Greedner Quad Squad: Fake as Flock (part 16)

[Snarkadoodle Doo]

Okay this is trite and crappy of me but it annoys me. Who puts brown boots with black dresses? The weather is quite nice today and there is no snow on the ground. Some nice black Mary Janes would have been adorable with those outfits today. The constant boots are ridiculous.


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I mean, if the HAVE to have five million pairs of boots and no sensible shoes at all, why did they ALL have to be brown? Why couldn't at least one pair of boots be black to at least match the black clothing or other colors that match black better? It's crazy how she's so fixated on creating a perfect, fake image of her family that this is what she skimps out on.

[Spruce]

I dunno...I could see this continuing for several years. If not the senegence stuff, it will be something else. It wouldn't matter what she chose to sell or what company she repped, she has followers and they are pretty passionate. It's not just the parents of multiples, there are online stars in many areas including tech, speciality subjects, organizing, lifestyle, cooking, etc. The reality is just about anyone can, with some minimal equipment and a little knowledge, put themselves out there on the Interwebs and be a star of their own little vlogs on whatever topic they like and with time it could catch on and build an audience, if that's something someone really wants to do.

[Laughter6789]

Thanks for taking time to explain the Lipshit "business" model, Laughter.

It seems, then, that your recruits also become your competition. So since the lonely ladies that buy Lipshit want Assley's attention, wouldn't they be more inclined to buy product from her? And not her downline? And if her downline isn't able to sell product then she doesn't get a commission off of them. I know things have panned out thus far for Trashley, but market saturation can't be too far away, can it?

Your recruits don't become your competition because you make so much more money off of them than you do just by selling the product yourself so you want your recruits to sell a lot. Once you get to the level that Trashley is at, you have so many people under you that you will make a lot of money off of your team no matter what. She has over 2000 people on her team. Crown Princesses and above pretty much harass their downlines to order at least 300pv ($600) a month because they get the highest commissions when each of their downlines place a monthly order of at least that amount per month. It's all about recruiting and convincing your team to sell, sell, sell so that you can sit back and collect massive checks each month.

And yes, the market is already becoming saturated which hurts the lower level ladies becasue it's harder for them to sell the products that they are told to order and stockpile each month but it only helps the higher up distributors becasue the more people that join, the more they make. There are so many distributors that are just sitting on thousands of dollars worth of products because their uplines tell them that they have to place large orders every month and then sell from their stock. The amount of greed that the higher up girls have is disgusting. They don't care if their downlines go into debt, they even encourage them to take out lines of credit to order mass quantities of product, just to ensure that they themselves get the highest commsions possible. It's disgusting.

[B4bfmmom]

Perhaps next she should sell Usborne books. If only she would realize the money she could make OFF HER CHILDREN but actually TEACH THEM AT THE SAME TIME! Think of it. Her sitting down with them, making them sit and listen, asking them questions about the stories, asking them to count and name colors CORRECTLY - which would mean she’d have to SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THEIR ANSWERS - CORRECTING THEM WHEN THEY ARE WRONG, not just ignoring and talking over them. She could SHOW HER PURCHASERS how IMPORTANT READING TO YOUR KIDS IS AND HOW IT HELPS THEIR VOCABULARY AND MINDS GROW...making them smart! What a funny idea! Do it, blonde wonder, do it! Maybe she would learn as well! Now that...her actually teaching her daughters being smart means SO MUCH MORE than being so beautiful...might be worth watching.


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[Snarkadoodle Doo]

So I like lipsense. There. I said it out loud. Lol.

I would try it if I could get it at 1/3 the price or less, but I refuse to pay $25 for lipstick, no matter what it is. I'm into lip goo that will stay on for 16+ hrs or more, but within reason price-wise. I'll have to look on ebay and other places to see if someone is trying to get rid of their stock. I won't purchase from anyone in the Greedner line though.

Someone recruited A$$wipe into senegence, so that person really gets the credit I suppose. It's just built-in success with MLM if you have thousands of followers like the A$$wipe family because then you're not bothering your family and friends to buy from you and with notoriety all these strangers suddenly want to be in your life and come running with their wallets open. A$$wipe didn't need to build her business, the business built itself up around her as a result of the whole quad thing, YouTube, Rattled, etc. All she had to do was create a separate Facebook page and then talk about what she was wearing in her vlogs. I don't have a problem with any of the MLM products, btw. I even used a couple of the Amway cleaning products back in the 1980s and they were really good (albeit expensive). I just refuse to buy overpriced products now and I have no problem saying "no" in my cranky middleage years.

A saturated market is a reality. Look at the Rodan + Fields skin care products. Fully saturated, and all over Facebook. I actually saw Dr. Fields way back in 1990-ish at UCSF Med Center when my dentist sent me to the derm clinic to have a spot under my tongue looked at. This is long before she ever developed the billion $ skincare line sold in infomercials and through MLM.

Ugh. I get so angry when I write a huge long post and the site crashes before I post it and I lose everything. It happens to me all the time, it's so frustrating. Anyhow....

Interestingly, Leah from Teen Mom 2 also sells lipsense. During the season finale she ranked to princess I think. In the past I have often considered how much better than Ashley she would do if someone actually sent her a message and told her that she should be sharing her products with her followers on social media to try and sell product and build a downline. She has MILLIONS of followers on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. More followers than Ashley could ever hope for. If she actually took advantage of her notoriety then she would pass her so quickly and Ashley would never stand a chance catching up. For the life of me I cannot figure out why her friend that recruited her is not encouraging her to do that. They showed her recruiting her on the show so it would have been the perfect opportunity to start promoting the business opportunity the second that show aired and people knew what she was doing. And yes. I am that old lady who watches "reality" shows on MTV, lol.

[Snarkadoodle Doo]

I have noticed within all of the MLM sellers religion plays a big part in the marketing. It's like they get a script.

You're right it is a script. Same script from back in the Amway days (circa 1980+). I know because I got roped into one of the presentations and sat through it around 1982. MLM has done very well in the church circles, and in the heartland states. It's the same message repackaged and resold. There's really nothing new with it. Mary Kay, same message. Avon, same message. "Be your own boss," "take charge of your financial future," "grow your own successful and profitable business..."

I've noticed that with some friends selling essential oils. A lot of it feels very out there and not science based but then the seller lays it on real thick about taking charge of your families health etc. Many families are 1 income families...which means they have little or no health insurance which has made home birth and home remedies are really popular. So instead of taking charge of your fiancial future it's take charge of your families health! Your body was designed to heal itself etc. I keep getting invited to events to have my energy tested by a trained professional at a family memeber's church and then I'll be told which oils I need.

You know who actually sells essential oils? That crazy mom Neysa from "Epik Brandon Family". The one who we chatted about months ago after she posted that video about permissive parenting and why she doesn't potty train her kids. The one whom we spoke about and then within DAYS Assface made a video about how SHE uses permissive parenting and the "why we don't potty train our kids" approach? Have you watched any of those videos lately? She's a whack job and a half!

[BlahBlahBlah]

Why are they calling Indie Mae now? How confusing for the poor girl. She’s been Pie and now Mae?

[Night lady]

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[BumblebeeBubbles]

Why are they calling Indie Mae now? How confusing for the poor girl. She’s been Pie and now Mae?

Damn it. If you’re going to change what you call her, try the name you gave her. Evangeline is long - I get it. But Indie? Come on now. She is not a Mae.


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[Laughter6789]

Arrrggghhhhh!!!!! I just typed out this long ass post and poof, it disappeared!!! I'll give you all the shot version of what I wanted to tell you....

I want to explain how it is that I ended up on Trashley's LipSense team. When I was first introduced to LipSense around the same time that Trashley began selling it, I already despised the Greedners. I really liked the product and months later I decided I wanted to sell it since I love makeup and lipstick and I thought it'd be a great way to meet new people, make some extra money and have fun. I could invite women over for wine and snacks while playing with makeup. Sounded great! The only person I knew that sold it was my friends coworker, so I signed up under her. I never in a million years would have thought this tattoo artist rocker chick would be on Trashley's team. Not. In. A. Million. Years.

So I get all signed up and log into my back office and much to my surprise, it lists Assface as my second upline! I immediately call tattoo artist rocker chick as I know this can't be right. This girl would definately not follow a YouTube vlogger family, she hates kids lol. Well, she tells me tang she came across a video on Facebook one day of a woman doing a demo for LipSense and since she didn't know anyone that sold it, she decided to just sign up under the woman in the video. That woman was Trashley.

I was so appalled. The last person's team that I wanted to be on was Assface's. What are the odds that I'd end up on the team of this god awful woman that I despised with a passion?! We live no where near Utah and the girl I signed up under was definately not someone if ever think in a million years to be on Trash's team, hence the reason I did t think to check first. I called SeneGence right away to see if I could switch teams but they wouldn't allow me to. I seriously contemplated not going forward with selling LipSense as I didn't want any part of contributing to their gluttonous lifestyle but I decided to put that out of my mind and do what I had set out to do. Make some extra money and have fun playing with makeup.

All was great for a while but I then began to see the major flaws with this company. Major flaws! And the higher up girls are just awful, greedy, selfish bitches and the product quality now sucks. There are so many things wrong with this whole SeneGence scheme, I don't even have the time to go into it all but it's a shit show, plain and simple.

I do have a ton of products leftover that I sell when I can to recoup some money and I do still have a team under me which requires me to place orders here and there to get my team commissions but they all know that I am not very active anymore.

So yeah, I just felt the need to explain how I ended up on her team so you all didn't think it was something I chose. I'd never choose to be a part of anything having to do with those fuckers!

[fudgenuts]

Hasn't anyone noticed during the madness over the holidays the little girl introduced to Indie as another Indie? She passed it of as being something neat and cool but I will wager she didn't want to "share" the name with anyone hence the sudden change to Mae.

[alannah62]

Thanks 6789 for your lipsense experience and retyping it.very interesting. I used to see several people trying to sell the makeup on the fb page that my neighborhood has. Not so much any more, not sure if that means it's on the downhill in my area or those girls quit.

I've never sold anything from MLM orgs. I've bought a bunch from pampered chef but not gone crazy. And they do have good stuff like those white scrappers and different sized spatulas which last forever. Im not sure if pc is a mlm?

I would feel better selling something that I didn't have to stockpile and worry about getting stuck with inventory.

After being the cookie Mom for gs troop for 5 years I don't want to be in charge of selling a damn thing. Lol.
Happy New Year east coast.

[CherryBaby]

As you get older, you tend to just say no to all MLM invitations that come your way. I think a lot of us have dipped our toe in the water either to be nice to a friend or because we get desperate to help bring in a little extra while we stay home with the kids. Everything is just so, so expensive, and we want our kids to have wonderful childhoods.

When these young moms see the kind of money Trash brings in, the illusion tricks them. Of course they want some of that for their families. There is no shame in that at all. The problem is that they are not greedy, dishonest and ruthless (and would never exploit
their children,) so they immediately see that they can't have the success A$$ has. By then, they have lost a few hundred or a few thousand dollars, but not luckily not their life's savings, so they just blame themselves and quit Senegence. A$$ knows that this story plays out over and over and over and that she profits handsomely from the naivete.

If she were a Bernie Madoff type that scammed people out of their life's savings, she would end up in prison. But she definitely knows that what she is doing is shady as hell. I agree that it can't continue forever, but it might work for awhile longer. Bison has no intention of getting a job, so it better.

And Laughter, your story is super interesting. Thanks for sharing it!

[Laughter6789]

Thanks 6789 for your lipsense experience and retyping it.very interesting. I used to see several people trying to sell the makeup on the fb page that my neighborhood has. Not so much any more, not sure if that means it's on the downhill in my area or those girls quit.

I've never sold anything from MLM orgs. I've bought a bunch from pampered chef but not gone crazy. And they do have good stuff like those white scrappers and different sized spatulas which last forever. Im not sure if pc is a mlm?

I would feel better selling something that I didn't have to stockpile and worry about getting stuck with inventory.

After being the cookie Mom for gs troop for 5 years I don't want to be in charge of selling a damn thing. Lol.
Happy New Year east coast.

You're welcome! I just felt I needed to share how I ended up on her team. It was definately not by choice and it goes to show just how far Trashley's reach is. Becasue of her popularity with the company and on social media, my upline randomly stumbled upon her and due to that, she gained her as a team member, along with myself, my downlines, their downlines,etc. Between myself and my direct upline and our downlines, Ashley gained about 15 team members. Just goes to show how quickly and easily her team grew/grows, all becasue of her quads and their social media and YouTube reach. How many other women on her team got there by the same fluke that I did? A lot, I'm sure.

[Stellaboo]

Did anyone notice that yesterday when Indie and Esme were playing on the new jumper that neither one of them knew the names of the colors? They kept pointing and asking which was which color. And Indie misidentified the color blue.


And they were the most basic of colors - red, blue, green, and yellow.
Seriously, how can someone be OK with their 3 year olds not knowing their colors?
It's ridiculously sad!

[Premmie101]

I follOw Leah from Teen Mom on instagram and I have seen her promoting lipshit on her page but not for a while. She used to have the girls help her and all. I’m wondering if she got out of it. I’ve seen people ask her on live feeds but I haven’t seen an answer

[Sunnyunicorn]

There are MANY other liquid lipsticks that last just as long as Lipshit and don't need a special chemical remover. If Lipshit was actually any good then it would be sold at Sephora and the insane founder would be able to afford even more bad plastic surgery. There's many reasons why MLMs are total (and unethical) scams, and one of them is that their products are NEVER as good as they claim to be- or else they wouldn't need to be sold in MLM form. If any of you ladies need a good, long lasting lipstick check out Anastasia Beverly Hills, Jeffree Star, Kat Von D, hell I'd buy Kylie Jenner stuff before I ever gave a dime to Trashley!

[SezziePieBarleyEvers]

I think their names are cute but I think their middle names are actually better & more grown up sounding.
Mae, Jane, Elizabeth and Faith. Least if the girls wanna use a different name as they get older they have good ones.

[Sodalicious]

Am I the only one who hadn’t heard of lipshit before Trash started selling it?

And I watch tons of beauty vloggers and none have ever mentioned it.


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[Snarky Lady]

HAPPY NEW YEAR