And also having the camera right in your face while you're sniveling and snorting and crying in your bed. It's so intrusive. And I absolutely don't care if she said she was "okay with living a very open and vulnerable life"kates_crush wrote:I couldn't imagine living in a house with that many siblings with a mother and father who don't make it a priority to make each and every child feel special. The only time we see ruby spending quality one on one time with the kids is a "talk" on camera. I always feel so bad for julie, from having her birthdays ruined, to having to fake sick to get out of school, to being told that she'll never be amazing at gymnastics, to never getting any thoughtful gifts... How can a mother never know what to get their children for christmas or birthdays, they are YOUR kids, you should have a whole list running in your head of things you know they would love. I will never get over how unorganized ruby is, for having that many kids, I don't know how she managed to make it this far in life.
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I think Shari handled the puzzle thing fine as well.
On the other hand, talking about Shari... didn't she say she scored 1200 and something on her pre-SAT? And her dad told her she could basically go IVY with that? WTF. We had the same score range (out of 1600) when I was a teen and with 1390 I went to a decent east coast school. Ivy kids score almost perfect, one of my friends went to Harvard and she scored 1590 out of 1600.
Shari's in for a surprise. Utah standards don't cut it in the real world.
On the other hand, talking about Shari... didn't she say she scored 1200 and something on her pre-SAT? And her dad told her she could basically go IVY with that? WTF. We had the same score range (out of 1600) when I was a teen and with 1390 I went to a decent east coast school. Ivy kids score almost perfect, one of my friends went to Harvard and she scored 1590 out of 1600.
Shari's in for a surprise. Utah standards don't cut it in the real world.
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Yeah, I scored 1250, and got into the University of California system, but I had _no_ delusions that I could get into Ivy League with those scores. I did beat my ex-husband's scores, which really bugged him. He went to USNA.AlexVause wrote:I think Shari handled the puzzle thing fine as well.
On the other hand, talking about Shari... didn't she say she scored 1200 and something on her pre-SAT? And her dad told her she could basically go IVY with that? WTF. We had the same score range (out of 1600) when I was a teen and with 1390 I went to a decent east coast school. Ivy kids score almost perfect, one of my friends went to Harvard and she scored 1590 out of 1600.
Shari's in for a surprise. Utah standards don't cut it in the real world.
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Shari got 1280. I don't really know what that means as I'm in Canada, but from what I've read I don't think it's quite Ivy league?
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Google says 1590 for Harvard...
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I completely agree about how sad this is. For the sake of discussion though, these words could be applied to Ruby, Ellie and Bonnie (I don’t watch Julie so I have no idea), which leads me to assume they were raised in the same way. This doesn’t excuse their behaviour, but it does make it more understandable. How can you put your kids first and see them as little individuals with needs and feelings if you were never treated that way? Maybe you can... I don’t know. These Griffiths kids aren’t just going to grow up dealing with the issues YT brings, but are also going to grow up to be just like their parents. Shallow, selfish and fake individuals that use their children as accessories for their image. That’s the real sad part. These kids don’t stand much of a chance.kates_crush wrote:I couldn't imagine living in a house with that many siblings with a mother and father who don't make it a priority to make each and every child feel special. The only time we see ruby spending quality one on one time with the kids is a "talk" on camera. I always feel so bad for julie, from having her birthdays ruined, to having to fake sick to get out of school, to being told that she'll never be amazing at gymnastics, to never getting any thoughtful gifts... How can a mother never know what to get their children for christmas or birthdays, they are YOUR kids, you should have a whole list running in your head of things you know they would love. I will never get over how unorganized ruby is, for having that many kids, I don't know how she managed to make it this far in life.
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Ruby’s IG was sad. Happy bday Julie..oh by the way she was a helmet baby and it was hard to snuggle her because her head was smelly and sweaty. WTF..she needs to learn to shut up. If Julie has to wear one it’s most likely your own fault. Too much time on back. My nephew had to wear one..they left him on back or in car seat ..never got held or at least tummy time. Very sad.
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I have so much hate for this woman. Oh my God. Why is she such an idiot
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I REALLY want to comment on that post and say “Are you F’ing Serious right now??”Catface2 wrote:Ruby’s IG was sad. Happy bday Julie..oh by the way she was a helmet baby and it was hard to snuggle her because her head was smelly and sweaty. WTF..she needs to learn to shut up. If Julie has to wear one it’s most likely your own fault. Too much time on back. My nephew had to wear one..they left him on back or in car seat ..never got held or at least tummy time. Very sad.
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Catface2 wrote:Ruby’s IG was sad. Happy bday Julie..oh by the way she was a helmet baby and it was hard to snuggle her because her head was smelly and sweaty. WTF..she needs to learn to shut up. If Julie has to wear one it’s most likely your own fault. Too much time on back. My nephew had to wear one..they left him on back or in car seat ..never got held or at least tummy time. Very sad.
My daughter had to wear one because of the way she was positioned in utero. Also, with the back to sleep campaign (which is a good thing), helmets are increasingly common. It is not a sure fire sign of being laid down and neglected. Sorry.
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I think this is more likely. The only thing he Griffiths like about babies is snuggling them when they are new. By the time they are 6 months old and more mobile they are pretty much laid down on the floor for the other children to entertain and play around. Ruby’s comment she couldn’t snuggle her makes me think the helmet was used when she was still of prime snuggling age.Sweetiebee wrote:
My daughter had to wear one because of the way she was positioned in utero. Also, with the back to sleep campaign (which is a good thing), helmets are increasingly common. It is not a sure fire sign of being laid down and neglected. Sorry.
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The birthday helmet comment is appalling. I doubt if Julie had a helmet because she was neglected, though.
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I didn't even watch the video except to skip around just to see if the whole dang thing was seriously just of Julie's sad face. If I was a family vlogger that would be one of those moments where I wouldn't film, but just mention it while filming something else that day. Something like, "Unfortunately, Julie's not having a good day, because her birthday party blah blah blah. If she's feeling better later today and wants to share with you guys about it, I might show that later in this vlog."natalka81 wrote: And also having the camera right in your face while you're sniveling and snorting and crying in your bed. It's so intrusive. And I absolutely don't care if she said she was "okay with living a very open and vulnerable life"
As an aside, I know it's a bit of an 'in vogue' topic, but I wonder how the idea of consent plays into a lot of these family vlogs. A clearly intelligent, high school age kid like Shari is one thing, but can a nine year old really consent to having vulnerable/difficult moments like these filmed and put out there for hundreds of thousands to see, including those in her own town who might know her from school or elsewhere? Especially when it's her mom doing the filming and possibly telling her off camera in a subtle way "I know it's hard sometimes, but this is Mommy's job and it makes our family a lot of money, so you need to play along.'
I get the feeling some of these kids (Ruby's, Bonnie's, Tannerites/Yawi, etc) are going to really resent their parents once they're out of the house and looking back on their childhoods. Then again, we don't live on farms or in the rural woods of the 1800's anymore, so I don't know why you'd even think about having more than three or four kids at the most, especially if you're not in a situation where both parents are making a high salary. Just my opinion!
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I don’t think a child should even be able to consent. There are too many pressures on them to say yes. It’s not like the parent isn’t going to heavily influence their decision.
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Adding to my point about how the Griffiths were raised with similar distinction...
Grandpa Griff can’t make a birthday post that doesn’t include Jennifer. Half the comments are about how great Jennifer looks instead of being about Julie. I’m guessing nothing was ever about Ruby growing up either. [img]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201901 ... 5ae032.jpg[/img]
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Grandpa Griff can’t make a birthday post that doesn’t include Jennifer. Half the comments are about how great Jennifer looks instead of being about Julie. I’m guessing nothing was ever about Ruby growing up either. [img]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201901 ... 5ae032.jpg[/img]
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I know many babies need helmets for reasons completely out of the parents’ controls, but I think there is a good chance Julie’s head shape was related to neglect...we’ll obviously never know but considering this is the lady that let Russell’s femur fracture go for a week before seeking medical care (which is 1000% neglect), I wouldn’t be surprised. Julie was born right in the midst of Ruby’s roughest patch as a mother. They were poor, she had already had several miscarriages, I believe this is when she had the pill issue she has alluded to, and she had 4 little kids at home already...she was in way over her head. She talked about how it was a big deal once that she gave baby Julie a bath and a fresh set of clothes because she was getting really smelly, like that was some sort of major accomplishment and act of love to bathe her child. From the tiny tidbits we’ve heard about the Julie and Russell years, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if there was more neglect going on.
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HelloSweetie wrote:I don’t think a child should even be able to consent. There are too many pressures on them to say yes. It’s not like the parent isn’t going to heavily influence their decision.
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I agree. Even the teenagers. They don't know anything. I would've agreed to things as a teen that might mortify me now.
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plus, it didn't even have to be such a drama. First of all it was again Ruby getting things mixed up which led to Julie being sad. And then the problem could have been solved easily: Ruby could have asked Bonnie if they could go snow tubing a week later, or just go snow tubing on that Saturday and postpone the birthday party at that chocolate place for a week and do it the next Saturday. The parents could have solved the situation easily without bringing Julie in the position of having to choose who to disappoint.ctx2002 wrote:I didn't even watch the video except to skip around just to see if the whole dang thing was seriously just of Julie's sad face. If I was a family vlogger that would be one of those moments where I wouldn't film, but just mention it while filming something else that day. Something like, "Unfortunately, Julie's not having a good day, because her birthday party blah blah blah. If she's feeling better later today and wants to share with you guys about it, I might show that later in this vlog."natalka81 wrote: And also having the camera right in your face while you're sniveling and snorting and crying in your bed. It's so intrusive. And I absolutely don't care if she said she was "okay with living a very open and vulnerable life"
As an aside, I know it's a bit of an 'in vogue' topic, but I wonder how the idea of consent plays into a lot of these family vlogs. A clearly intelligent, high school age kid like Shari is one thing, but can a nine year old really consent to having vulnerable/difficult moments like these filmed and put out there for hundreds of thousands to see, including those in her own town who might know her from school or elsewhere? Especially when it's her mom doing the filming and possibly telling her off camera in a subtle way "I know it's hard sometimes, but this is Mommy's job and it makes our family a lot of money, so you need to play along.'
I get the feeling some of these kids (Ruby's, Bonnie's, Tannerites/Yawi, etc) are going to really resent their parents once they're out of the house and looking back on their childhoods. Then again, we don't live on farms or in the rural woods of the 1800's anymore, so I don't know why you'd even think about having more than three or four kids at the most, especially if you're not in a situation where both parents are making a high salary. Just my opinion!
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I didn't even watch the video except to skip around just to see if the whole dang thing was seriously just of Julie's sad face. If I was a family vlogger that would be one of those moments where I wouldn't film, but just mention it while filming something else that day. Something like, "Unfortunately, Julie's not having a good day, because her birthday party blah blah blah. If she's feeling better later today and wants to share with you guys about it, I might show that later in this vlog."
As an aside, I know it's a bit of an 'in vogue' topic, but I wonder how the idea of consent plays into a lot of these family vlogs. A clearly intelligent, high school age kid like Shari is one thing, but can a nine year old really consent to having vulnerable/difficult moments like these filmed and put out there for hundreds of thousands to see, including those in her own town who might know her from school or elsewhere? Especially when it's her mom doing the filming and possibly telling her off camera in a subtle way "I know it's hard sometimes, but this is Mommy's job and it makes our family a lot of money, so you need to play along.'
I get the feeling some of these kids (Ruby's, Bonnie's, Tannerites/Yawi, etc) are going to really resent their parents once they're out of the house and looking back on their childhoods. Then again, we don't live on farms or in the rural woods of the 1800's anymore, so I don't know why you'd even think about having more than three or four kids at the most, especially if you're not in a situation where both parents are making a high salary. Just my opinion![/quote]
plus, it didn't even have to be such a drama. First of all it was again Ruby getting things mixed up which led to Julie being sad. And then the problem could have been solved easily: Ruby could have asked Bonnie if they could go snow tubing a week later, or just go snow tubing on that Saturday and postpone the birthday party at that chocolate place for a week and do it the next Saturday. The parents could have solved the situation easily without bringing Julie in the position of having to choose who to disappoint.[/quote]
I just think that Ruby enjoys disappointing Julie. She loves putting out Julies sad face, you can see it in her. All Julies birthdays have been ruined in some way by Ruby. I think that this is Ruby's compensation for acting nice to Julie during 2018 because we all know that she despise her own child for some reason, typical narcissistic mother.
As an aside, I know it's a bit of an 'in vogue' topic, but I wonder how the idea of consent plays into a lot of these family vlogs. A clearly intelligent, high school age kid like Shari is one thing, but can a nine year old really consent to having vulnerable/difficult moments like these filmed and put out there for hundreds of thousands to see, including those in her own town who might know her from school or elsewhere? Especially when it's her mom doing the filming and possibly telling her off camera in a subtle way "I know it's hard sometimes, but this is Mommy's job and it makes our family a lot of money, so you need to play along.'
I get the feeling some of these kids (Ruby's, Bonnie's, Tannerites/Yawi, etc) are going to really resent their parents once they're out of the house and looking back on their childhoods. Then again, we don't live on farms or in the rural woods of the 1800's anymore, so I don't know why you'd even think about having more than three or four kids at the most, especially if you're not in a situation where both parents are making a high salary. Just my opinion![/quote]
plus, it didn't even have to be such a drama. First of all it was again Ruby getting things mixed up which led to Julie being sad. And then the problem could have been solved easily: Ruby could have asked Bonnie if they could go snow tubing a week later, or just go snow tubing on that Saturday and postpone the birthday party at that chocolate place for a week and do it the next Saturday. The parents could have solved the situation easily without bringing Julie in the position of having to choose who to disappoint.[/quote]
I just think that Ruby enjoys disappointing Julie. She loves putting out Julies sad face, you can see it in her. All Julies birthdays have been ruined in some way by Ruby. I think that this is Ruby's compensation for acting nice to Julie during 2018 because we all know that she despise her own child for some reason, typical narcissistic mother.
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It didn't have to be drama. It could have easily been fixed. Ruby made a conscious decision to GO OUT OF HER WAY and make her daughter cry .... FOR MONEY. Don't let the sweet, ditzy, facade of these Griffith sisters fool you. Imagine being a mom who thinks, "I'm going to get out the camera, knowing my kid is going to cry, use it for clickbait, thumbnails, views, whatever, for money." Tell me how that isn't evil?