Steps to Wander

[Snow White]

Double post but whatever.

As marshmallow said they could have lived anywhere. They had no roots in place after their failed trip. They chose an expensive city, and appear to be living outside of their means. They CHOSE a zip code based on vibes and THEIR WANTS. Not because it's a great family locatiOn, is pet friendly or even thinking down the road has a great school system. They picked a city based on their current trend.

It's shocking that their "fans" think this selfish, childish and reckless disregard for the future is fine.

[Playsinrain]

Just bc they live in a small home doesn't mean they don't love their child and dog any less. It's strange to me that some people measure love that way,

I understand that you are a "fan" but please ignore my posts if you intend to twist my words and act like a total stan. I never said nor do I measure love by or with material items.

They could have chosen a more family friendly location. They looked at other places, one with a yard, another more space for the baby. THEY chose the most expensive apartment - that had little to no room for a baby, and no yard or green space for their dog.

LMAO.... I wouldnt consider myself a fan, seeing as though i have watched exactly one vlog of theirs since they have moved. I just dont understand why people have their panties in a wad bc they choose to live in a small home in a town they want to live in. You say that Kelsey is selfish and obsessed bc they didn't move into a huge house. Some people enjoy a small home and that lifestyle. They have always lived in small spaces. Sure they COULD have done all those things, but they chose not to. I'm not twisting words when you literally said shes putting herself before her child and dog bc they live in a small place. They take damn good care of Paris and they aren't neglecting their unborn child just bc she doesnt have her own bedroom.

[HashtagBlessed]

I personally think it's incredibly irresponsible to become a parent without the means to provide for a child. These two decided to start trying when they were living in a van with no prenatal coverage. Enough said. It's not so much the one-bedroom situation on it's own, it's the sum of all of their poor decisions and their inability to handle basic things that paints the picture.

They're lucky to have two sets of parents who want to help and go out of their way to step in when Kelsey and Corbin do something ill-advised. The dramatic irony of it is that they never seem to accept responsibility for their decisions and they whine constantly about the inconveniences they create for themselves. They're just so blissfully unaware of what having a baby means and how priorities (should) shift.

[Playsinrain]

I do not by any means think that K&C are without fault.. no way. I had higher hopes for their vlogs, bc they are just boring now and i dont ever watch anymore. I've said it before, but i tend to look for the good in people before the bad, and they seem like good hearted people. It's just weird to me that people are picking them apart just bc they choose a small home in a city they love... It's might not be what YOU or I would do, but it doesnt make them horrible people or bad future parents.

[Playsinrain]

I personally think it's incredibly irresponsible to become a parent without the means to provide for a child. These two decided to start trying when they were living in a van with no prenatal coverage. Enough said. It's not so much the one-bedroom situation on it's own, it's the sum of all of their poor decisions and their inability to handle basic things that paints the picture.

They're lucky to have two sets of parents who want to help and go out of their way to step in when Kelsey and Corbin do something ill-advised. The dramatic irony of it is that they never seem to accept responsibility for their decisions and they whine constantly about the inconveniences they create for themselves. They're just so blissfully unaware of what having a baby means and how priorities (should) shift.

I agree that they depend on mom and dad to bail them out when things get tough (and they are way over dramatic) I'm curious to see what happens when the baby comes. I do think they will be in for a huge reality check.

[HashtagBlessed]

I myself have always lived in small spaces just fine and plan to raise children in a smaller space because we live in an expensive area. But we bought in a good school district that's somewhat walkable and has a low crime rate, meaning gun shots aren't reported on a regular basis and the local grocery store isn't a drug dealing mecca like Kelsey and Corbin's neighborhood. Judging by the neighborhood, the size of the apartment, and the no car situation, I'd say their priorities are out of whack if they're spending upwards of $1,600 a month to live there. That's just my personal reading of the situation. I don't think they're malicious people, I just think they're hopelessly immature for their age.

[fossilfinger]

I don't think their living space is that big of a deal, but they chose a place that was so expensive they couldn't afford a car. Do you really think they're going to want to trek outside in the cold with a newborn all the time? I know people in bigger cities/other countries/whatever do it all the time, but they seem to really like the convenience of the car and where they live is not necessarily as pedestrian-friendly as certain other places. I don't think they will last long without a car, maybe a couple months after Juniper is born, if that...I'm sure they will come up with the means somehow and find a bigger house to live in within the next year. I think it's the fact that they could have chosen more wisely about their living situation, but purposely gave up many conveniences, that bothers people. It won't affect the quality of their parenting, it will just lead to them whining more on YouTube.

[Playsinrain]

I myself have always lived in small spaces just fine and plan to raise children in a smaller space because we live in an expensive area. But we bought in a good school district that's somewhat walkable and has a low crime rate, meaning gun shots aren't reported on a regular basis and the local grocery store isn't a drug dealing mecca like Kelsey and Corbin's neighborhood. Judging by the neighborhood, the size of the apartment, and the no car situation, I'd say their priorities are out of whack if they're spending upwards of $1,600 a month to live there. That's just my personal reading of the situation. I don't think they're malicious people, I just think they're hopelessly immature for their age.

They said that about the store? damn... Like i said, i haven't been watching that much. I watched the one Scary road trip click bait and one about the nursery plan and thats been it for weeks.. If the neighborhood is that bad it's not going to matter if they live in a 400sqft home or a 4000sqft home. I can understand complaining about them picking this neighborhood over some of the others, but i cant get the hate bc they don't have a bedroom for a newborn.

[Snow White]

I do not by any means think that K&C are without fault.. no way. I had higher hopes for their vlogs, bc they are just boring now and i dont ever watch anymore. I've said it before, but i tend to look for the good in people before the bad, and they seem like good hearted people. It's just weird to me that people are picking them apart just bc they choose a small home in a city they love... It's might not be what YOU or I would do, but it doesnt make them horrible people or bad future parents.

Again, don't put words in MY mouth.

I never shit on them once for having a one bedroom. You seem to have one defence & fail to understand other opinions and persepectives. I think its wonderful to buy/live small, live big. However, that doesn't seem to be the case here.

They chose the most expensive apartment, foregoing a vehicle, with a new born on the way. What happens when that baby needs to see the doctor? In the middle of the night? I understand many families make due without the luxury of a car, but not all by choice. A car is hugely beneficial with children.

K&C based their living arrangements on what THEY wanted, not what was realistic for the baby, the future, or even their dog. If Kelsey is so exhausted now, what will happen once the baby is here and Paris needs to be taken out? Having a yard would have been the reasonable choice, but that house with the yard was in a "shady" part of town. Never mind the drug deals on the doorstep of this perfect apartment ?

Some of the other places they looked at would have been great for a new family with an aging dog. But nope, nothing was considered except for what Kelsey wanted.


Their views are weak, and with their new preachy attitudes I can't see YT taking off for them. That new apartment will become a financial stress and they will be moving within the baby's first year.

[ewokfan11]

They said that about the store? damn...

They didn't say it themselves, I wrote that here because I know exactly where they live and I'm originally from Portland. The area they live in is more up-and-coming and better for young professionals. It's also really not convenient without a car.

I don't think the tiny apartment would be too terrible if relatives or close friends lived nearby, but they don't seem to have ANYONE close to them in PDX. Weird. Where are the grandparents (and DBs) going to stay when they come to help Kelsey with the baby?? I can't imagine everyone will be staying in the apartment??!!?

I already feel bad for their neighbors. Crying babies don't make great apartment neighbors.

[Playsinrain]

I do not by any means think that K&C are without fault.. no way. I had higher hopes for their vlogs, bc they are just boring now and i dont ever watch anymore. I've said it before, but i tend to look for the good in people before the bad, and they seem like good hearted people. It's just weird to me that people are picking them apart just bc they choose a small home in a city they love... It's might not be what YOU or I would do, but it doesnt make them horrible people or bad future parents.

Again, don't put words in MY mouth.

I never shit on them once for having a one bedroom. You seem to have one defence & fail to understand other opinions and persepectives. I think its wonderful to buy/live small, live big. However, that doesn't seem to be the case here.

They chose the most expensive apartment, foregoing a vehicle, with a new born on the way. What happens when that baby needs to see the doctor? In the middle of the night? I understand many families make due without the luxury of a car, but not all by choice. A car is hugely beneficial with children.

K&C based their living arrangements on what THEY wanted, not what was realistic for the baby, the future, or even their dog. If Kelsey is so exhausted now, what will happen once the baby is here and Paris needs to be taken out? Having a yard would have been the reasonable choice, but that house with the yard was in a "shady" part of town. Never mind the drug deals on the doorstep of this perfect apartment ?

Some of the other places they looked at would have been great for a new family with an aging dog. But nope, nothing was considered except for what Kelsey wanted.


Their views are weak, and with their new preachy attitudes I can't see YT taking off for them. That new apartment will become a financial stress and they will be moving within the baby's first year.

Thing is, i agree with most of what you are saying, but you say "I never shit on them for having a one bedroom" when literally the comment that started this was you shitting on them for not having a bedroom for June.,,

Nursery reveal? No Kelsey it's a closet reveal, because you care more about image and zip codes. Perhaps had you not been so selfish & obsessed with your image, you would have put your daughter & beloved dog first.

I don't think it's smart to not have a car with a newborn, i mean unless they are just a couple blocks from the pediatrician (i have no clue what this neighborhood is comprised of). I have a lot of questions about how they plan on getting Kelsey to the hospital when she goes into labor, hop on the bus i guess?
I never was under the impression that they would be living her for much longer if even a year. From the get go i thought this was just temporary to get them out of the beach house and into something closer to Kelsey's dr and Corbin's "job" (i know there has been debate about all that though) and out of "borrowed" housing. If the neighborhood is crap then yes i agree they should have made other decisions, but none of that has anything to do with Kelsey doing a nursery reveal. I dont know the neighborhood and admitted that i have not watched them enough to pick up anything about the location of the apt. I do agree that this home in this specific location may not be the smartest and most convenient choice, i do not agree that they should be getting picked apart bc they don't have a huge fancy nursery for the baby... Thats really the only thing that bothered me about your original comment. Saying Kelsey is selfish and obsessed with her image for not having a full bedroom for a newborn is a bit OTT to me. Adding in the comments about the neighborhood and ect makes more sense, i do agree with that, but your original statement had nothing to do with that and everything to do with the size of the home. If they lived in the same exact apt, but it was in a better location, and they had reliable transportation would you still complain about June's nursery?

[Snow White]

Thank you for a mature response.


I believe Kelsey is selfish & narrow sighted, I wont apologize for that. That is my OPINION. I found her comment about a nursery reveal ridiculous because she chose the least functional apartment for her growing and aging family. She chose what she wanted, and everyone else would just have to adjust. I do believe they chose that apartment for nothing more than the zip code and image. *Had she chose a small space, but one that was more mindful of her family and less of simply what she wanted I would have had respect for her, even if the baby was a sharing a room with them, and was limited to a corner of the room.*
I'm sorry I didn't write a paragraph fully explaining my views on Kelsey and Corbin and their choices. They rushed the process, looked at 3 places? Seemed closed off to the idea of looking else where, or outside of a specific zip code.

And no, simply having a car would not have made that apartment the best choice for them.
They had Paris to the Vet how many times this summer? And then they revealed they knew he had a back problem? A yard or a ground apartment would have been a great CONSIDERATION for their aging dog, especially with a baby on the way.
Also they appear to be living above their means with the apartment, while expectIng a baby, and hoping YT takes off for them. Very unrealistic. All the while I find they have become rather abrasive with their opinions. I respect their right to have opinions, but they won't be successful with YT preaching to and speaking down to their subscribers about living healthy all the while shovelling crap in their faces.

[HelloSweetie]

Thank you for a mature response.


I believe Kelsey is selfish & narrow sighted, I wont apologize for that. That is my OPINION. I found her comment about a nursery reveal ridiculous because she chose the least functional apartment for her growing and aging family. She chose what she wanted, and everyone else would just have to adjust. I do believe they chose that apartment for nothing more than the zip code and image. *Had she chose a small space, but one that was more mindful of her family and less of simply what she wanted I would have had respect for her, even if the baby was a sharing a room with them, and was limited to a corner of the room.*
I'm sorry I didn't write a paragraph fully explaining my views on Kelsey and Corbin and their choices. They rushed the process, looked at 3 places? Seemed closed off to the idea of looking else where, or outside of a specific zip code.

And no, simply having a car would not have made that apartment the best choice for them.
They had Paris to the Vet how many times this summer? And then they revealed they knew he had a back problem? A yard or a ground apartment would have been a great CONSIDERATION for their aging dog, especially with a baby on the way.
Also they appear to be living above their means with the apartment, while expectIng a baby, and hoping YT takes off for them. Very unrealistic. All the while I find they have become rather abrasive with their opinions. I respect their right to have opinions, but they won't be successful with YT preaching to and speaking down to their subscribers about living healthy all the while shovelling crap in their faces.

I agree. I used to think C&K were a lot better than Missy, and couldn't figure out why they were friends. Now it's fairly obvious that they aren't different, and are actually quite similar. Kelsey is spoiled and whiny, and Corbyn can have that same bitchy attitude that Bryan has, only with a stick up air of superiority. They are in no way ready for the sacrifices they will need to make for a baby.

[HashtagBlessed]

I don't think a young baby is harmed in any way by sharing a room with her parents, but I do think it's a potential huge inconvenience to the parents to not have the option of a second bedroom. To me it just highlights how unprepared they are and how little thought went into the decision to have a baby.

And in my mind, paying $1600 in rent isn't really saving money. Obviously I have no idea what their finances look like, but their YouTube position is precarious and they seem to struggle with money and budgeting. So going with the more expensive apartment in a "trendy" area where $1600 only gets you one bedroom and you can't presently afford a car seems irresponsible.

When they talked about their priorities for an apartment, I heard that they needed a bathtub, a nook in the bedroom for their daughter, and they wanted to be able to walk to coffee/restaurants/bars. It sounds like they expect to continue living their life as usual. I didn't hear a lot about what was best for a family of three plus Paris.

[Playsinrain]

Thank you for a mature response.


I believe Kelsey is selfish & narrow sighted, I wont apologize for that. That is my OPINION. I found her comment about a nursery reveal ridiculous because she chose the least functional apartment for her growing and aging family. She chose what she wanted, and everyone else would just have to adjust. I do believe they chose that apartment for nothing more than the zip code and image. *Had she chose a small space, but one that was more mindful of her family and less of simply what she wanted I would have had respect for her, even if the baby was a sharing a room with them, and was limited to a corner of the room.*
I'm sorry I didn't write a paragraph fully explaining my views on Kelsey and Corbin and their choices. They rushed the process, looked at 3 places? Seemed closed off to the idea of looking else where, or outside of a specific zip code.

And no, simply having a car would not have made that apartment the best choice for them.
They had Paris to the Vet how many times this summer? And then they revealed they knew he had a back problem? A yard or a ground apartment would have been a great CONSIDERATION for their aging dog, especially with a baby on the way.
Also they appear to be living above their means with the apartment, while expectIng a baby, and hoping YT takes off for them. Very unrealistic. All the while I find they have become rather abrasive with their opinions. I respect their right to have opinions, but they won't be successful with YT preaching to and speaking down to their subscribers about living healthy all the while shovelling crap in their faces.

I 100% agree that this baby will totally throw a wrench in their fantasy of life with a baby. They think that the baby will be happy to tag along and just be an accessory to their life full of eating out and drinking craft beers. And sure, they could have the most laid back baby ever conceived and she could totally be just that, but in reality most babies are not that chill.
Fact is, i'm really beginning to be disappointed in them. The housing issue aside, Kelsey's whining and over dramatic tendencies are REALLY starting to show, she also seems super naive, which is surprising to me since she puts off such a worldly air. Naive people get on my last nerve so..
I think that they have seen how successful (barf) B&M are and thought this would be easy money and that they would take off. Truth is they dont pander to the kids (thats not totally a bad thing, bad for views i guess but not bad in general), they have stopped the trip (which dries up the views they were getting from people who were only there for that) and they are insanely boring now. The money might start flowing once the baby gets here and they are probably counting on that to make them as popular as B&M.. although i don't see it happening.
I'm sure they are living above their means, i cant see how they could be making enough $ with YT to afford a $1600 a month apt, unless YT is much more lucrative than i thought for smaller channels. I'm still thinking that one or both of them are getting allowance from mom and dad on a monthly basis. (which in certain situations i cant gripe about. My parents paid my sisters rent for a few years while she finished school, was a single mom to a newborn, and was working 25 hours a week. She couldn't make ends meet with her just job, with classes and paying for childcare and they helped her out until she got her degree and her son's father finally settled down and manned up. But that situation is FAR FAR different than Kelsey and Corbin's.) I think that mom and dad (if thats the case) should cut the purse strings and light a fire under Corbin's ass to go out and get a damn job and let YT be their secondary income.
I will say that i have faith that they will be good parents, and will be day and night compared to B&M. I hope they dont make me eat those words. I feel like they will raise smart, polite, well traveled children who won't be plopped in a room with a tv and chocolate milk for hours at a time.
I really wanted to like these two a lot, and i can't say that i dislike them now, but I am disinterested and thats disappointing too me. They started out strong, but have started to show their true colors.

[melonyogloo]

Today's video shows how boring their vlogs have become. At least when they were traveling, I could see new places every other day. Right now, they are limited on doing stuff that is within walking distance since they have no car. They show us they are eating out but really never show what they are eating. I am tired of looking at their apartment everyday while they pretend to enjoy their lives. The baby cannot come soon enough.

[ewokfan11]

Today's video shows how boring their vlogs have become. At least when they were traveling, I could see new places every other day. Right now, they are limited on doing stuff that is within walking distance since they have no car. They show us they are eating out but really never show what they are eating. I am tired of looking at their apartment everyday while they pretend to enjoy their lives. The baby cannot come soon enough.

They are literally eating at restaurants downstairs or across the street from their apartment almost every meal (you can even see the outside of their big apartment complex through the window at dinner). I'm curious when and HOW they are going to do a real grocery store/Target shopping trip. Are they going to Uber everywhere? Amazon delivery?

As for the baby arriving...I'm sort of over YT babies. Yes, the birth videos are fun, but babies are boring and EVERYONE seems to be having a YT baby these days. I'm not going to waste my time watching boring sleeping baby montages - and that's even from vloggers I watched consistently before babies (like Cullen and Katie/the other Null family, etc.)

Plus, after the baby they will really be stuck at home all day, every day. I think they will be less interesting because they really won't be doing anything worth watching. They should have kept the car a little longer for a few more short trips. But I guess they really can't afford it.

[ewokfan11]

Corbin complaining about public transportation today was HILARIOUS! It seems like they never actually used public transportation before getting rid of their car. I'm not sure they realize it's completely unreliable and it takes at least 30 minutes to 1 hour longer than having a car, especially going across the river in PDX. Are they really that stupid and naive???? Also, why didn't they just reserve a U-Haul online before going out?? Or even CALL first.

As others have mentioned, I used to like them, but they are really making very poor decisions and seem pretty dumb.

[ewokfan11]

Sorry for another post, but I have a friend due about the same time as Kelsey...and I was thinking (when my friend showed me her new carseat) it's sad that baby Juniper is going home from the hospital in a dirty taxi or a stranger's Uber or maybe even on a bus??

[HashtagBlessed]

Corbin doesn't have bad luck. He's just not smart, and apparently isn't capable of going online the night before or calling to reserve a U-Haul over the phone. He'd much prefer to walk and take public transportation and pay for taxis to take him back and forth between all the various U-Haul locations.