8 Passengers: Spreading a Disease while Doing As I Please | Part #16

[Parktown]

All I’m hearing is Kevin thinks I’m worthless and stupid!
Also I don’t think this was for views! I think there is something more sinister here! I think this could possibly be insurance fraud! Before she wanted to change the cabinets in the previous house burnt this beans! Now she wants to change the carpet! I don’t even think she tells Kevin even! Her manner looked purely psychotic when she was telling us!

[yoyo16]

How did they have to go without power for days? Here if it gets shut off, you can make a payment over the phone, and it's back on. And about the companies not shutting things off because of the virus, I think where I am, you have to call and let them know that you have issues paying your bill. But I could be wrong. And in Utah, they don't have a statewide order to stay home, so things might be different.

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I do wonder if this was hyped up for the vlog. If Kevin is too checked out to have already taken steps, he better take the checkbook and bills away from Ruby, now. Those are the consequences for being absentminded, Ruby.

I wonder if she received a scam phone call that pretended to be the electric company and threatened to cut off electricity within a certain amount of time if she doesn’t send money in some form. The way she made it sound was that the electricity wasn’t shut off yet, but it would be soon. I can see her falling for a scam like this, especially if she’s as forgetful as she claims to be.


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[athyker]

Ruby is a do as I say not as I do parent. If one of the kids had left the water on and flooded HER house they'd probably have been sent away. Or had to sleep on the floor with no blankets. Being military I have lived all over and I can't think of one place I've lived where you can't set up auto-pay on your water or electric.

I can't get over how self centered Ruby is. Kevin has every right to be mad at her. She is so into herself and youtube that everything else comes last. Including her poor kids. If I were Kevin I'd be telling her to put the damn camera down for a month and get her shit together.

[orcaandsims9617]

Can't believe Ruby would forget such an important thing as paying the water and electricity bill. Unless she is purposely doing it for views and attention which wouldn't surprise me at all. Also I don't think her causing a flood was an accident, same with the burning pot on the stove. She is manipulative and knows how to get what she wants. Truly disgusting.

[nikki20031]

Ruby and Kevin's marriage seems off. . . Way off. . .They just don't mesh together at all. Maybe its their narcissistic personalities that prevent them from genuinely forming an emotional connection.

When Kevin was pecking Ruby's neck, she stood there like a dead fish. Ruby only gives and displays affection when she's getting other people's attention.

She secretly wanted Kevin and his undivided attention at home during the pandemic, yet he's hardly ever there. Where is he? Maybe he says he's working but is secretly with someone else. He gives off cheating vibes.

The laundry room incident and not paying bills are Ruby's ploy to get more attention. Why even film and share that with everyone? Abbey and Julie having to clean up after her and go for walks with her to make her feel better.

Also, why would Chad leave his light on when water is dripping through? That seems like another accident waiting to happen.

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The barrettes in Rubies hair we’re distracting

I wonder what their insurance rates are with these “accidents “??

[Alycat_2001_uk]

"When my kids feel sad or stressed they don't come to me" jeez I'm so shocked Ruby.
Obviously it's not always going to be possible to fix everything (for example it's not in a parent's control to end Coronavirus) but it is absolutely your job to try and make them feel as safe and happy as you can.
Saying to your kids "Hey, I know it sucks right now, but it's to make sure you're safe. It won't be forever, but I will try and spend time playing with you to make it suck a bit less. I know it isn't the same, but this is only for a bit." Is really easy to do. Of course, that would mean you also have to play with your kids too.
Eve was definitely acting for the camera, but I think she is likely genuinely struggling too. She's missing her friends, so you explain to her that she can see them again in a month or two, and set up some online playdates.

[Audrey3196]

I truly don’t think I’ve met a parent who wouldn’t move mountains to try and make their children feel happy and safe. Of course parents can’t always fix the problem but they should always be a safe place for their children and Ruby has just absolved herself of that. Saying your children don’t come to you when they’re sad or stressed isn’t a parenting victory. I remember being in college and just calling my mom when I was stressed and venting and just being happy to have her listen, of course she couldn’t write all my papers and take my exams but having someone who listened and was willing to help me calm down was a huge relief during stressful periods. Ruby has entirely washed her hands of the emotional side of parenting, of course you can’t fix all of your children’s problems but they should be able to share their emotions with you without being told “it’s up to you to fix it” “well I’m sorry you chose to be sad”

[imoverit]

“It’s not my job to make her feel better”. Wow. I don’t know if this was just poor wording, she says it many times so I don’t think it is. No she doesn’t have to fix her kids’ problems, or the world’s. But it IS certainly her job to make them feel better, comforted, secure. It’s crazy how Eve plays things up for the camera, and the fact that she asked to film it is just insane. This is what Ruby has caused, fake emotion and drama.

I hope this popular trend of making everything in the house white changes the second Ruby’s all-white home renovations are finished

[endellion]

The video with Eve was disturbing. I'm not a parent, but I can't help but judge Ruby for not being there emotionally for her young child who is obviously in distress. Eve just needed a few words of comfort and reassurance yet Ruby refused to offer them. Why??? All she had to do was tell the truth - that things will get better soon and that it won't last forever. I don't understand why Ruby can't say those simple words. Eve is very young and needs a MOTHER , not a detached pseudo-therapist who just listens without comforting her at all.

[tn37185mp]

Ruby is a manipulator and cold-hearted woman. The video with Eve was eerie and absurd. I pray these kids turn out somewhat normal. Shari seems to have a lot of Ruby’s ways. Julie and Abby actually seem “normal” and Eve is too young to tell, but I sense she will follow closely in Ruby’s pattern. The boys are polar opposites. I think Chad sees through a lot of his parents bullshit. Russell struggles a lot.

Ruby needs to learn how to be a mother, a comforter, a guide, a confidant, a friend, a supporter and not some freaking life coach persona that turns every situation with her kids into a therapy session. My husband and I don’t have kids but almost all of our friends do. I have nieces and nephews and NONE of them have kids that are stressing over this situation in the manner that Eve is stressing. Why? Because they have parents that are making the best of a bad situation. They are finding creative ways to spend time with their families. It goes to show you the type of parenting and environment goes down in the Franke household.

[Happy+Charlie]

The video with Eve was disturbing. I'm not a parent, but I can't help but judge Ruby for not being there emotionally for her young child who is obviously in distress. Eve just needed a few words of comfort and reassurance yet Ruby refused to offer them. Why??? All she had to do was tell the truth - that things will get better soon and that it won't last forever. I don't understand why Ruby can't say those simple words. Eve is very young and needs a MOTHER , not a detached pseudo-therapist who just listens without comforting her at all.

Holy crap, she is a lunatic! What a sad world this would be if most parents felt the way that Ruby feels. God, why did this woman have children? She is such a cold bitch. I really feel bad for those kids to have such a void person as a parent--what the hell!

Ruby, why was there a need to vlog this with Eve, you want her to be your lab rat for the books you are reading--she is your child, first, and foremost. Stop using your children this way, and mother them in private. You will defend it by saying there are viewers that want to see the raw stuff, this is intimate, and we will respect you more for not exploiting your child's every emotion. Also, no no thanks on directing people to "Our Startup Family." You are the last person that should be following this idiot wisdom. You are already devoid of any emotions your children feel, you do not love them and take care of them unconditionally, as a mother should, and this logic is just more crap to throw on top of your pile.

[Happy+Charlie]

Ruby is a manipulator and cold-hearted woman. The video with Eve was eerie and absurd. I pray these kids turn out somewhat normal. Shari seems to have a lot of Ruby’s ways. Julie and Abby actually seem “normal” and Eve is too young to tell, but I sense she will follow closely in Ruby’s pattern. The boys are polar opposites. I think Chad sees through a lot of his parents bullshit. Russell struggles a lot.

Ruby needs to learn how to be a mother, a comforter, a guide, a confidant, a friend, a supporter and not some freaking life coach persona that turns every situation with her kids into a therapy session. My husband and I don’t have kids but almost all of our friends do. I have nieces and nephews and NONE of them have kids that are stressing over this situation in the manner that Eve is stressing. Why? Because they have parents that are making the best of a bad situation. They are finding creative ways to spend time with their families. It goes to show you the type of parenting and environment goes down in the Franke household.

She has also said she is not responsible for their entertainment or giving them ideas when they are bored. If they are bored, it's their problem to figure out why and fix it. Now I see why the couple connected with Ruby and Kevin if they see no problem with their parenting.

[Alycat_2001_uk]

I truly don’t think I’ve met a parent who wouldn’t move mountains to try and make their children feel happy and safe. Of course parents can’t always fix the problem but they should always be a safe place for their children and Ruby has just absolved herself of that. Saying your children don’t come to you when they’re sad or stressed isn’t a parenting victory. I remember being in college and just calling my mom when I was stressed and venting and just being happy to have her listen, of course she couldn’t write all my papers and take my exams but having someone who listened and was willing to help me calm down was a huge relief during stressful periods. Ruby has entirely washed her hands of the emotional side of parenting, of course you can’t fix all of your children’s problems but they should be able to share their emotions with you without being told “it’s up to you to fix it” “well I’m sorry you chose to be sad”

Sadly I have met parents like that. It usually means that you look at a kid and think "this explains so much"

[Happy+Charlie]

I truly don’t think I’ve met a parent who wouldn’t move mountains to try and make their children feel happy and safe. Of course parents can’t always fix the problem but they should always be a safe place for their children and Ruby has just absolved herself of that. Saying your children don’t come to you when they’re sad or stressed isn’t a parenting victory. I remember being in college and just calling my mom when I was stressed and venting and just being happy to have her listen, of course she couldn’t write all my papers and take my exams but having someone who listened and was willing to help me calm down was a huge relief during stressful periods. Ruby has entirely washed her hands of the emotional side of parenting, of course you can’t fix all of your children’s problems but they should be able to share their emotions with you without being told “it’s up to you to fix it” “well I’m sorry you chose to be sad”

Sadly I have met parents like that. It usually means that you look at a kid and think "this explains so much"

Exactly. I just don't get it, Ruby is a Christian, is able to provide for her children, doesn't seem to face stress that a lot of other parents face, appears to have had a loving home growing up, and doesn't appear to suffer with an addiction, how does she miss the boat so much. Clearly a personality disorder going on here.

[rulatows000]

First of all, what is with Ruby's fixation on Eve and getting her to cry and have these deep conversations with the camera? When your kid comes to you crying late at night, you should not go grab the camera and make it into a show for everyone to see. I know that Eve is probably struggling, but I'm sure she came to her mom expressing in her own childish way that she misses her friends and normalcy, then I'm almost positive Ruby fed her the lines, coaxed some tears, and made her act for the camera. I know the Tannerites/Yawi Family has admitted to re-enacting scenes if they miss something, so I have a strong feeling that's what Ruby is doing anytime she has these 'talks' with Eve because the conversation just doesn't seem natural or what a six year old would express on her own.

Secondly, "I don't want my kids to come to me when they're sad or stressed, because I want them to fix it on their own." Wtf?! Who says that? I don't have kids, but if I did I would say to them the exact thing I tell my boyfriend when he's struggling with anything - which is that I know I might not be able to fix everything, but I'm sure as hell going to be here if you ever need a shoulder to cry on or just someone to rant to and I will do everything I can to help. My heart just breaks for those kids and I really, really worry for them if they're suffering anything like severe depression or anxiety and are being forced to keep it to themselves and carry it all alone.

[athyker]

Ruby,

This is what's wrong with you. You think it's acceptable to record things that shouldn't be. This was a private moment between you and your six years old. You are a disgrace to life coaches!!!!!!!!! I would be mortified to hear my kids won't come to me if they're stressed or feeling upset. You are their safe space. You are so detached from your kids it's sickening.

Not everything needs to be on youtube. It seems as though the Griffiths girls are all about themselves and their kids and husbands are problems to them. So disgusting!

[golden12345f]

Ruby and Kevin's marriage seems off. . . Way off. . .They just don't mesh together at all. Maybe its their narcissistic personalities that prevent them from genuinely forming an emotional connection.

When Kevin was pecking Ruby's neck, she stood there like a dead fish. Ruby only gives and displays affection when she's getting other people's attention.

She secretly wanted Kevin and his undivided attention at home during the pandemic, yet he's hardly ever there. Where is he? Maybe he says he's working but is secretly with someone else. He gives off cheating vibes.

I'm sorry but I finally have to speak up and say that I really don't think it's appropriate that people speculate and create rumours about Kevin cheating and having another family. As much as I agree about many things that are said on here, this is something that could truly break up a family. Many times people have said that they hope Ruby sees this forum or that they hope the kids see this to open their eyes to reality, but imagine coming on here and reading that your husband/father may be having an affair, and that they have a whole other family that you don't know about. Whether it's true or not, these sort of rumours and speculations have a way of creating conflict that could put a huge strain on their marriage, which would negatively affect their children. As much as I may disagree with many of the things Ruby does and her parenting style, I would never, EVER wish any sort of disharmony to someones lives and their children. I just think it's important to realise that although they can be controversial, we should remember that they are real people, with real lives and real emotions.

[ctx2002]

Secondly, "I don't want my kids to come to me when they're sad or stressed, because I want them to fix it on their own." Wtf?! Who says that? I don't have kids, but if I did I would say to them the exact thing I tell my boyfriend when he's struggling with anything - which is that I know I might not be able to fix everything, but I'm sure as hell going to be here if you ever need a shoulder to cry on or just someone to rant to and I will do everything I can to help. My heart just breaks for those kids and I really, really worry for them if they're suffering anything like severe depression or anxiety and are being forced to keep it to themselves and carry it all alone.

Agreed. That last line you wrote is one of the things I worry about the most with all the kids, some more than others. I could understand it more if they are fully grown adults and coming to you with minor problems, but that's a horrible attitude to take to your growing kids when they are feeling stressed or sad.

That sense of emotional coldness/detachment, which the kids can pick up on regardless of how Ruby acts on camera, is one of the reasons I bet at least couple of the kids will have serious issues with anxiety and/or depression as they get older (and hide it as much as they can). I've mentioned before, but I can imagine Abby or Julie finally snapping on their mom sometime in their early 20's and letting all their pent up frustration/resentment out in a screaming match.

Today was one of those vlogs that I watched mostly on mute, because I know I'd just be cringing at whatever was being said. I find it interesting that Eve rarely looks at Ruby when talking to her while the camera is on her. She stares into the camera the whole conversation. She's the kid in the family that has grown up really only knowing mom as a vlogger with a camera in her hand all the time.

[Catface2]

All the Griffiths sisters are baby hatchers...not mothers. Real Mothers are nurturing and have unconditional love for their children. I’m no helicopter mom, but I would move heaven and earth to be there for my kids..whatever they needed. Of course they have to learn how to do for themselves...but you have to teach them, guide them with love and support. These sisters are missing something in their genetic code that is just all abt them...nobody else matters. Their so cold and calculating it’s disgusting. Shameful