Steps to Wander: Natural Disaster

[HelloSweetie]

I'm surprised more people aren't mad about them going to the theater with a baby! Sure, they were pretty much alone, but just because they figured there wouldn't be many people doesn't mean they KNEW there would be. Would they have gone home if there were a lot of people? Probably not. June is too young to be out, especially to a MOVIE! Damn if that theater isn't gorgeous, though...

"Remember when we went to Dublin, my love?" Nooo, your wife would totally forget going to Ireland, little humble bragger. And I so cringed when he called her my love...I have hated it since day one! It just sounds so unnatural for him.

Does anyone else get the vibe that Corbon Footprint is a subversive control freak? I've only watch less than a dozen vlogs but there's an under current in his personality and him being a try_hard 'my love' charmer. Along with his reaction to the 'hater' comments (his face went red several times he was so angry but acting calm and 'nice'). I just get a controlling vibe from him. I haven't watched enough to know if Kelsey is another Missy which would enable a partner like him, making it an unhealthy dynamic to bring a child up in.

Missy is in no way controlled by Bryan. If anything, he's controlled by a desperate need to finally please her.

I see what you're saying though, but think Corbin is more like Missy in this way than Bryan.

[HashtagBlessed]

I'm surprised more people aren't mad about them going to the theater with a baby! Sure, they were pretty much alone, but just because they figured there wouldn't be many people doesn't mean they KNEW there would be. Would they have gone home if there were a lot of people? Probably not. June is too young to be out, especially to a MOVIE! Damn if that theater isn't gorgeous, though...

"Remember when we went to Dublin, my love?" Nooo, your wife would totally forget going to Ireland, little humble bragger. And I so cringed when he called her my love...I have hated it since day one! It just sounds so unnatural for him.

Does anyone else get the vibe that Corbon Footprint is a subversive control freak? I've only watch less than a dozen vlogs but there's an under current in his personality and him being a try_hard 'my love' charmer. Along with his reaction to the 'hater' comments (his face went red several times he was so angry but acting calm and 'nice'). I just get a controlling vibe from him. I haven't watched enough to know if Kelsey is another Missy which would enable a partner like him, making it an unhealthy dynamic to bring a child up in.

I definitely got the controlling asshole vibe from him when he bragged about yelling and cursing at the customer service representative, and Kelsey just sort of giggled. I can't imagine a grown man yelling and cursing at a woman over the phone unless he's a colossal asshole. I certainly wouldn't laugh about it if my husband did that. It was almost like a nervous laugh. And his parents seem like very thoughtful and nice people, and the fact that he has such a strained relationship with them is a red flag for me. I don't know that I would date someone who didn't have a close relationship with his parents, unless there were extenuating circumstances.

But I also get the impression Kelsey is losing her temper with him off camera when it comes to taking care of their daughter. I think she relies on him a lot and she is going to be pushing a lot of the baby responsibilities on to him as well. We know she's never really held down a full-time job before, but she also seems to rely on him to do the shopping and the household chores. When was the last time she did anything on her own? Like, even just run errands or meet up with friends? I can't tell if she's helpless and isolated because he's a control freak, or if she's just supremely lazy. I still can't figure out what she did all day when she wasn't working.

[ewokfan11]

I agree that he's controlling. I think moving to Portland (and that specific neighborhood) was all his idea. I could see Kelsey wanting to live closer to family and friends, but Corbin probably nixed the idea. Now that her mom and Missy are gone, she has no support other than Corbin (and I really don't think he's much help).

Someone earlier said JHouse vlogs had a better transition with their new daughter. Yes, they do have other kids for experience, but they also had grandparents staying an extended period of time and church friends are still bringing them meals!

It was nice that Kelsey's dad came to visit, but where's Corbin's family? I would think more friends and family would want to see June. They do seem very isolated.

[ohaudrey]

Didn't they both go to college in Portland? It's a red flag that a year later they don't have any friends left there.

[lmmomSD]

Didn't they both go to college in Portland? It's a red flag that a year later they don't have any friends left there.

They got married in Portland. Where are all their wedding friends? For example, I haven't lived in the Bay Area for years, but I am still in close touch with my friends. If I moved back and needed help, or just companionship, they would be there for me. So weird that all their friends have vanished except for Missy.

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[melonyogloo]

Corbin went to Chapman University in Orange, CA.
Kelsey went to Southern Oregon University in Ashland, OR.
They got married in Medford, OR.

[HelloSweetie]

Missy and Bryan move away from Bryan's family... Bryan is controlling.

Corbin and Kelsey move away from Kelsey's family...Corbin is controlling.

Same scenario, but somehow it's always the douchey male that is somehow controlling and not the female.

I don't think Kelsey is a victim of a controlling spouse. I think she willingly went where Corbin had work because she had no intention of working herself. I get the impression the two just prefer to be alone for some reason. Probably because they think there is glamour in their adventures. Too bad the reality of real life adulthood is starting to hit them!

[ewokfan11]

Didn't they both go to college in Portland? It's a red flag that a year later they don't have any friends left there.

They got married in Portland. Where are all their wedding friends? For example, I haven't lived in the Bay Area for years, but I am still in close touch with my friends. If I moved back and needed help, or just companionship, they would be there for me. So weird that all their friends have vanished except for Missy.

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NOPE!! They didn't go to college or get married in Portland. They were living in Southern Oregon (Medford area - about a 5-hour drive from Portland) and that's where Kelsey was going to college, Corbin worked at a tiny news station and they got married there. Corbin moved to Portland alone for a new job (neither of them had even been to Portland before they moved there) - and he quit that job after about two weeks. Kelsey stayed in Southern Oregon until she finished her degree. She then moved to Portland, they planned their van trip and left. They never seemed to have full-time work in Portland and they never vlogged hanging out with any friends.

Here's douchey Corbin explaining why he quit his job. Yes, Corbin, JOBS ARE HARD - especially when it's a new job!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaZMCOg73ow

[alyssadt]

Corbin went to Chapman University in Orange, CA.
Kelsey went to Southern Oregon University in Ashland, OR.
They got married in Medford, OR.

How TF did Corbin ever get into chapman? He does not strike me as very educated at all.


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[fossilfinger]

I just thought of something. Since I doubt K & C are going to use birth control besides their own version of NFP, I have to wonder how soon Kelsey will get pregnant again. I am guessing it will be by the end of 2018, but could even be toward the end of this year. Although they seem stressed and overwhelmed about being first-time parents, is it enough for them to prevent pregnancy? Or will there be a "we-didn't-expect-to-get-pregnant-while-breastfeeding" baby on the way in six months?

[lmmomSD]

Didn't they both go to college in Portland? It's a red flag that a year later they don't have any friends left there.

They got married in Portland. Where are all their wedding friends? For example, I haven't lived in the Bay Area for years, but I am still in close touch with my friends. If I moved back and needed help, or just companionship, they would be there for me. So weird that all their friends have vanished except for Missy.

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NOPE!! They didn't go to college or get married in Portland. They were living in Southern Oregon (Medford area - about a 5-hour drive from Portland) and that's where Kelsey was going to college, Corbin worked at a tiny news station and they got married there. Corbin moved to Portland alone for a new job (neither of them had even been to Portland before they moved there) - and he quit that job after about two weeks. Kelsey stayed in Southern Oregon until she finished her degree. She then moved to Portland, they planned their van trip and left. They never seemed to have full-time work in Portland and they never vlogged hanging out with any friends.

Here's douchey Corbin explaining why he quit his job. Yes, Corbin, JOBS ARE HARD - especially when it's a new job!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaZMCOg73ow

Thanks so much for the clarification! I couldn't bear to go back and try and find the scoop.

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[tintin15]

I just thought of something. Since I doubt K & C are going to use birth control besides their own version of NFP, I have to wonder how soon Kelsey will get pregnant again. I am guessing it will be by the end of 2018, but could even be toward the end of this year. Although they seem stressed and overwhelmed about being first-time parents, is it enough for them to prevent pregnancy? Or will there be a "we-didn't-expect-to-get-pregnant-while-breastfeeding" baby on the way in six months?

Is that how they got June!? Do they not use birth control? If that's the case, no wonder they don't seem thrilled with her...I doubt they REALLY wanted a child.

[marshmallowfluf]

I think they wanted a kid sometime soon but i do think they were pissed that their van trip got cut short.


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[luci417]

I just thought of something. Since I doubt K & C are going to use birth control besides their own version of NFP, I have to wonder how soon Kelsey will get pregnant again. I am guessing it will be by the end of 2018, but could even be toward the end of this year. Although they seem stressed and overwhelmed about being first-time parents, is it enough for them to prevent pregnancy? Or will there be a "we-didn't-expect-to-get-pregnant-while-breastfeeding" baby on the way in six months?

Is that how they got June!? Do they not use birth control? If that's the case, no wonder they don't seem thrilled with her...I doubt they REALLY wanted a child.

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Yeah, they were using 'natural' birth control by monitoring Kelsey's cycle and not having sex when she was ovulating..but obviously because these two were involved they screwed it up and she got pregnant. I think they tried to spin if after that they were 'not trying but not preventing' but honestly it really seems like June was a total accident because they underestimated the need for real birth control. I don't understand how they ever thought that would be a reliable method without some kind of test, (like those ovulation predictors you can get for people who are ttc?) because most women's cycles aren't exactly 28 days every single month so it's not as simple as just counting 4 weeks off on a calendar.

Didn't they both go to college in Portland? It's a red flag that a year later they don't have any friends left there.

I know people have said they weren't in portland for college but I can't remember them mentioning any close friends apart from Bryan and Missy. You'd think more people would have sent them a card or a little gift since it's their first baby, or at least skyped them to meet June and see how they're adjusting - they seem like the type who would vlog all of that and yet...nothing. They even seemed kind of annoyed by Missy being there even though she was doing a lot for them. That to me is a red flag.

[luci417]

I just thought of something. Since I doubt K & C are going to use birth control besides their own version of NFP, I have to wonder how soon Kelsey will get pregnant again. I am guessing it will be by the end of 2018, but could even be toward the end of this year. Although they seem stressed and overwhelmed about being first-time parents, is it enough for them to prevent pregnancy? Or will there be a "we-didn't-expect-to-get-pregnant-while-breastfeeding" baby on the way in six months?

Is that how they got June!? Do they not use birth control? If that's the case, no wonder they don't seem thrilled with her...I doubt they REALLY wanted a child.

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Yeah, they were using 'natural' birth control by monitoring Kelsey's cycle and not having sex when she was ovulating..but obviously because these two were involved they screwed it up and she got pregnant. I think they tried to spin if after that they were 'not trying but not preventing' but honestly it really seems like June was a total accident because they underestimated the need for real birth control. I don't understand how they ever thought that would be a reliable method without some kind of test, (like those ovulation predictors you can get for people who are ttc?) because most women's cycles aren't exactly 28 days every single month so it's not as simple as just counting 4 weeks off on a calendar.

Didn't they both go to college in Portland? It's a red flag that a year later they don't have any friends left there.

I know people have said they weren't in portland for college but I can't remember them mentioning any close friends apart from Bryan and Missy. You'd think more people would have sent them a card or a little gift since it's their first baby, or at least skyped them to meet June and see how they're adjusting - they seem like the type who would vlog all of that and yet...nothing. They even seemed kind of annoyed by Missy being there even though she was doing a lot for them. That to me is a red flag.

[ewokfan11]

Thanks so much for the clarification! I couldn't bear to go back and try and find the scoop.

I was actually curious about their life before I started watching them - the van trip - so I binge-watched a lot of their older vlogs one weekend. It's pretty obvious they wanted to be the next DBs from the start, but they just don't have the personalities for it. Their old vlogs were REALLY boring!

[lmmomSD]

I just thought of something. Since I doubt K & C are going to use birth control besides their own version of NFP, I have to wonder how soon Kelsey will get pregnant again. I am guessing it will be by the end of 2018, but could even be toward the end of this year. Although they seem stressed and overwhelmed about being first-time parents, is it enough for them to prevent pregnancy? Or will there be a "we-didn't-expect-to-get-pregnant-while-breastfeeding" baby on the way in six months?

Is that how they got June!? Do they not use birth control? If that's the case, no wonder they don't seem thrilled with her...I doubt they REALLY wanted a child.

I mean, unless you're tracking your basal temperature every day, or something like that, you're not going to have much luck. Their "excuse" was that they were planning on trying at the end of the van trip, but didn't realize that they would get pregnant so quickly. Which makes me really side eye their decision making. If you're not preventing, I'm sorry-- you're trying. "Not trying not preventing" is just a silly way of saying you're trying.
Or maybe they're stupid enough to believe those scenes in movies where women take their temperature in the middle of the day and say "my temperature is right! We need to have sex now!" Nope, not how it works...
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[tintin15]

I think they wanted a kid sometime soon but i do think they were pissed that their van trip got cut short.


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That's what I was thinking. They seemed pretty set on going all over...didn't they go to, like, a handful of states before they found out she was pregnant? lol they definitely seemed like they wouldn't even have a kid until after their little adventure

Which is why they should have been using some sort of birth control...I think they mentioned that they were going to keep traveling while she was pregnant, but they quit pretty early on. It's clear they wanted to stay in the van.

[jmcle]

OK, after reading for awhile I'm joining you guys on here. They have become really hard to watch since June was born. Couple of things I have noticed from watching them the last few months.

1. They do not leave Paris alone in the apartment. They take him everywhere. There's a vlog where they enroll Paris in doggy daycare a couple of months ago and it was a huge deal to Kelsey. She was very nervous about it. People asked in the comments and she pretty much said they don't leave him alone ever. They also said some judgey comment about having to consider the emotional needs of a dog (aka leaving him alone is mean??) Especially now with June they will struggle to take Paris with them everywhere. My dog is home alone 10 hours a day because I work. She's plenty happy because I walk her when I get home, give her attention and once a week she's at a doggy daycare. My guess is Paris has separation anxiety issues, which my dog also had bad when I rescued her. Invest your money in a good positive reinforcement trainer, not expensive doggy daycare!

2. Corbin is not unique at all with the call me Papa crap. Hipster dads from Brooklyn to Austin to Portland are all jumping on the call me papa wagon. He's so full of himself. Little June is already a shock to them. They are being forced to prioritize her, crazy! Here's an article on the papa stuff if anyone is interested. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -papa.html

[storeynyx]

I just thought of something. Since I doubt K & C are going to use birth control besides their own version of NFP, I have to wonder how soon Kelsey will get pregnant again. I am guessing it will be by the end of 2018, but could even be toward the end of this year. Although they seem stressed and overwhelmed about being first-time parents, is it enough for them to prevent pregnancy? Or will there be a "we-didn't-expect-to-get-pregnant-while-breastfeeding" baby on the way in six months?

Is that how they got June!? Do they not use birth control? If that's the case, no wonder they don't seem thrilled with her...I doubt they REALLY wanted a child.

I mean, unless you're tracking your basal temperature every day, or something like that, you're not going to have much luck. Their "excuse" was that they were planning on trying at the end of the van trip, but didn't realize that they would get pregnant so quickly. Which makes me really side eye their decision making. If you're not preventing, I'm sorry-- you're trying. "Not trying not preventing" is just a silly way of saying you're trying.
Or maybe they're stupid enough to believe those scenes in movies where women take their temperature in the middle of the day and say "my temperature is right! We need to have sex now!" Nope, not how it works...
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I'm not sure if I remember this correctly, but I think in one of the early pregnancy updates, they said K had irregular cycles anyway. Then it was a mix between "but you can still totally do NFP with irregular cycles" and "we thought it'd take a while to get pregnant because irregular cycles"


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