Tannerites/YAWI: Failing our kids as they fail homeschool | Part 2

[dontwannah8]

On Allie's channel, she just started doing the 10 dates in 10 days series. I just saw the first one and i feel a little bad for her She seems awkward and due to her being childish doesn't seem to be able to carry much of a conversation. It's hard to tell from just a ten minute video, but i really hope she does find a guy who likes her for her. This was kind of uncomfortable to watch.

When her friend, Adam went on his mission he told her that he loved her and she didn’t know how to reply. Sarah said she wasn’t good at expressing her feelings but I think the truth is that Allie wants certain boxes checked off in a partner and Allie doesn’t even check off those boxes, herself so she can’t find anyone. I think being compared to Branson and wanting to be an adult is all Allie’s doing. If you remember, Allie told Branson she’d be married AND have a child before him soon after he got back from him mission and when she announced she wanted to me married AND have a child within 3 years (video was about a year ago) Daniell, Branson, Johnny, and Sarah all gave her a weird look and seemed like they weren’t expecting her to say that.

I think Allie is lonely and wants a companion and someone to love, Allie is no where near ready to be a wife for a Mother.


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i totally agree with you. Im a little older than Allie and more mature, and i feel like even im FAR from wanting marriage/kids. However, i'm not mormon and there's no rush. Maybe she'll find somebody through this series but also having a kid when you're 25 isn't the end of the world.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Okay, am I the only one who is annoyed by this? Allie was given the suburban for her birthday present, therefore it was HERS. She should have been able to use that car as a trade in, or been able to sell that car, to help pay for her new car... not bought her new car and then handed the keys to Daniell, until her car is ready to be driven. WTF is wrong with this family?? You don't give someone a present, then make them give it back, when they need to get a newer one. What did they do with Branson's old car? Did he get to sell it, to buy his current car, or did his parents take back ownership of the vehicle? And I wholeheartedly feel like she is feeling like her parents are comparing her with her siblings (because they are and do) or else she wouldn't have felt the need to say she is doing this at "18" when Branson didn't. And what was with Sarah getting in Allie's new car first? I was surprised Allie got to drive away in it.. Kinda rude.. These parents annoy me so much!

Not sure what happened to Bransons car that he drove before his mission but if I remember correctly it was a complete POS. The current car that Branson is driving was actually Johnny and Sarah’s. If you watch videos from the old house when Branson was on his mission you’ll recognize it.

I honestly don’t see the big deal with giving Daniell Allie’s old car. I know Allie “got it” for her birthday but it wasn’t bought for her and it was never in her name so it actually wasn’t hers. Johnny was paying for the maintenance, Allie only paid for gas.
Allie and Johnny have been saying the transmission, the engine, and the gas gage has been acting up and by looking at it Allie would not have gotten much money for it anyway; I don’t disagree with Daniell getting it all. If Daniell is still planning on going to cosmetology school this fall she’ll need a way to get there.


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When you GIVE someone a present, it's a present, not to be taken back later.. it's for them to do what they want with it. And you can't put a vehicle in a persons name until they are 18 years old. So, regardless... it had to be in her parents name, when she turned 18 they should have rectified that and put it in her name, as it was a present. I don't remember that car Branson is driving being his parents, but if it is.. well, then.. they put that in his name, so why couldn't they do the same with Allie? And as far as Daniell needing a way to get to school in the fall... well, Allie was driven to school until she was 17 and they gave her the suburban... they could drive Daniell to school as well. One parent can stay home, they don't always need to go together to do everything. Maybe they should have started working on Daniell's car when they gave it to her when she was 14... then maybe it would be closer to being finished. I also wonder, if they will be taking that back from her later in life. And while, sure.. they may not have gotten much for the suburban, it should still have been Allie's choice on what to do with it.. it was her gift, regardless that they didn't put it in her name. I guess I am just a firm believer that, once I give someone a present, it's no longer mine... and if they want to destroy it, or throw it away or sell it even... it is up to them.

[mikaydean]

Didn't Branson own a green Citroën 2CV before going on the mission? After he got back he never drove it again.

[Lolislol26]

Okay, am I the only one who is annoyed by this? Allie was given the suburban for her birthday present, therefore it was HERS. She should have been able to use that car as a trade in, or been able to sell that car, to help pay for her new car... not bought her new car and then handed the keys to Daniell, until her car is ready to be driven. WTF is wrong with this family?? You don't give someone a present, then make them give it back, when they need to get a newer one. What did they do with Branson's old car? Did he get to sell it, to buy his current car, or did his parents take back ownership of the vehicle? And I wholeheartedly feel like she is feeling like her parents are comparing her with her siblings (because they are and do) or else she wouldn't have felt the need to say she is doing this at "18" when Branson didn't. And what was with Sarah getting in Allie's new car first? I was surprised Allie got to drive away in it.. Kinda rude.. These parents annoy me so much!

Not sure what happened to Bransons car that he drove before his mission but if I remember correctly it was a complete POS. The current car that Branson is driving was actually Johnny and Sarah’s. If you watch videos from the old house when Branson was on his mission you’ll recognize it.

I honestly don’t see the big deal with giving Daniell Allie’s old car. I know Allie “got it” for her birthday but it wasn’t bought for her and it was never in her name so it actually wasn’t hers. Johnny was paying for the maintenance, Allie only paid for gas.
Allie and Johnny have been saying the transmission, the engine, and the gas gage has been acting up and by looking at it Allie would not have gotten much money for it anyway; I don’t disagree with Daniell getting it all. If Daniell is still planning on going to cosmetology school this fall she’ll need a way to get there.


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When you GIVE someone a present, it's a present, not to be taken back later.. it's for them to do what they want with it. And you can't put a vehicle in a persons name until they are 18 years old. So, regardless... it had to be in her parents name, when she turned 18 they should have rectified that and put it in her name, as it was a present. I don't remember that car Branson is driving being his parents, but if it is.. well, then.. they put that in his name, so why couldn't they do the same with Allie? And as far as Daniell needing a way to get to school in the fall... well, Allie was driven to school until she was 17 and they gave her the suburban... they could drive Daniell to school as well. One parent can stay home, they don't always need to go together to do everything. Maybe they should have started working on Daniell's car when they gave it to her when she was 14... then maybe it would be closer to being finished. I also wonder, if they will be taking that back from her later in life. And while, sure.. they may not have gotten much for the suburban, it should still have been Allie's choice on what to do with it.. it was her gift, regardless that they didn't put it in her name. I guess I am just a firm believer that, once I give someone a present, it's no longer mine... and if they want to destroy it, or throw it away or sell it even... it is up to them.

I completely agree with Johnny and Sarah not needing to go everywhere together. I guess I don’t see the issue with it because I never looked at it like it was Allie’s car to begin with. I always looked at it as Johnny and Sarah’s car the Allie drove to school/ to the grocery store for Johnny and Sarah.

[Lolislol26]

Didn't Branson own a green Citroën 2CV before going on the mission? After he got back he never drove it again.

I don’t know a lot about cars but I remember it was super loud.


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[ThisIsMeCeej]

Not sure what happened to Bransons car that he drove before his mission but if I remember correctly it was a complete POS. The current car that Branson is driving was actually Johnny and Sarah’s. If you watch videos from the old house when Branson was on his mission you’ll recognize it.

I honestly don’t see the big deal with giving Daniell Allie’s old car. I know Allie “got it” for her birthday but it wasn’t bought for her and it was never in her name so it actually wasn’t hers. Johnny was paying for the maintenance, Allie only paid for gas.
Allie and Johnny have been saying the transmission, the engine, and the gas gage has been acting up and by looking at it Allie would not have gotten much money for it anyway; I don’t disagree with Daniell getting it all. If Daniell is still planning on going to cosmetology school this fall she’ll need a way to get there.


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When you GIVE someone a present, it's a present, not to be taken back later.. it's for them to do what they want with it. And you can't put a vehicle in a persons name until they are 18 years old. So, regardless... it had to be in her parents name, when she turned 18 they should have rectified that and put it in her name, as it was a present. I don't remember that car Branson is driving being his parents, but if it is.. well, then.. they put that in his name, so why couldn't they do the same with Allie? And as far as Daniell needing a way to get to school in the fall... well, Allie was driven to school until she was 17 and they gave her the suburban... they could drive Daniell to school as well. One parent can stay home, they don't always need to go together to do everything. Maybe they should have started working on Daniell's car when they gave it to her when she was 14... then maybe it would be closer to being finished. I also wonder, if they will be taking that back from her later in life. And while, sure.. they may not have gotten much for the suburban, it should still have been Allie's choice on what to do with it.. it was her gift, regardless that they didn't put it in her name. I guess I am just a firm believer that, once I give someone a present, it's no longer mine... and if they want to destroy it, or throw it away or sell it even... it is up to them.

I completely agree with Johnny and Sarah not needing to go everywhere together. I guess I don’t see the issue with it because I never looked at it like it was Allie’s car to begin with. I always looked at it as Johnny and Sarah’s car the Allie drove to school/ to the grocery store for Johnny and Sarah.

I guess I am partial to it because of what I saw my Mom go through with my Grandparents. (personal story so if you don't wanna read move on). My Grandpa was tired of seeing my Mom driving around in beat up cars that sometimes wouldn't start.. and she had 3 young kids. So, he was worried about her breaking down in a bad place or at night with us in the car. So, he took my mom to the car lot, and he told her he would buy her a car. She told him, she couldn't afford it. And he told her he wanted to buy it for her.. he wanted her and his granddaughters to be safe, and he didn't care if she paid him back or never paid a cent.. he wanted to do this for her. So, she said she would take the car and she would pay him back whenever she could. He said "you don't have to, really". So, my mom... who was working hard along with my dad... once every 2 weeks, would take over however much she could afford to give, to pay him for the car. Well, times got a bit tough for us.. and my Mom wasn't able to pay anything for a couple months, she could barely afford to put food on the table, because my dad lost his job and was in the middle of looking for another. So, while my Dad was finally at his new job.. and Mom was at work, my Grandma called and my oldest sister, who was 13/14 at the time... answered. My Grandma let in to my sister, that my Grandpa was extremely mad and disappointed in my 'Mother' as she hasn't brought any payment in months! My sister, didn't like her attitude, so she went off on my Grandma.. and was hung up on. And when my Mom got home, my sister told her what happened. My Mom scraped together as much as she could, and I went with her.. and she knocked on their door and my Grandma came to the door. She handed her the payment and said "It's funny how, it didn't matter if I paid for the car or not, and when I am struggling to make ends meet and can barely feed my kids.. you're hounding me for money" my Grandma took the money and shut the door on my Mom. My mom drove home crying. And I remember her saying "I shouldn't have accepted the car, I will never be as good as my siblings.." (they all got a brand new car when they graduated, my Mom didn't). My Grandparents were not poor and didn't need the money, so there wasn't a reason for them to do that to my Mom.. they just played favorites and my Mom Dad and her kids were the least favorites. So, my Mom ended up taking out a loan, and she paid my Grandpa back in full. They didn't speak to our family for about a year. And when they did, my Grandpa would constantly as my Mom "how's my car doing?". The car she paid fully for, was in her name... etc etc..

So, I dunno. I feel a gift is a gift. No asking for money for it, or asking for it back. It's one thing if they said "you can borrow this til you get your own" but, they wrapped it up. And said it was hers.

[mikaydean]

Didn't Branson own a green Citroën 2CV before going on the mission? After he got back he never drove it again.

I don’t know a lot about cars but I remember it was super loud.


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Me neither, so I first had to look it up with google.
I remember the car because in the Netherlands we call it an "ugly duckling" and my first grade teacher had one. She always told us he could fly. You don't want to know how many times we hung around the school to see if she would actually fly home. 6 year old really believe everything.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Thanks for clearing that up! Lol, her brother's basement? That's even worse than Sarah and Johnny's second house. I wonder about the money thing, too. He only has 182k subscribers, but he has managed to rack up quite a bit of views on some of his videos with his family and Mara. I'm sure he makes decent money from that, but hard to tell. I think some people on this thread were also recently hypothesizing about the parents giving him money they'd set aside for him. Because right after his mission and before he really got his Youtube channel going he seemed to have a ton of money suddenly and gave everyone in his family thousand dollar lego sets for Christmas. It's weird, though. He was gone for two full years for his mission in which he didn't appear in videos and I didn't think the Tannerites were really that big yet before he left, so I don't even know if there'd be a lot to compensate him for. Also, if they are setting aside money for their kids, then where's Allie's money? She's 18 now and has been in way more videos than Branson, so she should be getting that money they've saved soon (if that is what they're doing). What also doesn't add up is how Branson acts like he's so rich and is buying new stuff and spending outrageous amounts on his videos, but then they're living in Mara's brothers basement and planning on living in a van.

I was one that assumed they had released some sort of fund to Branson. He had been home after the mission for a really long time without any money, he didn't even have a computer to run his channel. Then around Christmas he became Mr. Moneybags. The only change I could see at that time was getting serious with Mara. Maybe they set aside money for when he was going to get married? If they even saved money for their girls (I wouldn't be surprised if they think they are their husbands "problem"), I assume Ally wouldn't get it until she is proposed to, or maybe as a carrot for producing the first grandchild?

The challenge videos baffle me though. He usually shows $60,000 worth of prizes, which the family never actually wins (is that even legal to run fake contests?). Perhaps the stacks of money are fake, and empty boxes are used for the prizes? I can't stand to watch them, or the vlogs anymore, so I don't know how successful they are, but he definitely got a sudden windfall seemingly unrelated to his channel right before he proposed to Mara. Marriage and babies are the only thing those kids are trained for in life, so it makes sense that is the only endeavor they support.

Regarding the "van living", that is actually a popular niche of YouTube. B&M have ZERO chemistry together (watching the honeymoon vlog was painful), so I image they are looking for some hook to get their channel going. You do a few months of build videos, then they get to travel a bit before the baby comes. Gorgeous state parks, rafting adventures, finding food/bathrooms/parking, car breakdown drama. Maybe get a puppy so it doesn't feel so awkward just the two of them. I actually think it is a decent idea. But an even better idea would be to utilize Mara's huge brain and fancy degree and start working on a resume. What did she study again? Neuroscience? BioEngineering?

[Kattiness Everdeen]

When you GIVE someone a present, it's a present, not to be taken back later.. it's for them to do what they want with it. And you can't put a vehicle in a persons name until they are 18 years old. So, regardless... it had to be in her parents name, when she turned 18 they should have rectified that and put it in her name, as it was a present. I don't remember that car Branson is driving being his parents, but if it is.. well, then.. they put that in his name, so why couldn't they do the same with Allie? And as far as Daniell needing a way to get to school in the fall... well, Allie was driven to school until she was 17 and they gave her the suburban... they could drive Daniell to school as well. One parent can stay home, they don't always need to go together to do everything. Maybe they should have started working on Daniell's car when they gave it to her when she was 14... then maybe it would be closer to being finished. I also wonder, if they will be taking that back from her later in life. And while, sure.. they may not have gotten much for the suburban, it should still have been Allie's choice on what to do with it.. it was her gift, regardless that they didn't put it in her name. I guess I am just a firm believer that, once I give someone a present, it's no longer mine... and if they want to destroy it, or throw it away or sell it even... it is up to them.

I completely agree with Johnny and Sarah not needing to go everywhere together. I guess I don’t see the issue with it because I never looked at it like it was Allie’s car to begin with. I always looked at it as Johnny and Sarah’s car the Allie drove to school/ to the grocery store for Johnny and Sarah.

I guess I am partial to it because of what I saw my Mom go through with my Grandparents. (personal story so if you don't wanna read move on). My Grandpa was tired of seeing my Mom driving around in beat up cars that sometimes wouldn't start.. and she had 3 young kids. So, he was worried about her breaking down in a bad place or at night with us in the car. So, he took my mom to the car lot, and he told her he would buy her a car. She told him, she couldn't afford it. And he told her he wanted to buy it for her.. he wanted her and his granddaughters to be safe, and he didn't care if she paid him back or never paid a cent.. he wanted to do this for her. So, she said she would take the car and she would pay him back whenever she could. He said "you don't have to, really". So, my mom... who was working hard along with my dad... once every 2 weeks, would take over however much she could afford to give, to pay him for the car. Well, times got a bit tough for us.. and my Mom wasn't able to pay anything for a couple months, she could barely afford to put food on the table, because my dad lost his job and was in the middle of looking for another. So, while my Dad was finally at his new job.. and Mom was at work, my Grandma called and my oldest sister, who was 13/14 at the time... answered. My Grandma let in to my sister, that my Grandpa was extremely mad and disappointed in my 'Mother' as she hasn't brought any payment in months! My sister, didn't like her attitude, so she went off on my Grandma.. and was hung up on. And when my Mom got home, my sister told her what happened. My Mom scraped together as much as she could, and I went with her.. and she knocked on their door and my Grandma came to the door. She handed her the payment and said "It's funny how, it didn't matter if I paid for the car or not, and when I am struggling to make ends meet and can barely feed my kids.. you're hounding me for money" my Grandma took the money and shut the door on my Mom. My mom drove home crying. And I remember her saying "I shouldn't have accepted the car, I will never be as good as my siblings.." (they all got a brand new car when they graduated, my Mom didn't). My Grandparents were not poor and didn't need the money, so there wasn't a reason for them to do that to my Mom.. they just played favorites and my Mom Dad and her kids were the least favorites. So, my Mom ended up taking out a loan, and she paid my Grandpa back in full. They didn't speak to our family for about a year. And when they did, my Grandpa would constantly as my Mom "how's my car doing?". The car she paid fully for, was in her name... etc etc..

So, I dunno. I feel a gift is a gift. No asking for money for it, or asking for it back. It's one thing if they said "you can borrow this til you get your own" but, they wrapped it up. And said it was hers.

Do your grandparents have problems with narcissism by any chance? This is what my Mother did/does to me as the scape goat. She was going to give my sister a car for MY college graduation. When I got my first real job, she sold me her old car above Kelly Blue Book value. I wrote her a check for it, but she wouldn't cash it, and would constantly remind me that she could at any time. I was debating between canceling it (the car was already in my name), or taking out the money in cash and just dropping it at her door so she couldn't taunt me with it. Eventually we both just forgot about it though. Gifts should have no strings attached. If the giver is incapable of that, they shouldn't bother in the first place.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

I completely agree with Johnny and Sarah not needing to go everywhere together. I guess I don’t see the issue with it because I never looked at it like it was Allie’s car to begin with. I always looked at it as Johnny and Sarah’s car the Allie drove to school/ to the grocery store for Johnny and Sarah.

I guess I am partial to it because of what I saw my Mom go through with my Grandparents. (personal story so if you don't wanna read move on). My Grandpa was tired of seeing my Mom driving around in beat up cars that sometimes wouldn't start.. and she had 3 young kids. So, he was worried about her breaking down in a bad place or at night with us in the car. So, he took my mom to the car lot, and he told her he would buy her a car. She told him, she couldn't afford it. And he told her he wanted to buy it for her.. he wanted her and his granddaughters to be safe, and he didn't care if she paid him back or never paid a cent.. he wanted to do this for her. So, she said she would take the car and she would pay him back whenever she could. He said "you don't have to, really". So, my mom... who was working hard along with my dad... once every 2 weeks, would take over however much she could afford to give, to pay him for the car. Well, times got a bit tough for us.. and my Mom wasn't able to pay anything for a couple months, she could barely afford to put food on the table, because my dad lost his job and was in the middle of looking for another. So, while my Dad was finally at his new job.. and Mom was at work, my Grandma called and my oldest sister, who was 13/14 at the time... answered. My Grandma let in to my sister, that my Grandpa was extremely mad and disappointed in my 'Mother' as she hasn't brought any payment in months! My sister, didn't like her attitude, so she went off on my Grandma.. and was hung up on. And when my Mom got home, my sister told her what happened. My Mom scraped together as much as she could, and I went with her.. and she knocked on their door and my Grandma came to the door. She handed her the payment and said "It's funny how, it didn't matter if I paid for the car or not, and when I am struggling to make ends meet and can barely feed my kids.. you're hounding me for money" my Grandma took the money and shut the door on my Mom. My mom drove home crying. And I remember her saying "I shouldn't have accepted the car, I will never be as good as my siblings.." (they all got a brand new car when they graduated, my Mom didn't). My Grandparents were not poor and didn't need the money, so there wasn't a reason for them to do that to my Mom.. they just played favorites and my Mom Dad and her kids were the least favorites. So, my Mom ended up taking out a loan, and she paid my Grandpa back in full. They didn't speak to our family for about a year. And when they did, my Grandpa would constantly as my Mom "how's my car doing?". The car she paid fully for, was in her name... etc etc..

So, I dunno. I feel a gift is a gift. No asking for money for it, or asking for it back. It's one thing if they said "you can borrow this til you get your own" but, they wrapped it up. And said it was hers.

Do your grandparents have problems with narcissism by any chance? This is what my Mother did/does to me as the scape goat. She was going to give my sister a car for MY college graduation. When I got my first real job, she sold me her old car above Kelly Blue Book value. I wrote her a check for it, but she wouldn't cash it, and would constantly remind me that she could at any time. I was debating between canceling it (the car was already in my name), or taking out the money in cash and just dropping it at her door so she couldn't taunt me with it. Eventually we both just forgot about it though. Gifts should have no strings attached. If the giver is incapable of that, they shouldn't bother in the first place.

Offtopic: I'm sorry you had/have to deal with that. I know how much it sucks. And yeah, my mom's parents were narcissists. They have both passed away. But, my family was always the outcasts to them, because my parents struggled, and didn't have the money to buy the best. And their other 4 kids were their favorites.. they had an order of course, of who was the best, but... we were the worst, always. Whenever we went over to their house, we weren't even allowed to sit in their front room, we could only be in the back Florida room.. and all of my cousins pictures were all over the front room, but my sisters and i's pictures were only in the Florida room. There was an Easter where all the family was invited to my grandparents house for dinner and an egg hunt... except for my family. Mom knew nothing about it until one of her sisters called and asked when she was going to show up. My Grandma said "there wasn't enough room for everyone" yet, my dad's side of the family, would have get together's with his 14 siblings, all my cousins, their kids, etc etc.. and there was never "not enough room". It's all just sad.

I wholeheartedly agree, gifts should be given with no strings attached.

[L1g4d]

Did they really post a video with the title "they died here!" I didn't watch it because their vlogs are so confusing and all over the place but why would someone watch that? I understand most of their titles are vague and confusing but it just sounds so insensitive

[rulatows000]

I was one that assumed they had released some sort of fund to Branson. He had been home after the mission for a really long time without any money, he didn't even have a computer to run his channel. Then around Christmas he became Mr. Moneybags. The only change I could see at that time was getting serious with Mara. Maybe they set aside money for when he was going to get married? If they even saved money for their girls (I wouldn't be surprised if they think they are their husbands "problem"), I assume Ally wouldn't get it until she is proposed to, or maybe as a carrot for producing the first grandchild?

The challenge videos baffle me though. He usually shows $60,000 worth of prizes, which the family never actually wins (is that even legal to run fake contests?). Perhaps the stacks of money are fake, and empty boxes are used for the prizes? I can't stand to watch them, or the vlogs anymore, so I don't know how successful they are, but he definitely got a sudden windfall seemingly unrelated to his channel right before he proposed to Mara. Marriage and babies are the only thing those kids are trained for in life, so it makes sense that is the only endeavor they support.

Regarding the "van living", that is actually a popular niche of YouTube. B&M have ZERO chemistry together (watching the honeymoon vlog was painful), so I image they are looking for some hook to get their channel going. You do a few months of build videos, then they get to travel a bit before the baby comes. Gorgeous state parks, rafting adventures, finding food/bathrooms/parking, car breakdown drama. Maybe get a puppy so it doesn't feel so awkward just the two of them. I actually think it is a decent idea. But an even better idea would be to utilize Mara's huge brain and fancy degree and start working on a resume. What did she study again? Neuroscience? BioEngineering?

That does make a lot of sense. Even before he got home from his mission, they wouldn't stop talking about how the first thing he's going to do is find a wife. Didn't care at all about him finding a job or establishing himself financially, just hyper focused on him getting married and having kids. I find the challenge videos extremely insensitive. I believe that they are all fake and they're not really throwing away money like that, but Branson, and Tannerites too, constantly post videos with enormous amounts of money in the title. "I left $30,000 in a house", "Find Thousands of Dollars and Keep It", "Last to leave the table wins $10,000" It's just so gross. There are people out there who don't have enough money to buy food for their families, then there are these jackasses gloating about all their money and pretending that Az is going to get $10,000 for winning a game of tag or something. They are the only Youtubers I know who are that outrageous and obsessed with talking about money and winning money and hiding money and pretending to throw away money like they just badly want everyone to think that they have millions and millions tucked away. Aren't Mormons supposed to be humble? Pretending to throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars for every little challenge without a care in the world doesn't seem very humble to me.

I believe it was Biochemistry that she studied. It doesn't make any sense to me how she went to college for 4 years and worked towards a very difficult degree and then just decides she's not going to do anything with it. She must have had some sort of plan when she went to college for what she wanted to do and why she picked that particular major. I feel like she's just following along with whatever Branson wants. I could see him discouraging her from getting a job because he wants her to have babies and film videos for his channel.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Oh for goodness sakes... she admitted she hit something and thought it was a tire, after she thought a second about it.. you don't have to go on and on about the freakin tire she hit and the path it took, the sound it made and that "she only had her car a week and already tearing it up". I am pretty sure anyone who spent thousands of dollars on something, feels bad when something bad happens to it, especially after just a week! And then Sarah chiming in that she has to watch what she's doing, when Johnny already said Sarah had hit one before. Ugh.. Those two are all about making their kids feel the worse they can, when they do something wrong or make a mistake.. or when they THINK something is wrong. Going to such lengths as to hold the kid (Canyon) down, and force a lesson on them. *rolls eyes*

[rulatows000]

Geez, why don't they just rename the channel, "Where's Canyon?" Every single vlog, it's, "Where's Canyon?", "Canyon's missing", "Canyon ran away", "Have you seen Canyon?", "I can't find Canyon", "Canyon ran off with both dogs on a busy street", "Canyon ran off with two newly born puppies," "Canyon ran off and we found him in a fountain". Seriously, if you can't watch your five year old for five seconds, you really shouldn't have an enormous house and enormous property next to a busy street where any number of awful things can happen to him. This time he was playing around near a pile of wood planks that looked very unstable and I'm pretty sure had nails sticking out of them. Sarah didn't even tell him not to play over there, she just told him he had to tell her. What? He was barefoot and looked like he would very easily try to climb on that wood pile and likely get splintered or hurt by a nail or have the whole pile tip over on him. I wouldn't even trust an 11 or 12 year old boy near something like that, but a five year old can play there as long as he asks? Also, why is he barefoot when they've had multiple vlogs showing that they have black widows and scorpions on their property? I literally cringe every time I watch their vlogs and see that Canyon is missing, or them talking about how he has no fear and doesn't seem to even feel pain, and him exhibiting his odd behaviors. Not only does he have behavioral issues, but his parents never know where he is and don't care if he's in a dangerous situation.

[rulatows000]

I'm worried about Allie. What happened with her Cutco thing that she was doing? In the past two vlogs she's just been kind of moping about and keeps commenting how she's not in school this year and just in general is staying home and not doing anything at all and needs to find out what to do with her life. I get that she's young and that it's normal for kids that age to feel that way, but I am just starting to get curious why she's not going out and finding a full-time job somewhere. I, mean, even just working as a cashier or waitress somewhere is better than sitting at home alone doing nothing all day and will bring in a little bit of money. I also didn't like how her parents went on and on about how they're paying for Danielle's college, but if their kids are over 18 they're on their own for college. College is crazy expensive. Even kids who do work hard and get scholarships and work three jobs can't afford it themselves. I hope that's not reason Allie isn't doing college, because her parents won't loan her money or just pitch in a tiny bit to cover the cost. Anyways, I get that they want her to find her own way in life and all that, but I hope they offer her some kind of support. Not just yelling and lecturing her about being an adult and being on her own now, but helping her look for options and narrowing down her interests because she seems she really can't pin down what she wants to do and is interested in. I'm just really worried about her getting depressed, seeing her brother getting married, her sister going to college, her little siblings in school, and her parents pressuring her to be an adult, while she just feels like she's not doing anything and is stuck.

[Lolislol26]

I'm worried about Allie. What happened with her Cutco thing that she was doing? In the past two vlogs she's just been kind of moping about and keeps commenting how she's not in school this year and just in general is staying home and not doing anything at all and needs to find out what to do with her life. I get that she's young and that it's normal for kids that age to feel that way, but I am just starting to get curious why she's not going out and finding a full-time job somewhere. I, mean, even just working as a cashier or waitress somewhere is better than sitting at home alone doing nothing all day and will bring in a little bit of money. I also didn't like how her parents went on and on about how they're paying for Danielle's college, but if their kids are over 18 they're on their own for college. College is crazy expensive. Even kids who do work hard and get scholarships and work three jobs can't afford it themselves. I hope that's not reason Allie isn't doing college, because her parents won't loan her money or just pitch in a tiny bit to cover the cost. Anyways, I get that they want her to find her own way in life and all that, but I hope they offer her some kind of support. Not just yelling and lecturing her about being an adult and being on her own now, but helping her look for options and narrowing down her interests because she seems she really can't pin down what she wants to do and is interested in. I'm just really worried about her getting depressed, seeing her brother getting married, her sister going to college, her little siblings in school, and her parents pressuring her to be an adult, while she just feels like she's not doing anything and is stuck.

Daniell isn’t going to college in the sense that you’re making it sound like. She’s going to beauty school that has a program with her homeschool high school. Yes, it will still be pricey but she’s not going and getting a BA. Allie decided she wasn’t going to go to college not too long ago. When Mara was studying and doing school work Allie said she wasn’t going to go to college because of how much work it. Allie is waiting to be a Disney Princess and to get married and have children.

[rulatows000]

Daniell isn’t going to college in the sense that you’re making it sound like. She’s going to beauty school that has a program with her homeschool high school. Yes, it will still be pricey but she’s not going and getting a BA. Allie decided she wasn’t going to go to college not too long ago. When Mara was studying and doing school work Allie said she wasn’t going to go to college because of how much work it. Allie is waiting to be a Disney Princess and to get married and have children.

I didn't mean to make it sound like she's going to a four year college or anything. I was just kind of going off the language that Johnny and Sarah have been using about how Danielle's in "college" and how they're paying for it. I was more trying to criticize them for the payment thing and how they're trying to compare Danielle doing a program with her high school to one of their children wanting to go college at 18. They are obviously very different things and have very different costs and circumstances involved, so just kind of close-minded of them to say that they'll only pay for it if their kid manages to do it in high school. I know that the Disney princess thing and getting married was Allie's original plan, but I think she's starting to realize that it's not panning out the way she thought it was. Now she's got no money and no job and isn't at the maturity level or stage where she should be thinking about getting married. I just hope that it doesn't get to her too much and that she finds something to do, at least temporarily, while she's trying to work things out.

[MiloandMax1]

Daniell isn’t going to college in the sense that you’re making it sound like. She’s going to beauty school that has a program with her homeschool high school. Yes, it will still be pricey but she’s not going and getting a BA. Allie decided she wasn’t going to go to college not too long ago. When Mara was studying and doing school work Allie said she wasn’t going to go to college because of how much work it. Allie is waiting to be a Disney Princess and to get married and have children.

I didn't mean to make it sound like she's going to a four year college or anything. I was just kind of going off the language that Johnny and Sarah have been using about how Danielle's in "college" and how they're paying for it. I was more trying to criticize them for the payment thing and how they're trying to compare Danielle doing a program with her high school to one of their children wanting to go college at 18. They are obviously very different things and have very different costs and circumstances involved, so just kind of close-minded of them to say that they'll only pay for it if their kid manages to do it in high school. I know that the Disney princess thing and getting married was Allie's original plan, but I think she's starting to realize that it's not panning out the way she thought it was. Now she's got no money and no job and isn't at the maturity level or stage where she should be thinking about getting married. I just hope that it doesn't get to her too much and that she finds something to do, at least temporarily, while she's trying to work things out.

It sounds more like vocational school for Danielle. Other than what her supplies were they aren't "paying" for it (besides taxes they already pay for the schools).

[L1g4d]

I feel bad for Allie, her parent's lack of value for education really rubbed off on her. It seems they are doing the bare minimum to get by on homeschool which really isn't instilling any work ethic. Now Allie is a result of that. Although Johnny and Sarah make them constantly clean makes no sense how that work ethic doesn't apply to everything you do in life hence why I don't think she can maintain a job.

Also to be a Disney princess means she'd be in entertainment and I haven't noticed she does dance or anything to help that. I'm guessing if she does work for Disney it would be food/beverage or merchandise/attractions. My advice would be for her to open her own princess party company.

[MiloandMax1]

I feel bad for Allie, her parent's lack of value for education really rubbed off on her. It seems they are doing the bare minimum to get by on homeschool which really isn't instilling any work ethic. Now Allie is a result of that. Although Johnny and Sarah make them constantly clean makes no sense how that work ethic doesn't apply to everything you do in life hence why I don't think she can maintain a job.

Also to be a Disney princess means she'd be in entertainment and I haven't noticed she does dance or anything to help that. I'm guessing if she does work for Disney it would be food/beverage or merchandise/attractions. My advice would be for her to open her own princess party company.

Disney princesses just take pictures, some sing which I think Allie did do some of that at one time.

I remember when Danielle was homeschooling and was basically just a sitter for the youngest boy and the parente just went to lunch regularly, how she was supposed to focus on school and watch him I don't know. Then she would get into trouble when she didn't have work done.