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geezlouise_99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 pm
Who listened to their podcast Jared mentioned a heart thing that runs in their family he had symptoms of it and the doctor told him to be active and eat healthy
He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!
Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.
When the fuck is Ellie going to try an actual anti-anxiety medication for her anxiety?! Throwing random hormones at it probably just exacerbated her mental issues because it makes her physical symptoms worse.
Free wrote:um. I just wanted to say that I think its Ellies dad....he pops up in the background he kinds creeps me out. Jared and his family seem really freakin nice. The last thing that family should be doing is hanging out and joining up cult families with Bryan and Melissa from DB. Not a good mix for meet ups. Totally different people. I see Bryan and missy as snakes.
When you watch long enough you start to see how fake Jared really is. I’m no Bryan fan, but he is far less slimy and shameless than Jared is. Plus he screams douchebag, whereas Jared is a baby butt rubbing snake in the grass.
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really! I'm ok with harmless douchebags unfortunately, Bryan is not. He is vindictive and steals. WTH is a baby butt rubbing? - snake in the grass, I understand the meaning....
After all these years they have not figured out why they are even 'friends' and they are all complicit. All this is the same scam a new era. These guys will roll out and the next will come.
"It's Easier to FOOL people than to CONVINCE them they are being FOOLED"
Baby butt rubbing refers to Jared taking off Lincoln's diaper and rubbing his bare bottom over Jared's cheek while Ellie laughed and filmed it. And they used it for the thumbnail. He has just has a professional shave, and said he wanted to see if it were smooth as a baby's bottom. They said they wouldn't apologize because they "didn't do anything wrong". And Bonnie even said she had no problem with it.
They're despicable.
Free wrote:
really! I'm ok with harmless douchebags unfortunately, Bryan is not. He is vindictive and steals. WTH is a baby butt rubbing? - snake in the grass, I understand the meaning....
After all these years they have not figured out why they are even 'friends' and they are all complicit. All this is the same scam a new era. These guys will roll out and the next will come.
Jared steals too. They used Ellie’s aunt to sell their t-shirts showing her for sympathy a couple times and promising to donate part of the t-shirt funds to her care. They sold the shirts and then never even mentioned her again until days after she died (like a year later). They also made money off all the IVF grant submission videos. You can feel however you want about Bryan, but he appears to give a lot more than he takes from others. Imo the same cannot be said about E&J. They will happily mock Jared’s parents as they clean out their house due to foreclosure, film it, and won’t even feel bad for a moment.
geezlouise_99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 pm
Who listened to their podcast Jared mentioned a heart thing that runs in their family he had symptoms of it and the doctor told him to be active and eat healthy
He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!
Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.
When the fuck is Ellie going to try an actual anti-anxiety medication for her anxiety?! Throwing random hormones at it probably just exacerbated her mental issues because it makes her physical symptoms worse.
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When she actually goes and actual care which I do not for a second believes she needs other than therapy where she is actually honest. Ellie is just not happy that she has to work and take care of her family and house. She hides from her responsibilities by saying she has anxiety.
Ellie wanted her perfect life because that is all she knew. She would be perfectly fine is she ate better and left Jared and lived single and part time only custody of the kids.
Back to the podcast once again-thought of this later on. The bulk and first one covered of the medical part of the podcast was of course Ellie and her hormones. Jared and the heart problem didn't come in till the end. Ellie, his health concern is a more serious problem especially with his family history! Plus we have heard about your hormones and trekking from one doctor to another for like a year now-give us a break!
They have implicated that Ellie is seeing a therapist. What does she mean by "therapist"? She calls these chiropractors hormone specialists! I guess on past instances I question who she actually is seeing for the problem!
Ok, so this is my first time posting so please correct me if I didn’t do this right In today’s Vlog Ellie talks about how every day at 8 she goes to Bonnie’s and they do “Billie stuff”. Something that has bugged me is who looks after her children? Get them up, dressed, feed, school drops off etc somewhere in there all that has to happen before 8 and yet Ellie is always ‘picture perfect put together’,and clearly not with her children. What about Tommie? Do they have a full time nanny or is Jarad the “stay at home mom” while Ellie runs around and does all this stuff instead of being a mom to her kids? It doesn’t make sense to me. I feel like also, at least weekly the kids are staying over with grandparents or someone’s else’s home over night, I think it’s great that have those resources but that isn’t normal. I feel guilty AF asking my in laws or my own parents for a date ONCE a month, let alone weekly. Ugh
sheltiefan wrote:
He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!
Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.
When the fuck is Ellie going to try an actual anti-anxiety medication for her anxiety?! Throwing random hormones at it probably just exacerbated her mental issues because it makes her physical symptoms worse.
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When she actually goes and actual care which I do not for a second believes she needs other than therapy where she is actually honest. Ellie is just not happy that she has to work and take care of her family and house. She hides from her responsibilities by saying she has anxiety.
Ellie wanted her perfect life because that is all she knew. She would be perfectly fine is she ate better and left Jared and lived single and part time only custody of the kids.
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I disagree here. I think she for sure has a mental illness that should be medicated (multiple disorders come to mind, I won’t get into that). I 100% think she should be seeing a legitimate therapist also (who knows if she’s just seeing a counselor from her church right now). She has disordered eating and doesn’t seemed fulfilled by anything in her life...she obsesses over every symptom she experiences and throws hokey treatments at it. She has a “perfect” life on paper, the fact that she’s still anxious, unhappy, and exhibiting disordered behavior points to me that there’s deeper issues going on than just being a spoiled princess.
Coffeefuledmama wrote:Ok, so this is my first time posting so please correct me if I didn’t do this right In today’s Vlog Ellie talks about how every day at 8 she goes to Bonnie’s and they do “Billie stuff”. Something that has bugged me is who looks after her children? Get them up, dressed, feed, school drops off etc somewhere in there all that has to happen before 8 and yet Ellie is always ‘picture perfect put together’,and clearly not with her children. What about Tommie? Do they have a full time nanny or is Jarad the “stay at home mom” while Ellie runs around and does all this stuff instead of being a mom to her kids? It doesn’t make sense to me. I feel like also, at least weekly the kids are staying over with grandparents or someone’s else’s home over night, I think it’s great that have those resources but that isn’t normal. I feel guilty AF asking my in laws or my own parents for a date ONCE a month, let alone weekly. Ugh
If we are to think that Bollie is her job then she shouldn't feel guilty for going to work right? Or does that stand for all working moms? We should be staying at home and being a mom? I also feel guilty about leaving my kids for date nights but I'm trying really hard not to feel guilty because I need to work
Coffeefuledmama wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:28 am
Ok, so this is my first time posting so please correct me if I didn’t do this right In today’s Vlog Ellie talks about how every day at 8 she goes to Bonnie’s and they do “Billie stuff”. Something that has bugged me is who looks after her children? Get them up, dressed, feed, school drops off etc somewhere in there all that has to happen before 8 and yet Ellie is always ‘picture perfect put together’,and clearly not with her children. What about Tommie? Do they have a full time nanny or is Jarad the “stay at home mom” while Ellie runs around and does all this stuff instead of being a mom to her kids? It doesn’t make sense to me. I feel like also, at least weekly the kids are staying over with grandparents or someone’s else’s home over night, I think it’s great that have those resources but that isn’t normal. I feel guilty AF asking my in laws or my own parents for a date ONCE a month, let alone weekly. Ugh
Its not often I defend Ellie, but I do think if they want to make Bollie successful and able to financially provide for both families they need to put some real effort in and treat it like a job. That means meeting at regular times, without children. And if theyre going to treat it as such then its completely reasonable that Ellie would show up to her job dressed and presentable, without her children. Jared is more then capable of getting the boys up and fed and off to school, as is Joel.
Whats wrong with Jared being the "stay at home mom"? He IS their father, Ellie IS working.
All that being said, I think Bollie will ultimately fail without their youtube audience, but at least they seem to be trying rather then what they were doing in the beginning.
Coffeefuledmama wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:28 am
Ok, so this is my first time posting so please correct me if I didn’t do this right In today’s Vlog Ellie talks about how every day at 8 she goes to Bonnie’s and they do “Billie stuff”. Something that has bugged me is who looks after her children? Get them up, dressed, feed, school drops off etc somewhere in there all that has to happen before 8 and yet Ellie is always ‘picture perfect put together’,and clearly not with her children. What about Tommie? Do they have a full time nanny or is Jarad the “stay at home mom” while Ellie runs around and does all this stuff instead of being a mom to her kids? It doesn’t make sense to me. I feel like also, at least weekly the kids are staying over with grandparents or someone’s else’s home over night, I think it’s great that have those resources but that isn’t normal. I feel guilty AF asking my in laws or my own parents for a date ONCE a month, let alone weekly. Ugh
I believe Jared gets the boys ready for school and drives them (as does Joel). I never heard of them having a nanny or housekeeper but they are sneaky so who knows. Tommy is probably asleep until Jared returns and then the princess goes about her "hectic" day with the other princess of Utah. They are only happy when they are not around their children - shopping, eating out and trying on makeup. They have the life we can only dream of.
He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!
Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.
It baffles me that someone with a pronounced family history of early death from heart related causes doesn't bother to learn the difference between high cholesterol, angina, and heart attack. How does Jared not even know what his dad actually had? Obviously he was young when it happened, but now Jared should be getting all the info he can. It makes a difference if his dad had angina vs the widowmaker heart attack. This is important for his doctors to know even more than Jared saying it feels like peanut butter is being squeezed though his aorta or whatever.
I am sure it was angina that his dad had since he is still alive. They call it that because it is fatal I believe in all cases. Like when you hear people just fall out instantly dead, it's the widow maker. With his family history and if he keeps having symptoms, they may need to do a stress test. An important fact that Ellie brought up was they upped their life insurance policy!
Boy they have all the youtubers promoting Bollie Brand stuff now in vlogs and IG stories!
Not everyone dies from a widowmaker heart attack. Rosie O'Donnell suffered one a few years ago. One of my Mom's childhood friends had a widowmaker heart attack about 20 years ago and he is still with us and is about to celebrate his 66th birthday this month. Now my step-father suffered one in December and sadly did not make it despite our best efforts (it took the ambulance 20 minutes to get here).
Was the ticket just a warning or an actual ticket? I sure hope it was a ticket!
Guess these junky vlogs are supposed to be their improved content we were promised when they dropped down to 3 a day! Jared is getting more annoying if that is possible with Bryan and Missy there!
So sorry about your stepfather! Rapid access to emergency services is definitely the key in surviving any heart attack.
Ellie and Jared both make me mad because of the irresponsible way they talk about health conditions as though they know what they are talking about. People actually listen to them, which I don't understand, but hey-- seeing through facades isn't everyone's strong suit. Like PT Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute". Funny they didn't include that line in "The Greatest Showman".
Tiger27 wrote:
When the fuck is Ellie going to try an actual anti-anxiety medication for her anxiety?! Throwing random hormones at it probably just exacerbated her mental issues because it makes her physical symptoms worse.
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When she actually goes and actual care which I do not for a second believes she needs other than therapy where she is actually honest. Ellie is just not happy that she has to work and take care of her family and house. She hides from her responsibilities by saying she has anxiety.
Ellie wanted her perfect life because that is all she knew. She would be perfectly fine is she ate better and left Jared and lived single and part time only custody of the kids.
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I disagree here. I think she for sure has a mental illness that should be medicated (multiple disorders come to mind, I won’t get into that). I 100% think she should be seeing a legitimate therapist also (who knows if she’s just seeing a counselor from her church right now). She has disordered eating and doesn’t seemed fulfilled by anything in her life...she obsesses over every symptom she experiences and throws hokey treatments at it. She has a “perfect” life on paper, the fact that she’s still anxious, unhappy, and exhibiting disordered behavior points to me that there’s deeper issues going on than just being a spoiled princess.
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That's what I mean she needs actual therapy and to be actually Honest about her behaviours with her therapist/psychologist including how she eats. However, she makes it out to be that she has some great illness and I don't think she has anymore issue than anyone else in this day and age. Most people figure out how to deal with it and if they can work out a solution because they don't have the luxury to wallow in their own self pity. This is where you may disagree but I really think it's all a HUGE excuse to not show up to life each day because she's not happy and to get babied. Jared apparently has real cause for concern about his health but it's still all about poor sick Ellie.
I believe Ellie would be fine if she would take her meds that any REAL doctor would prescribe, eat a decent amount and healthy meals. Talk to a REAL MENTAL HEALTH THERAPIST about her anxiety. Not quack doctors, but real MD's, licensed, board recognized doctors and therapists. Her eating disorder also effects your brain and thinking function. She needs to drink water, if not it will play havoc on body organs. All her ailments can be straightened out with relatively easy solutions. As someone said, Ellie likes the attention, being babied and having an excuse to stay in bed, leaving the responsibility of the kids care for Jared.
It always amazed me how full of life Ellie gets when she is doing what she wants, weekend get aways, Bollie Business trips, no responsibilities, and can act single.
sheltiefan wrote:
He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!
Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.
When the fuck is Ellie going to try an actual anti-anxiety medication for her anxiety?! Throwing random hormones at it probably just exacerbated her mental issues because it makes her physical symptoms worse.
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When she actually goes and actual care which I do not for a second believes she needs other than therapy where she is actually honest. Ellie is just not happy that she has to work and take care of her family and house. She hides from her responsibilities by saying she has anxiety.
Ellie wanted her perfect life because that is all she knew. She would be perfectly fine is she ate better and left Jared and lived single and part time only custody of the kids.
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She'd make a great flight attendant. Traveling everyday would be enough motivation for her to hold down a job.
I suffer from fairly significant anxiety, but I have sought out ways to manage and deal with it so I can handle my life. This includes not having more children (or pets) than I can handle, and being careful about the changes we make at home. I put an extensive amount of thought into every decision I make, and so do my friends with anxiety. I don’t see this in Ellie. I agree that she uses anxiety as an excuse to get out of things she doesn’t want to deal with. This isn’t real anxiety imo. She also doesn’t appear to have even half the guilt for her anxiety that those with legit anxiety have. If anything she is indignant about defending the things she says she can’t deal with.
I do agree she has issues and would benefit from therapy however.
Todays drama wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:01 pm
I believe Ellie would be fine if she would take her meds that any REAL doctor would prescribe, eat a decent amount and healthy meals. Talk to a REAL MENTAL HEALTH THERAPIST about her anxiety. Not quack doctors, but real MD's, licensed, board recognized doctors and therapists. Her eating disorder also effects your brain and thinking function. She needs to drink water, if not it will play havoc on body organs. All her ailments can be straightened out with relatively easy solutions. As someone said, Ellie likes the attention, being babied and having an excuse to stay in bed, leaving the responsibility of the kids care for Jared.
It always amazed me how full of life Ellie gets when she is doing what she wants, weekend get aways, Bollie Business trips, no responsibilities, and can act single.
100%. I fully believe Ellie is suffering from something, but not what she claims. If she had even half the things wrong with her she claims she certainly wouldn’t perk up when it’s time for a trip.
Actually, I think a large part of what’s “wrong” with Ellie is simple boredom.