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honeybear wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:22 pm
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LittleButThere wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:17 pm I'm just going to say I am a SAHM with 2 kids. My husband works and brings home 48,000 a year after taxes.. we live in a 800sq foot home ImageImage I love my little life/house and we some how are still able to save money each paycheck while still having "fun money" and student loan debt. But daanngg would I love y'alls pay checks Imagejust being real here Image

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I hope this goes without saying but please know that as a SAHM you’re doing the most important job that someone can have in their entire life and your 800 square foot home doesn’t define you or how much love is in your family. Image Keep in mind my husband and I are in the same profession but our income is also relative to our area so while it sounds like a huge amount it also costs an equally huge amount to live where we do. Image Yes we have a nice home (and so do you!!!) and two vehicles we paid cash for but other than that I’m sitting in a work outfit that I’ve owned since 2012 because we don’t live lavishly and want to put our daughter through college in the very near future without going into debt. You’re doing just fine honey!
Sorry to derail the thread, but even though you weren't talking to me, I want to thank you. This was such a genuinely loving and encouraging comment and it was nice to see. The world needs more of this supportive language

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Hey derail away! Every SAHM or working mom here and everyone needs to know that what they do is important but the size of their home or paycheck isn’t. ❤️
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LittleButThere wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:17 pm I'm just going to say I am a SAHM with 2 kids. My husband works and brings home 48,000 a year after taxes.. we live in a 800sq foot home ImageImage I love my little life/house and we some how are still able to save money each paycheck while still having "fun money" and student loan debt. But daanngg would I love y'alls pay checks Imagejust being real here Image

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Same! I cant even imagine having $100,000 a year income. I am also SAHM and we make a little less than you do but we dont have a rent or mortgage payment. We do have a car payment and were almost out of paying debt which is primarily dr bills.
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What has happened the last few days. I’ve been a little out of touch being in Nashville and all...... I’m fine!!!! But this is my guilty pleasure and I need the gossip for my sanity!


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Lisbeth3 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:37 pm
snarkaholic wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:22 am
twomommies wrote:They're gonna have to replace everything down to sub flooring that the cats pee on. We had a house fire in October so you can't tell now, but before that you could see where my MIL let the cats just pee/spray freely all the way down into the wood and heater vents and the smell doesn't come out with scrubbing (we rented my boyfriend's parents house and it was a nightmare to price repairing cat damage)

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Yep, my parents have a rental property and one of the tenants had a cat and a small dog that they were too lazy to walk. Both animals peed and pooped everywhere. Once they moved out, it smelled disgusting. My parents ripped up the carpet and then realized they’d have to replace the subfloor too. It cost thousands of dollars that C&K don’t have, but nobody is going to buy a house that smells like that unless it’s WAY under market value.


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No offense to cat owners, but this is why I will never have a cat again. I like them and in turn I took in a rescue for a while. Thankfully she was an angel who did not make one bit of mess, but I really couldn't stand the litter. I find dogs to be more work but easier overall. My dog was the best. As long as they are walked and have pee pads (up to a certain size) for backup they create far less obnoxious bowel mess problems. Cats pee is also one of the most heinous, aggressive scents on earth. It is relentless. I also prefer tile floors in a kitchen because you don't have to worry about stinky odors from spills, they can be cleaned.

We have five cats. None of them pee anywhere but their box, which is cleaned 2-4 times a day. If their cats are peeing everywhere that is a sign of distress. They could have bladder stones, could be the lack of moist food, could be reacting to the cheap food they are given.
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Boymomma123 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:40 pm I am laughing hysterically over Katie's Instagram stories about sharing their meals because someone asked her about how she meal preps.

Girlfriend gives those kids bland pasta and cheese every damn night. Her excuse is they are picky and don't eat meat. You are the parent Katie put on your big girl panties and teach your kids how to eat better!

Quit buying all that junk from the Aldi haul so your kids have no other option but to eat the meals you cook. I will never understand parents who cook different meals for their kids. My kids started to get picky and I adapted and made changes. Her excuse is always "well things are so crazy around here". Grow the hell up and make your family a priority like everyone else does. Your life is crazy because you have made it that way.

Some people have real emergencies happening in their lives yet still find time to take care of their kids properly.



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Exactly! You don’t give in. My daughter has always eaten what we have and even at an age younger then Brooks and Gaines, she loved well rounded meals, still does.
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LittleButThere wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:17 pm I'm just going to say I am a SAHM with 2 kids. My husband works and brings home 48,000 a year after taxes.. we live in a 800sq foot home ImageImage I love my little life/house and we some how are still able to save money each paycheck while still having "fun money" and student loan debt. But daanngg would I love y'alls pay checks Imagejust being real here Image

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There is nothing wrong with that! My husband makes six figures, but we still live in a house that is under 1000 sq feet. I like not being house poor. I like being able to travel. I like that I am able to plan for retirement and college. I even like my house. It isn’t about the size, it is about the love that fills it.
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WatchinTheWreck wrote:
Boymomma123 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:40 pm I am laughing hysterically over Katie's Instagram stories about sharing their meals because someone asked her about how she meal preps.

Girlfriend gives those kids bland pasta and cheese every damn night. Her excuse is they are picky and don't eat meat. You are the parent Katie put on your big girl panties and teach your kids how to eat better!

Quit buying all that junk from the Aldi haul so your kids have no other option but to eat the meals you cook. I will never understand parents who cook different meals for their kids. My kids started to get picky and I adapted and made changes. Her excuse is always "well things are so crazy around here". Grow the hell up and make your family a priority like everyone else does. Your life is crazy because you have made it that way.

Some people have real emergencies happening in their lives yet still find time to take care of their kids properly.



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Exactly! You don’t give in. My daughter has always eaten what we have and even at an age younger then Brooks and Gaines, she loved well rounded meals, still does.
And Kelley was able to get her to eat broccoli. They did baby led weaning with both kids, then stopped feeding them vegetables. And they don't eat with the kids. They feed them mac and cheese and chicken nuggets, and fix their own dinner later. We always ate with our kids, and they ate what we did once they could.
It's another example of their laziness. Won't argue with Gaines.

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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:30 pm
Catface2 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:16 pm She actually bought all that complete junk food and was proud! WTAF?! Girlfriend needs some lessons on basic home economics. Did her mom teach her nothing about cooking, menu planning..basic nutrition? Omg! I’m shook!


Even if Dolly did Katie wouldn’t listen ... by her own admission her parents taught her about money yet with all her superior knowledge here they are....
Katie really only cares about Katie. She got her almond milk for her smoothies so she really doesn’t care what the rest of them eat.
And she got ice cream, pringles and pretzels for Gaines
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sillchar44 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:24 pm I still don't understand why they're not getting full time jobs? My husband makes a little over 200k and always picks up overtime shifts because he can't stand sitting at home all day. These two have the worst work ethic I have ever seen.
I think they are gambling on YT/SM because Cullen can't find work and he's likely never made more than $50K a year in his 9-5. He doesn't have a college degree and he's been laid off (or fired) twice.

Katie could potentially make more, but I don't think she gives AF about working. I think she expects Cullen to be the breadwinner—like her father (a doctor) and Jay (a lawyer). Cullen will never make that much.

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lovingthisforum wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:43 am
FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:30 pm
Catface2 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:16 pm She actually bought all that complete junk food and was proud! WTAF?! Girlfriend needs some lessons on basic home economics. Did her mom teach her nothing about cooking, menu planning..basic nutrition? Omg! I’m shook!


Even if Dolly did Katie wouldn’t listen ... by her own admission her parents taught her about money yet with all her superior knowledge here they are....
Katie really only cares about Katie. She got her almond milk for her smoothies so she really doesn’t care what the rest of them eat.
And she got ice cream, pringles and pretzels for Gaines
To be fair, pretzels aren't exactly the worst food. Plus, Aldi is a German company, so most of their "junk" food is actually healthier than the American version. She also bought fruits and veg.

Yes, they bought some snacks, but EVERYONE does. I was at Aldi today and bought paczkis! They are a treat we only get once a year—because they only sell them once a year. I don't think buying snacks is that terrible. Have you seen what they eat at the beach house with her parents???? That's WAY more junk food than Katie bought and what she bought can last several months.
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lmmomSD wrote:
WatchinTheWreck wrote:
Boymomma123 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:40 pm I am laughing hysterically over Katie's Instagram stories about sharing their meals because someone asked her about how she meal preps.

Girlfriend gives those kids bland pasta and cheese every damn night. Her excuse is they are picky and don't eat meat. You are the parent Katie put on your big girl panties and teach your kids how to eat better!

Quit buying all that junk from the Aldi haul so your kids have no other option but to eat the meals you cook. I will never understand parents who cook different meals for their kids. My kids started to get picky and I adapted and made changes. Her excuse is always "well things are so crazy around here". Grow the hell up and make your family a priority like everyone else does. Your life is crazy because you have made it that way.

Some people have real emergencies happening in their lives yet still find time to take care of their kids properly.



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Exactly! You don’t give in. My daughter has always eaten what we have and even at an age younger then Brooks and Gaines, she loved well rounded meals, still does.
And Kelley was able to get her to eat broccoli. They did baby led weaning with both kids, then stopped feeding them vegetables. And they don't eat with the kids. They feed them mac and cheese and chicken nuggets, and fix their own dinner later. We always ate with our kids, and they ate what we did once they could.
It's another example of their laziness. Won't argue with Gaines.

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Eating with your kids is so important. You eat by example, you teach the art of conversation, when they are older you can find out what’s going on in their lives. It’s a family bonding time.
Plus I am not a short order cook so what I make is what you get. Now my son abhorred broccoli so I did not make it much. Once he went to college we ate it all of the time.
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But if your kids refuse to eat basic meals that most other kids will at least try then you don't buy snack foods for them. My oldest became extremely picky to the point of just not eating at meal times. I stopped allowing him to snack throughout the day on things like pretzels, fruit snacks and cheese its. Then by some miracle (sarcasm) he was actually hungry at meal times and was more willing to try different foods because he was actually hungry! Katie has said herself the kids get I the pantry and get snacks during the day. They are most likely full at dinner and they are like any kids of course they would rather eat junk instead of healthier options. She could at least give them some short cut carrots and cucumbers in place of goldfish or cheese puffs. Obviously I don't think it is evil to buy snacks or have them but they are the parents. You can't just let your kids rule the house like theirs or at least Gaines does. They are lazy parents, who let their kids eat noodles and cheese every night and then give them ice cream? Yet she went to school for child psychology?

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rosie_dalia wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:05 am
lovingthisforum wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:43 am
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Even if Dolly did Katie wouldn’t listen ... by her own admission her parents taught her about money yet with all her superior knowledge here they are....
Katie really only cares about Katie. She got her almond milk for her smoothies so she really doesn’t care what the rest of them eat.
And she got ice cream, pringles and pretzels for Gaines
To be fair, pretzels aren't exactly the worst food. Plus, Aldi is a German company, so most of their "junk" food is actually healthier than the American version. She also bought fruits and veg.

Yes, they bought some snacks, but EVERYONE does. I was at Aldi today and bought paczkis! They are a treat we only get once a year—because they only sell them once a year. I don't think buying snacks is that terrible. Have you seen what they eat at the beach house with her parents???? That's WAY more junk food than Katie bought and what she bought can last several months.
I think you missed the point, it wasn't about healthy food, but about Katie (and in extension Gaines) taking good care of herself and making sure she doesn't come anything short: no sacrifices for her or Gaines in this debt-free journey. It's more the journey itself that's a disaster.

I know what the Aldi is, I am European, and pretzels are unhealthy actually, they were baked in transfats (the most dangerous) and I am literally eating them at this very moment!! I bought them yesterday in the Lidl, another German 'cheap' chain, introduced by a Belgian billionaire in yet another country where I live. I am also eating cheese cookies at this moment, the ones with creamy cheese in between fine waver layers, you know them?
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So the whole get current coloring page was BS if they didn't include the thousands they owe the IRS from 2016. I think that would have been a priority.
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Can we stop with the Aldi love? Snacks are snacks whether you pay $20 for them or $40. Katie feeds her kids snacks, noodles with cheese, chicken nuggets and ranch dressing with a bit of lettuce EVERY DAY. She says they have fruit after dinner, and that she doesn’t give it to them before because then they won’t eat their dinner. Then give it to them as a snack! It doesn’t matter where she buys this stuff, it is not healthy at all for a child to eat chicken nuggets, Mac and Cheese and salty snacks every day. That’s a lot of sodium for a small child. Yes kids are picky, I happen to have a 5 year old myself that’s is unbelievably picky, but I’m the parent and it’s my job to make sure he has a well balanced diet even if his complaining kills me.

Snacks are not meals. Aldi is irrelevant. The diet would be criticized whether they were cheap about it or not.

Also, this board has gotten a bit OT lately with people justifying their own purchases and I would like to point out that we are snarking on the TOTAL COMBINATION of decisions C&K have made to get into this mess. There is no need to get defensive if you get grocery delivery, have your kids in daycare, work from home, have an Amazon Prime membership, if you have an expensive car or home, or like to buy pretzels from Aldi. We do not know you story, but we do know C&K’s and know they cannot afford to do ALL these things. We know they don’t have a savings. We know they have a significant deficit. We know they don’t bring in enough money to support their lifestyle (even scaled back) and we know they aren’t following Dave Ramsey as strictly as they need to be. They have no savings for retirement, and no school savings for the kids. Any unexpected emergency they are unprepared to handle without credit. Hence the feedback they need to cut back.

It is assumed that if you choose to do some of these things, you are balancing somewhere else. The snark is on the mess C&K’s have created and that’s all.


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HelloSweetie wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:57 am Can we stop with the Aldi love? Snacks are snacks whether you pay $20 for them or $40. Katie feeds her kids snacks, noodles with cheese, chicken nuggets and ranch dressing with a bit of lettuce EVERY DAY. She says they have fruit after dinner, and that she doesn’t give it to them before because then they won’t eat their dinner. Then give it to them as a snack! It doesn’t matter where she buys this stuff, it is not healthy at all for a child to eat chicken nuggets, Mac and Cheese and salty snacks every day. That’s a lot of sodium for a small child. Yes kids are picky, I happen to have a 5 year old myself that’s is unbelievably picky, but I’m the parent and it’s my job to make sure he has a well balanced diet even if his complaining kills me.

Snacks are not meals. Aldi is irrelevant. The diet would be criticized whether they were cheap about it or not.
I have been reading about how to get kids to eat balanced meals and how to not let snacking dominate. Most nutritionists agree that if kids are really picky, parents can serve some of their kids' favorites in the same meal as new foods. Serving it over and over and not putting pressure on kids to eat it may lead to them eventually trying it. Meals should be balanced even if parents know the kids won't eat it. If the food isn't on their plate, the kid will never eat it. If it is on their plate, they may reject it 20 times, but then try some of it. Snacks should be like mini-meals, not just sugary/salty treats - so a peanut butter sandwich, for example.

Cullen and Katie could save money by serving balanced meals and offering leftovers from the meals as snacks. So if the kids don't eat broccoli at dinner, save it until snack. Serve them a few goldfish crackers and some broccoli for snack. Over time, reduce the amount of goldfish crackers and up the amount of veggies in the snack. Stop making meals especially for the kids, but still include some of their favorites so they can all have the same meals. There will be less food waste.
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fossilfinger wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:33 am
HelloSweetie wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:57 am Can we stop with the Aldi love? Snacks are snacks whether you pay $20 for them or $40. Katie feeds her kids snacks, noodles with cheese, chicken nuggets and ranch dressing with a bit of lettuce EVERY DAY. She says they have fruit after dinner, and that she doesn’t give it to them before because then they won’t eat their dinner. Then give it to them as a snack! It doesn’t matter where she buys this stuff, it is not healthy at all for a child to eat chicken nuggets, Mac and Cheese and salty snacks every day. That’s a lot of sodium for a small child. Yes kids are picky, I happen to have a 5 year old myself that’s is unbelievably picky, but I’m the parent and it’s my job to make sure he has a well balanced diet even if his complaining kills me.

Snacks are not meals. Aldi is irrelevant. The diet would be criticized whether they were cheap about it or not.
I have been reading about how to get kids to eat balanced meals and how to not let snacking dominate. Most nutritionists agree that if kids are really picky, parents can serve some of their kids' favorites in the same meal as new foods. Serving it over and over and not putting pressure on kids to eat it may lead to them eventually trying it. Meals should be balanced even if parents know the kids won't eat it. If the food isn't on their plate, the kid will never eat it. If it is on their plate, they may reject it 20 times, but then try some of it. Snacks should be like mini-meals, not just sugary/salty treats - so a peanut butter sandwich, for example.

Cullen and Katie could save money by serving balanced meals and offering leftovers from the meals as snacks. So if the kids don't eat broccoli at dinner, save it until snack. Serve them a few goldfish crackers and some broccoli for snack. Over time, reduce the amount of goldfish crackers and up the amount of veggies in the snack. Stop making meals especially for the kids, but still include some of their favorites so they can all have the same meals. There will be less food waste.
Im not even sure their kids are actually that picky, they just prefer snacky foods and know C&K will give in...Kelly was able to get Gaines to eat food that Katie swore she would never eat.
Those kids know their parents, they know theyre lazy and Gaines especially knows she runs the show.
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If Katie and Cullen don’t have the mental capacity to do basic financial planning, I think odds are they aren’t putting effort into the complex responsibility of raising children. They have shown time and again that they find the path of least resistance. Send the kids to an expensive daycare program they can’t afford rather than staggering their work schedules. Let the kids eat whatever they like because it cuts down on complaining. Let the kids stay up as late as they want. They were perfectly content monetizing the kids every day for public consumption until YouTube had to crack down on it. I think there is very little actual parenting going on over there. I think that's why they treat their son like he's such a "challenge"- they probably can't be bothered to do the work and be the parent.
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I wonder if they are going to get the appliances or just wait a while. They will probably end up getting a Lowe's credit card (are Lowe's everywhere in the U.S?) and purchase them that way.

If they were smart they would reach out to a local company to help with some renovations in return for advertising.

I don't I think there is definitely something wrong with the house because it sounds like they have not even gotten any offers. Or maybe they have and it was too below the listing price for them to consider.

Appliances just seem like a stupid thing to use as a deciding factor when picking a house. I mean obviously brand new ones would be a bonus but not a deal breaker. There has got to be something else that is deterring people.

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In my experience of selling our homes I really don't think a new wall oven, range and dishwasher will sell that house. The fridge is already newer so it wouldn't need to be replaced. That house is such an awkward layout, its dated overall and just gives off a "nobody cares about me" kind of vibe from the photos. With their issue cleaning up after their pets (and themselves) Im sure it doesn't smell great, the yard is less then great and the curb appeal sucks. When you compare other homes in their neighbourhood that are for sale/recently sold its no surprise that theirs hasn't.
I really do think they're going to need to take a substantial loss at this point on the house if they have to sell it now. If I were them I would sell the suburban (I know, beating a dead horse with that) and take that money and put it towards the mortgage payment. They wont be getting out of debt any time soon but they would be able to stay put a couple more years, build some equity so while theyre still likely going to sell at a loss they would walk away with some cash and slowly chip away at debt in the meantime. A couple more years wont make much difference in the quality of the house, its already pretty dated. They could drastically change their lifestyle (no more daycare!! & get second jobs) and put even more towards debt and make some smaller upgrades (that stupid mismatched half bath) while they pay down some of the mortgage. If they sell now theres almost no way they wont have to bring cash to closing, and they don't have the funds to do that.
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