Vbac stands for vaginal birth after cesarean.Midia wrote:I agree, she was weirdly very emotionnal when she held Juniper, it was very weird. Her friend managed to have a daughter and experienced a Vbac so I can understand being a little jealous but when she cried I was like "that not you daughter who was born so wtf"?
PosyGirl72 wrote:Vbac stands for vaginal birth after cesarean.Midia wrote:I agree, she was weirdly very emotionnal when she held Juniper, it was very weird. Her friend managed to have a daughter and experienced a Vbac so I can understand being a little jealous but when she cried I was like "that not you daughter who was born so wtf"?
Kelsey didn't have that. She just had a normal vaginal birth.
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CelticRain wrote:Lol Kelsey didn't have a vbac she had her first natural birthMidia wrote:I agree, she was weirdly very emotionnal when she held Juniper, it was very weird. Her friend managed to have a daughter and experienced a Vbac so I can understand being a little jealous but when she cried I was like "that not you daughter who was born so wtf"?
Natural = no surgery.Midia wrote:PosyGirl72 wrote:Vbac stands for vaginal birth after cesarean.Midia wrote:I agree, she was weirdly very emotionnal when she held Juniper, it was very weird. Her friend managed to have a daughter and experienced a Vbac so I can understand being a little jealous but when she cried I was like "that not you daughter who was born so wtf"?
Kelsey didn't have that. She just had a normal vaginal birth.
Sent from my SM-G920W8 using TapatalkCelticRain wrote:Lol Kelsey didn't have a vbac she had her first natural birthMidia wrote:I agree, she was weirdly very emotionnal when she held Juniper, it was very weird. Her friend managed to have a daughter and experienced a Vbac so I can understand being a little jealous but when she cried I was like "that not you daughter who was born so wtf"?
Sorry, I was thinking vaginal birth and instead I wrote Vbac (my bad, i am tired!) But Kelsey didn't have a "natural birth", she had an epidural I think (unless I don't have the same definition of natural birth)
Midia wrote:PosyGirl72 wrote:Vbac stands for vaginal birth after cesarean.Midia wrote:I agree, she was weirdly very emotionnal when she held Juniper, it was very weird. Her friend managed to have a daughter and experienced a Vbac so I can understand being a little jealous but when she cried I was like "that not you daughter who was born so wtf"?
Kelsey didn't have that. She just had a normal vaginal birth.
Sent from my SM-G920W8 using TapatalkCelticRain wrote:Lol Kelsey didn't have a vbac she had her first natural birthMidia wrote:I agree, she was weirdly very emotionnal when she held Juniper, it was very weird. Her friend managed to have a daughter and experienced a Vbac so I can understand being a little jealous but when she cried I was like "that not you daughter who was born so wtf"?
Sorry, I was thinking vaginal birth and instead I wrote Vbac (my bad, i am tired!) But Kelsey didn't have a "natural birth", she had an epidural I think (unless I don't have the same definition of natural birth)
Really?? I didn't know that, a few months ago some people were saying about a YTM delivery that her vaginal birth with medication was not a "natural birth" which is why i thought that (English is not my mothertongue ^^)PosyGirl72 wrote:Natural = no surgery.
Non medicated natural = pain medication free and no drugs.
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Yeah....a natural birth is when baby comes out of the vagina. You can still have meds or whatever but if the baby comes out of the vag then it's a natural birth.Midia wrote:Midia wrote:PosyGirl72 wrote: Vbac stands for vaginal birth after cesarean.
Kelsey didn't have that. She just had a normal vaginal birth.
Sent from my SM-G920W8 using TapatalkCelticRain wrote: Lol Kelsey didn't have a vbac she had her first natural birth
Sorry, I was thinking vaginal birth and instead I wrote Vbac (my bad, i am tired!) But Kelsey didn't have a "natural birth", she had an epidural I think (unless I don't have the same definition of natural birth)Really?? I didn't know that, a few months ago some people were saying about a YTM delivery that her vaginal birth with medication was not a "natural birth" which is why i thought that (English is not my mothertongue ^^)PosyGirl72 wrote:Natural = no surgery.
Non medicated natural = pain medication free and no drugs.
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There are so many different variations of birth now, that labelling seems kinda useless.Midia wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking vaginal birth and instead I wrote Vbac (my bad, i am tired!) But Kelsey didn't have a "natural birth", she had an epidural I think (unless I don't have the same definition of natural birth)
Nope Jeff went with him, he can't handle the kids by themselves unless they are shoved into the play room.usernamessuck wrote:Mimi and papa didnt go to swim class with bryan? What? He handled both kids by himself? Wow. Dad of the year.
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Well, at least I learn something todayPosyGirl72 wrote:Yeah....a natural birth is when baby comes out of the vagina. You can still have meds or whatever but if the baby comes out of the vag then it's a natural birth.Midia wrote:
Really?? I didn't know that, a few months ago some people were saying about a YTM delivery that her vaginal birth with medication was not a "natural birth" which is why i thought that (English is not my mothertongue ^^)
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Euh... OK... I already explain why I though that, it was not to attacked anyone and labeled everything, english is just not my language (so I am not familiar with every terms) and as I said before some people described a medicated vaginal birth as "not natural" reason why i was confused, that's all, I never said that a woman going "completly natural" was superior to someone who didn't...Theirmom wrote:There are so many different variations of birth now, that labelling seems kinda useless.Midia wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking vaginal birth and instead I wrote Vbac (my bad, i am tired!) But Kelsey didn't have a "natural birth", she had an epidural I think (unless I don't have the same definition of natural birth)
There's completely "natural". Which would mean vaginal, no induction techniques, no pain relief (epidural, gas, iv) or interventions (pitocin, forceps, vacuum delivery).
There's augmented delivery. Which could include induction or intervention (forceps/pitocin).
There's medicated (iv, gas or epidural)
And then there's surgical.
The word "natural" has too much sanctimony attached to it now, and there's far too much stigma about augmented birth.
I had one augmented birth (pitocin, forceps, iv pain relief), and two "completely natural" (no meds, no assisted delivery). I wasn't a better or stronger woman for my last two deliveries. And I'm not stronger because I birthed three kids without an epidural.
You birth the way you need to in order to have a healthy mum and baby. Period. Unless the kid was grown in an artificial womb, it was a natural birth.
K&C Kelsey Corbinmarshmallowfluf wrote:Me too. ^^ Can we just call them corny and whiney from now on loljapaluvr wrote:I only lurk this thread because I don't watch B&M, just like the juicy gossip, but when someone types out "C&K" for Corbin and Kelsey, I immediately think of Cullen and Katie.
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Midia wrote:
Euh... OK... I already explain why I though that, it was not to attacked anyone and labeled everything, english is just not my language (so I am not familiar with every terms) and as I said before some people described a medicated vaginal birth as "not natural" reason why i was confused, that's all, I never said that a woman going "completly natural" was superior to someone who didn't...
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I'm dying laughing with those nicknamesmarshmallowfluf wrote:Me too. ^^ Can we just call them corny and whiney from now on loljapaluvr wrote:I only lurk this thread because I don't watch B&M, just like the juicy gossip, but when someone types out "C&K" for Corbin and Kelsey, I immediately think of Cullen and Katie.
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Ollie was so vacant throughout yesterday's vlog. It was spooky. Probably just a side effect of junk food and not enough sleep...Midia wrote:After a long time without watching them because, well, because of how they are, I got curious about Missy's friends having a baby (btw, Missy looks so old :O)
Bryan: How is it going Ollie?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: How much do you miss Mama?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: A lot
Me: "..."
Does Ollie care about anything? Does he understand basic questions? He sounds so robotic...
Edit: I wonder if Missy is like really jealous on the inside because her friend's first child is a girl...
Or the much speculated seizure meds.....msrubeus wrote:Ollie was so vacant throughout yesterday's vlog. It was spooky. Probably just a side effect of junk food and not enough sleep...Midia wrote:After a long time without watching them because, well, because of how they are, I got curious about Missy's friends having a baby (btw, Missy looks so old :O)
Bryan: How is it going Ollie?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: How much do you miss Mama?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: A lot
Me: "..."
Does Ollie care about anything? Does he understand basic questions? He sounds so robotic...
Edit: I wonder if Missy is like really jealous on the inside because her friend's first child is a girl...
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Hah... Maybe... I was going to say maybe Bryan got the dosage wrong, but it felt mean to go there....Playsinrain wrote:Or the much speculated seizure meds.....msrubeus wrote:Ollie was so vacant throughout yesterday's vlog. It was spooky. Probably just a side effect of junk food and not enough sleep...Midia wrote:After a long time without watching them because, well, because of how they are, I got curious about Missy's friends having a baby (btw, Missy looks so old :O)
Bryan: How is it going Ollie?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: How much do you miss Mama?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: A lot
Me: "..."
Does Ollie care about anything? Does he understand basic questions? He sounds so robotic...
Edit: I wonder if Missy is like really jealous on the inside because her friend's first child is a girl...
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Oh ok!Theirmom wrote:Midia wrote:
Euh... OK... I already explain why I though that, it was not to attacked anyone and labeled everything, english is just not my language (so I am not familiar with every terms) and as I said before some people described a medicated vaginal birth as "not natural" reason why i was confused, that's all, I never said that a woman going "completly natural" was superior to someone who didn't...
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My comment wasn't really directed at you, I was just using your post as a jumping off point. It was a comment on the prevailing attitude society has about augmented birth in general. Not you specifically. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Why?jspo97 wrote:If missy does have a girl, i hope she looks like Ollie
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All Bryan with tom boy/Cassie's personality!jspo97 wrote:If missy does have a girl, i hope she looks like Ollie
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I wouldn't be surprised if Ollie stayed vacant just like his mother.msrubeus wrote:Ollie was so vacant throughout yesterday's vlog. It was spooky. Probably just a side effect of junk food and not enough sleep...Midia wrote:After a long time without watching them because, well, because of how they are, I got curious about Missy's friends having a baby (btw, Missy looks so old :O)
Bryan: How is it going Ollie?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: How much do you miss Mama?
Ollie: Good
Bryan: A lot
Me: "..."
Does Ollie care about anything? Does he understand basic questions? He sounds so robotic...
Edit: I wonder if Missy is like really jealous on the inside because her friend's first child is a girl...
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