Cam&Fam | Part Three

[sparkledglitter]

Omfg guys, talk about them as much as you want but don't freaking come here and say how she should live her life or that she's responsible for her death. Or that she is a bad person for taking off her wedding ring. THAT WAS MY POINT! Out of my whole paragraph, the sentence ''you're still discussing both of them'' is the one thing you are focusing on? How tf can you sit here saying that it's her fault she got pregnant and she did it on purpose? Like WHAT? Are you all girls? Why are we suddenly blaming a girl for the pregnancy? it takes TWO to conceive, and it not just camryns fault, it was ALSO LANDONS! I am tired of people only blaming the girl for unplanned pregnancy because it is not! And if Camryn did it on purpose, well then it means they did not use protection. It was Landon's responsibility to make sure she was still using birth control, or hmm... maybe use protection himself? Why is it only girls' responsibility to use protection? It is not. so just stop. He wanted to be a dad, do you know how easy it is for boys to just run away as soon as their girlfriends get pregnant? Just look at the statistics on how many teen boys that leave! He chose to stay because he wanted to be a dad. Cam moved to Florida, he could easily have avoided them. BOTH of them were messed up because they were struggling with their mental health. It is not just cam's fault.


Of course, they are moving on. What else do you expect Cam to do? Cry in her bed all day while Coco and Delilah are starving and sleepy? She has to get up, take care of them, be there for her fam, make plans for the future, and find a new way to live her life. You guys are so weird. First, you are saying that she is trying to forget about him, but when she actually talks about him on insta and tiktok then it is wrong of her? Make up your mind, kids.

And yes there's a lot of landons death that we do not know about. Of course there is. But why are you acting as if you have the right to know? It is THEIR story and she shared what she wanted to share. We know he took his own life, but we do not need to dig into it and expect to know every detail. You guys are obsessed with the small details, like when she said she cooked food that day but they ate mc donalds. Like oh, because they ate mc donalds instead it means something is off with cam? Yeah right... it is SCARY to be here seeing all the comments. Victim blaming much? It is NOT only her responsibility that she got pregnant, it is NOT true she tried to manipulate Landon into being with her, he did that himself. It is NOT her fault he is dead. He was already struggling way before they got Coco, before he met cam! No she is not a bad person for taking off the ring. No she is not trying to forget about Landon. JUST STOP!

[polar_bear]

Omfg guys, talk about them as much as you want but don't freaking come here and say how she should live her life or that she's responsible for her death. Or that she is a bad person for taking off her wedding ring. THAT WAS MY POINT! Out of my whole paragraph, the sentence ''you're still discussing both of them'' is the one thing you are focusing on? How tf can you sit here saying that it's her fault she got pregnant and she did it on purpose? Like WHAT? Are you all girls? Why are we suddenly blaming a girl for the pregnancy? it takes TWO to conceive, and it not just camryns fault, it was ALSO LANDONS! I am tired of people only blaming the girl for unplanned pregnancy because it is not! And if Camryn did it on purpose, well then it means they did not use protection. It was Landon's responsibility to make sure she was still using birth control, or hmm... maybe use protection himself? Why is it only girls' responsibility to use protection? It is not. so just stop. He wanted to be a dad, do you know how easy it is for boys to just run away as soon as their girlfriends get pregnant? Just look at the statistics on how many teen boys that leave! He chose to stay because he wanted to be a dad. Cam moved to Florida, he could easily have avoided them. BOTH of them were messed up because they were struggling with their mental health. It is not just cam's fault.


Of course, they are moving on. What else do you expect Cam to do? Cry in her bed all day while Coco and Delilah are starving and sleepy? She has to get up, take care of them, be there for her fam, make plans for the future, and find a new way to live her life. You guys are so weird. First, you are saying that she is trying to forget about him, but when she actually talks about him on insta and tiktok then it is wrong of her? Make up your mind, kids.

And yes there's a lot of landons death that we do not know about. Of course there is. But why are you acting as if you have the right to know? It is THEIR story and she shared what she wanted to share. We know he took his own life, but we do not need to dig into it and expect to know every detail. You guys are obsessed with the small details, like when she said she cooked food that day but they ate mc donalds. Like oh, because they ate mc donalds instead it means something is off with cam? Yeah right... it is SCARY to be here seeing all the comments. Victim blaming much? It is NOT only her responsibility that she got pregnant, it is NOT true she tried to manipulate Landon into being with her, he did that himself. It is NOT her fault he is dead. He was already struggling way before they got Coco, before he met cam! No she is not a bad person for taking off the ring. No she is not trying to forget about Landon. JUST STOP!

Yes, it takes two to make a kid, but still, it doesn't mean that he couldn't have been fooled. I hope that everybody will end these topics right here about the things that I am going to talk about. She showed EVERY SIGN that she purposefully got pregnant. The fact that she said MULTIPLE times that she wants to be a mom young so she could retire earlier doesn't tell you something? An accidental pregnancy was Maddie's, for instance, not Cam's. Tell me what teen is sooo eager to have another kid at 18 when she had one at 16. If you got pregnant by mistake at that age, trust me, you wouldn't want to go through the same struggles. Yes, they were married and had a place to stay, but this doesn't excuse anything. They were still 18! She was so happy to child-trap Landon, she was relaxed, not stressed at all, whereas Landon was desperate! You could see it on their faces. She had sex before with other guys, she knows how to use protection! She said in a video that she and Landon had sex multiple times without protection and without birth control before she was pregnant with Coco. Boys are lied to! They don't know if the girl really took the pill or not, so of course he didn't use a condom. I thought it was clear that Coco was not a mistake. And here are multiple people, we have different point of views, of course they contradict themselves.

[alexandramarie]

Omfg guys, talk about them as much as you want but don't freaking come here and say how she should live her life or that she's responsible for her death. Or that she is a bad person for taking off her wedding ring. THAT WAS MY POINT! Out of my whole paragraph, the sentence ''you're still discussing both of them'' is the one thing you are focusing on? How tf can you sit here saying that it's her fault she got pregnant and she did it on purpose? Like WHAT? Are you all girls? Why are we suddenly blaming a girl for the pregnancy? it takes TWO to conceive, and it not just camryns fault, it was ALSO LANDONS! I am tired of people only blaming the girl for unplanned pregnancy because it is not! And if Camryn did it on purpose, well then it means they did not use protection. It was Landon's responsibility to make sure she was still using birth control, or hmm... maybe use protection himself? Why is it only girls' responsibility to use protection? It is not. so just stop. He wanted to be a dad, do you know how easy it is for boys to just run away as soon as their girlfriends get pregnant? Just look at the statistics on how many teen boys that leave! He chose to stay because he wanted to be a dad. Cam moved to Florida, he could easily have avoided them. BOTH of them were messed up because they were struggling with their mental health. It is not just cam's fault.


Of course, they are moving on. What else do you expect Cam to do? Cry in her bed all day while Coco and Delilah are starving and sleepy? She has to get up, take care of them, be there for her fam, make plans for the future, and find a new way to live her life. You guys are so weird. First, you are saying that she is trying to forget about him, but when she actually talks about him on insta and tiktok then it is wrong of her? Make up your mind, kids.

And yes there's a lot of landons death that we do not know about. Of course there is. But why are you acting as if you have the right to know? It is THEIR story and she shared what she wanted to share. We know he took his own life, but we do not need to dig into it and expect to know every detail. You guys are obsessed with the small details, like when she said she cooked food that day but they ate mc donalds. Like oh, because they ate mc donalds instead it means something is off with cam? Yeah right... it is SCARY to be here seeing all the comments. Victim blaming much? It is NOT only her responsibility that she got pregnant, it is NOT true she tried to manipulate Landon into being with her, he did that himself. It is NOT her fault he is dead. He was already struggling way before they got Coco, before he met cam! No she is not a bad person for taking off the ring. No she is not trying to forget about Landon. JUST STOP!

Yes, it takes two to make a kid, but still, it doesn't mean that he couldn't have been fooled. I hope that everybody will end these topics right here about the things that I am going to talk about. She showed EVERY SIGN that she purposefully got pregnant. The fact that she said MULTIPLE times that she wants to be a mom young so she could retire earlier doesn't tell you something? An accidental pregnancy was Maddie's, for instance, not Cam's. Tell me what teen is sooo eager to have another kid at 18 when she had one at 16. If you got pregnant by mistake at that age, trust me, you wouldn't want to go through the same struggles. Yes, they were married and had a place to stay, but this doesn't excuse anything. They were still 18! She was so happy to child-trap Landon, she was relaxed, not stressed at all, whereas Landon was desperate! You could see it on their faces. She had sex before with other guys, she knows how to use protection! She said in a video that she and Landon had sex multiple times without protection and without birth control before she was pregnant with Coco. Boys are lied to! They don't know if the girl really took the pill or not, so of course he didn't use a condom. I thought it was clear that Coco was not a mistake. And here are multiple people, we have different point of views, of course they contradict themselves.

I totally agree like I understand that you need a mans sperm to get pregnant but in my opinion the woman has full control over it. The pill is supposed to be 90% effective which Cam was taking so Landon not being stressed to wear a condom seems reasonable in my opinion. Also men can’t force a woman to get an abortion I mean they might emotionally manipulate them into getting one but essentially it’s a women’s choice so if she wants to keep the baby regardless of the partners opinion she can. Like Yasmyn saying her boyfriend got her pregnant on purpose is absolute bullshit she had full control over that situation.

Ps I understand they are other situations like rape but I’m not talking about that


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[nat27]

I've been waiting for this one (Was Coco Planned? The Debate). I want to clarify a couple of things. Several posts have mentioned Cam taking the pill. Camryn was not on the pill at the time Coco was conceived. She was using the Nuvaring, which is an insert. According to her, she was late to put it in, but did the deed anyway, thinking it was going to be okay. :/

Next, they were not using condoms, at LEAST not on the 4th of July. In one of her videos, Camryn states "Condoms were not involved." I would love to include links and even timestamps for all this, but I'm way too lazy so you'll just have to take my word for it. I have nothing to gain from lying lol. Pretty sure it's from a Reading Hate Comments vid. Landon was in the particular video. The nuvaring story has been mentioned quite a few times in her earlier videos but the couple of 'lack of condoms' comments are something you would have to comb through the vids for. I digress! Next we have the whole Camryn recognizing what implantation bleeding is situation as a Texan 16 year old who had no formal sex education, and was supposedly not expecting this at all.

You guys can use these facts to inform your opinions on the Great Was Coco Planned Debate. The purpose of this little blurb is not to hate on Camryn, but rather clarify a few facts (all from Camryn's mouth) about how Coco was conceived.

P.S. I'm a supporter of Camryn, despite being able to connect the dots about the deceit (IMO) that has taken place. I just think it's... fascinating... how overlooked the verity of this situation is. Planned baby or not, Camryn has my backing, donations, and messages of encouragement. I believe in hindsight she would have made better decisions.

[Dandelion11]

Omfg guys, talk about them as much as you want but don't freaking come here and say how she should live her life or that she's responsible for her death. Or that she is a bad person for taking off her wedding ring. THAT WAS MY POINT! Out of my whole paragraph, the sentence ''you're still discussing both of them'' is the one thing you are focusing on? How tf can you sit here saying that it's her fault she got pregnant and she did it on purpose? Like WHAT? Are you all girls? Why are we suddenly blaming a girl for the pregnancy? it takes TWO to conceive, and it not just camryns fault, it was ALSO LANDONS! I am tired of people only blaming the girl for unplanned pregnancy because it is not! And if Camryn did it on purpose, well then it means they did not use protection. It was Landon's responsibility to make sure she was still using birth control, or hmm... maybe use protection himself? Why is it only girls' responsibility to use protection? It is not. so just stop. He wanted to be a dad, do you know how easy it is for boys to just run away as soon as their girlfriends get pregnant? Just look at the statistics on how many teen boys that leave! He chose to stay because he wanted to be a dad. Cam moved to Florida, he could easily have avoided them. BOTH of them were messed up because they were struggling with their mental health. It is not just cam's fault.


Of course, they are moving on. What else do you expect Cam to do? Cry in her bed all day while Coco and Delilah are starving and sleepy? She has to get up, take care of them, be there for her fam, make plans for the future, and find a new way to live her life. You guys are so weird. First, you are saying that she is trying to forget about him, but when she actually talks about him on insta and tiktok then it is wrong of her? Make up your mind, kids.

And yes there's a lot of landons death that we do not know about. Of course there is. But why are you acting as if you have the right to know? It is THEIR story and she shared what she wanted to share. We know he took his own life, but we do not need to dig into it and expect to know every detail. You guys are obsessed with the small details, like when she said she cooked food that day but they ate mc donalds. Like oh, because they ate mc donalds instead it means something is off with cam? Yeah right... it is SCARY to be here seeing all the comments. Victim blaming much? It is NOT only her responsibility that she got pregnant, it is NOT true she tried to manipulate Landon into being with her, he did that himself. It is NOT her fault he is dead. He was already struggling way before they got Coco, before he met cam! No she is not a bad person for taking off the ring. No she is not trying to forget about Landon. JUST STOP!

Yes, it takes two to make a kid, but still, it doesn't mean that he couldn't have been fooled. I hope that everybody will end these topics right here about the things that I am going to talk about. She showed EVERY SIGN that she purposefully got pregnant. The fact that she said MULTIPLE times that she wants to be a mom young so she could retire earlier doesn't tell you something? An accidental pregnancy was Maddie's, for instance, not Cam's. Tell me what teen is sooo eager to have another kid at 18 when she had one at 16. If you got pregnant by mistake at that age, trust me, you wouldn't want to go through the same struggles. Yes, they were married and had a place to stay, but this doesn't excuse anything. They were still 18! She was so happy to child-trap Landon, she was relaxed, not stressed at all, whereas Landon was desperate! You could see it on their faces. She had sex before with other guys, she knows how to use protection! She said in a video that she and Landon had sex multiple times without protection and without birth control before she was pregnant with Coco. Boys are lied to! They don't know if the girl really took the pill or not, so of course he didn't use a condom. I thought it was clear that Coco was not a mistake. And here are multiple people, we have different point of views, of course they contradict themselves.

I totally agree like I understand that you need a mans sperm to get pregnant but in my opinion the woman has full control over it. The pill is supposed to be 90% effective which Cam was taking so Landon not being stressed to wear a condom seems reasonable in my opinion. Also men can’t force a woman to get an abortion I mean they might emotionally manipulate them into getting one but essentially it’s a women’s choice so if she wants to keep the baby regardless of the partners opinion she can. Like Yasmyn saying her boyfriend got her pregnant on purpose is absolute bullshit she had full control over that situation.

Ps I understand they are other situations like rape but I’m not talking about that


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A man has full control over it too... Wear a condom. Why does the responsibility fall solely on the woman? It doesn't matter if the man trusts the woman to be on another form of birth control - they can fail. If a guy really doesn't want to have a child he has just as much of an ability to help prevent it yet somehow women are always the ones blamed for unplanned pregnancies. I'm not even specifically talking about Cam in this case because maybe she did want it to happen... but Landon could have very easily stopped that.

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[Brittdann15]

Hey everyone. I'm brand new to this site but have been reading the comments for a month or so. I never even heard of Cam and Fam and didn't know teen mom YouTube was a thing until late August when I saw an article about Landon's death. I actually scoured the internet to try to find something about it all being fake because something seemed so weird/off to me about the whole thing. I saw that Camryn had some PR company in her profile back then and I thought she must've paid for her following because I didn't get how someone so average looking and boring/unenthusiastic had such a large following...and I had hoped that Landon's death was fake because the only obituary I could find online said something about him starring in Cam and Fam, almost like Camryn wrote his obituary to get more views on YouTube or something. Not saying that happened but the red flags kept popping up left and right and haven't stopped, and I got sucked into the mess because quarantine.

I've watched a lot of their videos just trying to make sense of this very strange and off dynamic and the way I see it is that Landon was a good kid from a decent family just living his life/being a normal teen and Camryn purposely manipulated him and got pregnant because she came from a messed up family where she never got enough attention etc. and she clearly had some issues she thought getting pregnant would resolve, or distract her from. Camryn said she wanted to be a young mom and never wanted to go to college or anything like that, but Landon did and she literally just stole his whole life and future plans from him. All so she could have the life she pictured in her head, because you can clearly tell from watching her videos that is all about herself. My heart broke when I heard that a 16 year old was working full time and going to school just to give his money to Camryn for the baby she manipulated him into having. And Camryn was already conniving and dishonest which is why Landon's family didn't like her. I don't buy her story that people "took advantage of her" by going to Landon's house and destroying his family's stuff. It seemed like she always played him like a fool and took advantage of him their entire relationship. And he seemed like such a good guy for going along with all her plans but it's so painful to watch the videos where she constantly shuts down everything he says/suggests and makes them do everything her way. I can see such a drastic change in him from 2018 when they lived in FL to 2019 when they were in Texas for a while. His eyes were so sunken in and he just looked awful. Something about Camryn seems so bratty and off to me. I wish I could put my finger on it but "off" is the only way I can describe it.

I also don't like the new content with her family. It's like she's trying to have Addi replace Landon. No offense to Addi but I'm not interested in the 'sister' content and their podcast seems extremely boring and something I'll never want to listen to. Her mom seems like FL anti-masker trash. I get a bad vide whenever she's around. And it breaks my heart to see them all going about their lives like Landon didn't even exist. I feel so bad that he got roped into living a life that Camryn wanted and the only way he thought he could get out of it was to end his life. And it couldn't be more obvious that Camryn prefers Coco over Delilah. Hours after Delilah was born she was already comparing them and complaining that Delilah needed more of her attention then she thought. Okay that's all I have for now lol clearly I had a lot to say while watching this catastrophe.

It takes two people to make a baby. If he had worn protection than he would've never had to work and take care of a baby at 16. Don't just blame Cam. Thats not right. If he didn't take care of them then you'd probably judge him for that too.

[here4thedrama]

I've been waiting for this one (Was Coco Planned? The Debate). I want to clarify a couple of things. Several posts have mentioned Cam taking the pill. Camryn was not on the pill at the time Coco was conceived. She was using the Nuvaring, which is an insert. According to her, she was late to put it in, but did the deed anyway, thinking it was going to be okay. :/

Next, they were not using condoms, at LEAST not on the 4th of July. In one of her videos, Camryn states "Condoms were not involved." I would love to include links and even timestamps for all this, but I'm way too lazy so you'll just have to take my word for it. I have nothing to gain from lying lol. Pretty sure it's from a Reading Hate Comments vid. Landon was in the particular video. The nuvaring story has been mentioned quite a few times in her earlier videos but the couple of 'lack of condoms' comments are something you would have to comb through the vids for. I digress! Next we have the whole Camryn recognizing what implantation bleeding is situation as a Texan 16 year old who had no formal sex education, and was supposedly not expecting this at all.

You guys can use these facts to inform your opinions on the Great Was Coco Planned Debate. The purpose of this little blurb is not to hate on Camryn, but rather clarify a few facts (all from Camryn's mouth) about how Coco was conceived.

P.S. I'm a supporter of Camryn, despite being able to connect the dots about the deceit (IMO) that has taken place. I just think it's... fascinating... how overlooked the verity of this situation is. Planned baby or not, Camryn has my backing, donations, and messages of encouragement. I believe in hindsight she would have made better decisions.

I 100% agree. She also said more than once that she was already thinking about baby names right after she took the pregnancy test. She was trying to talk to Landon about names and he asked her to stop because he was so overwhelmed by the whole thing. She mentioned that he needed time to be alone cause he was freaking out and she wished she "could be a fly on the wall" to see what he was doing...I am sure the poor kid was having a panic attack. She made this decision and Landon had to go along with it because he wasn't going to abandon her. Some others suggested that she got pregnant because she knew her family would be moving to FL and that makes a lot of sense to me. Many girls try to "baby trap" men for a lack of better words. In most cases girls do this when their relationship is coming to an end but in this case it seemed to be motivated by her family leaving TX.

I am also a supporter of Camryn and think she is a much better mom than the other teen mom YouTubers I've seen. It is really weird that she knew what implantation bleeding was at that age. I honestly didn't know what it was because I have purposely avoided getting pregnant...kinda sounds like she did her own research on that one because that isn't something that's taught in health class.

[Brittdann15]

Yes, it takes two to make a kid, but still, it doesn't mean that he couldn't have been fooled. I hope that everybody will end these topics right here about the things that I am going to talk about. She showed EVERY SIGN that she purposefully got pregnant. The fact that she said MULTIPLE times that she wants to be a mom young so she could retire earlier doesn't tell you something? An accidental pregnancy was Maddie's, for instance, not Cam's. Tell me what teen is sooo eager to have another kid at 18 when she had one at 16. If you got pregnant by mistake at that age, trust me, you wouldn't want to go through the same struggles. Yes, they were married and had a place to stay, but this doesn't excuse anything. They were still 18! She was so happy to child-trap Landon, she was relaxed, not stressed at all, whereas Landon was desperate! You could see it on their faces. She had sex before with other guys, she knows how to use protection! She said in a video that she and Landon had sex multiple times without protection and without birth control before she was pregnant with Coco. Boys are lied to! They don't know if the girl really took the pill or not, so of course he didn't use a condom. I thought it was clear that Coco was not a mistake. And here are multiple people, we have different point of views, of course they contradict themselves.

I totally agree like I understand that you need a mans sperm to get pregnant but in my opinion the woman has full control over it. The pill is supposed to be 90% effective which Cam was taking so Landon not being stressed to wear a condom seems reasonable in my opinion. Also men can’t force a woman to get an abortion I mean they might emotionally manipulate them into getting one but essentially it’s a women’s choice so if she wants to keep the baby regardless of the partners opinion she can. Like Yasmyn saying her boyfriend got her pregnant on purpose is absolute bullshit she had full control over that situation.

Ps I understand they are other situations like rape but I’m not talking about that


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A man has full control over it too... Wear a condom. Why does the responsibility fall solely on the woman? It doesn't matter if the man trusts the woman to be on another form of birth control - they can fail. If a guy really doesn't want to have a child he has just as much of an ability to help prevent it yet somehow women are always the ones blamed for unplanned pregnancies. I'm not even specifically talking about Cam in this case because maybe she did want it to happen... but Landon could have very easily stopped that.

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This was the most ignorant thing I've ever read. How are you going to blame a woman? He literally has a dick that has sperm that makes a child. He could easily have worn a condom. Even if she was on birth control its not 100 percent. He should have wrapped it up to be on the safe side.

[here4thedrama]

Hey everyone. I'm brand new to this site but have been reading the comments for a month or so. I never even heard of Cam and Fam and didn't know teen mom YouTube was a thing until late August when I saw an article about Landon's death. I actually scoured the internet to try to find something about it all being fake because something seemed so weird/off to me about the whole thing. I saw that Camryn had some PR company in her profile back then and I thought she must've paid for her following because I didn't get how someone so average looking and boring/unenthusiastic had such a large following...and I had hoped that Landon's death was fake because the only obituary I could find online said something about him starring in Cam and Fam, almost like Camryn wrote his obituary to get more views on YouTube or something. Not saying that happened but the red flags kept popping up left and right and haven't stopped, and I got sucked into the mess because quarantine.

I've watched a lot of their videos just trying to make sense of this very strange and off dynamic and the way I see it is that Landon was a good kid from a decent family just living his life/being a normal teen and Camryn purposely manipulated him and got pregnant because she came from a messed up family where she never got enough attention etc. and she clearly had some issues she thought getting pregnant would resolve, or distract her from. Camryn said she wanted to be a young mom and never wanted to go to college or anything like that, but Landon did and she literally just stole his whole life and future plans from him. All so she could have the life she pictured in her head, because you can clearly tell from watching her videos that is all about herself. My heart broke when I heard that a 16 year old was working full time and going to school just to give his money to Camryn for the baby she manipulated him into having. And Camryn was already conniving and dishonest which is why Landon's family didn't like her. I don't buy her story that people "took advantage of her" by going to Landon's house and destroying his family's stuff. It seemed like she always played him like a fool and took advantage of him their entire relationship. And he seemed like such a good guy for going along with all her plans but it's so painful to watch the videos where she constantly shuts down everything he says/suggests and makes them do everything her way. I can see such a drastic change in him from 2018 when they lived in FL to 2019 when they were in Texas for a while. His eyes were so sunken in and he just looked awful. Something about Camryn seems so bratty and off to me. I wish I could put my finger on it but "off" is the only way I can describe it.

I also don't like the new content with her family. It's like she's trying to have Addi replace Landon. No offense to Addi but I'm not interested in the 'sister' content and their podcast seems extremely boring and something I'll never want to listen to. Her mom seems like FL anti-masker trash. I get a bad vide whenever she's around. And it breaks my heart to see them all going about their lives like Landon didn't even exist. I feel so bad that he got roped into living a life that Camryn wanted and the only way he thought he could get out of it was to end his life. And it couldn't be more obvious that Camryn prefers Coco over Delilah. Hours after Delilah was born she was already comparing them and complaining that Delilah needed more of her attention then she thought. Okay that's all I have for now lol clearly I had a lot to say while watching this catastrophe.

It takes two people to make a baby. If he had worn protection than he would've never had to work and take care of a baby at 16. Don't just blame Cam. Thats not right. If he didn't take care of them then you'd probably judge him for that too.

Where was I judging Landon? Most people in relationships don't use condoms every time they have sex. Most guys know what kind of birth control their gf is on and if the girlfriend forgets to take it or takes it late like Camryn did, it's her responsibility to speak up and let him know so they can be extra careful. All signs point to her wanting to get pregnant. It IS manipulative to have a child with someone who did not necessarily agree to it. People do it all the time but it doesn't make it right.

[11349]

I also believe Coco was planned. Here are some other points not mentioned yet:

Camryn has said she felt the pressure to feel sad and act upset when she first got pregnant although she was pretty excited on the inside, she wasn't even shocked to find that out. I can't imagine any 16 year old coming to terms with an 'unplanned' pregnancy so quickly, especially under Cam's circumstances (not having any income, having a drama with Landon's parents, moving to a different state). I agree that what's done is done, but getting pregnant at 16 is not an ideal situation that one should feel extremely excite about, especially in the very beginning. She said everyone around didn't think it was a great idea (except her), but how can she blame them? It seems that everyone else but Cam was responsible and aware of what that situation meant.

Cam also said she used to watch YouTube for a long time before creating her own channel and she would always dream about joining in. Her teen pregnancy was a great kick start to getting a lot of views quickly. I'm not saying she got pregnant to start a channel, but it was ceratinly convenient because she finally had something to show and talk about. But what is she gonna do in the near future? When the girls get older? When Cam will no longer be a 'cool teen mom'? I don't wish her anything bad, I just feel like she did not calculate this part enough.

btw, Cam said she googled what could cause bleeding in the middle of your cycle and that's how she found out about implantation bleeding, she didn't know about it before.

[karentheboomer01]

Was anyone else pleasantly surprised by the interactions between Cam and Coco in her most recent video? It seems like their bond has become much better in the past few months and Coco seems to really love her mom. I remember Coco always used to be a daddy's girl, so I was wondering how this would turn out.

[futureccl]

Ahah sorry if it was me that started the Great Debate (was Coco planned? Stay tuned for more), I didn't mean to, although thanks to the people who were paying attention and know all the deets.

I really really don't like the term "baby trapped". In my experience that's simply not a thing: if a guy reaaaally doesn't want to stay, no amount of babies will keep him around in the long run. My original comment was just about how intense it is to blame cam for ruining landon's life.

Anyway, I do think Cam is stepping up to her motherly role, which is great. Just like with every other youtuber it would be great to see her invest in her future outside of youtube (getting an education, thinking about a career path) but that just doesn't seem to be a priority for these girls (and their boyfriends/husbands).

[polar_bear]

I love this thread and I am sad whenever I come here and there is nothing new in the last few days. Unlike other teen moms, Cam is pretty active on social media. Now I am sure that most of you don't follow her every move, but I do. Why? Not because I was a fan, not because I care about her, but because I want to see how she copes.
You can agree or disagree with me, that's fine, but don't come at me saying the same stuff I've read a billion times before.
She is honestly so weird, not in a creepy way, but in a "Wow, she really did that" kind of way. She honestly switches her pesonality based on social media app she is using. On youtube she is a normal teen mom who has plans for her house and family, on instagram she is posting pictures of her outfits and sometimes a sappy description on a family photo with Delilah and Coco and on tik tok she is a whole new person. Someone asked her on Tik Tok if she is bi or a lesbian and she answered "[...] I was in a relationship with a man for 5 years so idk". First of all, a man? I get it, you are mad at someone because they took their own life, but dear God, she should get past that stage. It is not healthy for her, first of all and second, for her daughters in the future. No matter the circumstances, you do not refer to your husband that passed away as "a man", she said his name before so what made her say "a man"? Second of all, "was". Yeah, I know, technically she is single, but still... there are tons of people that were in a relationship or were married and their soulmate passed away that STILL consider them as their gf/bf/spouse. At least when the trauma is so recent as this one. Of course they remarry, but after some time.
I am honestly sad that poor Landon was not cherished while he was still here and now, after he is gone, he is talked poorly about. I know that you want to defend Cam, but think about Landon for a bit and his family. We are all people and we know that it hurts like hell to lose someone, we know that not everybody acts the same way, but we shouldn't turn a blind eye to this. Of course nothing is gonna change and she won't read this, but I wanted to share, for God knows how many times, this strange situation. And no, I am not saying that she should stop her life and cry all day, but she should respect the dead, especially someone as close as him. Her behavior is only getting worse as time goes by.

[blissablake]

I love this thread and I am sad whenever I come here and there is nothing new in the last few days. Unlike other teen moms, Cam is pretty active on social media. Now I am sure that most of you don't follow her every move, but I do. Why? Not because I was a fan, not because I care about her, but because I want to see how she copes.
You can agree or disagree with me, that's fine, but don't come at me saying the same stuff I've read a billion times before.
She is honestly so weird, not in a creepy way, but in a "Wow, she really did that" kind of way. She honestly switches her pesonality based on social media app she is using. On youtube she is a normal teen mom who has plans for her house and family, on instagram she is posting pictures of her outfits and sometimes a sappy description on a family photo with Delilah and Coco and on tik tok she is a whole new person. Someone asked her on Tik Tok if she is bi or a lesbian and she answered "[...] I was in a relationship with a man for 5 years so idk". First of all, a man? I get it, you are mad at someone because they took their own life, but dear God, she should get past that stage. It is not healthy for her, first of all and second, for her daughters in the future. No matter the circumstances, you do not refer to your husband that passed away as "a man", she said his name before so what made her say "a man"? Second of all, "was". Yeah, I know, technically she is single, but still... there are tons of people that were in a relationship or were married and their soulmate passed away that STILL consider them as their gf/bf/spouse. At least when the trauma is so recent as this one. Of course they remarry, but after some time.
I am honestly sad that poor Landon was not cherished while he was still here and now, after he is gone, he is talked poorly about. I know that you want to defend Cam, but think about Landon for a bit and his family. We are all people and we know that it hurts like hell to lose someone, we know that not everybody acts the same way, but we shouldn't turn a blind eye to this. Of course nothing is gonna change and she won't read this, but I wanted to share, for God knows how many times, this strange situation. And no, I am not saying that she should stop her life and cry all day, but she should respect the dead, especially someone as close as him. Her behavior is only getting worse as time goes by.

I really don’t think she meant it the way you took it. The question was about sexuality and she stated she was in a relationship with a man which makes sense because Landon was a dude and that’s pretty representative of if she’s a lesbian...


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[roze2113]

I think it's also important to remember that we don't know that much about Landon as a person. We know a ton about Cam, since she is the person who started and filmed and edited their YouTube channel, so obviously if we know more about her then we can make inferences about her. It's possible that we are missing a part of Landon's personality that was deliberately kept out of the vlogs to keep up the appearance of the happy family. I'm not saying he was an awful person, just that we don't know the full story and probably never will.
I am not totally convinced that Camryn planned her pregnancy. I think it's possible that she was being unsafe and thought it wouldn't be the end of the world if she ended up pregnant... but I don't think she deliberately tricked Landon into getting her pregnant. As other people have said on here, it takes two people to make a baby. No matter how much protection you use, it isn't guaranteed that it won't result in a pregnancy. Also, Texas sex ed (and most places in the US) is awful, abstinence-based bullshit that doesn't stop teen pregnancies. I doubt she was informed on birth control methods and the actual risk of becoming pregnant with misuse.
I think something else that should be considered is how awful Cam's mother is. She isn't a great role model. Alyssa also exploited her kids, probably moreso that Cam does in my opinion. I think both Camryn and Landon experienced a lot of childhood trauma, so while it wasn't probably the smartest idea to move so far away from their safety net so early into their relationship and children's lives, it's understandable that they would want to get away from their families. Not to mention that Cam's parents still decided to move to Florida even after they found out Cam was pregnant... regardless of if Cam was trying to baby trap Landon or not, it's still awful to move your pregnant daughter away from her best friend and father of her child. And I believe the reasoning for them wanting to move to Florida is because they wanted to be by the beach... Not enough of a reason, if you ask me, to do that.
Given both of their mental health histories and the fact that they were so young when they got married, their story was bound to result in disaster at some point. I just wish it wouldn't have been so traumatic.

[alexandramarie]

I understand childhood trauma is relative and I’m not saying that Cam had it easy by any means, but I also don’t think Cam’s family/mom was that bad in the sense that she had to “run away” and start her own family like Yasmyn Switzer and many other teen moms with terrible childhoods. I’m not saying that I think Cams mom is great like she definitely has some questionable parenting skills but considering how much of a support she has been a long with the rest of Cam’s family during this time they can’t be that bad...


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[futureccl]

I understand childhood trauma is relative and I’m not saying that Cam had it easy by any means, but I also don’t think Cam’s family/mom was that bad in the sense that she had to “run away” and start her own family like Yasmyn Switzer and many other teen moms with terrible childhoods. I’m not saying that I think Cams mom is great like she definitely has some questionable parenting skills but considering how much of a support she has been a long with the rest of Cam’s family during this time they can’t be that bad...


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I think like a previous poster pointed out, there must have been a lot of resentment after coco was born. Things didn't go as planned with her being so premature, and Cam was left alone in hospital with Landon in another state for months. Maybe she even blamed her mom for giving her bad advice which resulted in coco's premature birth, who knows. Anyway, they were 17, had enough money to move, cam's parents were going through a divorce, and it probably made sense at the time to move to Austin (fun, hip city, cool aunt and uncle near by) even though they didn't have a support system there. Also Cam's siblings were younger then, it's not like her 14 year old brother could have been much help, while now they're all old enough/stable enough to help her out.

One thing I will say about the timeline of Coco's conception is that if she was conceived on the 4th of July and Cam's family was moving to Florida for the next school year, that must have been already arranged for. School starts early August down south, so I really doubt they decided to move after they became aware of the pregnancy. My theory (not to go back to theories!) is that surely Cam and Landon knew about the move the Florida for a while before July, and the pregnancy was a consequence of the move, not vice versa. I don't know when Cam told her parents she was pregnant, but weren't they already in Florida at the point?

Other than that I totally agree that we really don't know much about Landon.

[littlerocketman]

Say what you want but I love Cam's vlogs now. I find them to be incredibly wholesome and she seems way more connected with her kids. I also love how healthy her relationship with her siblings is; they all seem to be super supportive to one another. Her dad seems super sweet as well. Alyssa seems super pretentious but she helps out with Collette and Delilah, which I know means the world to Cam. Cam just genuinely seems a lot happier and more put together. The circumstances leading up to this were horrible and unfair, but i just am happy she's taking this time to find herself again.

[anon96]

almost every member of this family doesnt social distance and hangs out with big groups of people. then they have a big christmas together, they are selfish and gross and I am done with no one caring. Floridas numbers are going up again.

[lolidkwhyididthis]

Made this account just to post this. I typed a long post but it didn’t post so I’m going to make this shorter. Has anyone noticed how different cam treats Delilah compared to how she treats coco?
1. Addi is usually the one holding or feeding her
2. At her apartment, she just plopped her down in a way too small bassinet in the corner for a nap. Didn’t kiss her or say goodnight or tuck her in. Just set her down while reading comments on her live video and walked out.
3. She calls her “baby” or “sissy” a lot. Rarely uses her real name. Not that that’s bad but coco is always yelling at her “no baby!” Or trying to pull her away or whatever. Maybe it’s a toddler thing but maybe she is mocking cam?
4. Not a single picture with her on her New Years post
5. Rarely does any activities with her like she did with coco. Not even just leaving the house cause I know there’s a pandemic. But even things inside. Ik coco was an only child & that’s why she got so much attention but I feel like Delilah is always being pushed aside
6. I think I’ve seen cam kiss or hug Delilah like once. Coco is always getting hugs. Not so much kisses but. I feel like cam realized after landon passed that maybe she didn’t want to be a mother as bad as she thought. But I don’t blame her. She didn’t think she’d ever be doing it alone especially with the kids so young. I feel like she strived for that “perfect teen family” picture perfect life & now that Landon is gone she’s over it. Looking back at their old vlogs too, it seems like Landon was always the one taking care of coco & the chores & everything else that came with that life. Cam does not seem mothery to me like the rest of the teen moms on YouTube do. It’s so sad to see. However I’m happy to see her finding herself again. It’s sad to “let go” of the old cam that I started watching years ago, but it’s nice to see her doing better. Side note: her tik tok’s & comments under them that she makes really make me feel like she felt held back by Landon. Almost as if now that he has passed, she can be herself unapologetically. Idk if that’s the message she is trying to give off but that’s what I’m getting from it.
I’ll elaborate more but please tell me someone noticed this too.