Tania Licciardo-Toivola: Beans, fake routines and sleeping like sardines. | Part 4

[Damom1]

Just yesterday, I was sitting at my dinner table, eating lasagna, when I thought to myself, "you know what this needs? Some beans!" I mean, nothing says lasagna like beans! Am I right? -_-

[Emily81]

Is Licciardo their real name? How come Cleopatra doesn't know how to pronounce it?

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Im not sure Emily where Licciardo comes from-I’m sure Paul’s surname is Smith? I think Toivola isTainas family name. Sbody here will be able to tell you for sure.
Maybe mispronouncing names is a family trait,as Taina calls Nefertiti ‘NeFREtiti’

Licciardo is from Marie Licciardo, prophetess. She adopted Paul, making him Paul Licciardo-Smith but the family has since changed their name legally, it appears, to Licciardo-Toivola, adding Tainas family name.

That's weird because usually, after adoption, the birth name is replaced with the new family's name.



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[Emily81]

Just yesterday, I was sitting at my dinner table, eating lasagna, when I thought to myself, "you know what this needs? Some beans!" I mean, nothing says lasagna like beans! Am I right? -_-

I miss lasagna so much, was my favourite dish! I haven't eaten meat for almost 4 years but I refuse to try a vegan lasagna. I just can't!

The combination of the ingredients of her lasagna is disgusting.

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[sin]

just watched snippets of the vegan lasagna video
the boys look so uncomfortable and sound so rehearsed it's like they're being held at gun point and god forbid if they say something other than the rehearsed bits :/

[sin]

also isn't Romeo way too short for his age??

[Celloanna]

I wanted to show you a video of Jerusalem from his work, where he is called Jerusalem licciardo SMITH



so this is kind of weird actually. I mean the employer will definitely know and post his right name ..

to me they talk and act unnaturally. are they ever going to move to Australia or is it just a trick to keep the viewers watching? I stopped watching her video as it got bored and kind of strange. I liked the first videos which showed a more natural behavior than now and also a routine which can be normal for homeschooled children. But nevertheless no one goes to fitness at 3 am in the night like Cleopatra. but every view counts and every view, even just to talk about them in a negative way, gives her money.

They should start working a normal job and be a role model for their children instead of living from the church and from youtube.
asking myself also what Leonardo has reached with youtube and what he is doing with his life. he has never learnt that its normal to go to your working place everyday.

and also as a professional musician (cellist from Berlin ) I can say, that none of them is ever going to be successfull with music. to play one instrument in this kind of quality, you need hours of practice (8 hours a day minimum). none of the people I know, who do it professionally, can play all of these instruments in a high quality. and I am sorry to say that, but they are just normal average children, who can play something on their instrument but not professionally as taina always claims.
Cleopatra is way too old for this business now. When you are 18, you should be in music university and compete with others. I know in Helsinki is a very good school for music, the Sibelius academy. this would be the right place for a Finnish musician. but this is just taina, telling everyone that her children can do everything better without knowing anything about the world. and also if cleopatra ever wanted to be a pianist.. playing more than an octave is normal and totally required. all the pieces you play, which are more complex, afford more than an octave. therefor its nothing special if you can do this. just wanted to clarify that topic.

nevertheless every child is something special to their parent and always the most talented and precious person in the world.i won't disrespect that, but please Taina look up on youtube and watch all these musical talents who have been practicing their whole life before telling the world that playing 10 instruments is a wonder. in this kind of level, everyone could play 10 instruments.

they kind of live in their bubble without any disturbances. somehow I feel that Leonardo is a disturbance for her. she never mentions him anymore. and I feel sad that he has to live on his own without the help of his parents. they must for sure have enough money to support him while studying. when you can buy 2 Chanel glasses for yourself, you should be able to help out your own son with his education.

I hope you don't get me wrong. I am always wondering why people would point out their life in this kind of way and use their children to make money..

[Dru55]

just watched snippets of the vegan lasagna video
the boys look so uncomfortable and sound so rehearsed it's like they're being held at gun point and god forbid if they say something other than the rehearsed bits :/

All those kids need a life outside the family. They need to go to school or need a job. Get an education, earn some real money. Give back to society. The money that family has taken in benefits is obscene considering what they haven't given back in terms of helping others etc. All that designer stuff. I phones. Etc. Etc. Taina is really clutching at straws here with these really awful recipes. And pretending to have nearly 900k followers. No way. She is buying them so she can reach a million. Not that many people look at her videos. And her kids can quite easily boost the viewing numbers by spending all day clicking on her vlogs. However I do miss seeing Aphrodite. She is a charmer.

[annanever]

Everytime the Liccardo-Toivolas eat that “lasagna” an italian dies. It was very painfull for me to watch the video as I’m a fierce italian who know how real LASAGNE (not lasagna) has to be made!


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[Emily81]

just watched snippets of the vegan lasagna video
the boys look so uncomfortable and sound so rehearsed it's like they're being held at gun point and god forbid if they say something other than the rehearsed bits :/

All those kids need a life outside the family. They need to go to school or need a job. Get an education, earn some real money. Give back to society. The money that family has taken in benefits is obscene considering what they haven't given back in terms of helping others etc. All that designer stuff. I phones. Etc. Etc. Taina is really clutching at straws here with these really awful recipes. And pretending to have nearly 900k followers. No way. She is buying them so she can reach a million. Not that many people look at her videos. And her kids can quite easily boost the viewing numbers by spending all day clicking on her vlogs. However I do miss seeing Aphrodite. She is a charmer.

If you watch the vlog using the same IP from where the videos was uploaded, it will not count as view.
Same if you watch a video multiple times, you will find that the count will add up at first, but after some time it will stop and the views number decreases.


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[Emily81]

Everytime the Liccardo-Toivolas eat that “lasagna” an italian dies. It was very painfull for me to watch the video as I’m a fierce italian who know how real LASAGNE (not lasagna) has to be made!


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[annanever]

Everytime the Liccardo-Toivolas eat that “lasagna” an italian dies. It was very painfull for me to watch the video as I’m a fierce italian who know how real LASAGNE (not lasagna) has to be made!


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[Damom1]

I wanted to show you a video of Jerusalem from his work, where he is called Jerusalem licciardo SMITH



so this is kind of weird actually. I mean the employer will definitely know and post his right name ..

to me they talk and act unnaturally. are they ever going to move to Australia or is it just a trick to keep the viewers watching? I stopped watching her video as it got bored and kind of strange. I liked the first videos which showed a more natural behavior than now and also a routine which can be normal for homeschooled children. But nevertheless no one goes to fitness at 3 am in the night like Cleopatra. but every view counts and every view, even just to talk about them in a negative way, gives her money.

They should start working a normal job and be a role model for their children instead of living from the church and from youtube.
asking myself also what Leonardo has reached with youtube and what he is doing with his life. he has never learnt that its normal to go to your working place everyday.

and also as a professional musician (cellist from Berlin ) I can say, that none of them is ever going to be successfull with music. to play one instrument in this kind of quality, you need hours of practice (8 hours a day minimum). none of the people I know, who do it professionally, can play all of these instruments in a high quality. and I am sorry to say that, but they are just normal average children, who can play something on their instrument but not professionally as taina always claims.
Cleopatra is way too old for this business now. When you are 18, you should be in music university and compete with others. I know in Helsinki is a very good school for music, the Sibelius academy. this would be the right place for a Finnish musician. but this is just taina, telling everyone that her children can do everything better without knowing anything about the world. and also if cleopatra ever wanted to be a pianist.. playing more than an octave is normal and totally required. all the pieces you play, which are more complex, afford more than an octave. therefor its nothing special if you can do this. just wanted to clarify that topic.

nevertheless every child is something special to their parent and always the most talented and precious person in the world.i won't disrespect that, but please Taina look up on youtube and watch all these musical talents who have been practicing their whole life before telling the world that playing 10 instruments is a wonder. in this kind of level, everyone could play 10 instruments.

they kind of live in their bubble without any disturbances. somehow I feel that Leonardo is a disturbance for her. she never mentions him anymore. and I feel sad that he has to live on his own without the help of his parents. they must for sure have enough money to support him while studying. when you can buy 2 Chanel glasses for yourself, you should be able to help out your own son with his education.

I hope you don't get me wrong. I am always wondering why people would point out their life in this kind of way and use their children to make money..

That video is from about 4 years ago, it was from school not work and the famlly was still Licciardo Smith back then according to the government registry. Jerusalem does not have a job outside of Youtube

[AllAboutTT2020]

also isn't Romeo way too short for his age??

Ahh yeh,now you mention it,Sin,he is a bit of a shorty,bless him.
I hope he grows tall like his older bros and sister,as he is such a gorgeous boy and very much liked by the young ladies!
He is deffo my favourite of the older kids. Seems to have a very sweet nature.
I hope that he and Affy always keep their special closeness,she’s lucky to have such a great buddy ( tho I don't approve of the buddy system- why have kids and expect older siblings to take care of them most of the time? Not fair trying to put an old head on young shoulders IMHO )

[AllAboutTT2020]

I wanted to show you a video of Jerusalem from his work, where he is called Jerusalem licciardo SMITH



so this is kind of weird actually. I mean the employer will definitely know and post his right name ..

to me they talk and act unnaturally. are they ever going to move to Australia or is it just a trick to keep the viewers watching? I stopped watching her video as it got bored and kind of strange. I liked the first videos which showed a more natural behavior than now and also a routine which can be normal for homeschooled children. But nevertheless no one goes to fitness at 3 am in the night like Cleopatra. but every view counts and every view, even just to talk about them in a negative way, gives her money.

They should start working a normal job and be a role model for their children instead of living from the church and from youtube.
asking myself also what Leonardo has reached with youtube and what he is doing with his life. he has never learnt that its normal to go to your working place everyday.

and also as a professional musician (cellist from Berlin ) I can say, that none of them is ever going to be successfull with music. to play one instrument in this kind of quality, you need hours of practice (8 hours a day minimum). none of the people I know, who do it professionally, can play all of these instruments in a high quality. and I am sorry to say that, but they are just normal average children, who can play something on their instrument but not professionally as taina always claims.
Cleopatra is way too old for this business now. When you are 18, you should be in music university and compete with others. I know in Helsinki is a very good school for music, the Sibelius academy. this would be the right place for a Finnish musician. but this is just taina, telling everyone that her children can do everything better without knowing anything about the world. and also if cleopatra ever wanted to be a pianist.. playing more than an octave is normal and totally required. all the pieces you play, which are more complex, afford more than an octave. therefor its nothing special if you can do this. just wanted to clarify that topic.

nevertheless every child is something special to their parent and always the most talented and precious person in the world.i won't disrespect that, but please Taina look up on youtube and watch all these musical talents who have been practicing their whole life before telling the world that playing 10 instruments is a wonder. in this kind of level, everyone could play 10 instruments.

they kind of live in their bubble without any disturbances. somehow I feel that Leonardo is a disturbance for her. she never mentions him anymore. and I feel sad that he has to live on his own without the help of his parents. they must for sure have enough money to support him while studying. when you can buy 2 Chanel glasses for yourself, you should be able to help out your own son with his education.

I hope you don't get me wrong. I am always wondering why people would point out their life in this kind of way and use their children to make money..

That video is from about 4 years ago, it was from school not work and the famlly was still Licciardo Smith back then according to the government registry. Jerusalem does not have a job outside of Youtube

Thanks Celloanna for the interesting vid, and also for a very interesting and thoughtful post.
Its informative to read the POV of sbody like yrself,a professional musician
I find it irritating and also profoundly sad that Taina feels the need to boast so wildly and misguidedly about her children’s abilities.
They are wonderful exactly just as they are,for the reason than they are all precious gifts she has been fortunate enough to receive into her life.
Very sad,too,like you said,that Leo apparently is now outside his parents’ love and support. Thats v much the impression we get,and its quite upsetting to many of us here,as we know he has admitted to feeling depression.
Can anyone here translate for us what's said in the video,wd be inteesting to know!
Licciardo Smith..Smith is a very common name in the Uk..my guess is maybe they feel Licciardo Toivola is more attention grabbing!

[AllAboutTT2020]

just watched snippets of the vegan lasagna video
the boys look so uncomfortable and sound so rehearsed it's like they're being held at gun point and god forbid if they say something other than the rehearsed bits :/

All those kids need a life outside the family. They need to go to school or need a job. Get an education, earn some real money. Give back to society. The money that family has taken in benefits is obscene considering what they haven't given back in terms of helping others etc. All that designer stuff. I phones. Etc. Etc. Taina is really clutching at straws here with these really awful recipes. And pretending to have nearly 900k followers. No way. She is buying them so she can reach a million. Not that many people look at her videos. And her kids can quite easily boost the viewing numbers by spending all day clicking on her vlogs. However I do miss seeing Aphrodite. She is a charmer.

Very well said,Dru,I completely agree with everything in your post.
A is such a natural and seems to be the only one not willing to comply with Mamma,even at such a tender age. I think she may be whats called an old soul,been here before.
KJ has won my heart but worries me,such a sensitive little chap struggling at times in the rough and tumble of a big family,and Dart and Romeo have also wound themselves round my heartstrings!

[AllAboutTT2020]

This is LameGothMom,re the LTfamily’s New Year vlog,part 2 of 2,which I havent watched,as I find the snow related playing in snow,snowfights,the hot tub,the sauna,snowmen,snowballs etc pretty boring,and even though Im not a fan of L Goth Mom- I find her a bit OTT about LTs at times - but she does make some pertinent points.

E.g.,Rather than film the kids in hot tub etc,why not just be with them and Paul,as a family,its NYE,really spend time together!
As a supposed minimalist,Why the designer stuff,why not just wellies for the kids,why not less food,and why no recipes for the surfeit of dishes on display for the NY feast?

What I noticed,viewing this vlog along with Goth Mom,is how monotonous it is
Goes on for such a long time but -v little happening. So so very slow.
More than anything, how little joy,conversation and laughter on display,no banter or jokes,as they feast and “ celebrate”.No atmosphere at all.
Maybe its entirely different when the camera is - at long last - put down,who knows. I really hope so,for the kids’ sake.
I had to give up about 20mins in,when the breakdancing started - groan!- then we were taken into some old footage - kids dancing on table in van,Omega clocks Cleo in the face,how charming.
Sorry I couldn't take another second. X

[AllAboutTT2020]

Ps! Sorry,no idea why that big empty gap in my post another senior moment no doubt! X
Pps it has vanished now I think..more senior moments grrr! X

[Ashley18032]

Everything everyone posted it spot on, especially the recipes. Hey, I can even do 3 recipes with water. I will say that the video must have taken a long time to do, especially with how the beans were plated in the end. That was visually pleasing so a thumbs up for that.

Ashley, my dear, what did you post to Annie that got vaporized? I couldn’t figure her out at first because she seems to criticize but also praise. I’ve come to the conclusion that even though she criticizes, deep down she is a full on fan. Consequently, I watch what I say there.

If anyone wonders what I am talking about, it’s the Taina FB group and I ran into Ashley over there.

Calling her out on her false criticism and telling her basically to pick a side and stop the back and forth BS. She is annoying she can’t pick a stance she tries to play both sides and it’s annoying hate me or love me I am honest and don’t fake it to gain popularity!


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[Wildebeast-cps]

Everything everyone posted it spot on, especially the recipes. Hey, I can even do 3 recipes with water. I will say that the video must have taken a long time to do, especially with how the beans were plated in the end. That was visually pleasing so a thumbs up for that.

Ashley, my dear, what did you post to Annie that got vaporized? I couldn’t figure her out at first because she seems to criticize but also praise. I’ve come to the conclusion that even though she criticizes, deep down she is a full on fan. Consequently, I watch what I say there.

If anyone wonders what I am talking about, it’s the Taina FB group and I ran into Ashley over there.

Calling her out on her false criticism and telling her basically to pick a side and stop the back and forth BS. She is annoying she can’t pick a stance she tries to play both sides and it’s annoying hate me or love me I am honest and don’t fake it to gain popularity!


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Yes, I figured her out almost right away. I mention Ann Hamilton but she didn’t see ANY parallels so that did it for me.

[Iluvtorant]

I wanted to show you a video of Jerusalem from his work, where he is called Jerusalem licciardo SMITH



so this is kind of weird actually. I mean the employer will definitely know and post his right name ..

to me they talk and act unnaturally. are they ever going to move to Australia or is it just a trick to keep the viewers watching? I stopped watching her video as it got bored and kind of strange. I liked the first videos which showed a more natural behavior than now and also a routine which can be normal for homeschooled children. But nevertheless no one goes to fitness at 3 am in the night like Cleopatra. but every view counts and every view, even just to talk about them in a negative way, gives her money.

They should start working a normal job and be a role model for their children instead of living from the church and from youtube.
asking myself also what Leonardo has reached with youtube and what he is doing with his life. he has never learnt that its normal to go to your working place everyday.

and also as a professional musician (cellist from Berlin ) I can say, that none of them is ever going to be successfull with music. to play one instrument in this kind of quality, you need hours of practice (8 hours a day minimum). none of the people I know, who do it professionally, can play all of these instruments in a high quality. and I am sorry to say that, but they are just normal average children, who can play something on their instrument but not professionally as taina always claims.
Cleopatra is way too old for this business now. When you are 18, you should be in music university and compete with others. I know in Helsinki is a very good school for music, the Sibelius academy. this would be the right place for a Finnish musician. but this is just taina, telling everyone that her children can do everything better without knowing anything about the world. and also if cleopatra ever wanted to be a pianist.. playing more than an octave is normal and totally required. all the pieces you play, which are more complex, afford more than an octave. therefor its nothing special if you can do this. just wanted to clarify that topic.

nevertheless every child is something special to their parent and always the most talented and precious person in the world.i won't disrespect that, but please Taina look up on youtube and watch all these musical talents who have been practicing their whole life before telling the world that playing 10 instruments is a wonder. in this kind of level, everyone could play 10 instruments.

they kind of live in their bubble without any disturbances. somehow I feel that Leonardo is a disturbance for her. she never mentions him anymore. and I feel sad that he has to live on his own without the help of his parents. they must for sure have enough money to support him while studying. when you can buy 2 Chanel glasses for yourself, you should be able to help out your own son with his education.

I hope you don't get me wrong. I am always wondering why people would point out their life in this kind of way and use their children to make money..

That video is from about 4 years ago, it was from school not work and the famlly was still Licciardo Smith back then according to the government registry. Jerusalem does not have a job outside of Youtube

Thanks Celloanna for the interesting vid, and also for a very interesting and thoughtful post.
Its informative to read the POV of sbody like yrself,a professional musician
I find it irritating and also profoundly sad that Taina feels the need to boast so wildly and misguidedly about her children’s abilities.
They are wonderful exactly just as they are,for the reason than they are all precious gifts she has been fortunate enough to receive into her life.
Very sad,too,like you said,that Leo apparently is now outside his parents’ love and support. Thats v much the impression we get,and its quite upsetting to many of us here,as we know he has admitted to feeling depression.
Can anyone here translate for us what's said in the video,wd be inteesting to know!
Licciardo Smith..Smith is a very common name in the Uk..my guess is maybe they feel Licciardo Toivola is more attention grabbing!

In the video they ask how does it feel to work on a construction site? Leonardo answers "good". Then they ask what kind of experiences he has... Jerulam just says he has learned a lot of everything... nodding his head "good" (probably meaning good experience). That other student rambles much more and tells how he would recommend the program. The title is called "vocational school stories". Practically it's a vocational school add.