Tannerites/YAWI: Failing our kids as they fail homeschool | Part 2

[Lujan]

Hi all! I'm new here.
I liked the wedding vlog and loved Mara's dress.
I don't think Mara's family is Mormon.
Are Mormons gay friendly?

It depends were and what state you in. In utah not so much, in the parts of the not ethier, but in las vegas there cool about it

'Mormons' as in the religion are against homosexuality, transgender and everything else that isn't male + female = marriage. Individual Mormons differ as to if they are accepting of it or not and how accepting of it they are. The mum of Crazy Pieces has been a surrogate for 2 men in a relationship, the Crazy Middles have a gay child whom they were fully accepting off even before adopting him. I imagine that Johnny and Sara as 'ok' about it as IIRC they've attended a same-sex wedding before.
A lot of God-believing people know what the bible says but also realise that it is not truly a sin to be in love with the same sex as yourself.

The reason I asked it's because in the video, one of Mara's brothers is dancing with another guy.

[chrisb332]

Supposedly Allie ate Avocado and had a allergic reaction. She was claiming to have a severe migraine and horrible stomach aches. Ive never had a migraine, but I have had severe headaches due to being out in the heat and dehydration, and I certainly cannot film and talk as much as she was. Also if I were severely nauseous I would not be filming myself. Her mom then gives her child Benadryl, and she is an adult. Im not saying Allie wasnt sick and feeling bad, i just feel this family is so medically misinformed. How is Allie going to live on her own if she needs her mom to giver her childrens medicine to feel better?

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Supposedly Allie ate Avocado and had a allergic reaction. She was claiming to have a severe migraine and horrible stomach aches. Ive never had a migraine, but I have had severe headaches due to being out in the heat and dehydration, and I certainly cannot film and talk as much as she was. Also if I were severely nauseous I would not be filming myself. Her mom then gives her child Benadryl, and she is an adult. Im not saying Allie wasnt sick and feeling bad, i just feel this family is so medically misinformed. How is Allie going to live on her own if she needs her mom to giver her childrens medicine to feel better?

Not sure.. I do know they all need to go have a full physical, and a full allergy test, to find out their allergies, to avoid them.. and maybe start allergy shots. I have never had any food allergy cause me a stomach ache outside of milk... if I were to have avocado I would go into anaphylactic shock and need my epi pen. My throat and tongue swell, and I get hives everywhere.. but, milk... I get so nauseous I start to vomit, get light headed, etc.. I've been allergic to milk since I was born. I am not sure why Allie didn't think to take Benedryl herself, or why they don't have adult Benedryl in the house. Kinda weird. I also think it's weird how they've said many times, that a few of them are allergic to eggs (I think the yolk?) but yet they are constantly eating egg... I don't know about anyone else, but.. I try to avoid my allergens, it sucks to have an allergy attack and I don't wanna use my epi pen and be rushed to the ER.

[dontwannah8]

what happened to Allie's last job? That didn't last long. Sounds like the new one could be some kind of pyramid scheme but the parents are encouraging.... She'll learn fast that it isn't that easy.

[HeyKatie]

Isn’t Allie supposed to be moving soon? I hope she didn’t quit a good FT job to do some sort of pyramid scheme.


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[ThisIsMeCeej]

what happened to Allie's last job? That didn't last long. Sounds like the new one could be some kind of pyramid scheme but the parents are encouraging.... She'll learn fast that it isn't that easy.

It probably had something to do with her parents.. they probably caused her to be late to work too often for their own sake.. or probably kept on her about how much she wasn't home etc.. I wouldn't put it past them. They probably want her to be home until she gets married, and not off at some job, making her own way in the world.

[chrisb332]

what happened to Allie's last job? That didn't last long. Sounds like the new one could be some kind of pyramid scheme but the parents are encouraging.... She'll learn fast that it isn't that easy.

It probably had something to do with her parents.. they probably caused her to be late to work too often for their own sake.. or probably kept on her about how much she wasn't home etc.. I wouldn't put it past them. They probably want her to be home until she gets married, and not off at some job, making her own way in the world.

I also wonder if some of it is due to maturity issues too. Allie went from being barely homeschooled and getting to travel to Disney and do other YouTube things on a whim to working a full-time 9-5 job. That's a huge adjustment. She was late on like the 2nd day because of her mom, and I can imagine there were more situations. I also think Allie probably struggled acting adult in her position. She seems to get stressed very easily and can only hold conversations with girls that are significantly younger then her or equally as immature as her. Don't get me wrong I love Disney and enjoy talking to others about it. But Allie lives like her dream would be to live at a Disney park. I honestly think she struggle to separate Disney life and real life. It's fun to talk about the different Cinderella movies, but Allie talks about the princesses like they are real people and that she want to be best friends with them. Allie wants to desperately to be independent and grow up, but I don't believe she has the tools for that. I think she would truly benefit from going to college, even BYU, and using that period to mature and experiment with independence. Even going on a mission, note I'm not Mormon and have lots of problems with the religion, would be a benefit to her as it would cause her to leave that house and interact with real people.

[chrisb332]

Also selling Cutco knives is 100% a scam. She got hired quickly because they don't really care who they hire, i believe your hired even before the interview. It's not quite a sketchy MLM as you don't have to recruit people, but it's sketchy nonetheless. I actually feel bad for Allie, this job is going to quickly fizzle out on her. Search Cutco on Reddit and you will see lots of the negatives of them.

[Notsure]

Cut co. Great. I remember our Mormon neighbor that was in high school sold them and did a meeting demonstration at our house for my mom that was back in the 98. I think she didn’t end up buying anything. It’s not as back as most pyramids but nothing to be surprised about getting. I bet Johnny told her she has to get a new job if she quit or got fired from the other. Prolly got laid off from covid im thinking. But still she deserves better than cut co.

[Bundysar]

[rulatows000]

I am confused about Allie. She said awhile ago that she's moving away in like a month, but now she hasn't mentioned anything else about leaving and doesn't seem to be preparing to leave anytime soon. What happened to her job? Did she get fired, laid off because of corona, or quit? For some reason I do kind of feel like she must've quit. Just seems like too short a time to get fired and if it was because of corona I feel like they'd have used it for footage. Either her parents made her quit or she couldn't handle the responsibility and quit. But, yes, Cutco is a scam. You don't get paid hourly, you have to make appointments or something and if you don't make enough appointments or sell enough you have to pay for the product yourself. I don't think she's going to make any money doing that and she probably doesn't fully realize what exactly she's going to be doing either.

You'd think her parents would talk her out of it, instead of encouraging her. However, they only seem to be concerned with how she'll be able to do all her work 100% from home. They seem very set on having their adult children living with them as long as possible. I really don't understand how Allie and Branson can be 18 and 22 and have literally no sense of direction for what they want in life at all. I, mean, yes, Allie has her Disney princess dream... but now she's trying to stay home and sell Cutco knives after quitting a real full-time job after, what, a week of working there? Branson is married living at his parents second home and not doing anything besides making dumb Youtube videos. Danielle is only sixteen and she's already way ahead of both of them with trying to take cosmetology classes. At least she's found something she's passionate and good at that she could make a decent career out of. Just so strange. I know the parents are part of the problem in sheltering those kids and not encouraging them to go to college or get real work experience, but part of it has got to be those kids themselves. I grew up in a very strict, sheltered, homeschooling family, but I still managed to get free of them, go to college, and I've been working constantly to care for myself and have a life apart from my family since the day I turned 18. Allie and Branson just seem very confused about what adult life entails and they seem to really lack motivation to gain independence.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Today's vlog... idk why but, it made me feel bad for Allie. I am guessing, she lost her job due to Covid now, and so she can't move... and now she's an afterthought in the bedroom situation. I understand Daniell being excited for her own room, and she didn't seem dismayed at still having to share with Allie at all... but, it was Sarah that p!ssed me off. Her "She was SUPPOSED to move out" comment. Like, life doesn't change, sh!t doesn't happen... I mean, Allie could have gotten extremely sick and have to remain at home being taken care of, but instead, she's healthy and just has to remain home until things normalize, to whatever normal is to come. She should feel grateful for that. Not... annoyed, as her tone let on. I have noticed lately in the vlogs, that Sarah has been so much more close to Daniell than she ever has been with Allie... I never saw her have Allie take her places driving, only "Allie go to the store FOR me" so, her comment today just made me feel bad, like... Sarah wants to get rid of Allie, in some way. And I honestly was happy that Johnny suggested letting Allie have the guest room and fix it up the way she wants, that was decent of him. But, good lord.. Sarah p!ssed me off so much.

[rulatows000]

That was kind of weird how they just went ahead and gave Danielle a full sized bed even though they knew that plans had changed. They could've put Danielle in the guest room instead of having her take over Allie's room. I do feel bad for Allie... but I felt it was pretty predictable that her Disney thing wasn't going to pan out with the coronavirus situation. I'm not sure how/why they already somehow had plans in motion for her to move with the current situation. But, yeah, it is annoying that Sarah and Johnny kept commenting on how she was suppose to move and are trying to kick her out of her own room.

Maybe it's just me, but I've always felt like Sarah has bad attitudes towards all her daughters, not just Allie. Her and Danielle seem to get along better now, but there were a lot of vlogs where Sarah was very mean to Danielle about her behaviors and attitude, and seemed like Danielle was always in trouble for no reason. Sarah is always mean to the little girls, pushing them out of the way or being annoyed at them for crying. In one recent vlog, I think it was Lizzie, was trying desperately to show Johnny that she put all the chocolate chips in some container and they all ignored her. Then Sarah snapped at her to do the dishwasher. She's just very snappish and easily annoyed anytime it comes to the girls. She seemed like she waited on Branson hand and foot and was always crying about him leaving and wanting him to stay with them forever. So seems pretty weird that now she's annoyed that Allie is staying with them instead of leaving when she's only 18 and they had Branson living with them until 22. I really can't stand parents who have double standards when it comes to their daughters vs. their sons, but it really seems like that's how Sarah and Johnny are. Branson is allowed to live with them as long as he wants while being jobless, gets phone privileges, and has Sarah gushing about him all the time, and we all know Canyon could get away with murder if he wanted to. Then when it comes to the girls they want them gone at 18, have tons of ridiculous rules, take their phones away all the time, and snap at them for every little thing.

[Notsure]

Yup they are officially the most controlling parents ever. So this is Ali’s first real job from someone she doesn’t know? AkA Not from a close family friend job. Probably the only real job Johnny would let her do. And it’s not even a job job. Almost like a vacation timeshare seller or what you see at the free demo booths at the fair. She is still under her parents controlling eye from home while “working” remotely spam calling people. Just because her parents were young, wild and lived life they don’t trust their kids. Why can’t she work at a Bahama Bucks(they even have sundays off) and have a real teenager summer job Oh wait she might have wild ways if she is out in the real world and might get future Molly Mormon corrupt . You can’t control your adult daughter for life because you guys were wild and didn’t have parents hover over you 24/7 and say what jobs you have permission to do. This is the weirdest family!

Also why does Johnny wear flip flops that are too big for
his feet. Always bugged me they are huuuuuuuge flip flops compared to his feet

[Notsure]

I also think the other Mormon vloggers don’t really like them. Like April and Davy and that whole group. Maybe even after EB got hit by One of the Tanner boys swinging. Even tho they did film with them that one time family switch but after that even Davy seemed awkward around them. They never get together with them and they don’t seem to be at the same level as that whole group. Plus not Outdoor active except whole family nature walks.

Idk tanners have to all be together 24/7 no one gets alone time with parents while that whole other group has their kids have their own activities and can have time alone with their parents on errands.

They seem like the wanna be’s social climbers and are just awkward not natural vloggers compared to that whole crew. I bet they also think they think what we all feel about the family control issues the tanners have.

[lip]

Well there it is, kids: If you stay 12yo until you're 20yo, you will end up as a underpaid jobber making annoying cold calls for a shitty product.

[Lolislol26]

In Maras birthday vlog Allie interrupted as Sarah was about to cut the cake and got another utensil and said that’s what you use to cut cake or brownies. Sarah made a comment about how Allie working at *costco* paid off (from what I could tell Sarah said Costco) and then immediately Branson made a comment about how they didn’t pay Allie for training.


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[chrisb332]

I have often found most of the kids to be highly annoying. Especially As and the little girls. But I am coming to realize that they are this way because they are not getting healthy attention
It is clear Branson and Canyon are the favorites, they both can do no wrong. So Az and the girls do little stupid things to get attention.
I also agree with someone who said they are not natural vloggers/socialites. They are a kind of nerdy prefer the indoors kind of family. Which is fine, but it doesn't make for good YouTubing. The whole family is clearly socially akward and not into the dramatic adventurous lifestyle that makes for."good YouTube." There vidoes are all basically in the same 3 or 4 places. Even their vacations are the exact same every year. I think they saw a lot of growth when challenge videos were popular. But now that that has kind of died off, they just aren't interesting. Even if you remove the creepy aspect of their family dynamic, they really are a boring channel. They think it's cute when their kids take over the vlog, but a 10 minute segment of Barbie fashion shows or Az showing off his scrap collection of art is not interesting to viewers. Obviously if they were my child I would be interested and spend time investing in those things. But those are things that only family members or close friends find interesting. Not a audience of YouTube viewers.

[rulatows000]

The only kid that I can really tolerate and think is pretty normal is Danielle. She's hilarious and she seems almost like a completely normal teen - has dated boys, has hobbies, has talents, likes to geek out over Harry Potter and Marvel. She doesn't really strike me as socially awkward, just as kind of a geeky, shy teenage girl. I really don't understand why she had so many issues with school and ended up being homeschooled, when I feel like she'd fit in just fine at a regular school.

I do agree that their vlogs, especially of late, are getting kind of repetitive and boring. Especially since the whole corona situation they really haven't filmed anything besides them being at home or hiking. Most of their vlogs include a significant portion of just one of them sitting there talking to the camera, usually Johnny, Allie, or Danielle. They're definitely running out of things to film. I do wonder what will happen to them once Allie and Danielle move out. Right now they still have kind of interesting content because they've got adult children and people will watch to see what Branson and Mara are up to and when they have their first kid, and they'll have moving vlogs and new job vlogs for the girls and stuff. But once the three oldest aren't available to film daily, I don't think many people will be interested in just watching the four little kids.

Does anyone on here ever watch their Tannerites channel that they turned in a kids challenge channel? I can never get through more than a few minutes of any of them. They're completely scripted and they have the four little kids doing absolutely terrible acting. They definitely are targeting very little kids for that audience. Are those videos monetized? I know Youtube changed their rules and stuff regarding content that's directed at children, so I've always been curious as to why they made that channel a kids channel and if they get a lot of money from it because they actually do have a lot of subscribers and views on that. I think those videos do a lot better than their Yawi vlogs.

[L1g4d]

I guess they are desperate to push Allie to find a male suitor! (following Alyssa's trend in 15 dates in 15 days) I wonder who will get to chaperone those dates.