Knorpp&South: When a FINGER AMPUTATION turns into a THRIFTING COMPILATION. | Part 4

[grandmama1]

Oh I think Mike was in a state of disbelief when she picked it up and the way he told her to wash her hands... it was like a parent having to tell a child, and it was just seen as normal? Embarrassing. One of the biggest hints I've seen that she's not well.

Megan is in need of help asap. That behaviour isn't normal for a middle aged woman. Wonder what the in laws think of her behaviour.

[Aisling]

So today we’re back at the same beach, collecting skanky feathers. I think Eve has such potential to be so much more than they’re setting her up, for but if ANYONE, DS or not, snatched something out of my hand the way Eve grabbed those feathers it would be the very last time she would ever do it

I loved seeing Granny holding Esther on the way into the gelato shop. I don’t think I’ve ever seen M&M show any of the kids that sort of basic level affection in the many, many hours of footage they’ve uploaded. The fact it was unusual to see and stood out speaks volumes. Quite frankly they’re 2 adults who shouldn’t have bred, and i don’t say that lightly.

I didn’t finish watching yesterday’s offering. I stopped when these selfish fucks took THE WHOLE FAMILY to the airport after dragging 2 elderly people across the country and then back at the house pontificates about wanting to “stay safe” at the coast. Lucky we’re not in the middle of a pandemic with the US cases an embarrassment to the former administration or anything.

[Care2Share]

She actually looked up that there was a thrift store nearby. On her “vacation”. Where they were meant to spend time with family. Family who are no doubt over 60 and just flew across the US in the middle of a pandemic.

Also had to comment that Andrew didn’t know what $8- was on a price tag. How old is he? 17? Doesn’t even know how to pack enough pants for a three day trip?

Megan pontificating about all the old wood and how things were done. Like she knows it all. I agree, I wanted to punch her in the face when she was poking at that poor bird.

She is just so unlikeable.

[NYCtoNKY]

You know she was upset that the beach house gifted to them by a groupie wasn’t oceanfront.

[1Poodle1]

So today we’re back at the same beach, collecting skanky feathers. I think Eve has such potential to be so much more than they’re setting her up, for but if ANYONE, DS or not, snatched something out of my hand the way Eve grabbed those feathers it would be the very last time she would ever do it

I loved seeing Granny holding Esther on the way into the gelato shop. I don’t think I’ve ever seen M&M show any of the kids that sort of basic level affection in the many, many hours of footage they’ve uploaded. The fact it was unusual to see and stood out speaks volumes. Quite frankly they’re 2 adults who shouldn’t have bred, and i don’t say that lightly.

I didn’t finish watching yesterday’s offering. I stopped when these selfish fucks took THE WHOLE FAMILY to the airport after dragging 2 elderly people across the country and then back at the house pontificates about wanting to “stay safe” at the coast. Lucky we’re not in the middle of a pandemic with the US cases an embarrassment to the former administration or anything.

Absolutely to everything you said!

I have a question to those who know about children with DS. I do not want to be insensitive with this, but I'm wondering about Eve. Her manners are definitely lacking. It seems the way the entire family deals with Eve is to basically ignore her. How much effort would it take to remind her to be polite? She's bright. She's loving. She's capable of leading a much better life. I'm very concerned for this child's future. Why are they letting this happen with her? Does Megan's mental illness and selfishness trump (no pun intended) what is required to raise a child with DS to be a polite young lady? Can't anyone do or say anything? Where the hell is numbnuts? Surely he can see what is happening. Please forgive me if this was an inappropriate question. I care about Eve and want the best for her life. How long have these asshat parents been "raising" her? This neglect is infuriating!!!

[lmmomSD]

It wasn't an inappropriate question. The short answer is yes, Eve could definitely be taught manners. It's basically impulse control based on wanting to be kind to others. And Eve isn't a mean child. People with DS have different levels of ability based on the manifestations of the syndrome and the help they get. Eve could do so much more than she does. It's a crime the way they don't help her, or any of their kids really, achieve their potential.

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[MervelllaB]

My children don’t have Down Syndrome but both are on the Autistic Spectrum. I’ve always been infuriated with people who put “bad behaviour” down to autism or Down Syndrome or whatever.
Yes, those children have difficulties which lead them to become frustrated more quickly or make situations challenging for them. However, you can’t just excuse unacceptable behaviour in those situations. You have to give young people the tools to deal with the things they find challenging and reflect on situations, which haven’t been dealt with well.
Yes, children who have more severe learning needs, will have a more difficult time learning to use those tools or reflecting on behaviour. However, that doesn’t mean you don’t work tirelessly to help them.
Our mantra for our children was that autism was not an excuse for bad behaviour. Regardless of their difficulties, there was a certain standard of behaviour required. My eldest daughter had one to one, TA when she was at school. When she was about 13, she really hated it. On one occasion - one occasion only- she was rude to the TA. Her Head of Year and Special Needs Coordinator said that if another child had been rude like that, they would have been disciplined. We told them if that was the case, our daughter should also be disciplined. They were quite shocked. The special needs coordinator said most parents like us would be using their child’s autism as an excuse for the rude behaviour. However, from our perspective, it wasn’t an excuse. We spoke to our daughter and explained that no matter how frustrated she is, she cannot be rude to other people. We gave her alternatives, which included asking for time out or simply explaining why she was frustrated. We also insisted she apologise to the TA - and she did.
Obviously our daughter was at a level where she could understand this. However, I can understand why it would be much more difficult for a child like Eve with no speech - that is all the more reason why they should help her with her language. Eve is a bright young lady. Sure, she has Down Syndrome but she copes fantastically, given her circumstances. She understands everything that is said to her. She has learnt a whole second language. She just needs some help to speak it. I was angry at Mike when he complained about her slamming doors and catching her cousin’s finger. They haven’t given Eve the tools to deal with frustration and anger. Therefore, she slammed the door and injured her cousin’s finger. She has no outlet for her frustration. She hasn’t been helped to develop coping mechanisms. Yes, she’s absolutely capable of learning not to slam doors in frustration BUT they haven’t given her the tools to express her frustration in any other way. It’s disgraceful.
When my children were young, all I thought about was how I could equip them for the best life they could possibly have. My eldest was diagnosed aged 4. We didn’t know what the future held for her. We weren’t going to leave it to chance. I did everything with in my power to make sure, she had everything she needed. I gave up my job because she needed me at home. In Northern Ireland, special needs provision is very hard to secure. It was a full-time job in itself, fighting for support.
I didn’t have time for my own interests or for thrifting or date nights. Nothing mattered but my children. That’s why I just don’t understand Megan. She doesn’t have any attachment to her birth children, never mind the adopted ones. It’s so bizarre.


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[Howlin17]

So today we’re back at the same beach, collecting skanky feathers. I think Eve has such potential to be so much more than they’re setting her up, for but if ANYONE, DS or not, snatched something out of my hand the way Eve grabbed those feathers it would be the very last time she would ever do it

I loved seeing Granny holding Esther on the way into the gelato shop. I don’t think I’ve ever seen M&M show any of the kids that sort of basic level affection in the many, many hours of footage they’ve uploaded. The fact it was unusual to see and stood out speaks volumes. Quite frankly they’re 2 adults who shouldn’t have bred, and i don’t say that lightly.

I didn’t finish watching yesterday’s offering. I stopped when these selfish fucks took THE WHOLE FAMILY to the airport after dragging 2 elderly people across the country and then back at the house pontificates about wanting to “stay safe” at the coast. Lucky we’re not in the middle of a pandemic with the US cases an embarrassment to the former administration or anything.

US cases an embarrassment to the former administration?? What does that mean?


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[lmmomSD]

@MervelllaB you put it so well! My daughter is special needs-- not Down syndrome, but definitely a syndrome that is going to affect her all her life. And yes, it was harder for her when she couldn't communicate easily, and she had to learn to not only deal with frustration about whatever situation she was dealing with, but frustration at her inability to articulate her needs and frustration. But we didn't and don't let her get away with bad behavior just because she is special needs. She is certainly able to understand how to treat others with decency. And that's mostly what manners are.
And everything we've done for her has been done with the goal of her having the best life she can as independently as she can.
It makes me livid that Megan and Mike aren't doing everything in their power to equip Eve with all the tools she can have to live her best life. And it's not as though they were unprepared and surprised like some parents who have a special needs child. They CHOSE to adopt her, knowing what her issues were. And they have done the absolute bare minimum to help her. It's despicable.

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[1Poodle1]

They CHOSE to adopt her, knowing what her issues were. And they have done the absolute bare minimum to help her. It's despicable.
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They basically house & feed her... both of which are subpar. They can't even get the basics right. This little girl could be delightful with good parents.

I appreciate everyone's input.

[grandmama1]

I remember Megan going to see a special needs school and she said it wasnt appropriate for Eve. The kids were just watching TV and that she would get a better education in a loving family home! I took it to mean 'we can't be arsed getting up in the morning to take Eve to school and picking her up later. We've got Esther she'll look after her'. Eve has always had behavior problems but they never correct her or the rest of the kids. They seem to wander around all day aimlessly. A school day is around 6 hours those kids never spend that much time on school work.

[jacobismom10]

As a mom with a child with Down Syndrome i do agree that some of Eve's behaviors aren't ideal. Our family has chosen to use a behavioral therapist for the last year and i can tell you our life has changed immensely. I do not remember what age eve was adopted but some of them could be left over behaviors of neglect and abuse in a orphanage. Let alone the trauma of being removed for the only place you have ever know and brought to a whole new world literally. Trauma can be hard especially in special needs children and will manifest in all sorts of different ways. I agree with many of you that Eve has so much potential and with some minimal work she could be thriving.

I hate to even type this or manifest this but my biggest fear is abuse from the bio boys. She wouldn't be able to communicate it and even if she did would they believe her? I don't know how many know this but the LDS faith is very sexually oppressed. No sexual thoughts no masterbaution ( this is a question you are asked before serving a mission, and if you have you can be denied serving ) girls are even taught to dress modestly as to not tempt boys. Like girls have any control of what boys think. Boys are even taught to tie there hands down at night to prevent touching themselves at night. That sort of deprivation can lead to abuse and hiding that abuse.

Also i know in the beach video they said Eve and Jude were going to be baptized. If you are interested these are the questions that are asked alone in a room with a male authority figure in the church. If this doesn't disturb you it should.

Do you believe that God is our Eternal Father? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Savior and Redeemer of the world?”

“Do you believe the Church and gospel of Jesus Christ have been restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith? Do you believe that [current Church President] is a prophet of God? What does this mean to you?”

“What does it mean to you to repent? Do you feel that you have repented of your past transgressions?”

“Have you ever committed a serious crime? If so, are you now on probation or parole? Have you ever participated in an abortion? a homosexual relationship?”

“You have been taught that membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints includes living gospel standards. What do you understand of the following standards? Are you willing to obey them?”

The law of chastity, which prohibits any sexual relationship outside the bonds of a legal marriage between a man and a woman.

The law of tithing.

The Word of Wisdom.

The Sabbath day, including partaking of the sacrament weekly and rendering service to fellow members.

“When you are baptized, you covenant with God that you are willing to take upon yourself the name of Christ and keep His commandments throughout your life. Are you ready to make this covenant and strive to be faithful to it?”




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[MervelllaB]

I suppose the biggest question in my mind about the finger incident was, why was Eve so frustrated that she slammed the door.
I mean, I’m not so much thinking of abuse, as was she being teased in some way by the other children? Is she an easy target for them to wind up or make fun of? Something happened to make her react the way she did. Why did she slam the door that day and why were all those children not being supervised?
She is vulnerable, in so many ways


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[lmmomSD]

And they ask those questions of 8 year olds. 8 year olds who have been told from birth that this is expected of them. Funny that they say some things don't matter because Eve wouldn't understand them anyway, but they are planning on baptizing her?


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[1Poodle1]

You've got to be kidding!!!!!!! That is so disturbing I can hardly believe it's true. Didn't someone here mention recently that teen suicide is higher in the Mormon faith? Well with early pressure like that, the burden these children bear is just too much. This is so very sad and disturbing.

[jacobismom10]

Yes at 8 they ask these questions alone in a room with a man who is old enough to either be their father or grandfather. They also belive special needs children are "perfect" so they don't really need to be baptized. It is left up to the family to decide. I want to know with Eve's limited communication how did she answer? I can go into more detail of what the lds church believes about SN kids if you are interested. I am a special needs mom and will soon be a apostate of the church.

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[jacobismom10]

You've got to be kidding!!!!!!! That is so disturbing I can hardly believe it's true. Didn't someone here mention recently that teen suicide is higher in the Mormon faith? Well with early pressure like that, the burden these children bear is just too much. This is so very sad and disturbing.

Yes Utah male teens have a much higher suicide rate then other states.

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[ITSMYOPINION]

Please everyone check out that link.

This girl is about a year younger than Eve. Look how some love, attention, and empathy can change someone's behavior/personality. Also probably some serious parenting and therapies are the reason.
Her Tiktok is DownRightWorthy. I don't have tiktok because I'm 42, but I'm sure it's amazing.

[sunnyshine]

Any thoughts on why Eve & Jude are being baptized at the same time? Like Jude is 8 and she's 11(?), I thought usually they got baptized at a certain age so I wasn't sure if anyone had insight as to whether Jude is getting baptized early or Eve is late??

[jacobismom10]

Any thoughts on why Eve & Jude are being baptized at the same time? Like Jude is 8 and she's 11(?), I thought usually they got baptized at a certain age so I wasn't sure if anyone had insight as to whether Jude is getting baptized early or Eve is late??

Yes most lds kids get baptized at 8. That is the magical age of accountability for them, when a kid knows right from wrong. Eve is getting baptized late i am not sure as to why? As i have said mormons believe special needs kids were perfect in heavenly before being born. So all the need is a physical body to achieve the highest level of heaven. This is also leverage and a manipulation tool the church uses against families. If you don't live a perfect life your child will reach the celestial ( highest level ) and you won't and you will be separated from your child. To baptize a special needs child in the lds church is left up to the parents discretion. So M&M are choosing to have her baptized.

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