8 Passengers: Emotional Abuse Galore & Making Kids Sleep on The Floor | Part 17

[SwiftlyD]

Are you talking about hay q&a video they did a while back when Chad said that his parents never made any of the kids choose a sexuality or something weird like that?

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[SwiftlyD]

Smonkey Glow (video above) mentions there are rumors the camp Chad was sent to was an LGBT conversion camp.. she could find no confirmation of this but it got me thinking, could Chad be gay??? and that is why he was sent to the camp, may be why he is acting out and why his bed/room were taken away? (so he has no privacy, bed=where perversion could happen?) I know they are hardcore mormons so... thoughts? apologies if this has been brought up already!

I have read people mentioning that Rylan from Cute Girls Hairstyles, was sent away for this reason.. moreso, she was acting out, because her parents wouldn't accept her as she is (lesbian/bi). But, you know how the rumor mill is.. they also say that Kamri is as well, but... she's still at home, while Rylan was sent away.

Didn't Ruby and Kevin once say they would be accepting if any of their children were to ever say they were gay though? Or did I mistake them with another family? But, if it was them... I guess everybody lies, especially Ruby, her parents and siblings.

They _said_ they would be accepting, but they also did a video (deleted now, because they care more about subscribers than their convictions) showing themselves at Chick Fil-a "supporting" the homophobic owner. She was gleeful about it. And then she got a little pushback and very quickly and quietly took it down.
I don't think they would be accepting of a gay child. They just say they will, because it sounds better.
I just don't think we should be speculating on Chad's or Rylan's sexuality. They didn't ask for this. At all. I know you all mean well, but they are underage and didn't consent to their lives being online. FYI, there was apparently an account with conversations between Rylan and a boy that were definitely romantic in nature. There's posts about it on the GuruGossip thread.
I think Chad was just doing things "normal" teen boys do: gay or straight, it's normal to explore sex. You talk to them about it. You don't shame them and send them away, then take away their bedroom and bathroom doors.

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Are you talking about hay q&a video they did a while back when Chad said that his parents never made any of the kids choose a sexuality or something weird like that?

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[rulatows000]

So they're back again. I agree with others on here that they have a lot of nerve to use George Floyd's death to try to take attention away from what they did. Why did they put something about adding their voices against racism and then follow it with a video that's completely non-related? It just makes no sense and Ruby has admitted to not watching the news for fifteen years and living in her own little bubble, there's no way that she's been actually thinking and contemplating on these events. I think it says a lot that they've only responded to the George Floyd situation in written post or text, and haven't given a minute of their vlog time to discussing or commenting on it. Ruby probably knows how clueless and ignorant she'd sound if she actually tried to talk about it.

I can see from the video that they're still trying to stay under the radar with these vlogs. Short, with mostly just the kids, and showing happy moments. Interesting that Shari and Chad were allowed to stay home by themselves. I found it funny that Ruby was trying to emphasize the whole family being together and included Julie, Bonnie, Beau, and all their kids in her vlog. I wonder if she felt snubbed that Julie tried to cut out her and her kids from her memorial day vlog, so she's over here trying to act like she's so loving to all her family.

[mollybaby]

So they’ve never addressed racism on a single vlog until now. They disgust me. They are using this tragedy to come back. If they truly cared about racism, it’d be something they addressed often and not just when everyone else is addressing it. They are sad it still exists? It’s always existed. It’s never gone away. I’ve never seen them socialize with anyone that doesn’t look like themselves. To me, it speaks volumes about people like them who suddenly speak out now when they’ve stayed silent thus far.

To the person who asked about them addressing if they’d be accepting of a gay child. I remember posting here that I saw ruby respond to an Instagram comment that seemed to be saying she’d be accepting if her child brought home a same sex partner and I was pleasantly surprised. I was reminded by everyone on this board about her homophobic past. Again, she’s someone who doesn’t outwardly address support for the lgbtq+ community but had no problem outwardly addressing her homophobic views during that chic filet video. Her honest feelings are the latter.

She’s a bandwagon jumper. I believe when all of the cameras are off, she could care less about anyone who isn’t just like her. There are so many days in a year, so many days they upload videos, they have a huge platform to address and support people. They choose to stay silent every day of the year. Today, one day, doesn’t make me think she supports black lives matter. The fact that she’s saying she’s sad racism still exists makes me think she truly thought racism had magically disappeared until George Floyd was killed. She’s honestly using this to come back to YouTube and it’s insanity.


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[imoverit]

So they’ve never addressed racism on a single vlog until now. They disgust me. They are using this tragedy to come back. If they truly cared about racism, it’d be something they addressed often and not just when everyone else is addressing it. They are sad it still exists? It’s always existed. It’s never gone away. I’ve never seen them socialize with anyone that doesn’t look like themselves. To me, it speaks volumes about people like them who suddenly speak out now when they’ve stayed silent thus far.

To the person who asked about them addressing if they’d be accepting of a gay child. I remember posting here that I saw ruby respond to an Instagram comment that seemed to be saying she’d be accepting if her child brought home a same sex partner and I was pleasantly surprised. I was reminded by everyone on this board about her homophobic past. Again, she’s someone who doesn’t outwardly address support for the lgbtq+ community but had no problem outwardly addressing her homophobic views during that chic filet video. Her honest feelings are the latter.

She’s a bandwagon jumper. I believe when all of the cameras are off, she could care less about anyone who isn’t just like her. There are so many days in a year, so many days they upload videos, they have a huge platform to address and support people. They choose to stay silent every day of the year. Today, one day, doesn’t make me think she supports black lives matter. The fact that she’s saying she’s sad racism still exists makes me think she truly thought racism had magically disappeared until George Floyd was killed. She’s honestly using this to come back to YouTube and it’s insanity.


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I guarantee Ruby is still absolutely clueless about the racism that exists in the US (and elsewhere). I don't want to start anything here, but these are 100% 'blue lives matter' people we're dealing with. She says the bare minimum she has to not to get (rightfully) attacked, and I'm sure she didn't write the short text on it anyway. They can't even bring themselves to fake a GOOD response, they are unwilling to show even performative support for BLM, all of them (and others - ie Jordan Page) have just talked circles around the issue and made it about themselves instead of addressing anything at all of substance. Ruby doesn't care about anybody else, period.

[athyker]

That video disgusts me and just proves yet again Ruby is only in this for money. She knows this is a hot topic right now and is counting on it getting a lot of views. I have never once seen her hang around any African American people. Never. So gross of her.

One thing I don't understand about the Mormon religion and I was raised Mormon is why at such a young age are you to make a commitment like a baptism. I don't remember mine at all. How is an 8 year old supposed to make that kind of decision?? They really have no choice.

"Responsible, honest, and humble" What Ruby expects but does not do herself! Hypocrite!!!

[athyker]

That video disgusts me and just proves yet again Ruby is only in this for money. She knows this is a hot topic right now and is counting on it getting a lot of views. I have never once seen her hang around any African American people. Never. So gross of her.

One thing I don't understand about the Mormon religion and I was raised Mormon is why at such a young age are you to make a commitment like a baptism. I don't remember mine at all. How is an 8 year old supposed to make that kind of decision?? They really have no choice.

"Responsible, honest, and humble" What Ruby expects but does not do herself! Hypocrite!!!

[PumpkinHead]

Are they seriously using George Floyd as an excuse as to why they haven't been uploading? How odd, since they were uploading/posting on instagram normally for a whole week after George Floyd's death... Today's video already has almost 2k dislikes; I don't think people are going to forget about this as quickly as Ruby is expecting them to. It's despicable that she's using the current events as an excuse for their absence! I hope this really is the end of 8 Passengers and the rest of the Griffiths clan.

[PumpkinHead]

That video disgusts me and just proves yet again Ruby is only in this for money. She knows this is a hot topic right now and is counting on it getting a lot of views. I have never once seen her hang around any African American people. Never. So gross of her.

One thing I don't understand about the Mormon religion and I was raised Mormon is why at such a young age are you to make a commitment like a baptism. I don't remember mine at all. How is an 8 year old supposed to make that kind of decision?? They really have no choice.

"Responsible, honest, and humble" What Ruby expects but does not do herself! Hypocrite!!!

I've always wondered about the baptism thing too. I used to live in a neighborhood that was mostly mormons and was friends with several people there, they always said that 8 is the perfect age because the child is finally old enough to know/understand what they're doing and make that decision. Which, in my opinion, seems like they just want to baptize kids as young as possible but also give them the illusion of choice, so they wait until they're just barely old enough (rather than doing it when they're babies like many religions do). I really wonder what would happen if a kid turned 8 and was like "nope, I don't want to get baptized." Would the parents be okay with that, or would the child be coerced into it somehow (something tells me it would be the latter, at least with the Griffiths)?

[athyker]

That video disgusts me and just proves yet again Ruby is only in this for money. She knows this is a hot topic right now and is counting on it getting a lot of views. I have never once seen her hang around any African American people. Never. So gross of her.

One thing I don't understand about the Mormon religion and I was raised Mormon is why at such a young age are you to make a commitment like a baptism. I don't remember mine at all. How is an 8 year old supposed to make that kind of decision?? They really have no choice.

"Responsible, honest, and humble" What Ruby expects but does not do herself! Hypocrite!!!

I've always wondered about the baptism thing too. I used to live in a neighborhood that was mostly mormons and was friends with several people there, they always said that 8 is the perfect age because the child is finally old enough to know/understand what they're doing and make that decision. Which, in my opinion, seems like they just want to baptize kids as young as possible but also give them the illusion of choice, so they wait until they're just barely old enough (rather than doing it when they're babies like many religions do). I really wonder what would happen if a kid turned 8 and was like "nope, I don't want to get baptized." Would the parents be okay with that, or would the child be coerced into it somehow (something tells me it would be the latter, at least with the Griffiths)?

There's no way at 8 years old you'd want to disappoint your parents, family, church leaders. No way. It's the thing to do. It's as if you're groomed to do it. I don't believe you understand the full commitment of it. I'm pretty sure all your Sunday school classes leading up to it are all about baptism although I honestly don't remember. I did find it interesting that Chad, Shari and Kevin didn't go. You know when they ran inside as Ruby was pulling out of the driveway the did a happy dance. LOL The second I turned 18 I had my name removed from the records.

[nesland300]

We are praying for the country and add our voices to those who seek a society of peace and equality where men and women will not be judged or treated differently because of the color of their skin.

Kind of like their church did until 1978?

The NEW Ruby was sickening sweet. Even her voice was softer and at at a higher pitch.

The beginning of the video says it was filmed before George Floyd died. Wouldn't that have been before this all blew up with them too? If so any change in Ruby wouldn't be a response to the situation.

[Parktown]

It is appalling that she is using Mr Floyd’s death to deflect attention from what she has been called out for!

[imoverit]

The beginning of the video says it was filmed before George Floyd died. Wouldn't that have been before this all blew up with them too? If so any change in Ruby wouldn't be a response to the situation.

Yes and I thought it was weird that they mentioned it was filmed before those events, like as an excuse for why they're acting like everything is fine in the video and not addressing it. As if they would address it even if it was filmed after, yeah right. Except maybe to condemn the protesting like Shari did. Also I'm glad this video makes it clear to everyone that they upload content that's 2 and a half weeks old, I find that so lazy and boring, and Ruby always acts like it's her secret tactic. When really it's very obvious.

[Ducklings4]

At the end she said they are going to see everyone on Monday at a cemetery. Julie just uploaded her Memorial Day Vlog. Maybe she will not be showing hers. I am appalled at the Griffiths families’ behavior at the cemetery as well. No reverence, just a scavenger hunt to find graves for money.

[emma2948]

This video is probably one of the better videos out there on 8 Passengers. A lot of the other YouTube channels (I feel like) are ALL only covering the main 2 things they've heard about this family, which is Eve going without a lunch, and Chad sleeping on a beanbag for 7 months. While these 2 things are important, and the lady in this video mentioned them as well, she did a bit more research about other odd things Ruby has done to her children and she genuinely seemed concerned about these children's wellbeing over the YouTube views she would get for filming about 8 Passengers.

[emma2948]

Smonkey Glow (video above) mentions there are rumors the camp Chad was sent to was an LGBT conversion camp.. she could find no confirmation of this but it got me thinking, could Chad be gay??? and that is why he was sent to the camp, may be why he is acting out and why his bed/room were taken away? (so he has no privacy, bed=where perversion could happen?) I know they are hardcore mormons so... thoughts? apologies if this has been brought up already!

I think it's possible and his ballroom dance phase made me wonder, especially abruptly it ended when he seemed so into it. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember them making him choose between it and football. If this turned out to be the case, it would make sense that they gave him a "choice" on camera but chose football for him off camera. It would also mesh with sending him away, the no privacy, deleting his social media and taking his phone permanently. As far as I know we haven't seen any direct evidence of it, but that doesn't mean much considering Ruby wouldn't include it in the videos anyway.

This might just be me, but I think that even if Chad was given a fair opportunity to choose between ballroom dance and football, and decided to ultimately do ballroom dance, that doesn't really say anything about him being gay. This is just my personal opinion, but I don't really see why there is so much seperation between what is deemed masculine and/or feminine hobbies and interests. If a boy likes doing makeup, that's great, it should not just be a 'feminine' thing and the boy could still like girls and be straight even if he does like makeup. If a female liked football, she wouldn't have to be lesbian to like football even if people see it as a more masculine hobby. You see what I mean? Of course if you are gay or lesbian there is absolutely nothing wrong with you, but the things that interest you/ things that you find genuinely interesting shouldn't deem your sexuality and who you are attracted to.

[emma2948]

they finally posted another video today but they didn't address what is going on against them in the video. they put something about the death of the george floyd and other black people and how everyone should be accepted no matter what their skin color or race is but i'm sure they don't accept anyone who isn't mormon. so they don't like other religions and they only posting that at the start of the video to make people think they were doing a good gesture as i'm sure they don't support black people at all. i don't think they are going to address it and are going to carefully upload videos with everyone acting normal so people believe that she has changed and won't do bad things anything so you doesn't put those things on camera anymore.

I was quite surprised by how short today's vlog was. Usually the vlogs are 10-15 minutes long, some videos are even 20 minutes long (like the video where Chad got his bed taken away). I have a feeling Ruby cut out a TON of stuff on today's vlog that more people could have called her out on. And it wouldn't surprise me if the length of her upcoming videos are shorter then usual too, as she is probably cutting out a lot of her parenting advice out of those coming videos as to not face more backlash than she already has.

[emma2948]

Can we just talk about how at that time in the video she said that one small plastic baggy of dog food is supposed to last several days??? I have two dogs, a big dog, and a small terrier, that one baggy wouldn't last him 2 days and he is very much a healthy weight, I sure hope they aren't starving their dog along with their daughter now. I also heavily dislike how they put in that few second clip of some text on their intro in "support" of the BLM moevment, despite them clearly doing nothing good to support it such as donating or spreading awareness, and when they did post an Instagram photo, Ruby used it as a way to minimalise her abuse and put the destruction of PROPERTY over HUMAN LIVES. OH! Chad is actually getting some peace and quiet???? Who knew that Ruby would leave Chad and Shari alone to the house, despite her clearly not having any trust in him, as shown by the lack of doors and no electronic! What had gotten into her? I also notice that his face drops when he looks at the camera, anyone else see it? He does it again at around 1:35, almost as if he is quickly dismissing his parents to get as much freedom as possible. Might be nothing but still strange nonetheless.

It wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if Ruby took the electronics with her (the electronics that she could have taken anyway) including the TV remote, as a way to continue punishing Chad. She probably didn't take away any of Shari's electronics though, as she is the perfect brainwashed daughter Ruby always wanted. Also, maybe Ruby has Shari watching Chad to make sure he doesn't "misbehave," it wouldn't shock me if Shari told Ruby all the "bad" things he did while Ruby and the other family is away. I'm sorry if this came across as an attack on Shari, but I really cannot stand her anymore AT ALL. She has clearly proven that she is just another replica of her mother and honest to God, I worry for Shari's future 6+ children.

[emma2948]

Can we just talk about how at that time in the video she said that one small plastic baggy of dog food is supposed to last several days??? I have two dogs, a big dog, and a small terrier, that one baggy wouldn't last him 2 days and he is very much a healthy weight, I sure hope they aren't starving their dog along with their daughter now. I also heavily dislike how they put in that few second clip of some text on their intro in "support" of the BLM moevment, despite them clearly doing nothing good to support it such as donating or spreading awareness, and when they did post an Instagram photo, Ruby used it as a way to minimalise her abuse and put the destruction of PROPERTY over HUMAN LIVES. OH! Chad is actually getting some peace and quiet???? Who knew that Ruby would leave Chad and Shari alone to the house, despite her clearly not having any trust in him, as shown by the lack of doors and no electronic! What had gotten into her? I also notice that his face drops when he looks at the camera, anyone else see it? He does it again at around 1:35, almost as if he is quickly dismissing his parents to get as much freedom as possible. Might be nothing but still strange nonetheless.

It wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if Ruby took the electronics with her (the electronics that she could have taken anyway) including the TV remote, as a way to continue punishing Chad. She probably didn't take away any of Shari's electronics though, as she is the perfect brainwashed daughter Ruby always wanted. Also, maybe Ruby has Shari watching Chad to make sure he doesn't "misbehave," it wouldn't shock me if Shari told Ruby all the "bad" things he did while Ruby and the other family is away. I'm sorry if this came across as an attack on Shari, but I really cannot stand her anymore AT ALL. She has clearly proven that she is just another replica of her mother and honest to God, I worry for Shari's future 6+ children.

[McGuinness_]

Can we just talk about how at that time in the video she said that one small plastic baggy of dog food is supposed to last several days??? I have two dogs, a big dog, and a small terrier, that one baggy wouldn't last him 2 days and he is very much a healthy weight, I sure hope they aren't starving their dog along with their daughter now. I also heavily dislike how they put in that few second clip of some text on their intro in "support" of the BLM moevment, despite them clearly doing nothing good to support it such as donating or spreading awareness, and when they did post an Instagram photo, Ruby used it as a way to minimalise her abuse and put the destruction of PROPERTY over HUMAN LIVES. OH! Chad is actually getting some peace and quiet???? Who knew that Ruby would leave Chad and Shari alone to the house, despite her clearly not having any trust in him, as shown by the lack of doors and no electronic! What had gotten into her? I also notice that his face drops when he looks at the camera, anyone else see it? He does it again at around 1:35, almost as if he is quickly dismissing his parents to get as much freedom as possible. Might be nothing but still strange nonetheless.

It wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if Ruby took the electronics with her (the electronics that she could have taken anyway) including the TV remote, as a way to continue punishing Chad. She probably didn't take away any of Shari's electronics though, as she is the perfect brainwashed daughter Ruby always wanted. Also, maybe Ruby has Shari watching Chad to make sure he doesn't "misbehave," it wouldn't shock me if Shari told Ruby all the "bad" things he did while Ruby and the other family is away. I'm sorry if this came across as an attack on Shari, but I really cannot stand her anymore AT ALL. She has clearly proven that she is just another replica of her mother and honest to God, I worry for Shari's future 6+ children.

That would be downright EVIL. Although I do remember her mentioning a safe where his electronics and TV Remote are in, the same place she also mentioned she made him wake up at 6am and stare at to think about his actions... Also, if she did make her golden child look after him then that is wrong on so many levels... no privacy, no freedom... nothing.