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ckks wrote:If you think the fact that she won’t pay out of pocket for progesterone shots is ridiculous or that there is any excuse why someone WHO HAS THE MONEY to pay for them (we’re not talking someone with no other options here) wouldn’t no matter what the possible issue with insurance is, then I’m willing to bet you’ve never stepped foot in a NICU. Maybe this shit just hits too close to home for me and I should stay out of it, but if you’re defending her decision to not pay for the shots that prevent preterm labor/birth until the insurance issue is resolved, you’re absolutely ridiculous.
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I never been in your shoes but my kid has been in the picu and that was hard ad and I totally agree with you on this.
ckks wrote:If you think the fact that she won’t pay out of pocket for progesterone shots is ridiculous or that there is any excuse why someone WHO HAS THE MONEY to pay for them (we’re not talking someone with no other options here) wouldn’t no matter what the possible issue with insurance is, then I’m willing to bet you’ve never stepped foot in a NICU. Maybe this shit just hits too close to home for me and I should stay out of it, but if you’re defending her decision to not pay for the shots that prevent preterm labor/birth until the insurance issue is resolved, you’re absolutely ridiculous.
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Have you stopped to think she wasn't given the option? They seemed annoyed at more than just the insurance imo. Its possible the doctor won't prescribe it yet, can you buy them online? I don't know.
I guess I'll be ridiculous then because I do understand dealing with medical issues as well - including with my own child. And I've lost a child and wouldn't wish that on anybody. I'm also on bedrest currently because I can't have a surgery since I got pregnant before an accident - which insurance is already giving me a time about having done. So I do see all sides. If they had an option to pay out of pocket, it's absolutely on them. Otherwise I can understand a little which is what I was saying. Kyra seems easily convinced to and what if a doctor originally told her she wouldn't need it?
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Lavenderlace56 wrote:Can we PLEASE just all agree to ignore chloe no matter how hard she makes it? I am so sick of every thread just full of her personal stories and acting like a victim. Every single thread I go to is filled with her and her drama and it’s ruining the site for everyone else. Is there anyway that the update to the site will have a better block/mute button? Do any mods know the answer to this? Even if that’s the only update we get id be happy
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You can "foe" people already. When you click on someone's name there's buttons to friend or foe them. I've never tried it though so I'm not sure if it works well.
ckks wrote:If you think the fact that she won’t pay out of pocket for progesterone shots is ridiculous or that there is any excuse why someone WHO HAS THE MONEY to pay for them (we’re not talking someone with no other options here) wouldn’t no matter what the possible issue with insurance is, then I’m willing to bet you’ve never stepped foot in a NICU. Maybe this shit just hits too close to home for me and I should stay out of it, but if you’re defending her decision to not pay for the shots that prevent preterm labor/birth until the insurance issue is resolved, you’re absolutely ridiculous.
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Have you stopped to think she wasn't given the option? They seemed annoyed at more than just the insurance imo. Its possible the doctor won't prescribe it yet, can you buy them online? I don't know.
I guess I'll be ridiculous then because I do understand dealing with medical issues as well - including with my own child. And I've lost a child and wouldn't wish that on anybody. I'm also on bedrest currently because I can't have a surgery since I got pregnant before an accident - which insurance is already giving me a time about having done. So I do see all sides. If they had an option to pay out of pocket, it's absolutely on them. Otherwise I can understand a little which is what I was saying. Kyra seems easily convinced to and what if a doctor originally told her she wouldn't need it?
You don’t get told no that you cannot pay out of pocket for a hormone shot that a doctor has told her is necessary or highly recommended to prevent preterm labor. I don’t get how that even makes sense?
Doesn't the doctor still have to prescribe it? That's what I was asking. Also I was saying above I was told once we started paying out of pocket and insurance found out they'd just deny every little thing. That's all. Yes she should have them if she needs them but I do think there may be more to it. They said insurance but never once said THEY wouldn't pay out of pocket so maybe it wasn't all insurance.
ckks wrote:If you think the fact that she won’t pay out of pocket for progesterone shots is ridiculous or that there is any excuse why someone WHO HAS THE MONEY to pay for them (we’re not talking someone with no other options here) wouldn’t no matter what the possible issue with insurance is, then I’m willing to bet you’ve never stepped foot in a NICU. Maybe this shit just hits too close to home for me and I should stay out of it, but if you’re defending her decision to not pay for the shots that prevent preterm labor/birth until the insurance issue is resolved, you’re absolutely ridiculous.
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Have you stopped to think she wasn't given the option? They seemed annoyed at more than just the insurance imo. Its possible the doctor won't prescribe it yet, can you buy them online? I don't know.
I guess I'll be ridiculous then because I do understand dealing with medical issues as well - including with my own child. And I've lost a child and wouldn't wish that on anybody. I'm also on bedrest currently because I can't have a surgery since I got pregnant before an accident - which insurance is already giving me a time about having done. So I do see all sides. If they had an option to pay out of pocket, it's absolutely on them. Otherwise I can understand a little which is what I was saying. Kyra seems easily convinced to and what if a doctor originally told her she wouldn't need it?
*speculating* a doctor can prescribe whatever they want, insurance or not, I’m thinking they tried to switch insurance or something since they’ve stated before that their insurance is expensive and now it’s taking forever for things to get processed.
With a pregnancy track like kyra has, she really needs those shots
But how long has she been pregnant for they knew the risk? they can afford to buy two cars , sky diving sending Oscar to Hawaii they can afford those shots insurance or not. If it came down to them selling a car and getting a cheaper one so be it but they wont they are too materialistic.
MiloandMax wrote:Doesn't the doctor still have to prescribe it? That's what I was asking. Also I was saying above I was told once we started paying out of pocket and insurance found out they'd just deny every little thing. That's all. Yes she should have them if she needs them but I do think there may be more to it. They said insurance but never once said THEY wouldn't pay out of pocket so maybe it wasn't all insurance.
This. The doctor may say let’s wait and try and get it covered. We don’t know the entire story. Maybe the doctor doesn’t see urgency yet. The doctor is the one examining her not people sitting on their phones. There is probably more to the story.
I don’t think anyone posted this. The proposal video sure gave them a huge boost. Their views have been pretty high since. Let’s see how long it lasts.
Well as someone who has had to take progesterone in order to help a pregnancy, and what I know from the medical information given by my specialist in regards to why progesterone is taken. I am going to stand firm in my thought that they can afford out of pocket and they're morons for risking this child life and Kyra's health (nothing new) in order to not pay out of pocket. Had my insurance company not covered it or gave me the run around when I was supposed to be taking a drug to help my child remain in my body (we have been over their own words and worries) I would pay out of pocket anyway I could. But hey, that is just me.
MiloandMax wrote:Doesn't the doctor still have to prescribe it? That's what I was asking. Also I was saying above I was told once we started paying out of pocket and insurance found out they'd just deny every little thing. That's all. Yes she should have them if she needs them but I do think there may be more to it. They said insurance but never once said THEY wouldn't pay out of pocket so maybe it wasn't all insurance.
This. The doctor may say let’s wait and try and get it covered. We don’t know the entire story. Maybe the doctor doesn’t see urgency yet. The doctor is the one examining her not people sitting on their phones. There is probably more to the story.
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My friend had her first baby early and early and with the other onces she had to start getting the shots early so I doubt that they wouldn't consider it a none issue. I'm sorry if they are waiting on insurance they should just pay for it our of pocket untill the isurance kicks in I'm not buying this shit at all and feel no pitty that she ended up in the hospital.
MiloandMax wrote:Doesn't the doctor still have to prescribe it? That's what I was asking. Also I was saying above I was told once we started paying out of pocket and insurance found out they'd just deny every little thing. That's all. Yes she should have them if she needs them but I do think there may be more to it. They said insurance but never once said THEY wouldn't pay out of pocket so maybe it wasn't all insurance.
This. The doctor may say let’s wait and try and get it covered. We don’t know the entire story. Maybe the doctor doesn’t see urgency yet. The doctor is the one examining her not people sitting on their phones. There is probably more to the story.
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No fucking shit, Chloe. But there are people here who have personal experience with things like this not just people on their phones with no knowledge and no doctor in their right mind would advise their patient to forgo something known to help prevent premature birth. This isn’t some trial thing. 1. She has had a preterm birth before. 2. She was on progesterone successfully with Alaya. It also isn’t something you “see urgency” with. Once it’s urgent, progesterone doesn’t do anything. Urgency would mean she’s in active labor and then there are far less options available to stop it that may or may not be successful. That doesn’t make sense and believe it or not, some people here have more knowledge than you on certain subject matters. I try to give you the benefit of the doubt and respect, but honestly you think you know more than everyone here on every subject matter that is ever brought up, and it’s pretty ridiculous.
MiloandMax wrote:Doesn't the doctor still have to prescribe it? That's what I was asking. Also I was saying above I was told once we started paying out of pocket and insurance found out they'd just deny every little thing. That's all. Yes she should have them if she needs them but I do think there may be more to it. They said insurance but never once said THEY wouldn't pay out of pocket so maybe it wasn't all insurance.
This. The doctor may say let’s wait and try and get it covered. We don’t know the entire story. Maybe the doctor doesn’t see urgency yet. The doctor is the one examining her not people sitting on their phones. There is probably more to the story.
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My friend had her first baby early and early and with the other onces she had to start getting the shots early so I doubt that they wouldn't consider it a none issue. I'm sorry if they are waiting on insurance they should just pay for it our of pocket untill the isurance kicks in I'm not buying this shit at all and feel no pitty that she ended up in the hospital.
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I think everyone agrees with this. What a couple of us are saying is maybe the doctor isn’t offering that option yet.
There are also all kinds of ways to get expensive drugs a lot cheaper. You just have to do your research. Manufacturers have drug cards for all kinds of drugs where you can get them for cheap. I used to get my Humira for zero dollars. If it would of went through my insurance I would of paid 2k a shot.
MiloandMax wrote:Doesn't the doctor still have to prescribe it? That's what I was asking. Also I was saying above I was told once we started paying out of pocket and insurance found out they'd just deny every little thing. That's all. Yes she should have them if she needs them but I do think there may be more to it. They said insurance but never once said THEY wouldn't pay out of pocket so maybe it wasn't all insurance.
This. The doctor may say let’s wait and try and get it covered. We don’t know the entire story. Maybe the doctor doesn’t see urgency yet. The doctor is the one examining her not people sitting on their phones. There is probably more to the story.
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No fucking shit, Chloe. But there are people here who have personal experience with things like this not just people on their phones with no knowledge and no doctor in their right mind would advise their patient to forgo something known to help prevent premature birth. This isn’t some trial thing. 1. She has had a preterm birth before. 2. She was on progesterone successfully with Alaya. It also isn’t something you “see urgency” with. Once it’s urgent, progesterone doesn’t do anything. Urgency would mean she’s in active labor and then there are far less options available to stop it that may or may not be successful. That doesn’t make sense and believe it or not, some people here have more knowledge than you on certain subject matters. I try to give you the benefit of the doubt and respect, but honestly you think you know more than everyone here on every subject matter that is ever brought up, and it’s pretty ridiculous.
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Funny you say that. You are saying you know everything a doctor knows and have no idea the conversation she has had with her doctor.
Let me put this a little more simple for those who misunderstand: A doctor will not deny their patient a drug that they know they need because of an insurance issue. The option to pay out of pocket is always available.
I’m really not sure what’s confusing about that. Kyra KNOWS she needs it and that she used it successfully with Alaya.
I really just can’t comprehend why this is even an argument? Why would they NOT pay out of pocket to try to prevent a premature birth?
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This. The doctor may say let’s wait and try and get it covered. We don’t know the entire story. Maybe the doctor doesn’t see urgency yet. The doctor is the one examining her not people sitting on their phones. There is probably more to the story.
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No fucking shit, Chloe. But there are people here who have personal experience with things like this not just people on their phones with no knowledge and no doctor in their right mind would advise their patient to forgo something known to help prevent premature birth. This isn’t some trial thing. 1. She has had a preterm birth before. 2. She was on progesterone successfully with Alaya. It also isn’t something you “see urgency” with. Once it’s urgent, progesterone doesn’t do anything. Urgency would mean she’s in active labor and then there are far less options available to stop it that may or may not be successful. That doesn’t make sense and believe it or not, some people here have more knowledge than you on certain subject matters. I try to give you the benefit of the doubt and respect, but honestly you think you know more than everyone here on every subject matter that is ever brought up, and it’s pretty ridiculous.
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Funny you say that. You are saying you know everything a doctor knows and have no idea the conversation she has had with her doctor.
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I am not saying I know everything a doctor knows. Lmfao. You are way too argumentative for these forums. I’m so confused on why nothing has been done about this yet.
