Tannerites/YAWI: Failing our kids as they fail homeschool | Part 2

[ThisIsMeCeej]

lol Seriously? Because Alli is working in her new job, she's responsible for calling to make Grizzly's vet appointment? For crying out loud, they would have made her do it regardless! And I love how Johnny throws Alli under the bus about the driving... "I've seen worse drivers out there, even Alli when she first started" or whatever he said. Does he not remember, his precious Branson, failed his test too? And that Everyone has their strong and weak parts in driving.. and Daniell didn't start out amazing, nor did she get as much driving attention as Daniell got. Daniell was driving everyone everywhere... whereas Alli didn't get the same. This family has their favorites like the person said above... It is Branson and Canyon... but, also Daniell. They'll probably give Daniell Alli's car now/make Alli share, until Daniells is ready to drive.

[chrisb332]

Sheesh Canyon stole the puppies and snuck them away into his trailer. A couple things, how did no one notice this? Why is no one watching Canyon? Imagine if he snuck in the kitchen and found knives to sneak away and play with, not that far off since he spent half the day with scissors down his pants. Johhny also said, hes been doing stuff like this a lot lately, guess we need to watch him closer. No duh! Seems like you should have been watching him for the past I dont know 5ish years. Also he tells Canyon, no this is bad behavior. But okay now lets talk about puppies. There is no firm distinction between discipline and now lets have fun. It must be so confusing to a little boy. Little kids cannot pick up the subtle things of life, you need to be be clear on what you mean. They should have gone in there, picked up the puppies and shown Canyon where they belong. Then clearly explain, the puppies need to stay with their mom for safety and what he did was wrong. I am genuinely concerned that this boy will not understand the difference between right and wrong when he gets older. Kindergarten age should be the year that children shift from a centric view of theirselves to recognizing the choices they make effect others and they need to make good choices. Canyon is getting no direction in this, just a couple vlogs ago he was going to hit Danielle with a spoon because she wouldn't give him rum soaked ice cream. The family laughed it off for a long time, again no clear distinction between right or wrong. Canyon is showing some seriously concerning behaviors, and I can imagine if he was in a public school he would be recommended for an IEP for behavioral issues.

[rulatows000]

Why did Allie have to have her party at their house? I, mean, it's cool that they got to do that and have a big pool and bonfire, but it sounded like she had planned to have it somewhere else, so why not let her do it her way? It was obviously just a control issue and Johnny wanting to make sure he knew where it was and that the family could check in on them if they wanted to. And what is with Johnny coming up to Allie and saying, "How would you feel if I ruined your whole party?" Um, what? Why does he think its so funny to sabotage his kids' plans and control everything they do? Geez, she's 18 years old and her dad literally has to dictate where she has a party and change everything last minute, which must have been so hectic and stressful for Allie to try to get the word around to everyone else and switch everything at the last minute. So ridiculous.

And, yes, Canyon seriously needs some better discipline than standing in the corner. In that one vlog where he hit Danielle with a spoon and then starting punching Sarah until Johnny pulled him off of her, he stood in the corner for a few minutes. Then he just said what he had to, to get out of the corner, without even realizing what he did was wrong. Even Johnny said that he didn't seem sorry for what he did and that he's too smart for the corner. I remember another vlog where he did something bad and all he got was standing in the corner for, like, five minutes and then Sarah gave him chocolate immediately after. This whole laughing it off and saying one or two words to him or standing in the corner for five minutes obviously isn't teaching him anything. If he's too smart for the corner than they should think of something else, like taking away a special privilege or treat or having him stay home from a special outing, to show him that there are real consequences for bad behavior.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Why did Allie have to have her party at their house? I, mean, it's cool that they got to do that and have a big pool and bonfire, but it sounded like she had planned to have it somewhere else, so why not let her do it her way? It was obviously just a control issue and Johnny wanting to make sure he knew where it was and that the family could check in on them if they wanted to. And what is with Johnny coming up to Allie and saying, "How would you feel if I ruined your whole party?" Um, what? Why does he think its so funny to sabotage his kids' plans and control everything they do? Geez, she's 18 years old and her dad literally has to dictate where she has a party and change everything last minute, which must have been so hectic and stressful for Allie to try to get the word around to everyone else and switch everything at the last minute. So ridiculous.

And, yes, Canyon seriously needs some better discipline than standing in the corner. In that one vlog where he hit Danielle with a spoon and then starting punching Sarah until Johnny pulled him off of her, he stood in the corner for a few minutes. Then he just said what he had to, to get out of the corner, without even realizing what he did was wrong. Even Johnny said that he didn't seem sorry for what he did and that he's too smart for the corner. I remember another vlog where he did something bad and all he got was standing in the corner for, like, five minutes and then Sarah gave him chocolate immediately after. This whole laughing it off and saying one or two words to him or standing in the corner for five minutes obviously isn't teaching him anything. If he's too smart for the corner than they should think of something else, like taking away a special privilege or treat or having him stay home from a special outing, to show him that there are real consequences for bad behavior.

I think Allie wanted to have the party at their other house, with the in ground pool.. and I think the reason Johnny wanted to change the plans was like you said, to check up on them. They have cameras ALLLLLLL over their house, but not the other house, since they will be renting that one out or doing a airbnb with it. So, it's creepy if you ask me, that he can't let the girl and her friends be free of his prying eyes. And proves he has a lack of trust in her. What's she going to do? Get pregnant like he and Sarah did? Allie doesn't seem the type. especially when she seems so shy about even kissing a guy. Or maybe Johnny wanted to creep on the girls changing into their bathing suits/clothes (honestly wouldn't put it past him, he creeps me out). TBH Allie seems really responsible, and the only reasons I can think of that he would have her switch, is to spy.

Sometimes Canyon seems so normal and almost sweet... and then other times, he acts like a kid with psychopathic tendencies. They REALLY need to start getting a handle on him. I get he's their "baby" their very last child, they can't have more kids (thank the lord for that. Not that I wish cancer on Sarah just saying they don't need more kids.) But, it's time to set boundaries, and stop babying him and letting him get away with everything. For goodness sakes, he stuck scissors down his pants, he busted his head open from climbing on the pool.. after being told not to, he hits people in fits of rage.. there's something wrong there. Either lack of discipline or he needs some serious psychiatric help.

[rulatows000]

Ah, yes, I didn't even think of the second house. That's probably what it was and that makes me even madder. They let Branson and Mara crash there and live there while they're waiting to find their own place, but of course they won't let Allie throw a party there. I also agree that Allie seems very responsible. I commented one time that it was so ridiculous that in the same vlog they talked about taking away Allie's phone every night, they showed her using her phone to make Canyon think Mickey Mouse was calling him. Yeah, that really screams that Allie is plotting to do something terrible and sinful if she has her phone at night.

I always want to ask these ridiculously strict parents - what exactly do you think your kid is going to do if you give them a tiny bit of freedom? Aren't you just basically admitting that you've failed as a parent and have not taught your kids any values or right from wrong if you think they'll go do something terrible if you let them out of your eyesight for one minute? What's also stupid is that they got pregnant when they were 17 and not married. So isn't it pretty hypocritical to shelter their kids to no end, when they obviously had a lot of freedom as teeangers and basically did all the things normal teenagers do? You'd think they'd be more understanding, given their past, that people are human and no one's perfect, but your life's not going to be ruined if you go out and have fun once in awhile. I, mean, are they not happy that they ended up together and that they had Branson and five other beautiful children? People make relationships and figure out their lives in many different ways. You can end up just as happy and exactly where you're suppose to be by an unexpected pregnancy and eloping, as you could be if you had a squeaky clean Mormon courtship and waited for marriage. In other words, just let your kids live. If they make a mistake here and there or do something you don't agree with, chances are the world isn't going to end. They're perfectly capable of finding their way and finding happiness without you having to dictate everything they do.

[rulatows000]

So what's going on with Branson and Mara's house? Yawi made a vlog about them making a cash down payment on a house, but then I went to Branson and Mara's channel and they had a vlog of them touring a temporary house. Their vlogs are so terribly boring I couldn't bring myself to watch it, just skipped through it, so I couldn't really tell if it was just Johnny and Sarah's second house or if its the house they made a down payment on. Either way, in the description of the temporary house tour, they explained that it's just temporary because they're looking for a van to make into a small house. Um, what? Lol, are they seriously really planning on living out of a van? Branson and his family have been teasing about a baby nonstop since Branson first got a girlfriend and they had a baby onesie on their wedding registry, so.... are they just going to have a kid and raise it out of the back of a van? It's just so weird. I kept wondering what all their weird talk about being homeless and planning on being on the road all the time meant. Do they even have enough money to travel? I'm assuming they are doing it for their Youtube channel because they think they're going to have some cool travel vlog or something, but, yeah, I already can't stand their vlogs and watching them sitting in a van everyday isn't going to be any more appealing. I just really don't know why Mara goes along with all this stuff. If my fiance's plans for our future included being jobless, homeless, and living in the back of a van, um, lets just say he'd be single pretty quick.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

So what's going on with Branson and Mara's house? Yawi made a vlog about them making a cash down payment on a house, but then I went to Branson and Mara's channel and they had a vlog of them touring a temporary house. Their vlogs are so terribly boring I couldn't bring myself to watch it, just skipped through it, so I couldn't really tell if it was just Johnny and Sarah's second house or if its the house they made a down payment on. Either way, in the description of the temporary house tour, they explained that it's just temporary because they're looking for a van to make into a small house. Um, what? Lol, are they seriously really planning on living out of a van? Branson and his family have been teasing about a baby nonstop since Branson first got a girlfriend and they had a baby onesie on their wedding registry, so.... are they just going to have a kid and raise it out of the back of a van? It's just so weird. I kept wondering what all their weird talk about being homeless and planning on being on the road all the time meant. Do they even have enough money to travel? I'm assuming they are doing it for their Youtube channel because they think they're going to have some cool travel vlog or something, but, yeah, I already can't stand their vlogs and watching them sitting in a van everyday isn't going to be any more appealing. I just really don't know why Mara goes along with all this stuff. If my fiance's plans for our future included being jobless, homeless, and living in the back of a van, um, lets just say he'd be single pretty quick.

The temporary place they were living in, was Mara's brothers basement. Not sure what they put a down payment on. I know a new trend is to live in "small houses" so, to live in a small house on wheels, wouldn't surprise me... but, a van... uh, no. Maybe a camper... but, a van? No thanks! I wanna know how Branson has so much money? Did his parents ACTUALLY put aside money (like they actually pay their kids to be in the videos and saved it all along) or is his videos doing that well.. that he has that much money? He's bought a car, a brand new macbook, an iphone, airpods, a bunch of "prizes" for his channel... etc etc. where's the money from?

[rulatows000]

Thanks for clearing that up! Lol, her brother's basement? That's even worse than Sarah and Johnny's second house. I wonder about the money thing, too. He only has 182k subscribers, but he has managed to rack up quite a bit of views on some of his videos with his family and Mara. I'm sure he makes decent money from that, but hard to tell. I think some people on this thread were also recently hypothesizing about the parents giving him money they'd set aside for him. Because right after his mission and before he really got his Youtube channel going he seemed to have a ton of money suddenly and gave everyone in his family thousand dollar lego sets for Christmas. It's weird, though. He was gone for two full years for his mission in which he didn't appear in videos and I didn't think the Tannerites were really that big yet before he left, so I don't even know if there'd be a lot to compensate him for. Also, if they are setting aside money for their kids, then where's Allie's money? She's 18 now and has been in way more videos than Branson, so she should be getting that money they've saved soon (if that is what they're doing). What also doesn't add up is how Branson acts like he's so rich and is buying new stuff and spending outrageous amounts on his videos, but then they're living in Mara's brothers basement and planning on living in a van.

[i_just_cant]

Thanks for clearing that up! Lol, her brother's basement? That's even worse than Sarah and Johnny's second house. I wonder about the money thing, too. He only has 182k subscribers, but he has managed to rack up quite a bit of views on some of his videos with his family and Mara. I'm sure he makes decent money from that, but hard to tell. I think some people on this thread were also recently hypothesizing about the parents giving him money they'd set aside for him. Because right after his mission and before he really got his Youtube channel going he seemed to have a ton of money suddenly and gave everyone in his family thousand dollar lego sets for Christmas. It's weird, though. He was gone for two full years for his mission in which he didn't appear in videos and I didn't think the Tannerites were really that big yet before he left, so I don't even know if there'd be a lot to compensate him for. Also, if they are setting aside money for their kids, then where's Allie's money? She's 18 now and has been in way more videos than Branson, so she should be getting that money they've saved soon (if that is what they're doing). What also doesn't add up is how Branson acts like he's so rich and is buying new stuff and spending outrageous amounts on his videos, but then they're living in Mara's brothers basement and planning on living in a van.

The basement honestly looked pretty nice. It's looks fine for a young couple. Spending more time with Mara's brother would give Branson some non-Mormon, LGBT influences (without the intention of converting them). As for all the new stuff he seems to be buying (I haven't paid much attention to it, tbh), Youtube must pay more than we think.

[rulatows000]

So they must be compensating their kids for being in videos, because how else would Allie have at least $6,000 to spend on a car? She said it was her own money that she earned from work, but she barely had her full-time job before that ended and she just barely started with the Cutco knives, so it's got to be from the videos. I'm surprised because they honestly didn't strike me as the kind that would pay their kids for Youtube, but hopefully they are giving and saving up money for each kid. I am glad that she bought her own car, but it also seems kind of strange when her parents gave her a car for her birthday that seemed like a pretty decent one. Feel like she'd be better off saving up for when she moves out and trying to get her own place instead and then if its something she really wants to do, buying a car later on. I kind of get the feeling that her parents are really pressuring her to be an 'adult' and that the comparisons to Branson might be getting to her. She couldn't stop talking about how she did it when she's only 18 and Branson didn't do it until he was 22 and that this is the first really 'adult' thing that she's done and asking her parents what other adults things she's done. I hope that's not the case, but it kind of seems like it. I feel like she should take her time figuring out what she wants to do and work on slowly becoming independent, instead of draining her entire bank account to prove she's an adult by buying a car that wasn't really necessary.

[MiloandMax1]

So they must be compensating their kids for being in videos, because how else would Allie have at least $6,000 to spend on a car? She said it was her own money that she earned from work, but she barely had her full-time job before that ended and she just barely started with the Cutco knives, so it's got to be from the videos. I'm surprised because they honestly didn't strike me as the kind that would pay their kids for Youtube, but hopefully they are giving and saving up money for each kid. I am glad that she bought her own car, but it also seems kind of strange when her parents gave her a car for her birthday that seemed like a pretty decent one. Feel like she'd be better off saving up for when she moves out and trying to get her own place instead and then if its something she really wants to do, buying a car later on. I kind of get the feeling that her parents are really pressuring her to be an 'adult' and that the comparisons to Branson might be getting to her. She couldn't stop talking about how she did it when she's only 18 and Branson didn't do it until he was 22 and that this is the first really 'adult' thing that she's done and asking her parents what other adults things she's done. I hope that's not the case, but it kind of seems like it. I feel like she should take her time figuring out what she wants to do and work on slowly becoming independent, instead of draining her entire bank account to prove she's an adult by buying a car that wasn't really necessary.

It could also be from a savings they opened when she was a baby and then birthday money, babysitting (for others not siblings), graduation and things got put into. It was $8,000 (Johnny said 2,000 in each stack and had 4 stacks). How many years have they done YouTube? To divide between 7 kids and neither parent having jobs I doubt they could do thaf. What was odd is her mom going to get the $, so she didn't even have the account in her name?

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Okay, am I the only one who is annoyed by this? Allie was given the suburban for her birthday present, therefore it was HERS. She should have been able to use that car as a trade in, or been able to sell that car, to help pay for her new car... not bought her new car and then handed the keys to Daniell, until her car is ready to be driven. WTF is wrong with this family?? You don't give someone a present, then make them give it back, when they need to get a newer one. What did they do with Branson's old car? Did he get to sell it, to buy his current car, or did his parents take back ownership of the vehicle? And I wholeheartedly feel like she is feeling like her parents are comparing her with her siblings (because they are and do) or else she wouldn't have felt the need to say she is doing this at "18" when Branson didn't. And what was with Sarah getting in Allie's new car first? I was surprised Allie got to drive away in it.. Kinda rude.. These parents annoy me so much!

[rulatows000]

So in their vlog today they are, again, talking about the whole adult thing and joking about kicking Allie out of the house. Johnny went on and on and on about how he's going to make his kids go through hard things to teach them to be adults. I agreed with some of the things he said and especially liked how he wanted to support Allie in whatever she decides to do. I just don't know why they keep pushing this whole adult thing, though. Like, I totally get it. There were tons of adults at my college who had their parents paying for their entire tuition, room and board, food, and everything else they could possibly want and that's definitely not right. Just because you have money doesn't mean your kids should get a free ride for everything without learning how to work for it. At the same time, you don't have to keep pressuring your kid and acting like you want to kick them out the moment they turn 18. You don't have to take away a car you gifted them just so that they can spend their entire life savings on a new one. You don't have to make them clean the entire garage by themselves because they want to park their car in it. You don't have to make them make phone calls to the vet to teach them to be an adult. You don't have to try to kick them out of their own bedroom. Allie is heading in the right direction on her own in having a job and wanting to move out and trying to be self-sufficient. All this talk of adulthood and trying to treat her differently just because she's 18 and not helping her or making things easier for her at all is just not good. It's just going to put a ton of pressure on her and make everything super difficult, even if its not necessary at all to make it difficult for her. Plus, she's been on camera her whole life and has made her parents millions - helping her out a little bit with finances isn't giving her a free ride, it's giving her what's rightfully hers.

[HeyKatie]

Allie has her own channel now I couldn’t stop staring her the one spot of lip she missed with her lipstick in her intro video

Hopefully for her it’ll work out and she’ll be able to save up money to move out.


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[dontwannah8]

On Allie's channel, she just started doing the 10 dates in 10 days series. I just saw the first one and i feel a little bad for her She seems awkward and due to her being childish doesn't seem to be able to carry much of a conversation. It's hard to tell from just a ten minute video, but i really hope she does find a guy who likes her for her. This was kind of uncomfortable to watch.

[rulatows000]

Huh, funny how there has been no mention of Allie's channel from Yawi... unless I missed it. I don't watch every vlog so please correct me if I'm wrong. Still, they announced Danielle and Savannah's channels and literally had thousands upon thousands of their subscribers subscribe to Branson before he even returned from his mission or started posting. I didn't know she had a channel until it was mentioned on here. And, yes, her first ten dates in ten days was cringey. Why do girls do this, anyways? Geez, go on a date with a guy you like and want to go on a date with. What first date is going to want to appear on Youtube and have a camera shoved in his face and be on a girl's channel that he barely knows? Just seems so strange and very far from the best way to find a guy.

[lmmomSD]

Huh, funny how there has been no mention of Allie's channel from Yawi... unless I missed it. I don't watch every vlog so please correct me if I'm wrong. Still, they announced Danielle and Savannah's channels and literally had thousands upon thousands of their subscribers subscribe to Branson before he even returned from his mission or started posting. I didn't know she had a channel until it was mentioned on here. And, yes, her first ten dates in ten days was cringey. Why do girls do this, anyways? Geez, go on a date with a guy you like and want to go on a date with. What first date is going to want to appear on Youtube and have a camera shoved in his face and be on a girl's channel that he barely knows? Just seems so strange and very far from the best way to find a guy.

I don't think it's about really finding a guy.
It's about views.
And in the middle of a pandemic-- really smart.

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[ThisIsMeCeej]

Huh, funny how there has been no mention of Allie's channel from Yawi... unless I missed it. I don't watch every vlog so please correct me if I'm wrong. Still, they announced Danielle and Savannah's channels and literally had thousands upon thousands of their subscribers subscribe to Branson before he even returned from his mission or started posting. I didn't know she had a channel until it was mentioned on here. And, yes, her first ten dates in ten days was cringey. Why do girls do this, anyways? Geez, go on a date with a guy you like and want to go on a date with. What first date is going to want to appear on Youtube and have a camera shoved in his face and be on a girl's channel that he barely knows? Just seems so strange and very far from the best way to find a guy.

Yeah, no one mentioned anything about her channel.. the only thing that was said was yesterday's vlog when Johnny said something like "I could want her to start a YT channel.." I don't remember the rest of it, but it was at the end, when he was talking about the 2 hour talk him Sarah and Allie had, where to me it looked like Allie had been crying and was trying not to cry.. could be wrong though... maybe just allergies.

Honestly, even though the date thing was kinda cringe... I applaud Allie for going out of her comfort zone. She doesn't seem the type to do that type of thing. I doubt she's trying to find a husband or even a boyfriend out of all of it. Just views. I really think she's in love with her guy friend who went on a mission... and wont he be back later this year?

[Lolislol26]

Okay, am I the only one who is annoyed by this? Allie was given the suburban for her birthday present, therefore it was HERS. She should have been able to use that car as a trade in, or been able to sell that car, to help pay for her new car... not bought her new car and then handed the keys to Daniell, until her car is ready to be driven. WTF is wrong with this family?? You don't give someone a present, then make them give it back, when they need to get a newer one. What did they do with Branson's old car? Did he get to sell it, to buy his current car, or did his parents take back ownership of the vehicle? And I wholeheartedly feel like she is feeling like her parents are comparing her with her siblings (because they are and do) or else she wouldn't have felt the need to say she is doing this at "18" when Branson didn't. And what was with Sarah getting in Allie's new car first? I was surprised Allie got to drive away in it.. Kinda rude.. These parents annoy me so much!

Not sure what happened to Bransons car that he drove before his mission but if I remember correctly it was a complete POS. The current car that Branson is driving was actually Johnny and Sarah’s. If you watch videos from the old house when Branson was on his mission you’ll recognize it.

I honestly don’t see the big deal with giving Daniell Allie’s old car. I know Allie “got it” for her birthday but it wasn’t bought for her and it was never in her name so it actually wasn’t hers. Johnny was paying for the maintenance, Allie only paid for gas.
Allie and Johnny have been saying the transmission, the engine, and the gas gage has been acting up and by looking at it Allie would not have gotten much money for it anyway; I don’t disagree with Daniell getting it all. If Daniell is still planning on going to cosmetology school this fall she’ll need a way to get there.


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[Lolislol26]

On Allie's channel, she just started doing the 10 dates in 10 days series. I just saw the first one and i feel a little bad for her She seems awkward and due to her being childish doesn't seem to be able to carry much of a conversation. It's hard to tell from just a ten minute video, but i really hope she does find a guy who likes her for her. This was kind of uncomfortable to watch.

When her friend, Adam went on his mission he told her that he loved her and she didn’t know how to reply. Sarah said she wasn’t good at expressing her feelings but I think the truth is that Allie wants certain boxes checked off in a partner and Allie doesn’t even check off those boxes, herself so she can’t find anyone. I think being compared to Branson and wanting to be an adult is all Allie’s doing. If you remember, Allie told Branson she’d be married AND have a child before him soon after he got back from him mission and when she announced she wanted to me married AND have a child within 3 years (video was about a year ago) Daniell, Branson, Johnny, and Sarah all gave her a weird look and seemed like they weren’t expecting her to say that.

I think Allie is lonely and wants a companion and someone to love, Allie is no where near ready to be a wife for a Mother.


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