Daily"Oll"AboutOllie (Daily Bumps) - Part 92

[MommaLindsey2]

Has anyone thought maybe Ollie is a little slow to develop due to decreased oxygen in the end before the emergency c-section? He should be talking better than he is, but he is constantly with his grandparents, parents, tal and Jeff.


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I dont care aboyt hus speech.. Some grown ass men sound like babies wheb they rakk, that's going to be Oliver.
Im more bugged out that his friends are his cousins and two youtube parents! No Caspian?? They're local and around the same age .. Also, no swim class friends. She really is doing him a disservice.
Id like to know more about this fundamentalist life style Mimi and Papa belonged to. Did he have more than one wife? Were they looked in a goddamn basement as he was doing whatever??? I need to know!

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Holy hell.. My new phone doesn't know my swypes lmao

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[MamaJoAnna]

Has anyone thought maybe Ollie is a little slow to develop due to decreased oxygen in the end before the emergency c-section? He should be talking better than he is, but he is constantly with his grandparents, parents, tal and Jeff.


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Had Missy not sabotaged the EEG years ago they may have had an answer to that, as i have wondered the same with my child who had a similar birth to Ollie's.

[alyssadt]

So after watching the vlog where Hashtag dies and Ollie is literally at a loss for words and Bryan has to edit the shots to feed Ollie the lines, I'm realising how far behind he is in in not only language but also comprehension. Boston (Bonnie Hoellein) is 2 months older than Ollie but in terms of speech/language/comprehension is about 2 years ahead of Ollie. It is very worrying how little Ollie is able to communicate about the world around him, his thoughts and feelings, his experiences of things. He has no imagination or funny ideas or expression when he speaks. He is also very quick to say "idunno" when he asked a question or introduced to a new idea. Watch Boston in a recent video and you will be gobsmacked at the difference (he is of normal development). I know both boys have grown up in front of the camera, although Bonnie parents a hell of a lot better. Perhaps Ollie does have hearing problems and he desperately needs speech therapy or he will be behind for years to come.


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Again, as a preschool teacher I find it difficult not to comment when folks post stuff like this about any of the youtube kiddos. You cannot compare one child to another and determine from that whether a he or she is at a developmentally appropriate level for his or her age. I would say that Boston is well above his age in language and communication skills, and Boston is also well above his developmental range in social/emotional skills as well, even though he's sometimes whiny. Most of that likely comes from having siblings and also from the fact that Bonnie does encourage open ended questioning and discussion a lot (one thing I really enjoy about her parenting style). Ollie is definitely missing some speech sounds/mixing some speech sounds in certain words, but those speech sounds are present at other times and I don't see any evidence of a hearing issue at all. I do think it's disturbing and depressing that they are constantly clearly asking/directing him on what to say, but that doesn't mean he isn't talking outside of that direction (he may just being saying what they don't want to hear). I have serious doubts that he would qualify for any type of speech therapy at this point. I have had tons of children in my classroom over the years who are what we refer to as "quiet observers", they prefer to sit back and watch rather than constantly talk out. They do tend to be the sneaky ones, and the ones you have to keep an eye on and I could totally see that in him. And they definitely have a lot of parenting skills they can improve, but saying Ollie is way behind developmentally because you're comparing him to other kids is unfair. There are a few kiddos I can look at on YouTube and genuinely say "that child has a significant delay", Ollie isn't one of them.

I strongly disagree with this. (I am a SLP) Missy and Bryan have been stay at home parents since Ollie was born, have a seemingly infinite income to spend on resources like speech pathology, and plenty of time to practice with him. Most articulation errors dissipate by the time children are Ollie's age, even so, he has trouble producing sounds across all ends of the spectrum not just fricatives and affricates (typically the last sounds to develop during language accusation). Furthermore, he continues to omit speech sounds (ea-in for eating) and add sounds (additions are the rarest form of articulation errors) to the ends of words. Not to mention, he's social pragmatics, even for a four year old, are entirely off.

I'd get that kid evaluated immediately. It's bizarre to me how laid-back they are about this issue. Yes, there's a point where you
Can say "he's just a kid, he'll grow into his speech" (and as a matter of fact, around his 3rd birthday I can here with that exact argument) but that time is long gone.


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[Ducklings4]

With regards to learning to ride a bike, it makes me nervous. They live on a hill. Where is he suppose to learn to ride. He has no long stretch of road that is safe for him to learn on. I would hate to see him go down that drive like Finn almost did on that skateboard.


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[actuallydear]

No Caspian??
Id like to know more about this fundamentalist life style Mimi and Papa belonged to. Did he have more than one wife? Were they looked in a goddamn basement as he was doing whatever??? I need to know!

whatever happened between slyfox, etc. i wonder if the kids miss each other? they aren't to know why their parents have dropped each other like hot potatoes.

and yessss @ the fundie lives they used to lead! i've always wanted to know more about that. all we know is the kids were homeschooled, missy was only allowed to wear skirts/dresses, wasn't allowed to watch tv/movies or listen to music, and they lived next to her grandparents. so it's likely that the grandparents were also in the cult. her grandpa seemed very weary of them in his final year, tbh.

by the sounds of it, it seems very similar to the way the duggars live. makes me wonder if they actually were a part of the same cult because bill gothard and ATI was a big thing in the 80s and 90s.

[lmmomSD]

I don't believe he's developmentally delayed. He seems plenty bright and is able to pick things up really quickly when time is spent on learning, like when Mimi was coloring with him and teaching him shapes at Jimmy's birthday dinner. Bryan thought he was. "genius". No, he is just starving for knowledge. They don't correct his speech, Bryan drops consonants himself, and as I have said a million times (sorry for repeating it) he can't learn when his parents don't even look at him when they talk to him. When my daughter was in speech therapy, we were always told how important it was to model correct speech and let her see our lip and tongue movements as much as possible.
What makes me sad not just for Ollie, but Bryan and Missy too, is that they are all missing out on some of the real fun of having a child. Bryan posts that he loves seeing Ollie use his imagination-- it's also so great to see them learn, and see them making connections. When the light bulbs go on over their heads, it's amazing. And they are all missing out on that because Missy has this weird idea that learning can only take place sitting at a desk.

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[rhubarb93]

So after watching the vlog where Hashtag dies and Ollie is literally at a loss for words and Bryan has to edit the shots to feed Ollie the lines, I'm realising how far behind he is in in not only language but also comprehension. Boston (Bonnie Hoellein) is 2 months older than Ollie but in terms of speech/language/comprehension is about 2 years ahead of Ollie. It is very worrying how little Ollie is able to communicate about the world around him, his thoughts and feelings, his experiences of things. He has no imagination or funny ideas or expression when he speaks. He is also very quick to say "idunno" when he asked a question or introduced to a new idea. Watch Boston in a recent video and you will be gobsmacked at the difference (he is of normal development). I know both boys have grown up in front of the camera, although Bonnie parents a hell of a lot better. Perhaps Ollie does have hearing problems and he desperately needs speech therapy or he will be behind for years to come.


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Again, as a preschool teacher I find it difficult not to comment when folks post stuff like this about any of the youtube kiddos. You cannot compare one child to another and determine from that whether a he or she is at a developmentally appropriate level for his or her age. I would say that Boston is well above his age in language and communication skills, and Boston is also well above his developmental range in social/emotional skills as well, even though he's sometimes whiny. Most of that likely comes from having siblings and also from the fact that Bonnie does encourage open ended questioning and discussion a lot (one thing I really enjoy about her parenting style). Ollie is definitely missing some speech sounds/mixing some speech sounds in certain words, but those speech sounds are present at other times and I don't see any evidence of a hearing issue at all. I do think it's disturbing and depressing that they are constantly clearly asking/directing him on what to say, but that doesn't mean he isn't talking outside of that direction (he may just being saying what they don't want to hear). I have serious doubts that he would qualify for any type of speech therapy at this point. I have had tons of children in my classroom over the years who are what we refer to as "quiet observers", they prefer to sit back and watch rather than constantly talk out. They do tend to be the sneaky ones, and the ones you have to keep an eye on and I could totally see that in him. And they definitely have a lot of parenting skills they can improve, but saying Ollie is way behind developmentally because you're comparing him to other kids is unfair. There are a few kiddos I can look at on YouTube and genuinely say "that child has a significant delay", Ollie isn't one of them.

I strongly disagree with this. (I am a SLP) Missy and Bryan have been stay at home parents since Ollie was born, have a seemingly infinite income to spend on resources like speech pathology, and plenty of time to practice with him. Most articulation errors dissipate by the time children are Ollie's age, even so, he has trouble producing sounds across all ends of the spectrum not just fricatives and affricates (typically the last sounds to develop during language accusation). Furthermore, he continues to omit speech sounds (ea-in for eating) and add sounds (additions are the rarest form of articulation errors) to the ends of words. Not to mention, he's social pragmatics, even for a four year old, are entirely off.

I'd get that kid evaluated immediately. It's bizarre to me how laid-back they are about this issue. Yes, there's a point where you
Can say "he's just a kid, he'll grow into his speech" (and as a matter of fact, around his 3rd birthday I can here with that exact argument) but that time is long gone.


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I wholeheartedly agree. They have put in absolutely zero effort to teach him to communicate, use thinking skills and express his feelings. Finn is headed down the same road. He would have stood a better chance going into childcare from a very young age, at least it's an educational, stimulating, challenging environment. I stand by my original comment that I think his speech and comprehension is significantly behind. Hopefully school is able to catch him up a bit but these kinds of delays can follow you throughout life if it's not addressed early on.


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[BaffledByItAll]

So after watching the vlog where Hashtag dies and Ollie is literally at a loss for words and Bryan has to edit the shots to feed Ollie the lines, I'm realising how far behind he is in in not only language but also comprehension. Boston (Bonnie Hoellein) is 2 months older than Ollie but in terms of speech/language/comprehension is about 2 years ahead of Ollie. It is very worrying how little Ollie is able to communicate about the world around him, his thoughts and feelings, his experiences of things. He has no imagination or funny ideas or expression when he speaks. He is also very quick to say "idunno" when he asked a question or introduced to a new idea. Watch Boston in a recent video and you will be gobsmacked at the difference (he is of normal development). I know both boys have grown up in front of the camera, although Bonnie parents a hell of a lot better. Perhaps Ollie does have hearing problems and he desperately needs speech therapy or he will be behind for years to come.


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Again, as a preschool teacher I find it difficult not to comment when folks post stuff like this about any of the youtube kiddos. You cannot compare one child to another and determine from that whether a he or she is at a developmentally appropriate level for his or her age. I would say that Boston is well above his age in language and communication skills, and Boston is also well above his developmental range in social/emotional skills as well, even though he's sometimes whiny. Most of that likely comes from having siblings and also from the fact that Bonnie does encourage open ended questioning and discussion a lot (one thing I really enjoy about her parenting style). Ollie is definitely missing some speech sounds/mixing some speech sounds in certain words, but those speech sounds are present at other times and I don't see any evidence of a hearing issue at all. I do think it's disturbing and depressing that they are constantly clearly asking/directing him on what to say, but that doesn't mean he isn't talking outside of that direction (he may just being saying what they don't want to hear). I have serious doubts that he would qualify for any type of speech therapy at this point. I have had tons of children in my classroom over the years who are what we refer to as "quiet observers", they prefer to sit back and watch rather than constantly talk out. They do tend to be the sneaky ones, and the ones you have to keep an eye on and I could totally see that in him. And they definitely have a lot of parenting skills they can improve, but saying Ollie is way behind developmentally because you're comparing him to other kids is unfair. There are a few kiddos I can look at on YouTube and genuinely say "that child has a significant delay", Ollie isn't one of them.

I strongly disagree with this. (I am a SLP) Missy and Bryan have been stay at home parents since Ollie was born, have a seemingly infinite income to spend on resources like speech pathology, and plenty of time to practice with him. Most articulation errors dissipate by the time children are Ollie's age, even so, he has trouble producing sounds across all ends of the spectrum not just fricatives and affricates (typically the last sounds to develop during language accusation). Furthermore, he continues to omit speech sounds (ea-in for eating) and add sounds (additions are the rarest form of articulation errors) to the ends of words. Not to mention, he's social pragmatics, even for a four year old, are entirely off.

I'd get that kid evaluated immediately. It's bizarre to me how laid-back they are about this issue. Yes, there's a point where you
Can say "he's just a kid, he'll grow into his speech" (and as a matter of fact, around his 3rd birthday I can here with that exact argument) but that time is long gone.


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Thank you for the imput on speech as an SLP -- I'm sure I miss things that you hear, I still feel like I can easily understand him compared to other children, even those in my class who don't always qualify for services at 4, but I'm not an expert there. I feel like he's missing certain sounds, but I feel like he's very nasally like Bryan too, so I hear sounds I feel like other people say he's missing. I stick by my experience as a preschool teacher that I do not see him as being developmentally delayed. I think he suffers from lazy parent syndrome and as soon as he goes to school I'd bet he'll begin picking up a lot of those missing skills (numbers/letters/etc...) very quickly. I also think it's downright difficult to see what the child actually knows when his parents constantly ask him questions and give him the answers before he even has a chance :/ I honestly wonder if when they kept correcting his "red and white" fish the other day if he was actually pointing out the fish that are the two colors because they do look red and white. If maybe they'd said "What about this fish?" and pointed specifically to an orange fish he might have gotten it correct. Maybe not, but the poor kid doesn't hardly get a chance.

[alyssadt]

Again, as a preschool teacher I find it difficult not to comment when folks post stuff like this about any of the youtube kiddos. You cannot compare one child to another and determine from that whether a he or she is at a developmentally appropriate level for his or her age. I would say that Boston is well above his age in language and communication skills, and Boston is also well above his developmental range in social/emotional skills as well, even though he's sometimes whiny. Most of that likely comes from having siblings and also from the fact that Bonnie does encourage open ended questioning and discussion a lot (one thing I really enjoy about her parenting style). Ollie is definitely missing some speech sounds/mixing some speech sounds in certain words, but those speech sounds are present at other times and I don't see any evidence of a hearing issue at all. I do think it's disturbing and depressing that they are constantly clearly asking/directing him on what to say, but that doesn't mean he isn't talking outside of that direction (he may just being saying what they don't want to hear). I have serious doubts that he would qualify for any type of speech therapy at this point. I have had tons of children in my classroom over the years who are what we refer to as "quiet observers", they prefer to sit back and watch rather than constantly talk out. They do tend to be the sneaky ones, and the ones you have to keep an eye on and I could totally see that in him. And they definitely have a lot of parenting skills they can improve, but saying Ollie is way behind developmentally because you're comparing him to other kids is unfair. There are a few kiddos I can look at on YouTube and genuinely say "that child has a significant delay", Ollie isn't one of them.

I strongly disagree with this. (I am a SLP) Missy and Bryan have been stay at home parents since Ollie was born, have a seemingly infinite income to spend on resources like speech pathology, and plenty of time to practice with him. Most articulation errors dissipate by the time children are Ollie's age, even so, he has trouble producing sounds across all ends of the spectrum not just fricatives and affricates (typically the last sounds to develop during language accusation). Furthermore, he continues to omit speech sounds (ea-in for eating) and add sounds (additions are the rarest form of articulation errors) to the ends of words. Not to mention, he's social pragmatics, even for a four year old, are entirely off.

I'd get that kid evaluated immediately. It's bizarre to me how laid-back they are about this issue. Yes, there's a point where you
Can say "he's just a kid, he'll grow into his speech" (and as a matter of fact, around his 3rd birthday I can here with that exact argument) but that time is long gone.


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Thank you for the imput on speech as an SLP -- I'm sure I miss things that you hear, I still feel like I can easily understand him compared to other children, even those in my class who don't always qualify for services at 4, but I'm not an expert there. I feel like he's missing certain sounds, but I feel like he's very nasally like Bryan too, so I hear sounds I feel like other people say he's missing. I stick by my experience as a preschool teacher that I do not see him as being developmentally delayed. I think he suffers from lazy parent syndrome and as soon as he goes to school I'd bet he'll begin picking up a lot of those missing skills (numbers/letters/etc...) very quickly. I also think it's downright difficult to see what the child actually knows when his parents constantly ask him questions and give him the answers before he even has a chance :/ I honestly wonder if when they kept correcting his "red and white" fish the other day if he was actually pointing out the fish that are the two colors because they do look red and white. If maybe they'd said "What about this fish?" and pointed specifically to an orange fish he might have gotten it correct. Maybe not, but the poor kid doesn't hardly get a chance.

I agree, he's certainly not developmentally delayed in my opinion (at least from what I can tell) and at the end of the day his speech isn't THAT bad but it still is "bad enough" that it needs to be addressed. M&B are just so damn lazy, like you said. This may have even been avoidable if they modeled good speech to him from an early age and truly worked on his language acquisition. But nope! Too many fidget spinners and unicorn slime parties to be had!


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[BaffledByItAll]

I dont care aboyt hus speech.. Some grown ass men sound like babies wheb they rakk, that's going to be Oliver.
Im more bugged out that his friends are his cousins and two youtube parents! No Caspian?? They're local and around the same age .. Also, no swim class friends. She really is doing him a disservice.
Id like to know more about this fundamentalist life style Mimi and Papa belonged to. Did he have more than one wife? Were they looked in a goddamn basement as he was doing whatever??? I need to know!

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He could definitely benefit from a mom's day out type program... and I really wish he was going to be going to preschool more than just two days a week (for his benefit, not because his parents need him out of the house). I don't know what he'll do when he's not allowed to play guns and swords... I see a suspension or two in his future if they don't get that habit together really quickly if their school system is anything like ours.

I will say though... Caspian is not the child I would choose for Ollie to be hanging out with. I honestly thought he was the same age or maybe slightly younger than Ollie... imagine my surprise. He's right on par with Shay's nephew Winston on the babyfied scale. And a holy terror at that. I have a feeling there was some type of falling out between the Bumps and Slyfox family, but no idea what.

[RootBeerFloatie]

What a sad life for Oliver (and other yt kids) when his parents plan his birthday party around what will make the best youtube video. I know that we joke that it's all about Ollie, but it isn't. It's all about the camera, Oliver just happens to be their most interesting vlogging subject. I think they'll push him to the side with Finn as soon as they have a little girl, or when their views start to decline because he's not a cute little kid any more.

I feel sorry for him. His parents are either coaching him to perform, or ignoring him. They're setting him up to be an aggressive, unemotional, and spoiled little kid who doesn't know how to express what he wants and has no boundaries. He won't be useful to them forever, and he is going to be very ill-equipped to deal with a world that doesn't treat him like a star.

[Acbsktbll]

Has anyone thought maybe Ollie is a little slow to develop due to decreased oxygen in the end before the emergency c-section? He should be talking better than he is, but he is constantly with his grandparents, parents, tal and Jeff.


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I don't think there's a correlation between that. It's his lack of real socialization and that's he's always in front of the tv.

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[cat9480]

Poor Ollie. I feel sad for him. I know it's said he's a brat but I think if he was in a structured environment he would thrive. He has no rules, or routine outside of falling asleep in front of the TV every night.

As much as I think Ollie is going to turn into a spoiled brat, I think there are glimmers of hope for him. I think he handled the stupid fake present thing very well - he clearly was a bit disappointed, but I was impressed that his took it in stride (unless a meltdown was cut from the vlog). I hope that there is really a sweet kid in there that will end up coming out despite his parents making idiotic decisions for him.


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[zacmum]

It's been awhile since I've been on.. but this bothers me..

We know Ollie is the favourite but common. So many updates, photos etc of Ollie for his birthday. Statuses about how lucky she is that she trusted herself etc. We don't see half this shit when it's Finn's birthday. So will Ollie get a week of birthday love like princess mithy.. and Finn geys.. well. You know.

[cat9480]

Is this the first giveaway they've ever done? I was completely shocked to hear missy thank the viewers

I feel like fairly recently someone here suggested that they do a giveaway to thank their viewers. I'm sure they have a PR person (or, at the very least, Mimi and Jeff) scouring YTMD for ideas on what people hate and how they can do damage control. Too many things that are discussed here magically pop up in the vlogs for it to be completely coincidental...


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[Cgl33]

Oliver will likely stay in a completely homogenous environment for his preschool and K-12 education. For other countries, that is until he graduates and decides to either go to a university or fully embrace YouTube. His school will be all kids of the same faith, middle to upper class background, and I'm going out on a limb to say mostly white families.

[Cgl33]

And they are morons for telling everyone where Ollie is going to school. What if some crazy fan got to him. I know they didn't give a name, but it's pretty easy to tell where the Johnson girls go. And no I'm not telling anyone the name or how to find it.

[100midas]

And they are morons for telling everyone where Ollie is going to school. What if some crazy fan got to him. I know they didn't give a name, but it's pretty easy to tell where the Johnson girls go. And no I'm not telling anyone the name or how to find it.

It seems like most of these vloggers in general don't think much at all about security. School names, hotel names, addresses, property layouts, and routines are easy to find in the videos even if you're not actively looking for them. And you have to hope it's just an obsessed fan that gets to them one day and not someone who would actually want to hurt them.


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