GQS: Short Boar, Forest Whore & Feral Four | Part 63

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Rileysmomma wrote:
Bagwell2018 wrote:I actually made it through the entire Shumway vlog mainly because my husband is a pilot and we have a small twin engine plane similar to what they were flying.

I’m not going to be a total self righteous person but most plane crashes are caused by pilot error. That can also be a mechanical failure as well if the pilot didn’t maintain the plane properly. So many things were handled so incorrectly and lives were lost. It’s horrible


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I watched the vlog and found this story interesting, so I did a little Googling. The NTSB found pilot error, which is pretty easy to figure out since they ran out of fuel. A news article said the pilot (Michelle's dad) passed up 2 opportunities to refuel and chose instead to continue to their final destination, even after an air traffic controller gave him directions to a closer airport. The real tragedy is that it happened at all.

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Thank you for your additional info. I’d love to read what you found but not sure what you used as far as search terms. I didn’t watch the vlog. Who is Michelle? Also any feedback on AssleyOphrah?


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Rileysmomma wrote:
Bagwell2018 wrote:I actually made it through the entire Shumway vlog mainly because my husband is a pilot and we have a small twin engine plane similar to what they were flying.

I’m not going to be a total self righteous person but most plane crashes are caused by pilot error. That can also be a mechanical failure as well if the pilot didn’t maintain the plane properly. So many things were handled so incorrectly and lives were lost. It’s horrible


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I watched the vlog and found this story interesting, so I did a little Googling. The NTSB found pilot error, which is pretty easy to figure out since they ran out of fuel. A news article said the pilot (Michelle's dad) passed up 2 opportunities to refuel and chose instead to continue to their final destination, even after an air traffic controller gave him directions to a closer airport. The real tragedy is that it happened at all.

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Thank you for your additional info. I’d love to read what you found but not sure what you used as far as search terms. I didn’t watch the vlog. Who is Michelle? Also any feedback on AssleyOphrah?


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Michelle Shumway, owner of Rad Swim. It was a boys fishing weekend in Alaska, so everyone on the plane was related (some by marriage). https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/ ... 45a78.html


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I have been absent in posting lately. I have been enjoying hiking with my family, and generally just spending time.

I catch up here when I can, and thank you ladies for the insight of the catastrophe that is the Greeds.

I tried this afternoon to watch “The Twatley Show” on invideous (no views to them, no ads for me), but I gave up after a few minutes. I couldn’t take her voice.

Lately I have found them to be so boring on Instagram, only because there is nothing new to snark on. It just the same sh!t different day.

I just thought I’d pop on and thank you for keeping me up to date


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DisgustedbyGreedners wrote:
Bagwell2018 wrote:I actually made it through the entire Shumway vlog mainly because my husband is a pilot and we have a small twin engine plane similar to what they were flying.

I’m not going to be a total self righteous person but most plane crashes are caused by pilot error. That can also be a mechanical failure as well if the pilot didn’t maintain the plane properly. So many things were handled so incorrectly and lives were lost. It’s horrible


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So what was the big take away from the vlog? Did Assley spread love and light? What trial did Shumway overcome from this experience? We’re there any cringeworthy moments?


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No idea what the take away is supposed to be, besides that he had survival instinct skills, which is innate in pretty much everyone.

The real tragedy is the people that died and the family and friends that had to deal with the loss, and that was barely even touched on at all.


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I finally watched the latest Oprah special.. So many thoughts but is the wife a robot? The husband is gay, right? Odd all the cities mentioned are all cities in that Alaskan TV show.. Life below zero
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Rileysmomma wrote:
Bagwell2018 wrote:I actually made it through the entire Shumway vlog mainly because my husband is a pilot and we have a small twin engine plane similar to what they were flying.

I’m not going to be a total self righteous person but most plane crashes are caused by pilot error. That can also be a mechanical failure as well if the pilot didn’t maintain the plane properly. So many things were handled so incorrectly and lives were lost. It’s horrible


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I watched the vlog and found this story interesting, so I did a little Googling. The NTSB found pilot error, which is pretty easy to figure out since they ran out of fuel. A news article said the pilot (Michelle's dad) passed up 2 opportunities to refuel and chose instead to continue to their final destination, even after an air traffic controller gave him directions to a closer airport. The real tragedy is that it happened at all.

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Was he suicidal?
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DisgustedbyGreedners wrote:
Bagwell2018 wrote:I actually made it through the entire Shumway vlog mainly because my husband is a pilot and we have a small twin engine plane similar to what they were flying.

I’m not going to be a total self righteous person but most plane crashes are caused by pilot error. That can also be a mechanical failure as well if the pilot didn’t maintain the plane properly. So many things were handled so incorrectly and lives were lost. It’s horrible


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So what was the big take away from the vlog? Did Assley spread love and light? What trial did Shumway overcome from this experience? We’re there any cringeworthy moments?


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I’m still waiting for all the warm feelings to wash over me? I’m not feeling uplifted or better about myself either. I’ll let you know if I suddenly find myself overcoming obstacles because this family suffered.


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Rileysmomma wrote:
DisgustedbyGreedners wrote:
Rileysmomma wrote:I watched the vlog and found this story interesting, so I did a little Googling. The NTSB found pilot error, which is pretty easy to figure out since they ran out of fuel. A news article said the pilot (Michelle's dad) passed up 2 opportunities to refuel and chose instead to continue to their final destination, even after an air traffic controller gave him directions to a closer airport. The real tragedy is that it happened at all.

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Thank you for your additional info. I’d love to read what you found but not sure what you used as far as search terms. I didn’t watch the vlog. Who is Michelle? Also any feedback on AssleyOphrah?


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Michelle Shumway, owner of Rad Swim. It was a boys fishing weekend in Alaska, so everyone on the plane was related (some by marriage). https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/ ... 45a78.html


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Thanks for the link! Is talked to my husband earlier and he was going to try and look it up tonight. He likes to pick apart things because sometime he can learn from them although I think he’s pretty good about knowing when we need fuel. I can even see those gages.


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spoiled2bits wrote:
Rileysmomma wrote:
Bagwell2018 wrote:I actually made it through the entire Shumway vlog mainly because my husband is a pilot and we have a small twin engine plane similar to what they were flying.

I’m not going to be a total self righteous person but most plane crashes are caused by pilot error. That can also be a mechanical failure as well if the pilot didn’t maintain the plane properly. So many things were handled so incorrectly and lives were lost. It’s horrible


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I watched the vlog and found this story interesting, so I did a little Googling. The NTSB found pilot error, which is pretty easy to figure out since they ran out of fuel. A news article said the pilot (Michelle's dad) passed up 2 opportunities to refuel and chose instead to continue to their final destination, even after an air traffic controller gave him directions to a closer airport. The real tragedy is that it happened at all.

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Was he suicidal?
Honestly I think he was cocky. A pilot knows his plane and he obviously totally misjudged this one.


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So michelles father, brother, and uncles died in the crash? Am i taking that from the article. Father and son and brother in laws to the father?

How freaken awful for all involved. Im sure he loved reliving that

Did they win the lawsuit??
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So khyl (awful spelling btw) did a podcast 8 days ago

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.listen ... vJhMb/amp/
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DisgustedbyGreedners wrote:
Rileysmomma wrote:Gold stars for the sissies who said Ass would interview Khyl Shumway about the plane crash for her Oprah show. It's disgusting how she's using her family and "friends" to try and increase views. Why doesn't she tell us her own traumatic story that she alluded to when this started?

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She’s so nauseating when she talks about her calling to spread love and light to the world by exploiting everyone’s trials. She should have shared her trial first but chickened out and said she wasn’t ready. Does this mean for the grand finale we will finally learn what caused Assley’s anxiety? She claimed she suffers from it. Seriously what could this spoiled and entitled pathetic excuse for a mother have legitimate anxiety about? Was it from living in Mimi’s basement because her pedophile husband wasn’t making enough money at the Tux shop or as a waiter at Wingers to support her in the manner she fantasized about? She’s the youngest of three and it’s blatantly obvious she was spoiled rotten as a child so I highly doubt it’s from her childhood.

In all seriousness what could possibly be the cause of her earth shattering anxiety that she’s not ready to talk about? In addition, how does sharing someone else’s trials bring light to the world? Maybe Tylard could write a blog about that.


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Her anxiety is probably about people finding out about her lies. Her whole existence is a lie. She is very afraid of the real truth being uncovered. And it will happen, I just don't know exactly when. If she would just be honest she wouldn't have to be so anxious. Boo yah!

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Rileysmomma wrote:Gold stars for the sissies who said Ass would interview Khyl Shumway about the plane crash for her Oprah show. It's disgusting how she's using her family and "friends" to try and increase views. Why doesn't she tell us her own traumatic story that she alluded to when this started?

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Because she knows there are too many holes in her story and she is going to be found out by millions of people. Everyone will know shes a fraud. She can't remember her own story because she has lied too many times, there are too many variations, she can't keep it straight. Lies, all lies.

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Haulnarse wrote:So michelles father, brother, and uncles died in the crash? Am i taking that from the article. Father and son and brother in laws to the father?

How freaken awful for all involved. Im sure he loved reliving that Image

Did they win the lawsuit??
What lawsuit would there be if it was pilot error and he didn't refuel? If the pilot chose to keep going when air traffic control directed him to a closer airport, there wouldn't be much of a case.
Not snarking on you. Just amazed at the litigiousness of our society once again. I didn't watch, so maybe I am speaking out of turn.
Unless the family sued dad's estate? Which would be some serious drama.

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lmmomSD wrote:
Haulnarse wrote:So michelles father, brother, and uncles died in the crash? Am i taking that from the article. Father and son and brother in laws to the father?

How freaken awful for all involved. Im sure he loved reliving that Image

Did they win the lawsuit??
What lawsuit would there be if it was pilot error and he didn't refuel? If the pilot chose to keep going when air traffic control directed him to a closer airport, there wouldn't be much of a case.
Not snarking on you. Just amazed at the litigiousness of our society once again. I didn't watch, so maybe I am speaking out of turn.
Unless the family sued dad's estate? Which would be some serious drama.

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The wife of one of the brother in laws of the pilot sued the estate of the dead pilot for $2mil. She had a 2yr old child at the time.

Totes fair enough, the pilots MASSIVE error in judgement caused the deaths of four people, himself included. If he had survived he’d probably be in jail!
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Kyle Shumway has changed his name from Khyl to Kyle.
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lmmomSD wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:17 pm
Haulnarse wrote:So michelles father, brother, and uncles died in the crash? Am i taking that from the article. Father and son and brother in laws to the father?

How freaken awful for all involved. Im sure he loved reliving that Image

Did they win the lawsuit??
What lawsuit would there be if it was pilot error and he didn't refuel? If the pilot chose to keep going when air traffic control directed him to a closer airport, there wouldn't be much of a case.
Not snarking on you. Just amazed at the litigiousness of our society once again. I didn't watch, so maybe I am speaking out of turn.
Unless the family sued dad's estate? Which would be some serious drama.

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That would be the better story. Was he not in Dad's will and had to sue for his inheritance? You guys are tempting me to actually watch the video now....
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https://www.legacy.com/amp/obituaries/s ... ne/1198986

Of course he is painted as a family man, trying to save his son. Donations to a fund for the son of one of the guys who died. Bloody mormons, no offence - they always seem to paint everything flowers and sunshine.

The guy made a fatal error that killed three others.
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Bagwell2018 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:31 pm
DisgustedbyGreedners wrote:
Bagwell2018 wrote:I actually made it through the entire Shumway vlog mainly because my husband is a pilot and we have a small twin engine plane similar to what they were flying.

I’m not going to be a total self righteous person but most plane crashes are caused by pilot error. That can also be a mechanical failure as well if the pilot didn’t maintain the plane properly. So many things were handled so incorrectly and lives were lost. It’s horrible


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So what was the big take away from the vlog? Did Assley spread love and light? What trial did Shumway overcome from this experience? We’re there any cringeworthy moments?


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I’m still waiting for all the warm feelings to wash over me? I’m not feeling uplifted or better about myself either. I’ll let you know if I suddenly find myself overcoming obstacles because this family suffered.


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I’d be interested in knowing whether talk show host wannabe Trashley :roll: just let him tell his story or with her lack of education, training and experience in this field did she ask questions and dig for information that he may not have been willing to talk about voluntarily? More importantly I’m curious to know whether Trashley provided details of who viewers should reach out to in a professional sense should the interview have raised personal issues for them? I know not many people survive a plane crash so there’s only a small possibility of somebody else that’s also survived a plane crash stumbling across her vlog. However, it can raise issues for those that have been in similar traumatic events, such as a major car accident with fatalities, without the viewer even making the connection to their own trauma until they’re well into watching the vlog.
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Haulnarse wrote:
lmmomSD wrote:
Haulnarse wrote:So michelles father, brother, and uncles died in the crash? Am i taking that from the article. Father and son and brother in laws to the father?

How freaken awful for all involved. Im sure he loved reliving that Image

Did they win the lawsuit??
What lawsuit would there be if it was pilot error and he didn't refuel? If the pilot chose to keep going when air traffic control directed him to a closer airport, there wouldn't be much of a case.
Not snarking on you. Just amazed at the litigiousness of our society once again. I didn't watch, so maybe I am speaking out of turn.
Unless the family sued dad's estate? Which would be some serious drama.

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The wife of one of the brother in laws of the pilot sued the estate of the dead pilot for $2mil. She had a 2yr old child at the time.

Totes fair enough, the pilots MASSIVE error in judgement caused the deaths of four people, himself included. If he had survived he’d probably be in jail!
I think Gary (pilot) was remarried. So Michelle's stepmom had 2 brothers (Gordon and Adam) who both died in the crash. I also found a suit brought by the other brother Adam's girlfriend, who found out she was pregnant 2-3 weeks after he died. Her case was dismissed because she filed after the statute of limitations ran. This could be a movie of the week.

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