Steps to Avoiding Responsibility - Part 5

[Playsinrain]

I think it’s really selfish of her to wean June right now. They are going to be moving in the next couple of weeks which will be like the 8th place this kid has slept in the past 5 months. Nursing at bedtime is her comfort and security and they are taking that away from her! They should wait until they are settled in their new home.

Also, I love how they talk about how all of this has been so stressful for them, yet they can never admit that it might be a lot on June as well. June can’t use words to tell them how she’s feeling, but I’m sure she’s showing signs of stress from all of this too!


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Ehhh.. i'm all for extended breastfeeding, but shes almost 2 at this point, she should have self soothing methods established, and if not, this is a great time for her to learn. She's never been in a stable home(other than when they were in CA), so i can't see how moving again would be disruptive to her... constantly moving IS her norm. If Kelsey is ready to stop then i support her decision, she's already BFed her for longer than a large percentage of mothers do, so i certainly dont see it as selfish. If kelsey is ready for her body to be her own for a while before she gets pregnant again then i'm all for that. At almost 2 she should be able to learn how put herself to sleep without nursing. There are plenty of other ways for Kelsey to comfort her and make her feel secure without nursing her.

[ewokfan11]

Damn! I've never seen two people so ready to move—this time Kelsey. I've always put a little buffer around the move-in date because anything can still happen. I mean, do they even have a moving truck? Have they changed over all of the utilities?

To be so dead set on moving in the same day as closing seems like a stressful plan—especially if they don't know when they are getting the keys.

Like I said before, they have stressful lives because THEY make life more stressful than it needs to be. They don't have jobs to schedule moving around, so why not do it over a few days and NOT stress out?!

That being said, I am interested in seeing the house.

Also, he said his parents are out of town. If they were cosigning the mortgage wouldn't they have to be present at closing as well? Maybe they just have them a big lump sum for the downpayment? I still find it crazy they could qualify for a mortgage on their own.

[Playsinrain]

Damn! I've never seen two people so ready to move—this time Kelsey. I've always put a little buffer around the move-in date because anything can still happen. I mean, do they even have a moving truck? Have they changed over all of the utilities?

To be so dead set on moving in the same day as closing seems like a stressful plan—especially if they don't know when they are getting the keys.

Like I said before, they have stressful lives because THEY make life more stressful than it needs to be. They don't have jobs to schedule moving around, so why not do it over a few days and NOT stress out?!

That being said, I am interested in seeing the house.

Also, he said his parents are out of town. If they were cosigning the mortgage wouldn't they have to be present at closing as well? Maybe they just have them a big lump sum for the downpayment? I still find it crazy they could qualify for a mortgage on their own.

Not to mention closings can be delayed at the LAST POSSIBLE SECOND... oh the drama that will ensue if that happens. Can you imagine how the world will be against them if something like that goes down.. LMAOOOO "CLOSING DELAY CAUSES INFERTILITY"

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I am detecting controlling issues and anger in little Juniper , ofcourse it is not the babies fault she mirrors her parents like she does speech. She doesn’t seem to understand no and demands they cater immediately to what she wants and immediately angers if it does not happen. I am making it clear it is not the babies fault but is this what she is seeing and mirroring. Control and short fuse!?

[jmoysa]

I’m wondering about this house. It’s been about 3 weeks since they started this whole thing. That seems very, very quick unless 1. The house is vacant and 2. They’re (his parents) are paying cash for it. I know it’s much faster to close escrow if you pay cash and I’m just not seeing them qualify for a loan. If the cash offer is what they did, they wouldn’t have to qualify for a loan, his parents wouldn’t have to take the risk of being co-signers and Corbin could kept up his YouTube career since there wouldn’t be a mortgage.

It’ll depend on the price of the home which I’m beginning to think might be pretty low. He’s thinking he can make all the other bills on their own.

He’s just so weird.


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[ewokfan11]

I’m wondering about this house. It’s been about 3 weeks since they started this whole thing. That seems very, very quick unless 1. The house is vacant and 2. They’re (his parents) are paying cash for it. I know it’s much faster to close escrow if you pay cash and I’m just not seeing them qualify for a loan. If the cash offer is what they did, they wouldn’t have to qualify for a loan, his parents wouldn’t have to take the risk of being co-signers and Corbin could kept up his YouTube career since there wouldn’t be a mortgage.

It’ll depend on the price of the home which I’m beginning to think might be pretty low. He’s thinking he can make all the other bills on their own.

He’s just so weird.

I was wondering about the timeline too, but I think they delayed the announcement about the house by at least a week on the vlogs. I think their offer was accepted late December or first week of January. They were definitely fudging with the timeline in the vlogs around the time of the inspection.

They definitely aren't paying cash. I paid cash for my current house and we closed in about 14 days and the process was super simple and FAST. I think Corbin even said offering cash wasn't in their budget. Also, his parents might have a comfortable suburban lifestyle, but they don't seem to be the type to have $200K+ in the bank or to quickly liquidate for their lazy son to get a free house.

[jmoysa]

I’m wondering about this house. It’s been about 3 weeks since they started this whole thing. That seems very, very quick unless 1. The house is vacant and 2. They’re (his parents) are paying cash for it. I know it’s much faster to close escrow if you pay cash and I’m just not seeing them qualify for a loan. If the cash offer is what they did, they wouldn’t have to qualify for a loan, his parents wouldn’t have to take the risk of being co-signers and Corbin could kept up his YouTube career since there wouldn’t be a mortgage.

It’ll depend on the price of the home which I’m beginning to think might be pretty low. He’s thinking he can make all the other bills on their own.

He’s just so weird.

I was wondering about the timeline too, but I think they delayed the announcement about the house by at least a week on the vlogs. I think their offer was accepted late December or first week of January. They were definitely fudging with the timeline in the vlogs around the time of the inspection.

They definitely aren't paying cash. I paid cash for my current house and we closed in about 14 days and the process was super simple and FAST. I think Corbin even said offering cash wasn't in their budget. Also, his parents might have a comfortable suburban lifestyle, but they don't seem to be the type to have $200K+ in the bank or to quickly to liquidate for their lazy son to get a free house.

I really didn’t want think they were paying cash but the timeline is just so off. You’re right about them jerking with the vlogs

I also agree about his parents. They do seem better off than her mom. If that was their backyard they showed June plAying in, I was surprised knowing his dad does pools and outdoor areas. I have a feeling it may have been her moms, but the way he edits clips makes things confusing.

We paid cash for a house and like you, it was about 2 weeks but these two lie about everything so who really knows (they even get mixed up with their stories).



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[HashtagBlessed]

I have no knowledge of how one goes about weaning, but I’m sure there are lots of resources out there (and I see people sharing them in the comments) and I’m sure Kelsey has read absolutely nothing about how to go about it in a way that is healthy and not stressful. Kelsey originally said she wanted to wait to change the nighttime routine until after the move, around her second birthday in a month, because she didn’t want to time the weaning with a lot of other changes. That changed quickly when she wasn’t pregnant right away. I know people have strong feelings and different experiences, and while I don’t think I would want to be breastfeeding while pregnant (assuming I could get pregnant easily while breastfeeding), I certainly wouldn’t want to be pregnant and moving if I could help it. If Kelsey had ever demonstrated an ability to take a logical and educated approach to anything, I would have more faith in any of her decision.

Corbin’s parents never struck me as the kind of people who could give their kids a hefty down payment. But assuming they did an FHA loan and only put 3.5% down, factoring in closing costs for an inexpensive house, that could in the ballpark of only $12-15K. And you don’t need good credit to qualify. It cracks me up that they keep talking about what a nightmare the Boise real estate market is…there are a ton of cute, updated single family homes for as little as $220K. I think during one of these rants they mentioned something about having to compete with all cash offers, which was something they couldn’t do. It’s still probably an awful financial decision- they will be paying PMI on top of interest, with very little equity in the house, and if his parents aren’t on the loan they aren’t benefiting from their credit score and they don’t have to bail him out when they’re income continues to drop and they can’t make their payments. Smart move on his parents’ part, Corbin could tank their credit if they co-sign anything with him.

[sasha186]

I am detecting controlling issues and anger in little Juniper , ofcourse it is not the babies fault she mirrors her parents like she does speech. She doesn’t seem to understand no and demands they cater immediately to what she wants and immediately angers if it does not happen. I am making it clear it is not the babies fault but is this what she is seeing and mirroring. Control and short fuse!?

Look, I'm not going to sit here and say that K&C are modeling perfect behavior for June, but she's a 2 year old. Not taking no for an answer and having tantrums when you don't get what you want is completely normal behavior. For Juniper. Not for Corbin, haha.

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I am detecting controlling issues and anger in little Juniper , ofcourse it is not the babies fault she mirrors her parents like she does speech. She doesn’t seem to understand no and demands they cater immediately to what she wants and immediately angers if it does not happen. I am making it clear it is not the babies fault but is this what she is seeing and mirroring. Control and short fuse!?

Look, I'm not going to sit here and say that K&C are modeling perfect behavior for June, but she's a 2 year old. Not taking no for an answer and having tantrums when you don't get what you want is completely normal behavior. For Juniper. Not for Corbin, haha.

Yes ofcourse but having a child near that age myself I see how she mirrors our behavior and I always had a smiling happy child, I don’t get why June keeps making pouting angry looks! Corbin also spoke to her and she gave him the silent treatment, I didn’t have that experience with mine, yes every child is different but she is only 3 and Corbin admitted she hits him and other children she strikes out! I was just wondering why?

[Playsinrain]

I am detecting controlling issues and anger in little Juniper , ofcourse it is not the babies fault she mirrors her parents like she does speech. She doesn’t seem to understand no and demands they cater immediately to what she wants and immediately angers if it does not happen. I am making it clear it is not the babies fault but is this what she is seeing and mirroring. Control and short fuse!?

Look, I'm not going to sit here and say that K&C are modeling perfect behavior for June, but she's a 2 year old. Not taking no for an answer and having tantrums when you don't get what you want is completely normal behavior. For Juniper. Not for Corbin, haha.

Yes ofcourse but having a child near that age myself I see how she mirrors our behavior and I always had a smiling happy child, I don’t get why June keeps making pouting angry looks! Corbin also spoke to her and she gave him the silent treatment, I didn’t have that experience with mine, yes every child is different but she is only 3 and Corbin admitted she hits him and other children she strikes out! I was just wondering why?

totally could be lack of discipline as well. I didn't put up with bad attitudes from my kids as toddlers (within reason of course) and one thing my kids got tired of hearing from me was "You get what you get and you don't get upset". My kids would be punished for lashing out physically as well, bc it's unacceptable. I have a feeling June doesn't hear No enough.... 2 year olds are assholes by nature lol but they are plenty old enough to learn that's not how we act. they also mimic behaviors, so your point isn't completely lost on me, but lack of discipline is what i think is the issue here.

[ewokfan11]

They KEEP mentioning there are super stressful things going on BTS. Granted, their definition of "stressful" is having to do ANYTHING other than veg all day, but I still wonder what's stressing them out.

I would imagine Corbin's parents are pressuring him to find a more stable job or maybe trying to get Kelsey to look for work. I wouldn't be surprised if Kelsey's mom is after Corbin in regard to work as well.

I'm still curious how they managed to get this house. Maybe his parents are cosigners and he's trying to hide that fact—I wouldn't be surprised. I would think their low and inconsistent income wouldn't even qualify them for a mortgage. They rarely get brand deals and their YT views wouldn't be enough to survive off of alone.

(Side note: I just finished my taxes, which included several freelance projects and it was a hassle because of all the expense records. As they are full-time self-employed, their taxes must be a NIGHTMARE! I'm curious how much they owe. Sure, they can write-off some expenses, but not everything. Plus I don't think they can write off any home office space expenses while living in the RV, Maui or with their parents (LOL!)...because they weren't paying any rent. They technically should also be paying taxes on ANYTHING that was sent to them for free—like the camera and kit—but I bet they don't. Also, they should be paying both California and Idaho state taxes since they moved and established residency by voting in November. Sucks to be them.)

[sasha186]

Look, I'm not going to sit here and say that K&C are modeling perfect behavior for June, but she's a 2 year old. Not taking no for an answer and having tantrums when you don't get what you want is completely normal behavior. For Juniper. Not for Corbin, haha.

Yes ofcourse but having a child near that age myself I see how she mirrors our behavior and I always had a smiling happy child, I don’t get why June keeps making pouting angry looks! Corbin also spoke to her and she gave him the silent treatment, I didn’t have that experience with mine, yes every child is different but she is only 3 and Corbin admitted she hits him and other children she strikes out! I was just wondering why?

totally could be lack of discipline as well. I didn't put up with bad attitudes from my kids as toddlers (within reason of course) and one thing my kids got tired of hearing from me was "You get what you get and you don't get upset". My kids would be punished for lashing out physically as well, bc it's unacceptable. I have a feeling June doesn't hear No enough.... 2 year olds are assholes by nature lol but they are plenty old enough to learn that's not how we act. they also mimic behaviors, so your point isn't completely lost on me, but lack of discipline is what i think is the issue here.

I dunno, I just can't get behind this. I discipline my 2 year old, but she still acts out when she's upset/cranky/tired/hungry/etc., and she doesn't just turn off bad behavior when we are in public or with other people. In my opinion, Juniper's behavior is just toddler behavior that happens to occur during vlog moments. Why they choose to include it or talk about her hitting I don't know. Probably because they are both pretty big dummies.

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cliffhanger for the house seriously? Like how we have been getting such great interesting exciting vlogs that we now have a cliffhanger? Also who gets the keys to a house and has a packed car ready to move in? Wouldn’t one think you would like to clean a bit up or maybe at least change the locks for safety reasons!? Me thinks they had already moved in and were back to pick up their stuff from Gg and pretended it was the move! Even K says there is a room for you , they had set up already me thinks and dragging it out!

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

cliffhanger for the house seriously? Like how we have been getting such great interesting exciting vlogs that we now have a cliffhanger? Also who gets the keys to a house and has a packed car ready to move in? Wouldn’t one think you would like to clean a bit up or maybe at least change the locks for safety reasons!? Me thinks they had already moved in and were back to pick up their stuff from Gg and pretended it was the move! Even K says there is a room for you , they had set up already me thinks and dragging it out!

Ive gone with a car packed full of cleaning supplies, even if it looks clean Ive always cleaned it myself when we've gotten the keys. Even our new builds haha.

[ewokfan11]

cliffhanger for the house seriously? Like how we have been getting such great interesting exciting vlogs that we now have a cliffhanger? Also who gets the keys to a house and has a packed car ready to move in? Wouldn’t one think you would like to clean a bit up or maybe at least change the locks for safety reasons!? Me thinks they had already moved in and were back to pick up their stuff from Gg and pretended it was the move! Even K says there is a room for you , they had set up already me thinks and dragging it out!

Ive gone with a car packed full of cleaning supplies, even if it looks clean Ive always cleaned it myself when we've gotten the keys. Even our new builds haha.

I agree. I've done the same. Gone over and dropped off some basics, including cleaning stuff, teepee, paper towels, water/drinks in the fridge before the actual big move.

Kelsey already said she wanted to move in the same day, so I'm sure the car was packed with the stuff when they got the keys. Maybe you missed yesterday's vlog when Kelsey was adamant they were moving in as soon as they got the keys even if they had to sleep on the floor. They have an entire storage unit to move, so they definitely only moved their basics in the car.

I think they must have worn out their welcome with their families and were desperate to leave.

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cliffhanger for the house seriously? Like how we have been getting such great interesting exciting vlogs that we now have a cliffhanger? Also who gets the keys to a house and has a packed car ready to move in? Wouldn’t one think you would like to clean a bit up or maybe at least change the locks for safety reasons!? Me thinks they had already moved in and were back to pick up their stuff from Gg and pretended it was the move! Even K says there is a room for you , they had set up already me thinks and dragging it out!

Ive gone with a car packed full of cleaning supplies, even if it looks clean Ive always cleaned it myself when we've gotten the keys. Even our new builds haha.

Haha so true same here we built our own everything was spotless yet I took to everything shelves toilets everything was cleaned over before we moved in!

[lavenderlove]

Yes ofcourse but having a child near that age myself I see how she mirrors our behavior and I always had a smiling happy child, I don’t get why June keeps making pouting angry looks! Corbin also spoke to her and she gave him the silent treatment, I didn’t have that experience with mine, yes every child is different but she is only 3 and Corbin admitted she hits him and other children she strikes out! I was just wondering why?

totally could be lack of discipline as well. I didn't put up with bad attitudes from my kids as toddlers (within reason of course) and one thing my kids got tired of hearing from me was "You get what you get and you don't get upset". My kids would be punished for lashing out physically as well, bc it's unacceptable. I have a feeling June doesn't hear No enough.... 2 year olds are assholes by nature lol but they are plenty old enough to learn that's not how we act. they also mimic behaviors, so your point isn't completely lost on me, but lack of discipline is what i think is the issue here.

I dunno, I just can't get behind this. I discipline my 2 year old, but she still acts out when she's upset/cranky/tired/hungry/etc., and she doesn't just turn off bad behavior when we are in public or with other people. In my opinion, Juniper's behavior is just toddler behavior that happens to occur during vlog moments. Why they choose to include it or talk about her hitting I don't know. Probably because they are both pretty big dummies.

Thank you! I'm totally with you on this! I had the sweetest, easiest, happiest baby.... And then she turned 18 months, and she's a monster. She has 2 loving parents, a stable home, I try to find a balance of parenting wifh love anf discipline. Nope. She's still 2 and a punk a lot of times. I'm trying not to read into it and just accept that it's a phase and to stay consistent. I am no fan k and c, but I gotta say I can't agree that June's toddler behavior is because she's modeling what she sees. 2 year olds are assholes!

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[lmmomSD]

Look, I'm not going to sit here and say that K&C are modeling perfect behavior for June, but she's a 2 year old. Not taking no for an answer and having tantrums when you don't get what you want is completely normal behavior. For Juniper. Not for Corbin, haha.

Yes ofcourse but having a child near that age myself I see how she mirrors our behavior and I always had a smiling happy child, I don’t get why June keeps making pouting angry looks! Corbin also spoke to her and she gave him the silent treatment, I didn’t have that experience with mine, yes every child is different but she is only 3 and Corbin admitted she hits him and other children she strikes out! I was just wondering why?

totally could be lack of discipline as well. I didn't put up with bad attitudes from my kids as toddlers (within reason of course) and one thing my kids got tired of hearing from me was "You get what you get and you don't get upset". My kids would be punished for lashing out physically as well, bc it's unacceptable. I have a feeling June doesn't hear No enough.... 2 year olds are assholes by nature lol but they are plenty old enough to learn that's not how we act. they also mimic behaviors, so your point isn't completely lost on me, but lack of discipline is what i think is the issue here.

Yeah, my kids caught on pretty quickly that tantrums didn't get them what they want. Of course, they weren't perfect, but they definitely knew what was and wasn't expected as far as behavior goes. Even at 2. Some acting out is to be expected, of course. But if you are setting consistent boundaries, they learn.

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[ewokfan11]

First of all, I think the ending of today's vlog was staged! Kelsey and Corbin AND June were all wearing different outfits earlier in the day...and it looks like the door to his parents' house. And they got ONE key? And Kelsey is just wearing socks opening the door? LOL, staged. What's new?

If you look online you can see the houses that sold yesterday in Ada County. There is definitely one that I'm pretty sure is their house. There really isn't much in their price range, so there are only two that seem like realistic possibilities. The one I'm guessing is their house sold for $202K.