8 Passengers: No beds, no food, but mom loves motherhood! | Part 18

[mikaydean]

Did they only post 1 video this week?

[boychik0830]

Did they only post 1 video this week?

Yes and I think they are very careful with what they upload so they don't get in trouble. They probably don't have anything safe to upload so they aren't uploading anything.

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[Josette]

So, in the end, Julie won't be able to have her own room. Ruby won, as always.
When I was a child my parents took me and my brother to the shops and we chose the furniture for our rooms. They're teens and don't even get to choose their own bed. So sad.


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While my sister & I didn't get to choose our beds or bedroom furniture (I still have my childhood dresser & nightstand), we were allowed to decorate our bedrooms with pictures from magazines, posters, etc.. Had to share a room until my folks decided to convert the room next to the bathroom into a bedroom & my sister moved into it. That room had originally been where we kept out washer & dryer, but dad expanded the utility room connected to the carport so there was enough room for the washer, dryer, storage cupboards & a chest freezer.

It can be a real trial sharing a bedroom unnecessarily too. I was a Felix, while my sister was an Oscar, and in this case there are zero reasons for Julie & Abby to share a bedroom in such a large house. Our house was small by comparison so when we moved in there were only two bedrooms until a couple of years later.

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[lmmomSD]

#parenting? Gotta use the hashtag to get more views.
She is the last person who should be giving parenting advice.

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[Kattiness Everdeen]

#parenting? Gotta use the hashtag to get more views.
She is the last person who should be giving parenting advice.

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You know it is great "school" when the name is misspelled (ConneXions) AND the current students are the ones giving the lessons. Ruby is the perfect parenting coach; CPS told her so during the recent abuse investigation!

-------------------------

Did anyone else notice that the only lesson to date is still, identifying truth vs. distortion? I could teach the class just from watching her vlogs. "The truth is", locals view this nonsense as the new MLM/pyramid scheme. I don't think that post of mine ever went through. Per a series of YT comments, I learned that after the short "life coach" course, the students then become employees that are also forced to pay for/attend weekly counseling sessions (sex and marriage), and recruit their own students to teach/fleece. Ruby appears to be recruited & taught by that genealogy woman Paige, who brought R&K to the UK.

Based on the criminal case against owner Jodi Hildebrandt (Chad's therapist), it almost sounds like how Scientologists control/blackmail their members through "auditing". Kevin better watch out, that woman almost lost her medical license divulging one of her employee-patient's private info, getting the husband booted from both BYU and the Mormon church. All for the low price of $2000 per month. Not to mention that local in the YT comments said that the week long training session in SD is $13k, and they will set you up with another MLM to earn the money.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php? ... type=CMSID

[rulatows000]

#parenting? Gotta use the hashtag to get more views.
She is the last person who should be giving parenting advice.

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You know it is great "school" when the name is misspelled (ConneXions) AND the current students are the ones giving the lessons. Ruby is the perfect parenting coach; CPS told her so during the recent abuse investigation!

-------------------------

Did anyone else notice that the only lesson to date is still, identifying truth vs. distortion? I could teach the class just from watching her vlogs. "The truth is", locals view this nonsense as the new MLM/pyramid scheme. I don't think that post of mine ever went through. Per a series of YT comments, I learned that after the short "life coach" course, the students then become employees that are also forced to pay for/attend weekly counseling sessions (sex and marriage), and recruit their own students to teach/fleece. Ruby appears to be recruited & taught by that genealogy woman Paige, who brought R&K to the UK.

Based on the criminal case against owner Jodi Hildebrandt (Chad's therapist), it almost sounds like how Scientologists control/blackmail their members through "auditing". Kevin better watch out, that woman almost lost her medical license divulging one of her employee-patient's private info, getting the husband booted from both BYU and the Mormon church. All for the low price of $2000 per month. Not to mention that local in the YT comments said that the week long training session in SD is $13k, and they will set you up with another MLM to earn the money.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php? ... type=CMSID

Jesus Christ, that's the woman they had counseling Chad?! She divulged sensitive information without her patient's permission and got him into trouble with his church. She also repeatedly threatened him that he had to take more sessions with her and accused him of having problems, addictions, and conditions that she never formally diagnosed him with. No wonder they chose her to be Chad's therapist. Was he already seeing her prior to Anasazi? I'm guessing she probably counsels him under the pretense of keeping everything he says between him and her, but then probably goes behind his back to report back to Ruby and Kevin so they can punish him for whatever he admits to or asks for help with. No wonder they always try to act like Chad has so many issues and problems, because this woman probably makes it all up and tries to demonize Chad to them. I'm really worried about Chad now if he was being blackmailed and manipulated by this woman, made to believe he has problems that he doesn't, and possibly got sent away because of stuff she said about him. How awful.

[nikki20031]

I'm a designer and graduated from design school. The room looks stark, much like the rooms at a convalescent home or psych ward. There's no personality showing anyone lives there.

Oftentimes, people who decorate this way have a lot of mental clutter and empty spaces are their way to control their environment. It could also be significant in importance, with more carefully decorated rooms having more color and decor. People don't place as much significance on their laundry room, for example, so that's why they're usually stark.

If I were Ruby, I'd add some textured white drapes and white picture frames displaying art that the kids create on the walls. It would still be minimalist, but look more lived in. A good example is how Shawni Eyre, from the 71 toes blog, decorated her daughters rooms.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

#parenting? Gotta use the hashtag to get more views.
She is the last person who should be giving parenting advice.

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You know it is great "school" when the name is misspelled (ConneXions) AND the current students are the ones giving the lessons. Ruby is the perfect parenting coach; CPS told her so during the recent abuse investigation!

-------------------------

Did anyone else notice that the only lesson to date is still, identifying truth vs. distortion? I could teach the class just from watching her vlogs. "The truth is", locals view this nonsense as the new MLM/pyramid scheme. I don't think that post of mine ever went through. Per a series of YT comments, I learned that after the short "life coach" course, the students then become employees that are also forced to pay for/attend weekly counseling sessions (sex and marriage), and recruit their own students to teach/fleece. Ruby appears to be recruited & taught by that genealogy woman Paige, who brought R&K to the UK.

Based on the criminal case against owner Jodi Hildebrandt (Chad's therapist), it almost sounds like how Scientologists control/blackmail their members through "auditing". Kevin better watch out, that woman almost lost her medical license divulging one of her employee-patient's private info, getting the husband booted from both BYU and the Mormon church. All for the low price of $2000 per month. Not to mention that local in the YT comments said that the week long training session in SD is $13k, and they will set you up with another MLM to earn the money.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php? ... type=CMSID

Jesus Christ, that's the woman they had counseling Chad?! She divulged sensitive information without her patient's permission and got him into trouble with his church. She also repeatedly threatened him that he had to take more sessions with her and accused him of having problems, addictions, and conditions that she never formally diagnosed him with. No wonder they chose her to be Chad's therapist. Was he already seeing her prior to Anasazi? I'm guessing she probably counsels him under the pretense of keeping everything he says between him and her, but then probably goes behind his back to report back to Ruby and Kevin so they can punish him for whatever he admits to or asks for help with. No wonder they always try to act like Chad has so many issues and problems, because this woman probably makes it all up and tries to demonize Chad to them. I'm really worried about Chad now if he was being blackmailed and manipulated by this woman, made to believe he has problems that he doesn't, and possibly got sent away because of stuff she said about him. How awful.

I went back to the vlogs in question, to refresh my memory on the timeline. I am starting to convince myself that there really could be some Scientology-like blackmail going on here. I wonder if Jodi Hildebrandt learned her lesson from the previous blackmail scheme gone awry, and built a business of "life coaches" completely unqualified to provide therapy, but also not bound by any laws or ethics like she is as a medical professional. The entire ConneXions business is set up so people without any legal responsibility for HIPPA confidentiality or malpractice can pretend to be psychologists and collect all the secrets of the Mormon community. I wonder if the Mormon church is still funding her projects? I hid my Ted Talk under a spoiler so I didn't clutter the thread.

1. Johnny and Paige Hanna, introduced Ruby to Jodi Hildebrandt's methods around January 2019. Both Johnny and Paige are life coaches with ConneXions, and on the board of directors. They have been helping Jodi Hildbrandt build the ConneXions business for 4 years, making up 50% of the business team.

https://www.connexionsclassroom.com/business-team

2. Around July 10th, 2020 Chad met Jodi Hildebrandt (virtually) while they were in Boston on the East coast road trip. (I wonder what the hell happened that they needed to call in a new therapist on vacation?) Chad said he liked Jodi because she is the only therapist ever to be straight with him and tell him how "messed up" he is. The first thing Jodi did is call Chad a liar when he said he was ready to work with her and make some changes. Chad had lost his phone for getting expelled from school and Jodi told him it would take months to years to get his phone back. (So that is where Ruby got that stellar parenting technique.) "Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!"

3. The second they returned from the East coast trip in July 2019, Chad was given a rushed midnight physical and shipped off to Anasazi. So I think it is fair to assume that it was a direct result of Jodi Hildebrandt's feedback. Although I can't find a direct connection between Jodi and Anasazi, besides the Mormon church/BYU.

4. October 2019, Chad came home from Anasazi.

5. November 2019, the Hannas brought Ruby and Kevin on vacation to the UK. Ruby started promoting their genealogy business, and then their real estate business Homie, which they used to sell their house.

https://www.graystokemedia.com/episode/40

6. January 2020, Ruby announced she will train to be a life coach at ConneXions ("Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!), although she had already spent a year following Jodi's teachings. Paige Hanna is one of her teachers, even though she has absolutely no credentials.
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Ruby was parroting the ConneXions concepts long before she decided to become a "life coach" (e.g. honest, responsible, humble). So, my assumption is that the Hanna family started recruiting Ruby a couple of years ago to try and boost their company's reach and cash flow. ConneXions is a membership based "coaching" service , so bringing in high profile people would be critical marketing to boost membership. Getting Ruby to be one of the coaches would also help sign up otherwise uninterested nutty fans that just want a chance to talk with their idol. I can't believe I am saying this, but I think Ruby might have been taken advantage of. Not only is she forced to spill her innermost secrets these people on a weekly basis and shill their fake "therapy" business, they have her shilling all their other businesses (Homie/Genealogy).

The Hannas brought Jodi Hildebrandt into Chad's life, which ultimately got him sent away and treated worse than the family dog. The fact that Chad still claims to really like Jodi knowing she was responsible for guiding his mother in these horrific punishments is really terrifying. I don't know what information these people have on Chad, Ruby and the Frankes, but the fact that they hired the most notorious Hollywood "fixer" as their lawyer, is really making my mind go to some dark places. Perhaps they really are being blackmailed, just like Jodi's ex-client. Maybe Ruby was even forced to market the Hanna's various businesses and work for ConneXions? What are they so afraid of getting out?

[Josette]

You know it is great "school" when the name is misspelled (ConneXions) AND the current students are the ones giving the lessons. Ruby is the perfect parenting coach; CPS told her so during the recent abuse investigation!

-------------------------

Did anyone else notice that the only lesson to date is still, identifying truth vs. distortion? I could teach the class just from watching her vlogs. "The truth is", locals view this nonsense as the new MLM/pyramid scheme. I don't think that post of mine ever went through. Per a series of YT comments, I learned that after the short "life coach" course, the students then become employees that are also forced to pay for/attend weekly counseling sessions (sex and marriage), and recruit their own students to teach/fleece. Ruby appears to be recruited & taught by that genealogy woman Paige, who brought R&K to the UK.

Based on the criminal case against owner Jodi Hildebrandt (Chad's therapist), it almost sounds like how Scientologists control/blackmail their members through "auditing". Kevin better watch out, that woman almost lost her medical license divulging one of her employee-patient's private info, getting the husband booted from both BYU and the Mormon church. All for the low price of $2000 per month. Not to mention that local in the YT comments said that the week long training session in SD is $13k, and they will set you up with another MLM to earn the money.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php? ... type=CMSID

Jesus Christ, that's the woman they had counseling Chad?! She divulged sensitive information without her patient's permission and got him into trouble with his church. She also repeatedly threatened him that he had to take more sessions with her and accused him of having problems, addictions, and conditions that she never formally diagnosed him with. No wonder they chose her to be Chad's therapist. Was he already seeing her prior to Anasazi? I'm guessing she probably counsels him under the pretense of keeping everything he says between him and her, but then probably goes behind his back to report back to Ruby and Kevin so they can punish him for whatever he admits to or asks for help with. No wonder they always try to act like Chad has so many issues and problems, because this woman probably makes it all up and tries to demonize Chad to them. I'm really worried about Chad now if he was being blackmailed and manipulated by this woman, made to believe he has problems that he doesn't, and possibly got sent away because of stuff she said about him. How awful.

I went back to the vlogs in question, to refresh my memory on the timeline. I am starting to convince myself that there really could be some Scientology-like blackmail going on here. I wonder if Jodi Hildebrandt learned her lesson from the previous blackmail scheme gone awry, and built a business of "life coaches" completely unqualified to provide therapy, but also not bound by any laws or ethics like she is as a medical professional. The entire ConneXions business is set up so people without any legal responsibility for HIPPA confidentiality or malpractice can pretend to be psychologists and collect all the secrets of the Mormon community. I wonder if the Mormon church is still funding her projects? I hid my Ted Talk under a spoiler so I didn't clutter the thread.

1. Johnny and Paige Hanna, introduced Ruby to Jodi Hildebrandt's methods around January 2019. Both Johnny and Paige are life coaches with ConneXions, and on the board of directors. They have been helping Jodi Hildbrandt build the ConneXions business for 4 years, making up 50% of the business team.

https://www.connexionsclassroom.com/business-team

2. Around July 10th, 2020 Chad met Jodi Hildebrandt (virtually) while they were in Boston on the East coast road trip. (I wonder what the hell happened that they needed to call in a new therapist on vacation?) Chad said he liked Jodi because she is the only therapist ever to be straight with him and tell him how "messed up" he is. The first thing Jodi did is call Chad a liar when he said he was ready to work with her and make some changes. Chad had lost his phone for getting expelled from school and Jodi told him it would take months to years to get his phone back. (So that is where Ruby got that stellar parenting technique.) "Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!"

3. The second they returned from the East coast trip in July 2019, Chad was given a rushed midnight physical and shipped off to Anasazi. So I think it is fair to assume that it was a direct result of Jodi Hildebrandt's feedback. Although I can't find a direct connection between Jodi and Anasazi, besides the Mormon church/BYU.

4. October 2019, Chad came home from Anasazi.

5. November 2019, the Hannas brought Ruby and Kevin on vacation to the UK. Ruby started promoting their genealogy business, and then their real estate business Homie, which they used to sell their house.

https://www.graystokemedia.com/episode/40

6. January 2020, Ruby announced she will train to be a life coach at ConneXions ("Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!), although she had already spent a year following Jodi's teachings. Paige Hanna is one of her teachers, even though she has absolutely no credentials.
-------------------------------------
Ruby was parroting the ConneXions concepts long before she decided to become a "life coach" (e.g. honest, responsible, humble). So, my assumption is that the Hanna family started recruiting Ruby a couple of years ago to try and boost their company's reach and cash flow. ConneXions is a membership based "coaching" service , so bringing in high profile people would be critical marketing to boost membership. Getting Ruby to be one of the coaches would also help sign up otherwise uninterested nutty fans that just want a chance to talk with their idol. I can't believe I am saying this, but I think Ruby might have been taken advantage of. Not only is she forced to spill her innermost secrets these people on a weekly basis and shill their fake "therapy" business, they have her shilling all their other businesses (Homie/Genealogy).

The Hannas brought Jodi Hildebrandt into Chad's life, which ultimately got him sent away and treated worse than the family dog. The fact that Chad still claims to really like Jodi knowing she was responsible for guiding his mother in these horrific punishments is really terrifying. I don't know what information these people have on Chad, Ruby and the Frankes, but the fact that they hired the most notorious Hollywood "fixer" as their lawyer, is really making my mind go to some dark places. Perhaps they really are being blackmailed, just like Jodi's ex-client. Maybe Ruby was even forced to market the Hanna's various businesses and work for ConneXions? What are they so afraid of getting out?

Who do you think advised Kevin & Ruby to take Chad's bed away for 7 month? Jodi Hildebrandt or the Hannas? I'm going with the former.

[rulatows000]

Jesus Christ, that's the woman they had counseling Chad?! She divulged sensitive information without her patient's permission and got him into trouble with his church. She also repeatedly threatened him that he had to take more sessions with her and accused him of having problems, addictions, and conditions that she never formally diagnosed him with. No wonder they chose her to be Chad's therapist. Was he already seeing her prior to Anasazi? I'm guessing she probably counsels him under the pretense of keeping everything he says between him and her, but then probably goes behind his back to report back to Ruby and Kevin so they can punish him for whatever he admits to or asks for help with. No wonder they always try to act like Chad has so many issues and problems, because this woman probably makes it all up and tries to demonize Chad to them. I'm really worried about Chad now if he was being blackmailed and manipulated by this woman, made to believe he has problems that he doesn't, and possibly got sent away because of stuff she said about him. How awful.

I went back to the vlogs in question, to refresh my memory on the timeline. I am starting to convince myself that there really could be some Scientology-like blackmail going on here. I wonder if Jodi Hildebrandt learned her lesson from the previous blackmail scheme gone awry, and built a business of "life coaches" completely unqualified to provide therapy, but also not bound by any laws or ethics like she is as a medical professional. The entire ConneXions business is set up so people without any legal responsibility for HIPPA confidentiality or malpractice can pretend to be psychologists and collect all the secrets of the Mormon community. I wonder if the Mormon church is still funding her projects? I hid my Ted Talk under a spoiler so I didn't clutter the thread.

1. Johnny and Paige Hanna, introduced Ruby to Jodi Hildebrandt's methods around January 2019. Both Johnny and Paige are life coaches with ConneXions, and on the board of directors. They have been helping Jodi Hildbrandt build the ConneXions business for 4 years, making up 50% of the business team.

https://www.connexionsclassroom.com/business-team

2. Around July 10th, 2020 Chad met Jodi Hildebrandt (virtually) while they were in Boston on the East coast road trip. (I wonder what the hell happened that they needed to call in a new therapist on vacation?) Chad said he liked Jodi because she is the only therapist ever to be straight with him and tell him how "messed up" he is. The first thing Jodi did is call Chad a liar when he said he was ready to work with her and make some changes. Chad had lost his phone for getting expelled from school and Jodi told him it would take months to years to get his phone back. (So that is where Ruby got that stellar parenting technique.) "Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!"

3. The second they returned from the East coast trip in July 2019, Chad was given a rushed midnight physical and shipped off to Anasazi. So I think it is fair to assume that it was a direct result of Jodi Hildebrandt's feedback. Although I can't find a direct connection between Jodi and Anasazi, besides the Mormon church/BYU.

4. October 2019, Chad came home from Anasazi.

5. November 2019, the Hannas brought Ruby and Kevin on vacation to the UK. Ruby started promoting their genealogy business, and then their real estate business Homie, which they used to sell their house.

https://www.graystokemedia.com/episode/40

6. January 2020, Ruby announced she will train to be a life coach at ConneXions ("Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!), although she had already spent a year following Jodi's teachings. Paige Hanna is one of her teachers, even though she has absolutely no credentials.
-------------------------------------
Ruby was parroting the ConneXions concepts long before she decided to become a "life coach" (e.g. honest, responsible, humble). So, my assumption is that the Hanna family started recruiting Ruby a couple of years ago to try and boost their company's reach and cash flow. ConneXions is a membership based "coaching" service , so bringing in high profile people would be critical marketing to boost membership. Getting Ruby to be one of the coaches would also help sign up otherwise uninterested nutty fans that just want a chance to talk with their idol. I can't believe I am saying this, but I think Ruby might have been taken advantage of. Not only is she forced to spill her innermost secrets these people on a weekly basis and shill their fake "therapy" business, they have her shilling all their other businesses (Homie/Genealogy).

The Hannas brought Jodi Hildebrandt into Chad's life, which ultimately got him sent away and treated worse than the family dog. The fact that Chad still claims to really like Jodi knowing she was responsible for guiding his mother in these horrific punishments is really terrifying. I don't know what information these people have on Chad, Ruby and the Frankes, but the fact that they hired the most notorious Hollywood "fixer" as their lawyer, is really making my mind go to some dark places. Perhaps they really are being blackmailed, just like Jodi's ex-client. Maybe Ruby was even forced to market the Hanna's various businesses and work for ConneXions? What are they so afraid of getting out?

Who do you think advised Kevin & Ruby to take Chad's bed away for 7 month? Jodi Hildebrandt or the Hannas? I'm going with the former.

Wow, this is just crazy. That criminal case against Jodi happened back in 2012 and Ruby and Kevin had to have known about that. Now she's training 'life coaches' who have no credentials and don't have to abide by state laws? I re-watched the Mom's Going Back to School vlog and knowing what I know now, it sounds so awful. All Chad said was, "I'm looking forward to working with you, too". And she went off on a tirade saying that it's bullshit and he doesn't want to work with her or change and that he's never getting his phone back. And what therapist tells you to your face that you're 'messed up'? I also skipped through a lot of their East Coast vlogs and couldn't detect anything awry with Chad. His phone was taken away prior to the trip, so I doubt they could've caught him doing something on the internet, unless he stole an electronic from someone in the family. Still, they went on that trip with Ruby's parents. I really don't see how a kid could manage to do something warranting an emergency therapy session when surrounded by two pairs of adults and all his siblings on a vacation where they were constantly out together, on the road, staying in small hotel rooms, etc. I am kind of wondering if Ruby's parents got involved and maybe made a huge deal about his attitude or something. Then Jodi blew it out of proportion and got him sent away for no reason. I'm really starting to think that Chad didn't do a single thing and had no idea why he was being sent away. From the criminal case it seems the guy went to her for marriage counseling and she warped it around and somehow turned into counseling for pornography addiction, which he didn't have. I wonder if they went to her for Chad's attitude and she completely turned it around into something else. From everything they've said, they act like it was a split second decision and they didn't even have time to process it. Just ran to ship him off ASAP, as if some big bombshell was dropped on them or something made them scared...

[boychik0830]

Has anyone seen this video lowes posted with 8 passengers? I'm digusted that they are in a video with lowes which I'm sure they did because the stuff was free from lowes for them. What parent takes care of their housing needs because the basic needs of their own children. Hopefully 8 passengers doesn't get any more sponsorship.


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[lmmomSD]

I went back to the vlogs in question, to refresh my memory on the timeline. I am starting to convince myself that there really could be some Scientology-like blackmail going on here. I wonder if Jodi Hildebrandt learned her lesson from the previous blackmail scheme gone awry, and built a business of "life coaches" completely unqualified to provide therapy, but also not bound by any laws or ethics like she is as a medical professional. The entire ConneXions business is set up so people without any legal responsibility for HIPPA confidentiality or malpractice can pretend to be psychologists and collect all the secrets of the Mormon community. I wonder if the Mormon church is still funding her projects? I hid my Ted Talk under a spoiler so I didn't clutter the thread.

1. Johnny and Paige Hanna, introduced Ruby to Jodi Hildebrandt's methods around January 2019. Both Johnny and Paige are life coaches with ConneXions, and on the board of directors. They have been helping Jodi Hildbrandt build the ConneXions business for 4 years, making up 50% of the business team.

https://www.connexionsclassroom.com/business-team

2. Around July 10th, 2020 Chad met Jodi Hildebrandt (virtually) while they were in Boston on the East coast road trip. (I wonder what the hell happened that they needed to call in a new therapist on vacation?) Chad said he liked Jodi because she is the only therapist ever to be straight with him and tell him how "messed up" he is. The first thing Jodi did is call Chad a liar when he said he was ready to work with her and make some changes. Chad had lost his phone for getting expelled from school and Jodi told him it would take months to years to get his phone back. (So that is where Ruby got that stellar parenting technique.) "Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!"

3. The second they returned from the East coast trip in July 2019, Chad was given a rushed midnight physical and shipped off to Anasazi. So I think it is fair to assume that it was a direct result of Jodi Hildebrandt's feedback. Although I can't find a direct connection between Jodi and Anasazi, besides the Mormon church/BYU.

4. October 2019, Chad came home from Anasazi.

5. November 2019, the Hannas brought Ruby and Kevin on vacation to the UK. Ruby started promoting their genealogy business, and then their real estate business Homie, which they used to sell their house.

https://www.graystokemedia.com/episode/40

6. January 2020, Ruby announced she will train to be a life coach at ConneXions ("Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!), although she had already spent a year following Jodi's teachings. Paige Hanna is one of her teachers, even though she has absolutely no credentials.
-------------------------------------
Ruby was parroting the ConneXions concepts long before she decided to become a "life coach" (e.g. honest, responsible, humble). So, my assumption is that the Hanna family started recruiting Ruby a couple of years ago to try and boost their company's reach and cash flow. ConneXions is a membership based "coaching" service , so bringing in high profile people would be critical marketing to boost membership. Getting Ruby to be one of the coaches would also help sign up otherwise uninterested nutty fans that just want a chance to talk with their idol. I can't believe I am saying this, but I think Ruby might have been taken advantage of. Not only is she forced to spill her innermost secrets these people on a weekly basis and shill their fake "therapy" business, they have her shilling all their other businesses (Homie/Genealogy).

The Hannas brought Jodi Hildebrandt into Chad's life, which ultimately got him sent away and treated worse than the family dog. The fact that Chad still claims to really like Jodi knowing she was responsible for guiding his mother in these horrific punishments is really terrifying. I don't know what information these people have on Chad, Ruby and the Frankes, but the fact that they hired the most notorious Hollywood "fixer" as their lawyer, is really making my mind go to some dark places. Perhaps they really are being blackmailed, just like Jodi's ex-client. Maybe Ruby was even forced to market the Hanna's various businesses and work for ConneXions? What are they so afraid of getting out?

Who do you think advised Kevin & Ruby to take Chad's bed away for 7 month? Jodi Hildebrandt or the Hannas? I'm going with the former.

Wow, this is just crazy. That criminal case against Jodi happened back in 2012 and Ruby and Kevin had to have known about that. Now she's training 'life coaches' who have no credentials and don't have to abide by state laws? I re-watched the Mom's Going Back to School vlog and knowing what I know now, it sounds so awful. All Chad said was, "I'm looking forward to working with you, too". And she went off on a tirade saying that it's bullshit and he doesn't want to work with her or change and that he's never getting his phone back. And what therapist tells you to your face that you're 'messed up'? I also skipped through a lot of their East Coast vlogs and couldn't detect anything awry with Chad. His phone was taken away prior to the trip, so I doubt they could've caught him doing something on the internet, unless he stole an electronic from someone in the family. Still, they went on that trip with Ruby's parents. I really don't see how a kid could manage to do something warranting an emergency therapy session when surrounded by two pairs of adults and all his siblings on a vacation where they were constantly out together, on the road, staying in small hotel rooms, etc. I am kind of wondering if Ruby's parents got involved and maybe made a huge deal about his attitude or something. Then Jodi blew it out of proportion and got him sent away for no reason. I'm really starting to think that Chad didn't do a single thing and had no idea why he was being sent away. From the criminal case it seems the guy went to her for marriage counseling and she warped it around and somehow turned into counseling for pornography addiction, which he didn't have. I wonder if they went to her for Chad's attitude and she completely turned it around into something else. From everything they've said, they act like it was a split second decision and they didn't even have time to process it. Just ran to ship him off ASAP, as if some big bombshell was dropped on them or something made them scared...

Ruby even said at the time that it was a "reflex decision, like pulling your kid out of traffic". So they obviously didn't put much thought into it (except for getting the deal-- discount for promoting the program)
This whole thing seemed fishy to me from the start.

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[Josette]

I went back to the vlogs in question, to refresh my memory on the timeline. I am starting to convince myself that there really could be some Scientology-like blackmail going on here. I wonder if Jodi Hildebrandt learned her lesson from the previous blackmail scheme gone awry, and built a business of "life coaches" completely unqualified to provide therapy, but also not bound by any laws or ethics like she is as a medical professional. The entire ConneXions business is set up so people without any legal responsibility for HIPPA confidentiality or malpractice can pretend to be psychologists and collect all the secrets of the Mormon community. I wonder if the Mormon church is still funding her projects? I hid my Ted Talk under a spoiler so I didn't clutter the thread.

1. Johnny and Paige Hanna, introduced Ruby to Jodi Hildebrandt's methods around January 2019. Both Johnny and Paige are life coaches with ConneXions, and on the board of directors. They have been helping Jodi Hildbrandt build the ConneXions business for 4 years, making up 50% of the business team.

https://www.connexionsclassroom.com/business-team

2. Around July 10th, 2020 Chad met Jodi Hildebrandt (virtually) while they were in Boston on the East coast road trip. (I wonder what the hell happened that they needed to call in a new therapist on vacation?) Chad said he liked Jodi because she is the only therapist ever to be straight with him and tell him how "messed up" he is. The first thing Jodi did is call Chad a liar when he said he was ready to work with her and make some changes. Chad had lost his phone for getting expelled from school and Jodi told him it would take months to years to get his phone back. (So that is where Ruby got that stellar parenting technique.) "Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!"

3. The second they returned from the East coast trip in July 2019, Chad was given a rushed midnight physical and shipped off to Anasazi. So I think it is fair to assume that it was a direct result of Jodi Hildebrandt's feedback. Although I can't find a direct connection between Jodi and Anasazi, besides the Mormon church/BYU.

4. October 2019, Chad came home from Anasazi.

5. November 2019, the Hannas brought Ruby and Kevin on vacation to the UK. Ruby started promoting their genealogy business, and then their real estate business Homie, which they used to sell their house.

https://www.graystokemedia.com/episode/40

6. January 2020, Ruby announced she will train to be a life coach at ConneXions ("Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!), although she had already spent a year following Jodi's teachings. Paige Hanna is one of her teachers, even though she has absolutely no credentials.
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Ruby was parroting the ConneXions concepts long before she decided to become a "life coach" (e.g. honest, responsible, humble). So, my assumption is that the Hanna family started recruiting Ruby a couple of years ago to try and boost their company's reach and cash flow. ConneXions is a membership based "coaching" service , so bringing in high profile people would be critical marketing to boost membership. Getting Ruby to be one of the coaches would also help sign up otherwise uninterested nutty fans that just want a chance to talk with their idol. I can't believe I am saying this, but I think Ruby might have been taken advantage of. Not only is she forced to spill her innermost secrets these people on a weekly basis and shill their fake "therapy" business, they have her shilling all their other businesses (Homie/Genealogy).

The Hannas brought Jodi Hildebrandt into Chad's life, which ultimately got him sent away and treated worse than the family dog. The fact that Chad still claims to really like Jodi knowing she was responsible for guiding his mother in these horrific punishments is really terrifying. I don't know what information these people have on Chad, Ruby and the Frankes, but the fact that they hired the most notorious Hollywood "fixer" as their lawyer, is really making my mind go to some dark places. Perhaps they really are being blackmailed, just like Jodi's ex-client. Maybe Ruby was even forced to market the Hanna's various businesses and work for ConneXions? What are they so afraid of getting out?

Who do you think advised Kevin & Ruby to take Chad's bed away for 7 month? Jodi Hildebrandt or the Hannas? I'm going with the former.

Wow, this is just crazy. That criminal case against Jodi happened back in 2012 and Ruby and Kevin had to have known about that. Now she's training 'life coaches' who have no credentials and don't have to abide by state laws? I re-watched the Mom's Going Back to School vlog and knowing what I know now, it sounds so awful. All Chad said was, "I'm looking forward to working with you, too". And she went off on a tirade saying that it's bullshit and he doesn't want to work with her or change and that he's never getting his phone back. And what therapist tells you to your face that you're 'messed up'? I also skipped through a lot of their East Coast vlogs and couldn't detect anything awry with Chad. His phone was taken away prior to the trip, so I doubt they could've caught him doing something on the internet, unless he stole an electronic from someone in the family. Still, they went on that trip with Ruby's parents. I really don't see how a kid could manage to do something warranting an emergency therapy session when surrounded by two pairs of adults and all his siblings on a vacation where they were constantly out together, on the road, staying in small hotel rooms, etc. I am kind of wondering if Ruby's parents got involved and maybe made a huge deal about his attitude or something. Then Jodi blew it out of proportion and got him sent away for no reason. I'm really starting to think that Chad didn't do a single thing and had no idea why he was being sent away. From the criminal case it seems the guy went to her for marriage counseling and she warped it around and somehow turned into counseling for pornography addiction, which he didn't have. I wonder if they went to her for Chad's attitude and she completely turned it around into something else. From everything they've said, they act like it was a split second decision and they didn't even have time to process it. Just ran to ship him off ASAP, as if some big bombshell was dropped on them or something made them scared...

I suspect Chad got caught doing a perfectly normal teenage thing, like masturbating and Jodi convinced Ruby & Kevin that he was some sort of deviant because of that and they sent him away. Mormons are taught that pre-martial sex of any kind, including masturbation, violates their rules about chastity and that it's immoral.


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 7?lang=eng

[Josette]

Has anyone seen this video lowes posted with 8 passengers? I'm digusted that they are in a video with lowes which I'm sure they did because the stuff was free from lowes for them. What parent takes care of their housing needs because the basic needs of their own children. Hopefully 8 passengers doesn't get any more sponsorship.


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Not defending them, but the video is from April, 2018 before everything started to implode and Ruby and Kevin were exposed as being toxic parents. I really doubt Lowe's would give them any sponsorships nowadays.

[boychik0830]

Has anyone seen this video lowes posted with 8 passengers? I'm digusted that they are in a video with lowes which I'm sure they did because the stuff was free from lowes for them. What parent takes care of their housing needs because the basic needs of their own children. Hopefully 8 passengers doesn't get any more sponsorship.


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Not defending them, but the video is from April, 2018 before everything started to implode and Ruby and Kevin were exposed as being toxic parents. I really doubt Lowe's would give them any sponsorships nowadays.

I'm sure they were doing stuff back then but we weren't aware of it.

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[Josette]

Has anyone seen this video lowes posted with 8 passengers? I'm digusted that they are in a video with lowes which I'm sure they did because the stuff was free from lowes for them. What parent takes care of their housing needs because the basic needs of their own children. Hopefully 8 passengers doesn't get any more sponsorship.


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Not defending them, but the video is from April, 2018 before everything started to implode and Ruby and Kevin were exposed as being toxic parents. I really doubt Lowe's would give them any sponsorships nowadays.

I'm sure they were doing stuff back then but we weren't aware of it.

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Oh, I have no doubts they were because I don't believe for a minute that this was something that happened overnight, but if we were unaware of their toxicity, I think it's a fair assumption that Lowe's was too.

[boychik0830]

Not defending them, but the video is from April, 2018 before everything started to implode and Ruby and Kevin were exposed as being toxic parents. I really doubt Lowe's would give them any sponsorships nowadays.

I'm sure they were doing stuff back then but we weren't aware of it.

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Oh, I have no doubts they were because I don't believe for a minute that this was something that happened overnight, but if we were unaware of their toxicity, I think it's a fair assumption that Lowe's was too.

I'm sure lowes wouldn't be getting involved with them if they knew what the family was like.

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[imoverit]

You know it is great "school" when the name is misspelled (ConneXions) AND the current students are the ones giving the lessons. Ruby is the perfect parenting coach; CPS told her so during the recent abuse investigation!

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Did anyone else notice that the only lesson to date is still, identifying truth vs. distortion? I could teach the class just from watching her vlogs. "The truth is", locals view this nonsense as the new MLM/pyramid scheme. I don't think that post of mine ever went through. Per a series of YT comments, I learned that after the short "life coach" course, the students then become employees that are also forced to pay for/attend weekly counseling sessions (sex and marriage), and recruit their own students to teach/fleece. Ruby appears to be recruited & taught by that genealogy woman Paige, who brought R&K to the UK.

Based on the criminal case against owner Jodi Hildebrandt (Chad's therapist), it almost sounds like how Scientologists control/blackmail their members through "auditing". Kevin better watch out, that woman almost lost her medical license divulging one of her employee-patient's private info, getting the husband booted from both BYU and the Mormon church. All for the low price of $2000 per month. Not to mention that local in the YT comments said that the week long training session in SD is $13k, and they will set you up with another MLM to earn the money.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php? ... type=CMSID

Jesus Christ, that's the woman they had counseling Chad?! She divulged sensitive information without her patient's permission and got him into trouble with his church. She also repeatedly threatened him that he had to take more sessions with her and accused him of having problems, addictions, and conditions that she never formally diagnosed him with. No wonder they chose her to be Chad's therapist. Was he already seeing her prior to Anasazi? I'm guessing she probably counsels him under the pretense of keeping everything he says between him and her, but then probably goes behind his back to report back to Ruby and Kevin so they can punish him for whatever he admits to or asks for help with. No wonder they always try to act like Chad has so many issues and problems, because this woman probably makes it all up and tries to demonize Chad to them. I'm really worried about Chad now if he was being blackmailed and manipulated by this woman, made to believe he has problems that he doesn't, and possibly got sent away because of stuff she said about him. How awful.

I went back to the vlogs in question, to refresh my memory on the timeline. I am starting to convince myself that there really could be some Scientology-like blackmail going on here. I wonder if Jodi Hildebrandt learned her lesson from the previous blackmail scheme gone awry, and built a business of "life coaches" completely unqualified to provide therapy, but also not bound by any laws or ethics like she is as a medical professional. The entire ConneXions business is set up so people without any legal responsibility for HIPPA confidentiality or malpractice can pretend to be psychologists and collect all the secrets of the Mormon community. I wonder if the Mormon church is still funding her projects? I hid my Ted Talk under a spoiler so I didn't clutter the thread.

1. Johnny and Paige Hanna, introduced Ruby to Jodi Hildebrandt's methods around January 2019. Both Johnny and Paige are life coaches with ConneXions, and on the board of directors. They have been helping Jodi Hildbrandt build the ConneXions business for 4 years, making up 50% of the business team.

https://www.connexionsclassroom.com/business-team

2. Around July 10th, 2020 Chad met Jodi Hildebrandt (virtually) while they were in Boston on the East coast road trip. (I wonder what the hell happened that they needed to call in a new therapist on vacation?) Chad said he liked Jodi because she is the only therapist ever to be straight with him and tell him how "messed up" he is. The first thing Jodi did is call Chad a liar when he said he was ready to work with her and make some changes. Chad had lost his phone for getting expelled from school and Jodi told him it would take months to years to get his phone back. (So that is where Ruby got that stellar parenting technique.) "Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!"

3. The second they returned from the East coast trip in July 2019, Chad was given a rushed midnight physical and shipped off to Anasazi. So I think it is fair to assume that it was a direct result of Jodi Hildebrandt's feedback. Although I can't find a direct connection between Jodi and Anasazi, besides the Mormon church/BYU.

4. October 2019, Chad came home from Anasazi.

5. November 2019, the Hannas brought Ruby and Kevin on vacation to the UK. Ruby started promoting their genealogy business, and then their real estate business Homie, which they used to sell their house.

https://www.graystokemedia.com/episode/40

6. January 2020, Ruby announced she will train to be a life coach at ConneXions ("Mom's Going BACK to SCHOOL!), although she had already spent a year following Jodi's teachings. Paige Hanna is one of her teachers, even though she has absolutely no credentials.
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Ruby was parroting the ConneXions concepts long before she decided to become a "life coach" (e.g. honest, responsible, humble). So, my assumption is that the Hanna family started recruiting Ruby a couple of years ago to try and boost their company's reach and cash flow. ConneXions is a membership based "coaching" service , so bringing in high profile people would be critical marketing to boost membership. Getting Ruby to be one of the coaches would also help sign up otherwise uninterested nutty fans that just want a chance to talk with their idol. I can't believe I am saying this, but I think Ruby might have been taken advantage of. Not only is she forced to spill her innermost secrets these people on a weekly basis and shill their fake "therapy" business, they have her shilling all their other businesses (Homie/Genealogy).

The Hannas brought Jodi Hildebrandt into Chad's life, which ultimately got him sent away and treated worse than the family dog. The fact that Chad still claims to really like Jodi knowing she was responsible for guiding his mother in these horrific punishments is really terrifying. I don't know what information these people have on Chad, Ruby and the Frankes, but the fact that they hired the most notorious Hollywood "fixer" as their lawyer, is really making my mind go to some dark places. Perhaps they really are being blackmailed, just like Jodi's ex-client. Maybe Ruby was even forced to market the Hanna's various businesses and work for ConneXions? What are they so afraid of getting out?

This makes me feel sick. I mean we already knew this life coach business was a sham and that whoever Chad's therapists/counselors are can hardly be qualified based on what Ruby and Kevin have claimed they've recommended. The fact that Ruby, Kevin, and everyone else in their families have been too stupid not to realize they shouldn't be involved in any of this is shocking and I completely blame the adults involved for the entire thing. Maybe Ruby was taken advantage of but at the end of the day she made the choice to go along with it all, she wasn't in a vulnerable position, she chose this. And she sounds perfectly happy to take advantage of other, actually vulnerable people, because her whole life is a desperate attempt to find purpose and attention.

What Ruby and Kevin have done to Chad by setting him up with fake therapists who just tell him what a bad kid he is and then sending him to a messed up camp for delinquent kids is going to have ruined him irreparably, he's going to have so much shit to work through for the rest of his life on top of what he and his siblings already have. Again, it is sickening to me that in this giant extended family that they have, not a single adult seems to have the courage to put these two sad excuses of parents in their place and protect the kids. At least for Ruby's side, probably because they're all so dysfunctional they can't even see it. Don't know what the Franke side's excuse is.

[lmmomSD]

Who do you think advised Kevin & Ruby to take Chad's bed away for 7 month? Jodi Hildebrandt or the Hannas? I'm going with the former.

Wow, this is just crazy. That criminal case against Jodi happened back in 2012 and Ruby and Kevin had to have known about that. Now she's training 'life coaches' who have no credentials and don't have to abide by state laws? I re-watched the Mom's Going Back to School vlog and knowing what I know now, it sounds so awful. All Chad said was, "I'm looking forward to working with you, too". And she went off on a tirade saying that it's bullshit and he doesn't want to work with her or change and that he's never getting his phone back. And what therapist tells you to your face that you're 'messed up'? I also skipped through a lot of their East Coast vlogs and couldn't detect anything awry with Chad. His phone was taken away prior to the trip, so I doubt they could've caught him doing something on the internet, unless he stole an electronic from someone in the family. Still, they went on that trip with Ruby's parents. I really don't see how a kid could manage to do something warranting an emergency therapy session when surrounded by two pairs of adults and all his siblings on a vacation where they were constantly out together, on the road, staying in small hotel rooms, etc. I am kind of wondering if Ruby's parents got involved and maybe made a huge deal about his attitude or something. Then Jodi blew it out of proportion and got him sent away for no reason. I'm really starting to think that Chad didn't do a single thing and had no idea why he was being sent away. From the criminal case it seems the guy went to her for marriage counseling and she warped it around and somehow turned into counseling for pornography addiction, which he didn't have. I wonder if they went to her for Chad's attitude and she completely turned it around into something else. From everything they've said, they act like it was a split second decision and they didn't even have time to process it. Just ran to ship him off ASAP, as if some big bombshell was dropped on them or something made them scared...

I suspect Chad got caught doing a perfectly normal teenage thing, like masturbating and Jodi convinced Ruby & Kevin that he was some sort of deviant because of that and they sent him away. Mormons are taught that pre-martial sex of any kind, including masturbation, violates their rules about chastity and that it's immoral.


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 7?lang=eng

That is exactly what I thought, especially when you include removing his bedroom and bathroom doors. I hate to speculate on that, but it's a perfectly normal thing for a teenaged boy to do.

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