Tania Licciardo-Toivola: Beans, fake routines and sleeping like sardines. | Part 4

[Etoile24]

Damon
Holy macaroni! The similarities never stop, do they? It seems like there HAS to be some connection that we don’t know about.

Who remembers what bible verse Leo referred to that seemed to be about his parents?

psalm 27.10. I looked it up - "Though my father and mother forsake me, the Lord will receive me."

[Wildebeast-cps]

Damon
Holy macaroni! The similarities never stop, do they? It seems like there HAS to be some connection that we don’t know about.

Who remembers what bible verse Leo referred to that seemed to be about his parents?

psalm 27.10. I looked it up - "Though my father and mother forsake me, the Lord will receive me."

Thanks, I looked for it and couldn’t find it.

[NoNick]

I've been wanting to tell you about this family. Please read til the end!
So, I found this family online. They are really interesting. It's a mom and a dad with a bunch of kids. They have a long last name, a combination of mom and dad's surnames so they hyphenate it. The mom is Australian and beautiful. Sure, she's had a few cosmetic procedures and does yoga but you have to admit, she looks great for a mom of many kids. The kids are so cute. They are dressed all alike; the girls often in pink and boys blue. Sometimes, they all wearing matching track suits. My favorite picture of them has them all lined up in white clothing with touches of light blue. You can tell the mom knows what is aesthetically pleasing. She loves to have them match in their jeans and the little girls are primped with ribbons in their blonde hair. Some people feel this destroys the kids sense of identity and individuality but the kids say they like dressing this way. Their family videos seem perfect, idyllic. The mom has such a charismatic, sweet voice and speaks lovingly but she also seems to run the show as the father hangs in the background a bit. Neither parent works really but they obviously have money coming in from somewhere because they buy nice brand name items/clothing. Mom loves having a big family!

They live in a big house. It's in a rural area, near a lake. When people see it, they comment how nice it is and how they would like to live there. Its very organized. The mom may be a bit obessive compulsive but you know, organization keeps the house running smooth! All the children are homeschooled and let me tell you, boy are they smart! I know this because if you catch a glimpse of the math the kids are doing at young ages, you will see how advanced they must be. The mom says they are a couple years ahead for their ages. Besides academics, the children also learn music. Singing and instruments are a big part of their lives. Their mother really loved the idea of her children becoming musical geniuses. She had this funny idea that maybe they could be like the VonTrapps from Sound of Music.

The parents were religious but not in the typical way. They were a bit of doomsday-ers. They splintered off from church and started their own brand of spirituality. They've felt the importantance of sharing the message of Jesus and that the end is approaching.

Some people have said that the kids are starving but they are alive as you can see! They may appear hungry but food has been controlled a little in the house for health reasons. They dont eat meat or too much junkfood.

They travel. Sometimes they visit with mom's friends in other countries. They seem happy! They always agree with mom and no one appears to be rebelling! No one questions mom, even when she seems to contradict herself. Her followers just take her word as truth.

Do you know this family? They've become quite famous online! Thats right, I am speaking of Anne Hamilton-Bryne's family, AKA the cult called "The Family" in Australia. Scary how many people were drawn into this dangerous family. Thankfully, most of the kids are doing better after years of therapy and both "parents" have passed away. It sounded a bit familiar tho right?

Wow. This is an eerily accurate comparison.

A couple more Anne Hamilton similarities: Anne believed in getting up early. The children were typically out of bed by 5 a.m. Mornings were full of spiritual pursuits, exercises and a plate of fruit for breakfast. TTs completely bleached blonde hair is reminiscent of the bleached blonde kids in the Family. Anne also referred to 3 of her children as triplets and would sometimes change up or be vague about their dates of birth as it suited. A couple kids thought they were a year younger than they really were because she always referred to them as younger. Also, one of the youngest girls struggled with speech. Wouldnt it be crazy if it turned out that TTs parents were followers of "The Family"? Does anyone know what TTs mother and father are named or why they moved to Australia?

Due to Facebook, her father's name is ilpo Toivola

[Damom1]

Will be very interesting to see how much they made from her channel last year. You know, Finland releases the tax information of its citizens each Nov 1. In 2018, TT made about 8000 euro from her videos but she only had a few and she did not have a large audience yet. Want to take bets on how much she made in 2019? I'm going to guess in the 150,000 range.

[Damom1]

Wow. This is an eerily accurate comparison.

A couple more Anne Hamilton similarities: Anne believed in getting up early. The children were typically out of bed by 5 a.m. Mornings were full of spiritual pursuits, exercises and a plate of fruit for breakfast. TTs completely bleached blonde hair is reminiscent of the bleached blonde kids in the Family. Anne also referred to 3 of her children as triplets and would sometimes change up or be vague about their dates of birth as it suited. A couple kids thought they were a year younger than they really were because she always referred to them as younger. Also, one of the youngest girls struggled with speech. Wouldnt it be crazy if it turned out that TTs parents were followers of "The Family"? Does anyone know what TTs mother and father are named or why they moved to Australia?

Due to Facebook, her father's name is ilpo Toivola

Wow! Wow! Wow! It looks as if TTs mom, Pirkko, does follow an Anne, just not Anne Hamilton-Bryne. She is involved with Hosea Ministries founded by Australian evangelist Anne Meittinen. Anne recieved a message from god in which he instructed her to take his gospel to the islands (Fiji, Philipines, etc). She does outreach while she preaches and PERFORMS MIRACLES. On their website you can read testimonials from those who have had their medical ailments healed by Anne's prayers as well as by the laying on of her hands. You can also see pictures of TTs mom traveling with Anne and 2 other Finnish women along with Pirkkos letter about her experience. Anne preaches on television and travels to Finland each summer. I wonder if TT and Paul are followers too? Or do they subscribe to Marie Licciardo's brand of faith? At least we can probably rule out Anne Hamilton-Bryne now but who knew there were so many female religious leaders receiving messages from god!?!

[Damom1]

Wow. This is an eerily accurate comparison.

A couple more Anne Hamilton similarities: Anne believed in getting up early. The children were typically out of bed by 5 a.m. Mornings were full of spiritual pursuits, exercises and a plate of fruit for breakfast. TTs completely bleached blonde hair is reminiscent of the bleached blonde kids in the Family. Anne also referred to 3 of her children as triplets and would sometimes change up or be vague about their dates of birth as it suited. A couple kids thought they were a year younger than they really were because she always referred to them as younger. Also, one of the youngest girls struggled with speech. Wouldnt it be crazy if it turned out that TTs parents were followers of "The Family"? Does anyone know what TTs mother and father are named or why they moved to Australia?

Due to Facebook, her father's name is ilpo Toivola

Wow! Wow! Wow! It looks as if TT's mom, Pirkko, does follow an Anne, just not Anne Hamilton-Bryne. She is involved with Hosea Ministries founded by Australian evangelist Anne Meittinen. Anne recieved a message from god in which he instructed her to take his gospel to the islands (Fiji, Philipines, etc). She does outreach while she preaches and PERFORMS MIRACLES. On their website, you can read testimonials from those who have had their medical ailments healed by Anne's prayers as well as by the laying on of her hands. You can also see pictures of TT's mom traveling with Anne and 2 other Finnish women along with Pirkkos letter about her experience. Anne preaches on television and travels to Finland each summer. I wonder if TT and Paul are followers too? Or do they subscribe to Marie Licciardo's brand of faith? At least we can probably rule out Anne Hamilton-Bryne now but who knew there were so many female religious leaders receiving messages from god!?! Does each woman consider the other to be "False Prophets"?

[Damom1]

Sorry for double post, I was attempting to edit that last line.

[Wildebeast-cps]

I think there are definite cult tendencies by TT. There’s just too many similarities with Anne Hamilton. Wonder if TT bleached the littles’ hair?

TT should have had this behemoth to travel around Europe. Seems to have enough beds, has a real shower, full size sofa to watch movies on a big pull down screen, double kitchen sink, washer and dryer, a music room and never ending storage.

[Wildebeast-cps]

Who else joined the FB discussion group?

[draconessa]

Who else joined the FB discussion group?

As I wrote - I did

[Wildebeast-cps]

Who else joined the FB discussion group?

As I wrote - I did

Oops, sorry I missed that. Guess I should have asked who all instead of who else.

TT posted a video on IG with them all hanging out with Leo. Don’t know if this will work.
https://instagram.com/stories/tainalicc ... kqphdwej6s

[Dragonmom]

I joined the Facebook group as well. There seems to be a lot of TT fans there though!

[Etoile24]

new stuff on Instagram showing them visiting Leo. Looks very cold but no snow on the ground which I found a bit odd. Maybe the footage was taken a while ago.

[chocolatelover711]

Hey guys, long time no see, I was busy with my exams but decided to have a look what's going on here
And no, only because I make so many spelling and grammar mistakes, that doesn't mean that I am Taina English is just not my native language and unfortunately I'm not such a language genius like Cleo haha

About the last name thing and the possible relation of Leo and Jenna.. Some of you really had a point. Jenna's mother's last name is indeed 'Tovila'. But I don't think it's possible that they are cousins 1st grade, as Taina's brothers live in Australia.
There are about 2.000 people with the family name Tovoila, we can't say for sure how close they are related, especially if they are from the same area in Finland.. If you look back far enough everyone is related
But then again on the other hand, the mere fact that they never mention this 'coincidence' should make one suspicious.

Jenna has a little sister which she never mentions. Her mother looks like she's in her (early?) 30's, maybe she had Jenna in a quite young age and who knows what family dramas were behind all this, as Jenna seemed to be a quite depressive girl herself before she met Leo..


My theory about their disappearance is that Taina has nowhere to film because they are kind of homeless now and staying with relatives (her aunt and/or cousin)!
She rented this holiday house by the lake only for a week or two around New Year, filmed a few senseless videos and then moved out (and on).

We should start a club for people on here who have been accused of being Taina herself- last week someone thought I was her. I guess only comments that tear the woman to shreds are acceptable and if amongst those types that you post, one comment sneaks in stating facts that defend her, wham- you're her or a "sychophant. I know the point of this site is to comment on the drama but come on. Crazy!

ChocolateLover why have you directly quoted Hariett and yet you have nothing to say re her quote? You are merely defending your sycophantic praise of Taina. This is WHY you were accused of being her...you are clearly a "fish out of water" on here...Perhaps you would be better off on the sites run by her gushing "Stans'

The point of my quoting her was to prove, and I am right, that people on here take even the smallest defence of Taina to mean that we -are- her. The rest of her statement was irrelevant to the correct point I was making hence there was zero need to comment on it. Your comment to me just now proves my point: that you can critique Taina many times (as I have) but if you defend her when it is legit to do so, you are accused of being "sycophants." Ridiculous!

[Anii]

new stuff on Instagram showing them visiting Leo. Looks very cold but no snow on the ground which I found a bit odd. Maybe the footage was taken a while ago.

No strange at all, at the moment Finland has snow only from like halfway up. If I recall correctly, Leo & Jenna live near Helsinki or something? No snow anywhere to be seen there. In fact, since this winter has been really odd, grass is getting green and so on - in january.

[Emily81]

new stuff on Instagram showing them visiting Leo. Looks very cold but no snow on the ground which I found a bit odd. Maybe the footage was taken a while ago.

No strange at all, at the moment Finland has snow only from like halfway up. If I recall correctly, Leo & Jenna live near Helsinki or something? No snow anywhere to be seen there. In fact, since this winter has been really odd, grass is getting green and so on - in january.

It's worrying

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[Wildebeast-cps]

Video posted on IG and they’re still in Finland...if we can believe when she posted it.

[Dru55]

More bean recipes coming up, but no sign they are in Australia yet?

[Damom1]

Spotted at their regular grocery store a few days ago so still in the same part of Finland

[draconessa]

She posted she started filming and preparing vlogs and recipes. From the picture she inserted seems they are still in the same place in FInland. I have a feeling they will stay there for quite a long time.