blah blah". And yes, good on Kevin for correcting Shari about giving Julie an attitude. And I couldn't really hear what Chad said over one of the little kids yelling in the background, but did he basically say the same thing about Abby as Shari did?

I also agree that she likely has a good amount of underlying resentment towards her younger siblings for having to play the second mom to them when she was younger herself. She also likely recognized a long time ago that she is much smarter than her mom (at least general intelligence wise) and probably feels like she's on more of an equal footing with Ruby in the family "hierarchy" than she really is. I imagine she has a bit of an unconscious inferiority complex due to her size, but she knows she can't get away with treating her peers at school the way she does her siblings, which leads her to be all the more bossy and know-it-all with them.

[SCD222]

I have never heard of this until I started watching some of these families, but its called a "day date"
Its something that all the prom couple do the day of prom. I saw in the april and davey vlog and the Miskell family.

Did anyone see the new vlog?

* Abby's second-hand birthday gifts are already doled out to the kids, with Eve getting tortured with the sleep-in curlers. She'll need any distraction she can get at the Kindergarten assessment.

* Eve runs away from the teacher and other kids to show Ruby her half cut-out clock, while all the other kids calmly walk behind the teacher with fully finished clock projects. Eve is legally required to be in school when she turns 6 (before next school year), so it was a wise choice to make a 5+ figure donation to the private school.

* Ruby makes Abby take up fake flower arranging, since her idea to revolutionize beauty products with graphite didn't work out. Even though this is the busiest day ever, Abby is taken by both parents to leisurely spend the afternoon at Hobby Lobby.

* Julie is so used to accommodating everyone else's life, she assumes Ruby won't let her go to her recital with a friend as planned, so she can play the piece at home for the vlog instead. Thankfully Ruby lets another family care for Julie that day.

* Ruby acts like pinning a corsage on is rocket science, and spends half the day studying YT videos. How do you not stab your date!? Anything for "drama".

* Ruby says Shari's personally tailored prom dress has a hole in it that her 11 yr old sister is going to fix an hour before prom.....yeah, I'll believe it when I see the vlog footage of it. Shari wasn't even concerned in the slightest.

* Ruby also is doing Shari's hair "an hour before" she is getting picked up, which Shari does freak out about. Not a hole in the dress though!

* TO BE CONTINUED! Stay tuned to see if Brevin bleeds all over his suit, if Abby becomes a seamstress, if Julie ever comes home from her friend's house, if Shari finally gets her hair curled to her standards, and if Eve gets into Kindergarten....

Why in the world would Shari go on a date with Brevin (to an escape room), the day they go to Prom? And why would Ruby and Kevin take Abby to Hobby Lobby alone to leisurely arrange fake flowers and chat with fans....the same day Eve has school testing in a different city, Julie has a soccer game and a piano recital (that they are too busy to take her to), Shari has a date AND a Prom, Kevin goes to the gym, Ruby goes to the florist, etc.?

[ICantEven]

Why in the world would Shari go on a date with Brevin (to an escape room), the day they go to Prom? And why would Ruby and Kevin take Abby to Hobby Lobby alone to leisurely arrange fake flowers and chat with fans....the same day Eve has school testing in a different city, Julie has a soccer game and a piano recital (that they are too busy to take her to), Shari has a date AND a Prom, Kevin goes to the gym, Ruby goes to the florist, etc.?

I didn't watch it, but I wonder if all these events were from multiple days. It seems like it was a Saturday, but would the kindergarten assessment be done outside school hours? (maybe it would to not interfere with the normal school day)

[Namm]

Did anyone see the new vlog?

* Abby's second-hand birthday gifts are already doled out to the kids, with Eve getting tortured with the sleep-in curlers. She'll need any distraction she can get at the Kindergarten assessment.

* Eve runs away from the teacher and other kids to show Ruby her half cut-out clock, while all the other kids calmly walk behind the teacher with fully finished clock projects. Eve is legally required to be in school when she turns 6 (before next school year), so it was a wise choice to make a 5+ figure donation to the private school.

* Ruby makes Abby take up fake flower arranging, since her idea to revolutionize beauty products with graphite didn't work out. Even though this is the busiest day ever, Abby is taken by both parents to leisurely spend the afternoon at Hobby Lobby.

* Julie is so used to accommodating everyone else's life, she assumes Ruby won't let her go to her recital with a friend as planned, so she can play the piece at home for the vlog instead. Thankfully Ruby lets another family care for Julie that day.

* Ruby acts like pinning a corsage on is rocket science, and spends half the day studying YT videos. How do you not stab your date!? Anything for "drama".

* Ruby says Shari's personally tailored prom dress has a hole in it that her 11 yr old sister is going to fix an hour before prom.....yeah, I'll believe it when I see the vlog footage of it. Shari wasn't even concerned in the slightest.

* Ruby also is doing Shari's hair "an hour before" she is getting picked up, which Shari does freak out about. Not a hole in the dress though!

* TO BE CONTINUED! Stay tuned to see if Brevin bleeds all over his suit, if Abby becomes a seamstress, if Julie ever comes home from her friend's house, if Shari finally gets her hair curled to her standards, and if Eve gets into Kindergarten....

Why in the world would Shari go on a date with Brevin (to an escape room), the day they go to Prom? And why would Ruby and Kevin take Abby to Hobby Lobby alone to leisurely arrange fake flowers and chat with fans....the same day Eve has school testing in a different city, Julie has a soccer game and a piano recital (that they are too busy to take her to), Shari has a date AND a Prom, Kevin goes to the gym, Ruby goes to the florist, etc.?

This was a very good and interesting post especially Abbies part. She didn't even let Abbie decide anything in the shop. It's like the time she took Julie to swimming classes, gymnastics and Abbie to tennis classes and once gymnastics, what ever happened to that? She shows her children that she has no genuine interest in them if it's not for the vlogs and teaches them not to carry through with things.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

I agree with recent posts about Shari's attitude. I mean really, you're asked to say one nice thing about your little sister on her birthday and what comes to mind first is that she's willing to be your personal slave. She didn't even play it off as a joke, like "But no seriously, I like that she is blah blah". And yes, good on Kevin for correcting Shari about giving Julie an attitude. And I couldn't really hear what Chad said over one of the little kids yelling in the background, but did he basically say the same thing about Abby as Shari did?

I also agree that she likely has a good amount of underlying resentment towards her younger siblings for having to play the second mom to them when she was younger herself. She also likely recognized a long time ago that she is much smarter than her mom (at least general intelligence wise) and probably feels like she's on more of an equal footing with Ruby in the family "hierarchy" than she really is. I imagine she has a bit of an unconscious inferiority complex due to her size, but she knows she can't get away with treating her peers at school the way she does her siblings, which leads her to be all the more bossy and know-it-all with them.

Chad said something like "If I am downstairs and ask her for a granola bar or something, she always gets it. I don't know if she's scared I am going to hurt her or something..." and I don't remember the rest.

[Baconsgirl]

Watching all these prom videos make me realize I probably spent too much money lol.


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[Gossip_Girl]

Did anyone see the new vlog?

* Abby's second-hand birthday gifts are already doled out to the kids, with Eve getting tortured with the sleep-in curlers. She'll need any distraction she can get at the Kindergarten assessment.

* Eve runs away from the teacher and other kids to show Ruby her half cut-out clock, while all the other kids calmly walk behind the teacher with fully finished clock projects. Eve is legally required to be in school when she turns 6 (before next school year), so it was a wise choice to make a 5+ figure donation to the private school.

* Ruby makes Abby take up fake flower arranging, since her idea to revolutionize beauty products with graphite didn't work out. Even though this is the busiest day ever, Abby is taken by both parents to leisurely spend the afternoon at Hobby Lobby.

* Julie is so used to accommodating everyone else's life, she assumes Ruby won't let her go to her recital with a friend as planned, so she can play the piece at home for the vlog instead. Thankfully Ruby lets another family care for Julie that day.

* Ruby acts like pinning a corsage on is rocket science, and spends half the day studying YT videos. How do you not stab your date!? Anything for "drama".

* Ruby says Shari's personally tailored prom dress has a hole in it that her 11 yr old sister is going to fix an hour before prom.....yeah, I'll believe it when I see the vlog footage of it. Shari wasn't even concerned in the slightest.

* Ruby also is doing Shari's hair "an hour before" she is getting picked up, which Shari does freak out about. Not a hole in the dress though!

* TO BE CONTINUED! Stay tuned to see if Brevin bleeds all over his suit, if Abby becomes a seamstress, if Julie ever comes home from her friend's house, if Shari finally gets her hair curled to her standards, and if Eve gets into Kindergarten....

Why in the world would Shari go on a date with Brevin (to an escape room), the day they go to Prom? And why would Ruby and Kevin take Abby to Hobby Lobby alone to leisurely arrange fake flowers and chat with fans....the same day Eve has school testing in a different city, Julie has a soccer game and a piano recital (that they are too busy to take her to), Shari has a date AND a Prom, Kevin goes to the gym, Ruby goes to the florist, etc.?

I completely forgot that they donated $10,000+ to the school. Yet Ruby acts like they can’t afford to send their children to college. Does anyone know if there is any sort of family plan for their school? If not they paid around $40,000 to send all of their kids to school this year. I just can’t believe they really make so much money from Kevin and YouTube. I’m in the wrong business apparently. Let’s hope their YT money doesn’t run out because it will cost them $105,000+ (given the price doesn’t change) to send Eve to school for 12 years.

[shortstop]

How do we know that they donated that much too their school?