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I don't understand why they thought it was appropriate to film during Cassidy's hospital admission. Alex did panning shots of the baby in the hospital bed then had upbeat music playing while she made her own bed and got dressed in the morning. Why does she think we want to see her putting on deodorant when her child is very ill in hospital?

Every single thing to them is vlog fodder.
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Alex: “ maybe if I just stayed in bed all day and focused on feeding her we wouldn’t be at this point”

NO Alex, if you just FED her on a SCHEDULE PERIOD maybe this wouldn’t have happened, not sure why you would need to be in bed in order to do that.... AHHH this woman drives me crazy. I honestly wonder if she has clinical depression, her life seems to revolve around the obsession of staying in bed and sleeping. Plus she admitted in the video that Cassidy sleeps for huge chunks of time throughout the night and into the daytime... for her to have the nerve to complain about her lack of sleep while she had been sleeping peacefully while depriving her newborn of nourishment is maddening.
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skiingmama1 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:23 pm Alex: “ maybe if I just stayed in bed all day and focused on feeding her we wouldn’t be at this point”

NO Alex, if you just FED her on a SCHEDULE PERIOD maybe this wouldn’t have happened, not sure why you would need to be in bed in order to do that.... AHHH this woman drives me crazy. I honestly wonder if she has clinical depression, her life seems to revolve around the obsession of staying in bed and sleeping. Plus she admitted in the video that Cassidy sleeps for huge chunks of time throughout the night and into the daytime... for her to have the nerve to complain about her lack of sleep while she had been sleeping peacefully while depriving her newborn of nourishment is maddening.

I don't think it's depression. She's just an A-level narcissist. And narcissists are ambitious. Which means her life revolves around doing what pleases her, and making sure she gets what she wants. I think she LIKES to sleep and nap and not do very much, and therefore as a narcissist she demands the people around her make that her reality. If there is something she wants more than sleep she has no trouble getting out of bed. I don't think that looks like depression.
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skiingmama1 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:23 pm Alex: “ maybe if I just stayed in bed all day and focused on feeding her we wouldn’t be at this point”

NO Alex, if you just FED her on a SCHEDULE PERIOD maybe this wouldn’t have happened, not sure why you would need to be in bed in order to do that.... AHHH this woman drives me crazy. I honestly wonder if she has clinical depression, her life seems to revolve around the obsession of staying in bed and sleeping. Plus she admitted in the video that Cassidy sleeps for huge chunks of time throughout the night and into the daytime... for her to have the nerve to complain about her lack of sleep while she had been sleeping peacefully while depriving her newborn of nourishment is maddening.

I don't think it's depression. She's just an A-level narcissist. And narcissists are ambitious. Which means her life revolves around doing what pleases her, and making sure she gets what she wants. I think she LIKES to sleep and nap and not do very much, and therefore as a narcissist she demands the people around her make that her reality. If there is something she wants more than sleep she has no trouble getting out of bed. I don't think that looks like depression.
That quote caught me too in the vlog.

Princess Alex just wants to lay in bed and do nothing but hold the baby and prove that her boobs are the magic cure she wants them to be. She has this weird perception of motherhood as being about her and not the baby: being pampered and showered in praises by family because of all that her body is capable of.

Laying in bed all day and forcing Cassidy on the boob won’t help. She needed a schedule from day 1. She needed high calorie formula supplementation and a mother that would pump and keep track of her intake.

But that doesn’t align with the motherhood aesthetic that Alex is all about
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Funny, but I thought what she really meant to say, was:

If wonderful unicorn baby Cassidy was my only child (like it should have been, Phillip!!) I would have had time to spend all this extra effort on her and not be distracted by these unruly non-bio children. But alas, they make me fail my bio baby, it’s their fault or It’s Phillip’s fault, but it is most certainly NOT MY FAULT!!!

Also, Alex is such a fuckin know it all. She doesn’t want anyone’s advice, sob story, experience, she knows it all, she was a NICU nurse, she KNOWS EVERYTHING. the fake posts asking for help are just that, fake. She wants to encourage the engagement for $$$, but she does not want to hear any of it.

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"Phil will have to come back (home) be with the girls and help my parents"
Help your parents with what exactly? To help look after his daughters? Your parents are there to help Phil with them, not the other way around.

And her last words to Phil on the phone at the end of the vlog "I'm so tired" I'm sure you're parents are too.

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skiingmama1 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:23 pm Alex: “ maybe if I just stayed in bed all day and focused on feeding her we wouldn’t be at this point”

NO Alex, if you just FED her on a SCHEDULE PERIOD maybe this wouldn’t have happened, not sure why you would need to be in bed in order to do that.... AHHH this woman drives me crazy. I honestly wonder if she has clinical depression, her life seems to revolve around the obsession of staying in bed and sleeping. Plus she admitted in the video that Cassidy sleeps for huge chunks of time throughout the night and into the daytime... for her to have the nerve to complain about her lack of sleep while she had been sleeping peacefully while depriving her newborn of nourishment is maddening.

I don't think it's depression. She's just an A-level narcissist. And narcissists are ambitious. Which means her life revolves around doing what pleases her, and making sure she gets what she wants. I think she LIKES to sleep and nap and not do very much, and therefore as a narcissist she demands the people around her make that her reality. If there is something she wants more than sleep she has no trouble getting out of bed. I don't think that looks like depression.
That quote caught me too in the vlog.

Princess Alex just wants to lay in bed and do nothing but hold the baby and prove that her boobs are the magic cure she wants them to be. She has this weird perception of motherhood as being about her and not the baby: being pampered and showered in praises by family because of all that her body is capable of.

Laying in bed all day and forcing Cassidy on the boob won’t help. She needed a schedule from day 1. She needed high calorie formula supplementation and a mother that would pump and keep track of her intake.

But that doesn’t align with the motherhood aesthetic that Alex is all about
That vlog really makes them look bad. You know she's having issues already but you let her go 12 hours without feeding well to take her in? And she magically starts taking a bottle when they get to the hospital Image all the tears and dramatics.... there's a time for that after. My daughter and I had to go in for a few days for a study and the only time I cried was afterwards, awaiting the results, wondering if I could have done anything to cause the issue. I had another child at home to hubby stayed with them and honestly wgaf about the "sacrifices" you have to make for your child? Take a breath, put on your big girl pants and be a strong parent for your child. Sorry, maybe I'm being really cold but all the tears bothered me. Its not about her its about Cassidy. And being so disgusted by the thought of "force feeding" with an ng tube was shocking. Alex does not know all just because she was a (ify at best) ICU nurse. Being monitored and having people who can help you around 24/7 would literally be best case scenario to fix your child's problem. Thank goodness she got the ng tube!

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I want to chime in as someone who went through 11 years of infertility, 3 miscarriages, and 5 rounds of IVF. Going through all that time, you have literally years to hope, idealize, and dream about what it would be like to be pregnant and to breastfeed, and to finally spend time with your baby. Alex’s situation is very different from mine, because I didn’t have adopted placeholder babies to get me through. But I would imagine she still feels at least some of what I felt:

-being robbed of yet another experience,
-feeling like your baby’s newborn-ness is flying by meanwhile you barely get to hold her or spend time alone bonding because baby is hooked up to machines and nurses and doctors keep interrupting you,
-feeling guilt— overwhelming guilt— that you couldn’t have prevented the birth defect or that the time you spend pouring yourself into pumping and nursing just isn’t even what your baby needs

It’s a lot. Add to that the fear of her heart condition, missing your other kids, hormone changes, weird postpartum body, etc., and it’s a lot for anyone to handle!

Alex wants to pretend she is immune to all that. She wants to portray herself as being in control and yippy-skippy-Jesus-is-my-BFF happy all the time. She is having a hard time about so many things, but she feels like she has to keep proving to her fans that she is above it, or try to relate to them on a superficial level like, “Now I understand all the normal new Mommy things!” I suspect she will be very hard on Phil and the older girls because she desperately wants them to just step out of the way and create a bubble for Alex+Cassidy. She hasn’t really had that yet and she won’t stop until she does. I think she feels so disappointed because none of this experience was what she wanted it to be. She wanted to be a crunchy mommy vlogger who spends all her days cooking organic food, doing Pinterest crafts with the girls, and leading a yt Bible study group. She wanted to be like <<this>> and instead, she is depressed and her life is chaos.
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boredonthekeyboard wrote:I want to chime in as someone who went through 11 years of infertility, 3 miscarriages, and 5 rounds of IVF. Going through all that time, you have literally years to hope, idealize, and dream about what it would be like to be pregnant and to breastfeed, and to finally spend time with your baby. Alex’s situation is very different from mine, because I didn’t have adopted placeholder babies to get me through. But I would imagine she still feels at least some of what I felt:

-being robbed of yet another experience,
-feeling like your baby’s newborn-ness is flying by meanwhile you barely get to hold her or spend time alone bonding because baby is hooked up to machines and nurses and doctors keep interrupting you,
-feeling guilt— overwhelming guilt— that you couldn’t have prevented the birth defect or that the time you spend pouring yourself into pumping and nursing just isn’t even what your baby needs

It’s a lot. Add to that the fear of her heart condition, missing your other kids, hormone changes, weird postpartum body, etc., and it’s a lot for anyone to handle!

Alex wants to pretend she is immune to all that. She wants to portray herself as being in control and yippy-skippy-Jesus-is-my-BFF happy all the time. She is having a hard time about so many things, but she feels like she has to keep proving to her fans that she is above it, or try to relate to them on a superficial level like, “Now I understand all the normal new Mommy things!” I suspect she will be very hard on Phil and the older girls because she desperately wants them to just step out of the way and create a bubble for Alex+Cassidy. She hasn’t really had that yet and she won’t stop until she does. I think she feels so disappointed because none of this experience was what she wanted it to be. She wanted to be a crunchy mommy vlogger who spends all her days cooking organic food, doing Pinterest crafts with the girls, and leading a yt Bible study group. She wanted to be like <<this>> and instead, she is depressed and her life is chaos.
Well said.
My IVF baby was also in the NICU and you do feel so robbed. It’s awful after all the pain to get there and then you feel like the newborn days are stolen. But most people just go into survival mode and get on with what has to be done. Most of us didn’t vlog the whole thing. We used the time to make the best of a bad time and not waste that time having histrionics for the camera.


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FFS.

1. Your baby is in desperate need of nutrition. Stop masking hunger cues. Feed your baby.
2. Your baby is too young to be sitting upright unsupported.

These people are fucking morons and my heart bleeds for poor baby Cassidy.


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That baby has been discharged from the hospital less than 48hrs ago and she already back to looking super dehydrated. Whatever Alex is doing isn’t working, I wonder if she “fakes” giving Cassidy the NG food and just carries on BF, fuck all the doctors and nurses at the hospital.


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Elliecat wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:11 am
boredonthekeyboard wrote:I want to chime in as someone who went through 11 years of infertility, 3 miscarriages, and 5 rounds of IVF. Going through all that time, you have literally years to hope, idealize, and dream about what it would be like to be pregnant and to breastfeed, and to finally spend time with your baby. Alex’s situation is very different from mine, because I didn’t have adopted placeholder babies to get me through. But I would imagine she still feels at least some of what I felt:

-being robbed of yet another experience,
-feeling like your baby’s newborn-ness is flying by meanwhile you barely get to hold her or spend time alone bonding because baby is hooked up to machines and nurses and doctors keep interrupting you,
-feeling guilt— overwhelming guilt— that you couldn’t have prevented the birth defect or that the time you spend pouring yourself into pumping and nursing just isn’t even what your baby needs

It’s a lot. Add to that the fear of her heart condition, missing your other kids, hormone changes, weird postpartum body, etc., and it’s a lot for anyone to handle!

Alex wants to pretend she is immune to all that. She wants to portray herself as being in control and yippy-skippy-Jesus-is-my-BFF happy all the time. She is having a hard time about so many things, but she feels like she has to keep proving to her fans that she is above it, or try to relate to them on a superficial level like, “Now I understand all the normal new Mommy things!” I suspect she will be very hard on Phil and the older girls because she desperately wants them to just step out of the way and create a bubble for Alex+Cassidy. She hasn’t really had that yet and she won’t stop until she does. I think she feels so disappointed because none of this experience was what she wanted it to be. She wanted to be a crunchy mommy vlogger who spends all her days cooking organic food, doing Pinterest crafts with the girls, and leading a yt Bible study group. She wanted to be like <<this>> and instead, she is depressed and her life is chaos.
Well said.
My IVF baby was also in the NICU and you do feel so robbed. It’s awful after all the pain to get there and then you feel like the newborn days are stolen. But most people just go into survival mode and get on with what has to be done. Most of us didn’t vlog the whole thing. We used the time to make the best of a bad time and not waste that time having histrionics for the camera.


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You hit the nail on the head. I think we all can agree that Alex has had to deal with some major disappointment, but this woman is literally addicted to sympathy. Sympathy for her infertility, Callie's adoption experience, the miscarriage, the RV disasters, Cassidy's heart defect, her childbirth experience, the hospital's COVID policy, for the lack of sleep, and now for Cassidy's weight struggles. Even when it's not about Alex, she finds a way to make herself the victim. I honestly don't know how Phil remains so enamored with her because she seems utterly draining.
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boredonthekeyboard wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:46 am I want to chime in as someone who went through 11 years of infertility, 3 miscarriages, and 5 rounds of IVF. Going through all that time, you have literally years to hope, idealize, and dream about what it would be like to be pregnant and to breastfeed, and to finally spend time with your baby. Alex’s situation is very different from mine, because I didn’t have adopted placeholder babies to get me through. But I would imagine she still feels at least some of what I felt:

-being robbed of yet another experience,
-feeling like your baby’s newborn-ness is flying by meanwhile you barely get to hold her or spend time alone bonding because baby is hooked up to machines and nurses and doctors keep interrupting you,
-feeling guilt— overwhelming guilt— that you couldn’t have prevented the birth defect or that the time you spend pouring yourself into pumping and nursing just isn’t even what your baby needs

It’s a lot. Add to that the fear of her heart condition, missing your other kids, hormone changes, weird postpartum body, etc., and it’s a lot for anyone to handle!

Alex wants to pretend she is immune to all that. She wants to portray herself as being in control and yippy-skippy-Jesus-is-my-BFF happy all the time. She is having a hard time about so many things, but she feels like she has to keep proving to her fans that she is above it, or try to relate to them on a superficial level like, “Now I understand all the normal new Mommy things!” I suspect she will be very hard on Phil and the older girls because she desperately wants them to just step out of the way and create a bubble for Alex+Cassidy. She hasn’t really had that yet and she won’t stop until she does. I think she feels so disappointed because none of this experience was what she wanted it to be. She wanted to be a crunchy mommy vlogger who spends all her days cooking organic food, doing Pinterest crafts with the girls, and leading a yt Bible study group. She wanted to be like <<this>> and instead, she is depressed and her life is chaos.
I have 2 big things in regards to this:

1. This would be a perfect opportunity to open up the conversation about that “experience” and be incredibly raw and real to those who have walked that road...

2. By no means am I invalidating anyone’s experience however I think this is another eye opener in that having a child isn’t about You(not YOU personally but “you”’in the general sense)..the moment that child comes along the goal is to raise, educate and keep that child alive. I think all moms go through a “fantasy” about how things will be but then you give birth and nothing goes according to how you pictured it. Nothing can prepare you...things never go according to plan..part of parenting is adapting and being flexible because your wants and needs are not the center of the world anymore.

Regardless it would be amazing if she showcased those real life emotions and fears.
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Elliecat wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:09 pm

FFS.

1. Your baby is in desperate need of nutrition. Stop masking hunger cues. Feed your baby.
2. Your baby is too young to be sitting upright unsupported.

These people are fucking morons and my heart bleeds for poor baby Cassidy.


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The fact that she placed a smaller tube herself says it all.I honestly think Cassidy won’t make it till heart surgery
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Amsouthernbell wrote:
Elliecat wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:09 pm

FFS.

1. Your baby is in desperate need of nutrition. Stop masking hunger cues. Feed your baby.
2. Your baby is too young to be sitting upright unsupported.

These people are fucking morons and my heart bleeds for poor baby Cassidy.


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The fact that she placed a smaller tube herself says it all.I honestly think Cassidy won’t make it till heart surgery
I just saw that. Ffs. I'd say I hope they talked to the doctors first but obviously Alex knows best ImageImage

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Amsouthernbell wrote:
Elliecat wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:09 pm

FFS.

1. Your baby is in desperate need of nutrition. Stop masking hunger cues. Feed your baby.
2. Your baby is too young to be sitting upright unsupported.

These people are fucking morons and my heart bleeds for poor baby Cassidy.


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The fact that she placed a smaller tube herself says it all.I honestly think Cassidy won’t make it till heart surgery
What a terrible thought, but we’re all thinking it right? Why are they so relaxed about this? She looked so much better in the hospital and then they go home and just place her on a big bed or on the floor and go about their lives. I hate thinking about how much Cassidy is suffering, poor sweet baby.


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Elliecat wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:09 pm
FFS.

1. Your baby is in desperate need of nutrition. Stop masking hunger cues. Feed your baby.
2. Your baby is too young to be sitting upright unsupported.

These people are fucking morons and my heart bleeds for poor baby Cassidy.


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Holy cow does she look terrible in this picture!
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131618 wrote:
Amsouthernbell wrote:
Elliecat wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:09 pm

FFS.

1. Your baby is in desperate need of nutrition. Stop masking hunger cues. Feed your baby.
2. Your baby is too young to be sitting upright unsupported.

These people are fucking morons and my heart bleeds for poor baby Cassidy.


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The fact that she placed a smaller tube herself says it all.I honestly think Cassidy won’t make it till heart surgery
I just saw that. Ffs. I'd say I hope they talked to the doctors first but obviously Alex knows best ImageImage

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Shes been out of nursing for how long?? And a smaller tube means it takes longer for the same amount of feed to go in... how is that ideal? Also begs the question- where did she get the spare tube from in the first place?? Yes she can “technically” place a new tube, doesn’t mean she should. You have to check ph and acidity etc after each change to check its in the right place. Image shes a moron.
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