Tayler Tragedy Part 15

[truffles92]

Everybody who has posted anything about pitbulls is absolutely misinformed.

First of all, I don't care that you have a well behaved pitty, your friend does, your neighbour, it doesn't matter. To be blunt: you are stupid if you think they attack because of the way they're trained. That's simply not true, their original purpose was to kill. I'm not talking about dog fighting, I'm talking about when they were very first developed as a breed.

Secondly, their jaws so not lock. They are a terrier. Terriers shake their prey until they are dead. That's just what they do, they just happen to be extremely strong and powerful.

The reason so many pit attacks happen is because people are ignorant, from both sides. They do not mature until they are 3 years old, and that is often when small animal aggression starts to present itself.

What does a small, screaming child look like to a prey driven dog? Prey. That's why these attacks happen, you cannot train natural instinct out of a dog.

It is not the dogs fault. It's just doing what it's bred to do. Cattle dogs herd without ever being trained to, but we don't call them bad dogs.

I think pits are beautiful dogs. I, however, would never leave a small child alone with one, or any other large, powerful, prey driven dog. I would also never leave a cat alone with a pitt. A cat is prey. They could live their whole lives together and be fine, and one day, one time the instinct kicks in. Responsible pitt owners will admit owning a cat is a gamble. Tayler is just dumb.

Not to mention, they have been so poorly bred that irresponsible breeders are mixing hot and cold lines together and you'll never know until it's too late...

The breed should not be banned. However, people shouldn't blindly own a pitbull and believe everything about them is a stereotype. If you own one, you are assuming the risk that comes with it.

[lalalashell23]

There is so much ignorance going on.

"Pit bull" is not a breed, just like "blue nose" or "fawn" is not a variation of that breed. If any of you had even the slightest clue about dogs, you would know that much... so stop throwing around the "PB" word like you're talking about a breed.

Any dog can be dangerous. I have been bit several times by my rescue dog while training him. He's an Australian Shepherd. Should they be banned? No, he was mistreated and therefore afraid of humans. Also, dogs primarily attack becauss they're SCARED. Of course, there are aggressive dogs normally caused by aggressive owners...or poor breeding. Did you know that purebreds of ANY bred have more issues physcically and mentally than any other mutt? 95% of the time, a dog (or any animal) will give you indications that they are uncomfortable and upset, it's HUMANS who are too stupid to recognize those indicators and that's how you get bit. Yes, I am calling myself stupid as well because I have allowed myself to get bit by my dog and bucked off horses for ignoring simple indicators.

"Pit Bulls" were not bred for fighting, because that's not a breed. It's a slang term to classify dogs who have similar characteristics.

Someone who got married at 18 can have a more successful marriage than someone who waited until 35. You do not have any right to determine what ruins the "sanctity of marriage" and what doesn't. Worry about your OWN relationship. Jeez.

Now, can we move on to what this post is about? It says "Tayler Tragedy" not "dogs and marriage".

OhReallyNow, get off your high horse. The way you flaunt your "education" and "degree" makes me believe that you don't have one, otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to prove anything to people you don't know.

[truffles92]

There is so much ignorance going on.

"Pit bull" is not a breed, just like "blue nose" or "fawn" is not a variation of that breed. If any of you had even the slightest clue about dogs, you would know that much... so stop throwing around the "PB" word like you're talking about a breed.

Any dog can be dangerous. I have been bit several times by my rescue dog while training him. He's an Australian Shepherd. Should they be banned? No, he was mistreated and therefore afraid of humans. Also, dogs primarily attack becauss they're SCARED. Of course, there are aggressive dogs normally caused by aggressive owners...or poor breeding. Did you know that purebreds of ANY bred have more issues physcically and mentally than any other mutt? 95% of the time, a dog (or any animal) will give you indications that they are uncomfortable and upset, it's HUMANS who are too stupid to recognize those indicators and that's how you get bit. Yes, I am calling myself stupid as well because I have allowed myself to get bit by my dog and bucked off horses for ignoring simple indicators.

"Pit Bulls" were not bred for fighting, because that's not a breed. It's a slang term to classify dogs who have similar characteristics.

Someone who got married at 18 can have a more successful marriage than someone who waited until 35. You do not have any right to determine what ruins the "sanctity of marriage" and what doesn't. Worry about your OWN relationship. Jeez.

Now, can we move on to what this post is about? It says "Tayler Tragedy" not "dogs and marriage".

OhReallyNow, get off your high horse. The way you flaunt your "education" and "degree" makes me believe that you don't have one, otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to prove anything to people you don't know.

Of course pitbull isn't a breed in itself. It is however used to describe APBT, and varieties of staffies. They are referred to as pits because MOST common day staffies or APBT are a cross of two or more of the "pitbull" breeds.

They were bred to attack and kill animals. They are a prey driven dog. As I have already stated, they are not bred to fight. You can also not teach a dog to fight, either.

Bad breeding has ruined the "pitbull" breeds as a whole.

[lalalashell23]

@truffles92 (I gave up quoting on my phone. Messes up too much).

Yes, yes, and more yes. I kept seeing "pit bulls bred for fighting" "mean dogs" "blahblahblah" and no REAL knowledge of the dog. It makes me angry to see people do that. If you don't like a breed, fine, but don't bash what you don't know.

[MakeupGirly]

Everybody who has posted anything about pitbulls is absolutely misinformed.

First of all, I don't care that you have a well behaved pitty, your friend does, your neighbour, it doesn't matter. To be blunt: you are stupid if you think they attack because of the way they're trained. That's simply not true, their original purpose was to kill. I'm not talking about dog fighting, I'm talking about when they were very first developed as a breed.

Secondly, their jaws so not lock. They are a terrier. Terriers shake their prey until they are dead. That's just what they do, they just happen to be extremely strong and powerful.

The reason so many pit attacks happen is because people are ignorant, from both sides. They do not mature until they are 3 years old, and that is often when small animal aggression starts to present itself.

What does a small, screaming child look like to a prey driven dog? Prey. That's why these attacks happen, you cannot train natural instinct out of a dog.

It is not the dogs fault. It's just doing what it's bred to do. Cattle dogs herd without ever being trained to, but we don't call them bad dogs.

I think pits are beautiful dogs. I, however, would never leave a small child alone with one, or any other large, powerful, prey driven dog. I would also never leave a cat alone with a pitt. A cat is prey. They could live their whole lives together and be fine, and one day, one time the instinct kicks in. Responsible pitt owners will admit owning a cat is a gamble. Tayler is just dumb.

Not to mention, they have been so poorly bred that irresponsible breeders are mixing hot and cold lines together and you'll never know until it's too late...

The breed should not be banned. However, people shouldn't blindly own a pitbull and believe everything about them is a stereotype. If you own one, you are assuming the risk that comes with it.

I totally agree with you!
I know someone who had a pitbull that was a perfectly well behaved dog and never showed signs of aggression. Here, there is a dangerous breeds list and every dog on that list must wear a muzzle in public by law. She didn't muzzle the dog one day on a walk, they turned a corner and came on someone else all of a sudden walking their jack russell and the pitbull got a shock and grabbed the little dog. He would not let go for anything. Everything someone threw cold water on the dog and it dropped it. Yes any well behaved dog can turn that like, but like you said, pitbulls are bred to kill and their instinct can kick in at any time.

I think they are lovely dogs and great in the right circumstances, but I really don't understand why anyone would get one in a house with small children and other small animals. Why not just get a dog that hasn't been bred to kill and not take the chance?

[kiwi]

Tayler has no business getting ANY dog. Especially a medium-large dog that requires lots of attention/training.

[lalalashell23]

Especially in that small apartment.


Did anyone see that photo on Tumblr of all that junk food (and bananas) and she says "this is what y'all buy me for watching my videos".

So, you don't use that money for your kids?

[truffles92]

She can't even take her kids out for a walk everyday, I doubt she'd do it with a dog.

People like her are the reason so many dogs end up in shelters. And didn't she say she was getting her "pitbull" from a breeder? I'm sure they're reputable. She doesn't know the first thing about owning a dog.

If she really wants a dog she should go adopt one.

[edf7810]

Some people seem to think Tayler said she wanted a Pitt. And she never did, to my knowledge. This whole debate started because of a signature of a user on here that had a pittbull on it. Not because of Tayler. (: just clarifying in case some one thought Tayler was getting one.

Hopefully she wouldn't be dumb enough to get a dog that needs a lot of dedication when she barely pays attention to her children. But who knows! Haha.

[edf7810]

Sorry for the double post, but she actually said she wanted a Pitt? WHAT? Where?

I thought she already had a dog at a friends? I don't know what makes her think ANY dog but a small dog would even be close to a good idea...

[hjl226]

Some people seem to think Tayler said she wanted a Pitt. And she never did, to my knowledge. This whole debate started because of a signature of a user on here that had a pittbull on it. Not because of Tayler. (: just clarifying in case some one thought Tayler was getting one.

Hopefully she wouldn't be dumb enough to get a dog that needs a lot of dedication when she barely pays attention to her children. But who knows! Haha.

Yes it all started when i said i thought it was a cute signature video because the cat smacks the dog and the dog just stands there I had no idea it would lead to all this

[truffles92]

Sorry for the double post, but she actually said she wanted a Pitt? WHAT? Where?

I thought she already had a dog at a friends? I don't know what makes her think ANY dog but a small dog would even be close to a good idea...

She said she wanted one in her "the truth" videos with Chuckie because she wanted one for protection.

[sleep84]

If I worked my ass off to get something accomplished, then I "busted ass" to get it done.

The other term would be if you "bust someone's ass," such as beating them up.

Oh. Weird.

I always thought it meant that "cops caught someone with a stash of drugs!".

I'm an animal freak. I just have to politely put my two cents in. (can't I just shut up? Nope!)

It saddens me to hear stories like: family dog put down in England because he was half-pitbull and they banned pitbulls.
I can't imagine going through that with one of my animals (never had an animal - cat or dog - who was not rescued from the street or something, but it could have happened!) I don't agree with these measures. I don't at all.

There was the rottweiler time, the Doberman etc. True. Pitbulls have a bad rep because they were created specifically for dog fights. All pitbulls were created with similar cross-breeding between bulldogs and terriers. They are not a "natural" breed. People isolated certain characteristics of strength etc.
They are also not all the same. There are the "american pitbull terriers", "american staffordshire" and "staffordshire bull terrier". (I'm almost positively sure that I made mistakes naming each 3 of the breeds! )

Molossers are types of dogs that HAVE to be well kept as well.
A couple of months ago, a couple of those, escaped from the gate of a huge villa near where I live. Ran around the town and attacked a couple of hunters with a dog (the 2 dogs were attacking their dog). I won't even say the result of this.
The owner was accused of improper training and she's facing serious legal charges.

Are they evil? No. But they have an inner "nature", which should be kept in check.

Although, I was a dog-sitter for a Pinscher last winter, the miniature dobermann. This is what I learned.
Teaching, training education mean everything. This dog had not been educated AT ALL. She was aggressive as hell, overprotective, I couldn't go near my aunt when the dog was in her lap because she jumped off started barking, chased me around and bit my calf. I really didn't do anything but being at 3 meters from my aunt talking to her.
And that dog was this itsy bitsy annoying thing, she didn't have the size to do great harm. Just imagine, though.

Pitbulls are built physically to be strong, resistent, agile and intelligent. They can be powerful weapons in the wrong hands. Like all those dogs that are trained to guard the gates or as a defense.
They are not "evil or bad by nature", but there is such a thing as character structure and given trait of a breed. With the correct upbringing that can be overcome.

Are there evil dogs? No. There are stupid/neglectful owners. (I would definitely not give a pitbull to Tayler and Chuckfuck --this nick name is sheer genious!! )
A dog with those characteristics of strength and physical stamina in the wrong hands: recipe for disaster.

*I'm pretty sure that there are more mistakes and typos in this post, Horatio, ..
and pardon if I use the tecnical terms maybe improperly, I don't feel like checking the exact correct translation for the words breed, lineage, cross breed, etc.

[Littlewaltz]

It's hard to believe that at 9 week fetal development, you can feel your baby. A juicy hamburger is going to do a lot more in your abdomen than a fetus that isn't even an inch and a half wide, without the muscles to even move around voluntarily.

I think you just had gas or your body was adjusting to growth, but you didn't feel that actual baby. No way, no how.

Well since you got to stand around on your soap box for the past 10 pages, it gives me great pleasure to inform you that you are dead wrong. Fetal movement is possible to feel at the 9 week mark. Movement is not voluntary but it is there and depending on placenta placement, is very possible to feel. Arm and leg movement (sporadic or in tandem), back arching and head turning are all happening at 9 weeks due to the control neurons developing in the spinal cord. These spasms (or startles) can be very powerful and can be felt.

Also before you start spouting about how people here are uneducated and how I probably just made that up with my Google Degree. I am a licensed and practicing ObGyn.

[edf7810]

Sorry for the double post, but she actually said she wanted a Pitt? WHAT? Where?

I thought she already had a dog at a friends? I don't know what makes her think ANY dog but a small dog would even be close to a good idea...

She said she wanted one in her "the truth" videos with Chuckie because she wanted one for protection.

Oh my goodness. She is going to regret that decision when she neglects that dog and it ends up biting her or her children.

While I do believe pittbulls can be absolutely lovely dogs, I also believe that because of how they were bred into creation that they have a higher tendency to become aggressive is not cared for and trained properly. And honestly, even then, dogs like that can still turn out mean. My family has always raised and bred Dobermans since I can remember, because my father loved them and knew how to train and handle them. That didn't stop one of them from snapping at my brother repeated times when he was only three. A lot of the larger breeds can be aggressive, no matter how they're raised. And while the same can be said for little dogs, I suppose, they are also easier to defend yourself from and do far less damage in one bit then a Shepard, Pitt, Doberman, ect.

They are GREAT for protection, if you actually know what you're doing, buy from a great breeder, and take the time to learn about your dog and train them and do NOT neglect them. If you can't handle your kids, you can't handle a dog. Sorry for the rant /:

[hannahbanana]

I'm sorry but doulamommy reminds me of those girls I have on FB who feel the need to always compare their kids whenever someone else posts a status about their children (ex: "my baby is starting to crawl!" Person comments "omg I remember when my baby first started crawling too and she was much younger than yours!"). I know you should be proud of the milestones your baby has made, but not every one is the same. I see that all the time too on certain YT Moms FB or instagrams; no matter what they post, there's always that one mom who compares her child to everyone else's.
In other news, someone asked Tayler why she used laxatives after having Jakoby and she said that she had trouble pooping esp since she had a c-section. Any thoughts on that?

[lalalashell23]

Oh...I'm just going to ignore any further comments about "pit bulls". -____- I just can't...

I saw that question about the laxatives. I don't even.../:

[sleep84]

I know close to nothing about c-sections, but I think that's fairly common to be on stool softener after a c-section. Bowel movements go bonkers, constipation, I thought it was all normal.. you don't want to push (with the scar still healing) and pain killers cause constipation. That's what I think..

[edf7810]

I didn't have a csection but was still given stool softness because of them not wanting my stitches to tear. So I imagine she did get some for her csection. But for her to say earlier that that was one way she 'stayed so thin', it just makes me think that she probably took them more/longer then the doctor advised and now she's using the csection as a cover for that answer.

[lalalashell23]

She's just caught in another lie. She can't stop, can she?

One thing about telling lies is it is VERY hard to keep track of what you've said and stories then change. If you're going to lie, you better make damn sure you are telling the same lie every time.