DailyStagedAndConfused (Part 90)

[tintin15]

Bee stings are a little painful. I've been stung by a yellow jacket at 8 or 9 and it hurt a bit, but I dealt with it (especially bc it was at camp and when I tried to tell my counselor, she told me to go away because she was having the "accept Jesus" talk with another camper). For a 4 year old it's a little scary, just as all pain is for a 4 year old, but B&M hyped it up too much. Kids forget about pain in five minutes or less. They didn't have to keep bringing it up.

Also, the toy was inappropriate. I don't care if it was free or expensive. Pain is a part of life and you can't expect to get something when you get a boo boo. If Ollie grows up thinking you get things for pain or that big things help pain, that's going to be a problem. When we're grieving, heartbroken, horribly injured...are material things a band-aid or a cure? They're a band-aid. They make us happy and help for the time, but they don't make us better. A sucker or an ice cream or what have you is one thing, as it's a reasonable comfort. A big, expensive toy is going to start unhealthy patterns. Say they're still rich in 10-15 years. What's Ollie going to do when a girlfriend breaks up with him? Probably buy a freaking car or something. It's going to start a bad need for instant gratification.

I'm not saying this one incident is going to send him in a downward spiral, but wouldn't be surprised if they start giving him things after every scrape, boo boo, and sad moment.

Also, I don't think Ollie has autism. But I do think he is violent. And having my and other's opinions talked about like they're stupid or guaranteed false is a bit offensive...we don't know whether he'll be a brat or an angel in school. It's ok to think either thing, but let's not act like the people we don't agree with are idiots.

[cat9480]

Bryan seemed borderline gleeful that Ollie was stung and he has something to vlog...and an easy i card link to Missy's sting Glad Missy figured out to get he stinger out (but you are supposed to scrape it out, not pull it! Sigh.) and get ice on it - she's learning! Although, why did she feel the need to say she hoped he didn't get a reaction like she did? Right in front of him? On one hand, the poor kid has Missy dramatizing things (didn't she say something like "agony for two days") and making him anticipate pain that might not even happen...and on the other hand, he has Bryan saying it's really not that bad, you're ok! I mean, of course it hurts and it was scary to a little kid. No need to blow things out of proportion, but Bryan could at least validate Ollie's feelings. Bryan and Missy are on such opposite ends of the spectrum with how they deal with these things - Missy hypes it up while Bryan tells him it's not that bad. I'm sure it's confusing for him.

And I am not against giving a kid a little treat after having a rough day, but of course Bryan whips out a big present to make Ollie feel better. Those kids are going to have no coping skills if they get a new toy for every life event, good or bad. If this were a rare treat because he was feeling crummy from a bee sting, I wouldn't judge...but treats and bribes are Missy and Bryan's solution t everything! It's easy now, but there's going to come a day where presents can't fix everything and Ollie and Finn have never learned how to deal.

I guess this is why he told Bryan to go away while Mimi and Papa stayed with him. Pretty sure I wouldn't want a camera shoved in my face during my first bee sting, either. Out of the mouths of babes....

EDIT: Just realized there are 4 pages of posts I didn't read...apologies if I just repeated everything others have posted!

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[whys0seri0us]

All I'm mad about is when they were showing the cookies Bryan kept SNATCHING them from missy!! If I were her I'd be super annoyed at him, and treat him the same way she does! And omg, did y'all notice that when they were looking at the toy, every time Bryan tried to touch it you can see Ollie SLAPPING his hand!!! Wth

It's sad that he is even showing violent tendencies with his parents and they don't correct him. If my kids had slapped my hand away from a new toy i just gave them, the toy would go in time out for awhile. If you act that way you don't get fun new toys to play with. This sort of behavior will be what gets him in trouble at school. If he thinks hitting his parents is acceptable, he WILL be hitting students and teachers. He hits everyone, people he's just met, friends, his parents, his brother, the dogs... and is never EVER corrected.

Both Ollie AND M&B will have a huge wake up call when Ollie gets in trouble at school for hitting... and M&B will probably vlog about it and blame the other kid saying Ollie just defended himself because king Ollie does no wrong ever

Yea that's not what happened at all. I swear you guys don't even watch.

Ollie was trying to stick his finger in the try me whole and press the button and Bryan kept trying to move his hand to show he toy off.


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[whys0seri0us]

All I'm mad about is when they were showing the cookies Bryan kept SNATCHING them from missy!! If I were her I'd be super annoyed at him, and treat him the same way she does! And omg, did y'all notice that when they were looking at the toy, every time Bryan tried to touch it you can see Ollie SLAPPING his hand!!! Wth

It's sad that he is even showing violent tendencies with his parents and they don't correct him. If my kids had slapped my hand away from a new toy i just gave them, the toy would go in time out for awhile. If you act that way you don't get fun new toys to play with. This sort of behavior will be what gets him in trouble at school. If he thinks hitting his parents is acceptable, he WILL be hitting students and teachers. He hits everyone, people he's just met, friends, his parents, his brother, the dogs... and is never EVER corrected.

Both Ollie AND M&B will have a huge wake up call when Ollie gets in trouble at school for hitting... and M&B will probably vlog about it and blame the other kid saying Ollie just defended himself because king Ollie does no wrong ever

Yea that's not what happened at all. I swear you guys don't even watch.

Ollie was trying to stick his finger in the try me whole and press the button and Bryan kept trying to move his hand to show he toy off.


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[whys0seri0us]

Bee stings are a little painful. I've been stung by a yellow jacket at 8 or 9 and it hurt a bit, but I dealt with it (especially bc it was at camp and when I tried to tell my counselor, she told me to go away because she was having the "accept Jesus" talk with another camper). For a 4 year old it's a little scary, just as all pain is for a 4 year old, but B&M hyped it up too much. Kids forget about pain in five minutes or less. They didn't have to keep bringing it up.

Also, the toy was inappropriate. I don't care if it was free or expensive. Pain is a part of life and you can't expect to get something when you get a boo boo. If Ollie grows up thinking you get things for pain or that big things help pain, that's going to be a problem. When we're grieving, heartbroken, horribly injured...are material things a band-aid or a cure? They're a band-aid. They make us happy and help for the time, but they don't make us better. A sucker or an ice cream or what have you is one thing, as it's a reasonable comfort. A big, expensive toy is going to start unhealthy patterns. Say they're still rich in 10-15 years. What's Ollie going to do when a girlfriend breaks up with him? Probably buy a freaking car or something. It's going to start a bad need for instant gratification.

I'm not saying this one incident is going to send him in a downward spiral, but wouldn't be surprised if they start giving him things after every scrape, boo boo, and sad moment.

Also, I don't think Ollie has autism. But I do think he is violent. And having my and other's opinions talked about like they're stupid or guaranteed false is a bit offensive...we don't know whether he'll be a brat or an angel in school. It's ok to think either thing, but let's not act like the people we don't agree with are idiots.

You're calling a 4 year old violent and a brat and you're offended because some people think your opinion is ridiculous?


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[cat9480]

He was already pretty calm when Bryan pulled the camera out. They could have calmed him down even more after that, but they did everything they could to hype him up and get the reaction they wanted for the camera.

I think he brought that toy out partly to be the cool dad and to buy Ollie's love. He said they needed a distraction from the sting...but Ollie had also just told Bryan he had to leave and Mimi and Papa should stay. Presents = love in Bryan's world, and I think this was a bit of a reaction to what Ollie said.


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[whys0seri0us]

He was already pretty calm when Bryan pulled the camera out. They could have calmed him down even more after that, but they did everything they could to hype him up and get the reaction they wanted for the camera.

I think he brought that toy out partly to be the cool dad and to buy Ollie's love. He said they needed a distraction from the sting...but Ollie had also just told Bryan he had to leave and Mimi and Papa should stay. Presents = love in Bryan's world, and I think this was a bit of a reaction to what Ollie said.


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I didn't even think of that. Bryan for sure buys Ollies love, which is sad. I don't think he knows how to show it any other way.




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[tintin15]

Bee stings are a little painful. I've been stung by a yellow jacket at 8 or 9 and it hurt a bit, but I dealt with it (especially bc it was at camp and when I tried to tell my counselor, she told me to go away because she was having the "accept Jesus" talk with another camper). For a 4 year old it's a little scary, just as all pain is for a 4 year old, but B&M hyped it up too much. Kids forget about pain in five minutes or less. They didn't have to keep bringing it up.

Also, the toy was inappropriate. I don't care if it was free or expensive. Pain is a part of life and you can't expect to get something when you get a boo boo. If Ollie grows up thinking you get things for pain or that big things help pain, that's going to be a problem. When we're grieving, heartbroken, horribly injured...are material things a band-aid or a cure? They're a band-aid. They make us happy and help for the time, but they don't make us better. A sucker or an ice cream or what have you is one thing, as it's a reasonable comfort. A big, expensive toy is going to start unhealthy patterns. Say they're still rich in 10-15 years. What's Ollie going to do when a girlfriend breaks up with him? Probably buy a freaking car or something. It's going to start a bad need for instant gratification.

I'm not saying this one incident is going to send him in a downward spiral, but wouldn't be surprised if they start giving him things after every scrape, boo boo, and sad moment.

Also, I don't think Ollie has autism. But I do think he is violent. And having my and other's opinions talked about like they're stupid or guaranteed false is a bit offensive...we don't know whether he'll be a brat or an angel in school. It's ok to think either thing, but let's not act like the people we don't agree with are idiots.

You're calling a 4 year old violent and a brat and you're offended because some people think your opinion is ridiculous?


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I didn't call him a brat. I said we don't know if he will BE a brat at school. Yes, I called him violent, but I'm not trying to say he should be institutionalized or something. He has a problem with hitting and spitting (actual spitting, not the raspberries) that needs to be addressed by his parents.

I'm not trying to be cruel and beat down a child here. I am just saying, I think he is a little violent and it worries me. It's an opinion, it's gossip. I'm not trying to hurt him or insult other people's opinions. He could very well be an angel at school, you could be right. I'm not outright offended either, it just is a little offensive to have people act like your opinion is flat out wrong and impossible...and wasn't referring to just my own opinion, but others' opinions, too.

[ewokfan11]

That Milk Bar gift from Fullscreen was comedy. $100+ in cookies and cake truffles for a family that LOVES junk food! Granted, they are seriously delicious, but B&M don't need more cookies and cake! I would imagine a fruit Edible Arrangement would rot and get thrown out....

[MommaLindsey2]

Bryan is a typical adult who grew up with nothing and comes into money. It is very common for parents who grew up with a childhood like his to spoil their children and "buy their love"

My dad did the same thing! He really "spoiled" my sister and I as kids and even now because he grew up with nothing and was 1 of 5 siblings. He used to get a baseball and nothing else for Christmas, so now his grown children get iPads Apple watches and other fairly expensive Christmas gifts. I try really hard not to act spoiled and live a pretty low income life. I grew up and I'm ok I'm sure Ollie and Finn will be too. I know bryan isn't going to be able to keep up this lavish lifestyle their entire lives.


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[HelloSweetie]

He was already pretty calm when Bryan pulled the camera out. They could have calmed him down even more after that, but they did everything they could to hype him up and get the reaction they wanted for the camera.

I think he brought that toy out partly to be the cool dad and to buy Ollie's love. He said they needed a distraction from the sting...but Ollie had also just told Bryan he had to leave and Mimi and Papa should stay. Presents = love in Bryan's world, and I think this was a bit of a reaction to what Ollie said.


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I didn't even think of that. Bryan for sure buys Ollies love, which is sad. I don't think he knows how to show it any other way.




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It's common for children to show a preference for some family members over others, I know my toddler is a mama's boy and it often hurts his dad's feelings. This is where I think Missy should be selling in and telling Ollie to be more polite and sensitive to his dad's (and others') feelings. She herself prefers Mimi and Papa though, so it's possible he's actually learned to dismiss his dad by example.

[cat9480]

I would imagine a fruit Edible Arrangement would rot and get thrown out....

Oh, they would never let all that good chicken food go to waste!


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[tintin15]

I would imagine a fruit Edible Arrangement would rot and get thrown out....

Oh, they would never let all that good chicken food go to waste!


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Yes! If any of the fruit had chocolate on it, they'd all suck the chocolate off and then throw it in a bowl as a salad for the chickens

[whys0seri0us]

I think he brought that toy out partly to be the cool dad and to buy Ollie's love. He said they needed a distraction from the sting...but Ollie had also just told Bryan he had to leave and Mimi and Papa should stay. Presents = love in Bryan's world, and I think this was a bit of a reaction to what Ollie said.


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I didn't even think of that. Bryan for sure buys Ollies love, which is sad. I don't think he knows how to show it any other way.




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It's common for children to show a preference for some family members over others, I know my toddler is a mama's boy and it often hurts his dad's feelings. This is where I think Missy should be selling in and telling Ollie to be more polite and sensitive to his dad's (and others') feelings. She herself prefers Mimi and Papa though, so it's possible he's actually learned to dismiss his dad by example.

Yea my son asks for his Nona all the time (because Nona does have rules )

I don't think it's something he learned, but the honest truth is, Bryan doesn't interact with Ollie unless the camera (or a camera) is on.


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[HelloSweetie]

I didn't even think of that. Bryan for sure buys Ollies love, which is sad. I don't think he knows how to show it any other way.




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It's common for children to show a preference for some family members over others, I know my toddler is a mama's boy and it often hurts his dad's feelings. This is where I think Missy should be selling in and telling Ollie to be more polite and sensitive to his dad's (and others') feelings. She herself prefers Mimi and Papa though, so it's possible he's actually learned to dismiss his dad by example.

Yea my son asks for his Nona all the time (because Nona does have rules )

I don't think it's something he learned, but the honest truth is, Bryan doesn't interact with Ollie unless the camera (or a camera) is on.


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And Missy does?

[luci417]

Also, the toy was inappropriate. I don't care if it was free or expensive. Pain is a part of life and you can't expect to get something when you get a boo boo. If Ollie grows up thinking you get things for pain or that big things help pain, that's going to be a problem. When we're grieving, heartbroken, horribly injured...are material things a band-aid or a cure? They're a band-aid. They make us happy and help for the time, but they don't make us better. A sucker or an ice cream or what have you is one thing, as it's a reasonable comfort. A big, expensive toy is going to start unhealthy patterns. Say they're still rich in 10-15 years. What's Ollie going to do when a girlfriend breaks up with him? Probably buy a freaking car or something. It's going to start a bad need for instant gratification.

Honestly I'd say a small toy (like, a dollar store toy), 15 minutes of ipad time, a movie, etc. is better than teaching your kids to comfort themselves with food. That shit clicks early and it's very hard to undo once that's your go to coping mechanism. It might seem silly but once you associate food with comfort, use it as a reward, etc. your relationship with food and eating starts to get kind of fucked up. I agree with you but I think it's important to recognise that's a super unhealthy pattern too.

[tintin15]

Also, the toy was inappropriate. I don't care if it was free or expensive. Pain is a part of life and you can't expect to get something when you get a boo boo. If Ollie grows up thinking you get things for pain or that big things help pain, that's going to be a problem. When we're grieving, heartbroken, horribly injured...are material things a band-aid or a cure? They're a band-aid. They make us happy and help for the time, but they don't make us better. A sucker or an ice cream or what have you is one thing, as it's a reasonable comfort. A big, expensive toy is going to start unhealthy patterns. Say they're still rich in 10-15 years. What's Ollie going to do when a girlfriend breaks up with him? Probably buy a freaking car or something. It's going to start a bad need for instant gratification.

Honestly I'd say a small toy (like, a dollar store toy), 15 minutes of ipad time, a movie, etc. is better than teaching your kids to comfort themselves with food. That shit clicks early and it's very hard to undo once that's your go to coping mechanism. It might seem silly but once you associate food with comfort, use it as a reward, etc. your relationship with food and eating starts to get kind of fucked up. I agree with you but I think it's important to recognise that's a super unhealthy pattern too.

Oh, yeah, I should have worded that differently! I meant lollipops or ice cream because they're smaller lol. I'd say the best idea, in my opinion, would definitely be to sit and watch the kid's favorite movie. It wouldn't cost anything, wouldn't spoil them, but would most likely make them feel better. If something's more serious, a little toy seems fine, too. Just definitely not an expensive, big toy...

[tintin15]

Maybe I'm being picky, but is anyone else bothered by the fact that Ollie got hurt (very minor injury, but still) and Bryan seemed to whip out his phone just to record his sadness? I can't remember if I read anyone else mention it. idk that bothers me. Why do you need that for vlog footage?

[Lovethesnark]

Bee stings are a little painful. I've been stung by a yellow jacket at 8 or 9 and it hurt a bit, but I dealt with it (especially bc it was at camp and when I tried to tell my counselor, she told me to go away because she was having the "accept Jesus" talk with another camper). For a 4 year old it's a little scary, just as all pain is for a 4 year old, but B&M hyped it up too much. Kids forget about pain in five minutes or less. They didn't have to keep bringing it up.

Also, the toy was inappropriate. I don't care if it was free or expensive. Pain is a part of life and you can't expect to get something when you get a boo boo. If Ollie grows up thinking you get things for pain or that big things help pain, that's going to be a problem. When we're grieving, heartbroken, horribly injured...are material things a band-aid or a cure? They're a band-aid. They make us happy and help for the time, but they don't make us better. A sucker or an ice cream or what have you is one thing, as it's a reasonable comfort. A big, expensive toy is going to start unhealthy patterns. Say they're still rich in 10-15 years. What's Ollie going to do when a girlfriend breaks up with him? Probably buy a freaking car or something. It's going to start a bad need for instant gratification.

I'm not saying this one incident is going to send him in a downward spiral, but wouldn't be surprised if they start giving him things after every scrape, boo boo, and sad moment.

Also, I don't think Ollie has autism. But I do think he is violent. And having my and other's opinions talked about like they're stupid or guaranteed false is a bit offensive...we don't know whether he'll be a brat or an angel in school. It's ok to think either thing, but let's not act like the people we don't agree with are idiots.

You're calling a 4 year old violent and a brat and you're offended because some people think your opinion is ridiculous?


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I'm seriously having a wtf moment. Today's a perfect example of how things said about him are way overblown. The kid is being called violent over something that didn't actually happen.

[tintin15]

Bee stings are a little painful. I've been stung by a yellow jacket at 8 or 9 and it hurt a bit, but I dealt with it (especially bc it was at camp and when I tried to tell my counselor, she told me to go away because she was having the "accept Jesus" talk with another camper). For a 4 year old it's a little scary, just as all pain is for a 4 year old, but B&M hyped it up too much. Kids forget about pain in five minutes or less. They didn't have to keep bringing it up.

Also, the toy was inappropriate. I don't care if it was free or expensive. Pain is a part of life and you can't expect to get something when you get a boo boo. If Ollie grows up thinking you get things for pain or that big things help pain, that's going to be a problem. When we're grieving, heartbroken, horribly injured...are material things a band-aid or a cure? They're a band-aid. They make us happy and help for the time, but they don't make us better. A sucker or an ice cream or what have you is one thing, as it's a reasonable comfort. A big, expensive toy is going to start unhealthy patterns. Say they're still rich in 10-15 years. What's Ollie going to do when a girlfriend breaks up with him? Probably buy a freaking car or something. It's going to start a bad need for instant gratification.

I'm not saying this one incident is going to send him in a downward spiral, but wouldn't be surprised if they start giving him things after every scrape, boo boo, and sad moment.

Also, I don't think Ollie has autism. But I do think he is violent. And having my and other's opinions talked about like they're stupid or guaranteed false is a bit offensive...we don't know whether he'll be a brat or an angel in school. It's ok to think either thing, but let's not act like the people we don't agree with are idiots.

You're calling a 4 year old violent and a brat and you're offended because some people think your opinion is ridiculous?


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I'm seriously having a wtf moment. Today's a perfect example of how things said about him are way overblown. The kid is being called violent over something that didn't actually happen.

I already explained myself, saying he is violent because he hits and spits on people. I'm not saying he's the devil's child and running rampant, should never go to school, etc. etc. I'm just observing things. You could both be right and he could be fine...and if he is, I will be happy about that. I'm not trying to be a horrid bitch, I just have an opinion and I don't see what's wrong with that. My intention is not to be cruel to Ollie.