Well I don't totally disagree with you but my comment was pretty much directed at one specific comment, that had lots of likes and people agreeing with it, which I guess just made me feel depressed and spurred me to comment when I normally wouldn't. I'm not arguing that they're not people living a lifestyle that I totally disagree with It's just that if we're going to speak about things from a religious perspective (what's appropriate or not at church, or what behaviors offend people who take their church going very seriously, etc) then there's no reason to pick at these particular behaviors over any other, or over your own bad behavior for that matter. I seriously doubt that they're not donating a ton privately considering the amount of money that they make, and I haven't really seen them mention fundraising stuff in a while which for all we know could be because they realized that "damned if you damned if you don't" nature of the situation. Maybe at first they tried to talk about some of it because they didn't want to be accused of never being charitable, I don't really know- but I do know that if you claim to be someone of faith you shouldn't really have any excuse to go around condemning others for their behavior. I know that doesn't really fit in with a forum of this nature, and like I said I mostly don't mention anything but in this case it's relevant.lmmomSD wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:33 pmI agree that they're damned if they do and damned if they don't talk about charity. You are supposed to do your charitable acts in secret. But there are ways to talk about it, encouraging others to donate as well, without boasting about it. Even with the Cambodia thing, they were bragging about how much money they raised.sb613 wrote:I find it hard to believe that someone who actually took their faith seriously would be annoyed because a bunch of "random people" are showing up at church on special occasions. If you take your faith very seriously then wouldn't you want to try to emulate Jesus Christ and be welcoming, kind and loving to everyone even though they might not be a "regular" like you? It just seems ironic to me to hear someone say that they take their faith very seriously when they aren't representing what's taught in the Bible.
As for charitable behavior, you're supposed to do your good deeds in secret, not tell others about them.
How is it tacky or inappropriate to wear a white tee shirt to church when the Bible teaches us not to doll ourselves up for church or care about nice clothing at all?
And yeah, if you're perfect, you don't get annoyed with C&E Christians. But I am certainly not perfect. I wouldn't even care if they were just C&E Christians. It's the making sure to post it on Instagram "look! We're at church!" that bugs me. Once again, being boastful.
As far as the white T-shirt goes, to me it's about respect for the institution and others. He's got plenty of nice clothes, but he looks like he just rolled out of bed and grabbed the first thing he saw. But the boys are all dressed up, so they do care what some people think.
It's the hypocrisy and utter lack of gratitude for everything they have that makes me twitch. They're walking talking examples of the 7 Deadly Sins: greed, envy, sloth, lust, pride, wrath, and gluttony. But so are most "family vloggers".
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Anyways, I don't mean to ramble but basically I just think it's not right to say that you're annoyed by people showing up on holidays, as if your faith and regular church going have earned you some special right to judge and an excuse to feel annoyed, when that is completely contrary to what Jesus Christ expects from his church.
And I don't want to make multiple comments quoting people, so to Edenberry, my point isn't that it's okay to wear if it's all you have, I think it's just perfectly acceptable to wear. There's no Biblical basis for saying that his outfit is inappropriate, it specifically says not to prioritize fine clothing instead. Everywhere is God's house, it's just our own societal custom to dress in fancy outfits for church which I actually don't agree with. I'm not sure where you're getting that even the poorest people would wear their best, I haven't read that anywhere. His clothes were clean and not overly flashy, that's all that matters. If anything you could say that it's more respectful to dress nicely if it's an important part of that churches culture, but they clearly attend a more relaxed, come as you please attitude.