ThisGatheredNest | Part 2
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I think for a youtuber she doesn't get a ton of critisim but she is extremely over sensitive. Like sometimes people are just asking questions not trolling like she got stroppy that people kept asking where k and s were i don't think peoole were actually implying anything just they are nice kind girls and enjoyable to watch etc. Or asking if N and J were 'really' brothers poor wording sure but on her adoption video she practically claimed they were giving their kids emotional issues and that is overkill. Like people say Rosie is lacking attention and her response is 'hurt people, hurt people' just so defensive.
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I agree! I also thought the rant she went on because of the question "Do you know if their birth parents watch your videos" was kind of weird. That is a legit question she couldve answered without getting into detail!Beccaboom22 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:25 am I think for a youtuber she doesn't get a ton of critisim but she is extremely over sensitive. Like sometimes people are just asking questions not trolling like she got stroppy that people kept asking where k and s were i don't think peoole were actually implying anything just they are nice kind girls and enjoyable to watch etc. Or asking if N and J were 'really' brothers poor wording sure but on her adoption video she practically claimed they were giving their kids emotional issues and that is overkill. Like people say Rosie is lacking attention and her response is 'hurt people, hurt people' just so defensive.
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after listening to their latest podcast episode, i really think they are not giving their children many opportunities to make friends at all. they don't go to school, most of them don't have any outside activities, they aren't allowed to go to anyone's house, they can't have a cell phone etc. the fact of the matter is, everybody (with the exception of some who are not neurotypical) wants to have friends. even if they have a lot of siblings they are close to, they still want outside interaction. i feel like if you are restricting your children from making friends and being around other people, you really are failing them as a parent.
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I binged on a bunch of videos last night while I worked, her tone has definitely changed in the past month. I agree she seems butthurt about a lot of things, especially the homeschooling. I think she might need a break, there must be some fallout for content creators with this coronavirus. She’s pushing out so much content, it’s starting to just be long-winded rants and showing off Benjamin.
I don’t want to get into religion so much, but I’m surprised she would potentially want more kids if the situation arose. God’s will could also be for her to have a mental breakdown and jump off a cliff, would that be something she just accepts? I grew up Catholic but identify as agnostic now. Maybe I’m being silly, but I think you have to realize when enough kids is enough. It’s really about your current kids needing proper attention and care, not your personal fulfillment of saving as many kids as possible.
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I don’t want to get into religion so much, but I’m surprised she would potentially want more kids if the situation arose. God’s will could also be for her to have a mental breakdown and jump off a cliff, would that be something she just accepts? I grew up Catholic but identify as agnostic now. Maybe I’m being silly, but I think you have to realize when enough kids is enough. It’s really about your current kids needing proper attention and care, not your personal fulfillment of saving as many kids as possible.
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Agreed! I don’t know how that invades their privacy and adoption details either and if you aren’t sure you just say I don’t know.alexmorgan wrote:I agree! I also thought the rant she went on because of the question "Do you know if their birth parents watch your videos" was kind of weird. That is a legit question she couldve answered without getting into detail!Beccaboom22 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:25 am I think for a youtuber she doesn't get a ton of critisim but she is extremely over sensitive. Like sometimes people are just asking questions not trolling like she got stroppy that people kept asking where k and s were i don't think peoole were actually implying anything just they are nice kind girls and enjoyable to watch etc. Or asking if N and J were 'really' brothers poor wording sure but on her adoption video she practically claimed they were giving their kids emotional issues and that is overkill. Like people say Rosie is lacking attention and her response is 'hurt people, hurt people' just so defensive.
Rosie and Noah are from orphanages so no.
The twins bio parents don’t know they exist.
So the question is for Angie. Did you say you did youtube for Jonah and Benji? Jonah is a toss up but I bet Benji’s mom knows they did YouTube. So it’s possible for at least him.
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I can't believe anyone's letting Ashleigh's crazy ass be a foster mom - the woman had a homebirth with no medical professional present on purpose! CPS should be involved with her kids. I don't see how someone with 7 kids could be available enough to meet the needs of a child who has been through that kind of trauma.lefargen97 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:09 am I've been watching old vlogs and i can't help but feel like angie is weirdly competitive with her sister when it comes to having kids??? like one has a child, and the other feels the need to have one too, like they are one-upping each other. angie adopted benjamin and now her sister is about to become a foster mom. their huge families are definitely influenced by each other.
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Yes, that’s a cop-out answer. I think she could have answered the same way you did and it would have come across much better and less defensive. I would not be surprised at all if Benji’s birth mom is fully aware he is on Youtube, it might have been a selling point for her to pick the Braniffs.devilishtenshi wrote:Agreed! I don’t know how that invades their privacy and adoption details either and if you aren’t sure you just say I don’t know.alexmorgan wrote:I agree! I also thought the rant she went on because of the question "Do you know if their birth parents watch your videos" was kind of weird. That is a legit question she couldve answered without getting into detail!Beccaboom22 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:25 am I think for a youtuber she doesn't get a ton of critisim but she is extremely over sensitive. Like sometimes people are just asking questions not trolling like she got stroppy that people kept asking where k and s were i don't think peoole were actually implying anything just they are nice kind girls and enjoyable to watch etc. Or asking if N and J were 'really' brothers poor wording sure but on her adoption video she practically claimed they were giving their kids emotional issues and that is overkill. Like people say Rosie is lacking attention and her response is 'hurt people, hurt people' just so defensive.
Rosie and Noah are from orphanages so no.
The twins bio parents don’t know they exist.
So the question is for Angie. Did you say you did youtube for Jonah and Benji? Jonah is a toss up but I bet Benji’s mom knows they did YouTube. So it’s possible for at least him.
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She kind of did the same with the accusation that they keep adopting kids for the government money, Obviously her critics are talking about tax deductions, which the parents could claim $16,000 a year for their 8 kids. Benji is another $2000 a year, but Angie wouldn’t admit to it. And there’s no reason to be defensive about it, the costs of raising him are far beyond $2000 a year.
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Jonah was a domestic infant adoption like Benji i get the impression he was abandoned at the hospital as he was already born when they were chosen to adopt him and she never mentions a birthmom like she does with Benji.
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If he wasn’t abandoned the mother at the very least decided she didn’t want to parent afterall right after birth. If he was actually abandoned I would guess his birth mom wouldn’t watch the vlogs.Beccaboom22 wrote:Jonah was a domestic infant adoption like Benji i get the impression he was abandoned at the hospital as he was already born when they were chosen to adopt him and she never mentions a birthmom like she does with Benji.
So do we think they have an open adoption with Benji? Or closed? I’m guessing it’s open at a bare minimum level (photos sent every so often type open)
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Thanks. I still think it's great that they decided to adopt kids, but she should just stop and focus on giving them emotional security and the care they need (esp Rosie), instead of collecting babies right and left.Beccaboom22 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:19 am Jonah was a domestic infant adoption like Benji i get the impression he was abandoned at the hospital as he was already born when they were chosen to adopt him and she never mentions a birthmom like she does with Benji.
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Considering they honored Benjanmins birth mothers request to use Arkeem as a middle name, much to Angies annoyance, I would say the adoption is open of some kind.
I would imagine the twins bio parents do know they exist in some capacity, atleast that the eggs were used.
I would imagine the twins bio parents do know they exist in some capacity, atleast that the eggs were used.
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I once asked in a Youtube comment if they would share some of the process of adopting embryos. As a parent with a handful of frozen embryos left, I really want to adopt them out, once this pandemic passes. She answered a few videos later that she wouldn’t go into detail, per her silence on the birth families. It’s kind a shame, I think she could really be a beacon of information for embryo adoption, from both the bio parent and adoptive parent angles.
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This might be an unpopular opinion but I think it's disgusting that her kids don't all get a bath or shower everyday. She has three in diapers, the boys are very active, the two oldest girls are getting in their teenager years which means periods, discovering their bodies. That sounds creepy but that's just reality, if not now it's coming. Angie said in a comment that if they all had a bath or shower, their water bill would be crazy and they would spend all night doing that. Well yeah kids cost money and take time.
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I hope that she “allows” the girls to take a shower if they want to and the older boys as well. I can’t stand when kids are “stinky” beyond a certain point.Espeon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:22 am This might be an unpopular opinion but I think it's disgusting that her kids don't all get a bath or shower everyday. She has three in diapers, the boys are very active, the two oldest girls are getting in their teenager years which means periods, discovering their bodies. That sounds creepy but that's just reality, if not now it's coming. Angie said in a comment that if they all had a bath or shower, their water bill would be crazy and they would spend all night doing that. Well yeah kids cost money and take time.
Just bath and shower and maybe cut back on other crap.
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I have a stepson and son going through puberty and two toddlers they all NEED a shower or bath everyday trust me. The big boys sweat and get stinky feet and the babies get sticky from, paints outdoor play eating etc. Again not being creepy but surely her teens sweat now they are older. Jonah and Benji were dragging across the floor the other day the floor looked clean bug its still the floor.
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I’m not an expert but this is my understanding of the process (if anyone knows for sure I’m wrong tell me! I’m curious). I always assumed if you donated your eggs they are no longer your property and you wouldn’t know if they we’re used or not. They belong to the agency or hospital or whoever stores them. On another note... She said they the twins were in storage for 10 years right? Or did I make that up ? LolWheresMyCoffee wrote:Considering they honored Benjanmins birth mothers request to use Arkeem as a middle name, much to Angies annoyance, I would say the adoption is open of some kind.
I would imagine the twins bio parents do know they exist in some capacity, atleast that the eggs were used.
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I 100% respect that Angie doesn’t want to give out too many details of her children’s past... but she goes overboard. That information imo is nothing to do with her twins! That’s just the process! “We went to blah blah blah and this is how we chose the eggs. From our understanding all eggs there were given because of X,Y,Z” fill in any general missing information and things to consider. That has nothing to do with the twins’s stories???Tweedles3 wrote:I once asked in a Youtube comment if they would share some of the process of adopting embryos. As a parent with a handful of frozen embryos left, I really want to adopt them out, once this pandemic passes. She answered a few videos later that she wouldn’t go into detail, per her silence on the birth families. It’s kind a shame, I think she could really be a beacon of information for embryo adoption, from both the bio parent and adoptive parent angles.
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Again, I respect that she isn’t saying things like “This is Jonah’s mother’s story and why he was in an orphanage. This is what he had to deal with there and this is why he was there and blah blah blah” because maybe when he is older he wouldn’t want that whole story out there with more than general details we all know. But she censors things that could be useful to know for some people
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Yes, this exactly! I think she could share some of the process without going into real details. I would never ask if the twins had older siblings, does the bio family live in the US, would you consider having the twins meet their bio parents and siblings, etc. Understandably, that is all personal to their family and Angie and CR will have to field those questions eventually with the twins themselves. I’m more curious about how they started their search, did they see detailed portfolios of possible families with embryos to adopt, are the bio parents aware the twins exist. Nothing really pertaining to the girls, but the process. And as someone who has embryos to donate, I have a hard time finding any info on how to start, how to find a family, am I able to set parameters for open/closed, etc.devilishtenshi wrote:I 100% respect that Angie doesn’t want to give out too many details of her children’s past... but she goes overboard. That information imo is nothing to do with her twins! That’s just the process! “We went to blah blah blah and this is how we chose the eggs. From our understanding all eggs there were given because of X,Y,Z” fill in any general missing information and things to consider. That has nothing to do with the twins’s stories???Tweedles3 wrote:I once asked in a Youtube comment if they would share some of the process of adopting embryos. As a parent with a handful of frozen embryos left, I really want to adopt them out, once this pandemic passes. She answered a few videos later that she wouldn’t go into detail, per her silence on the birth families. It’s kind a shame, I think she could really be a beacon of information for embryo adoption, from both the bio parent and adoptive parent angles.
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Again, I respect that she isn’t saying things like “This is Jonah’s mother’s story and why he was in an orphanage. This is what he had to deal with there and this is why he was there and blah blah blah” because maybe when he is older he wouldn’t want that whole story out there with more than general details we all know. But she censors things that could be useful to know for some people
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I used the word “bio” a lot, and it feels like this is one those descriptors Angie detests, like “real” in reference to her family. And as someone who always reminds her audience that adoption is born of loss, I kind of wish she would acknowledge the families that helped her family become what it is. Not by name or anything, but maybe just show gratitude for the courage and love it takes to part with your babies, or your embryos. She kind of has in the past but her video on the Youtube stuff came across like a STFU, we aren’t going to talk about it.
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Ewwww that’s gross. We literally saw all the things that Angie decluttered that money was wasted on, and yet the water bill would be too high.....a shower doesn’t take too long, especially the boys. The older girls should be able to take their time but I still can’t imagine it taking too long. The twins would probably take the longest if they like playing in the bath like my toddler does, but even after 10 minutes she’s bored with it. Showering also doesn’t only have to happen at night. Hygiene is super important. I know it’s better for your skin to not shower every single day but if they’re outside and doing things that make them sweaty it’s not hygienic to go to sleep dirty.Amsouthernbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:40 amI hope that she “allows” the girls to take a shower if they want to and the older boys as well. I can’t stand when kids are “stinky” beyond a certain point.Espeon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:22 am This might be an unpopular opinion but I think it's disgusting that her kids don't all get a bath or shower everyday. She has three in diapers, the boys are very active, the two oldest girls are getting in their teenager years which means periods, discovering their bodies. That sounds creepy but that's just reality, if not now it's coming. Angie said in a comment that if they all had a bath or shower, their water bill would be crazy and they would spend all night doing that. Well yeah kids cost money and take time.
Just bath and shower and maybe cut back on other crap.