B4bfmmom wrote:aussiek99 wrote:Can I just say that there's absolutely nothing wrong with a father bathing his daughter or visibly tending to her needs; the problem with Tyson is that he is posing in a sexually suggestive manner and then getting his daughters to do the same thing. Say, for example, there's nothing wrong with taking a photo of a 3 year old poking her tongue out (though it is impolite) or making a kissy face, but the fact that Tyson poses this way in order to look 'sexy'
and obviously encourages his daughters to do the same changes the whole connotation of what is a seemingly innocent gesture.
I don't agree with sexualising 3 year olds. They're children. They don't have breasts. But I can see where everyone is coming from in this situation- they are attempting to make their children look more mature and the fact that they're broadcasting it on such a large platform that is easily accessible to pedophiles is seriously dangerous and irresponsible (but when are these parents ever responsible?). Maybe it's just where I come from, but it's not unusual to let your children (around 4 and under) go to the beach nude. It's not sexual or suggestive at all, and nudity isn't as taboo as it is in the US. What can be perceived as suggestive, though, is the 'womanly' low cut, sheer dresses they've placed the girls in, which I'm sure some pedo is getting his kicks out of.
I agree it is fine for fathers to bathe their little girls, kiss them, love on them, take funny faced pictures with them. My daughter is 21 so Lord knows my memory is not what it was beck then. She could have been 4 or 5. What I am saying is when a dad, especially, a normal dad that is, gets the vibe, feeling, can see his little girl is beginning to be more shy or embarassed with any of these things, he knows it’s time to back away and not continue to do certain things. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him...it’s a normal process of growing up. We all know TB refuses the let HIS GIRLS grow up. I’m also saying my husband probably felt more nervous about her ever feeling that embarrassment than she felt being embarrassed, if that makes sense. He would have NEVER wanted the embarrassment to start. He’s a pretty good guy.
I think it’s fine for either parent to kiss their kids on the lips...until the kid, again, starts to shy away from it, as is normal.
With this scumbag though, and even with her view of “always so beautiful”, thus, the over the top high dollar outfits and photo shoots, they have taken so much too far and in many ways crossed that line of “innocent or sexual”. She may not see it that way, but my gut tells me he is aware they’ve pushed and he’s crossed that line. For goodness sake, at 19 he made passes and flirted enough with her, at a mere 13, he crossed THAT line then and she didn’t see it as a bad, bizarre thing. She was flattered an older guy fell in love with her. (So freakin weird.)
Yes, in this country we believe more in covering up. I don’t mind little girls being shirtless...but when it’s time for a bra, dear God, get your daughter a bra. I’ve been in classes with even 2nd grade (7 - 8 yr. old) girls who really need a “training bra” or now sports bra because girls are developing faster now. Not to cover her up so much as to not have her embarrassed or laughed at by others. It’s painful seeing 4th grade girls “cover” themselves with their arms because they are completely embarrassed but Mom won’t buy them a bra.
The sadest thing about all of this is little girls or boys shouldn’t be sexual objects at any age. But there are horrible, sick perverts out there who are more than happy to take what you posted in pride and love of your precious child and turn those beautiful pictures into something bad for their and many others pure, sexual, perverted, horrific pleasure.
We live in a world where anyone can connect with anyone else, known or not. This can be a wonderful thing. Like here, for instance, people from other countries can share thoughts, agree or disagree and communicate in a wonderful way and even become friends. But with any good, there is also an evil. We all know what that evil is in this case and we want a “father” of 4 precious little girls to STOP putting them out there for the evil to abuse in the most sickening way. Plain and simple. And IF this father truly loved and cared about his girls, he would step back, see, understand and admit to himself he needs to stop putting HIS DAUGHTERS out there to be abused this way; the most disgusting way imaginable. But he doesn’t. He laughs and mocks and puts out day after day after day more and more pictures, which, in turn, makes it more disturbing knowing HE KNOWS how they are being used by the worst scum of the earth...and he doesn’t seem to care in the least. So, of course, people see his continuing to put his girls (and himself freakishly) out there to be abused by sexual predators, after being told and admiting he (and she) knows, as a clear sign it doesn’t bother him one bit and perhaps he enjoys the same behavior himself.
Thank you assiek99. I have enjoyed discussing this with you. I dream of going to England, Australia and New Zealand some day. I’m pretty sure we could get together for lunch (not sure what you call a midday meal.) and have lovely time.