8 Passengers: No Rules & Private Schools | Part 9

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And they’re cleaned with the same towel that kids use to wipe their mouth after they brush their teeth and wipe up the floor after a shower!


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No. You heard that wrong. When she said "the kids will actually use them" she was referring to using them for cleaning rather than chemicals. They don't use the microfiber cloths for wiping their face. Every morning after they brush their teeth they have to dry their sinks, then dry the floor and wipe the toilet and it goes in to the dirty laundry hamper. They use their regular towels to dry their bodies. The microfibers are for keeping their bathroom clean.

It was a joke...


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I think the cloths are the least of her disgusting behavior,someone mentioned the programme on Netflix Abducted in plain sight! And Ruby still films the girls legs rear ends etc she is disgusting and more so Kevin for allowing her to exploit his girls!

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I’m glad when achad mentioned the cell phone and Ruby said when your six chad said. Sherri is not 16

[LilaRose]

Did she say 50 bucks for every A? For every kid in every test?

[petey_patches]

I teach 1st grade and for some reason I have a hard time believing Russell went from a D to an N in his reading...


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[Catface2]

Chad called her out on basically playing favorites. Ya...kids will pick up on that shit and actually end up resenting the other sibling. Not cool. Didn’t know you can take tangled necklaces to a jewelry store to untangle them..I’ve always did it myself with a bit of dawn dish soap and toothpick and patience. Hmmm

[Catface2]

I teach 1st grade and for some reason I have a hard time believing Russell went from a D to an N in his reading...


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He most likely tested wrong in the beginning of the year

[Kattiness Everdeen]

I teach 1st grade and for some reason I have a hard time believing Russell went from a D to an N in his reading...


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He most likely tested wrong in the beginning of the year

Who knows. I don't really trust anything Ruby presents us with anymore. I think she is just now realizing that it isn't cute to have kids fail out of school, and that the parents are supposed to care (even if they are girls). Paying $50 an A is an insane departure from what the family has done in the past. How about trying tutors and parental involvement first?

She has made the older kids work so hard that they already have money, but as Chad noted, he isn't allowed the freedom to spend it. I wonder if Chad will intentionally get worse grades as a way to manipulate them into letting him get the phone now....

Also, why does Ruby think it is an admirable personality trait that her kids are terrified to tell her they don't have any shoes that fit. First Julie wearing sandals in the snow pretending it was no big deal, now Abby apologizing her feet are crammed into tiny school shoes. Maybe provide your kids quality food and shoes, and they can focus on school without spending thousands of dollars on report card payoffs each quarter?

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Also, on the topic of Shari's strange proportions....she did a "not my arms challenge" with Abby and for the first time ever, it looked realistic, because of the arm proportions looked about right!

Ruby and Kevin were also making fun of the way she runs in a recent vlog, which is terrible, but also another indication about her growth situation. You have to get the momentum going somehow, with short arms and legs! I did feel bad for her though, with her parents having such a huge laugh at her expense.

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Mother of the year ,adviser to teens mothers and all ! Shocker send the message to you children to get excited about learning,about enrichment of the brain,about how you will hold yourself in a group of your peers ,is all about earning a dollar!?
How more low can this one brain cell mom stoop and where is the PHD professor in all this? All she cares about is the school and how her kids will be viewed as failures because it will reflect on her as having given them nothing apart from chores and music lessons! You NEVER EVER bribe a child with money to do well in school ever! You HELP them! Her kids are terrified of coming to her about shoes dear Lord ! KEVIN WAKE UP!

[ujvs_]

This woman confuses the hell out of me. One minute Ruby is telling us how Abby never complains and gets on with things, and the next she’s telling her that if she needs something she needs to tell her. What? Also good for Chad for calling Ruby out, at least he can see when she’s at fault.

[HelloSweetie]

Mother of the year ,adviser to teens mothers and all ! Shocker send the message to you children to get excited about learning,about enrichment of the brain,about how you will hold yourself in a group of your peers ,is all about earning a dollar!?
How more low can this one brain cell mom stoop and where is the PHD professor in all this? All she cares about is the school and how her kids will be viewed as failures because it will reflect on her as having given them nothing apart from chores and music lessons! You NEVER EVER bribe a child with money to do well in school ever! You HELP them! Her kids are terrified of coming to her about shoes dear Lord ! KEVIN WAKE UP!

You absolutely can incentivize a child to accomplish something by bribing them. A little extra motivation isn’t a bad thing. Whatever works. She just needs to be prepared to offer the same incentive to all the children, and help get the kids like Russell a tutor if they need it to succeed.

I think this one is a big deal over nothing. Plus can we stop talking about a 15 year old’s body? Growing up in hay family Shari is going to have enough body issues without one day stumbling upon here and having all her imperfections pointed out to her. She didn’t ask to be put on YT.

[freshbalsam]

Mother of the year ,adviser to teens mothers and all ! Shocker send the message to you children to get excited about learning,about enrichment of the brain,about how you will hold yourself in a group of your peers ,is all about earning a dollar!?
How more low can this one brain cell mom stoop and where is the PHD professor in all this? All she cares about is the school and how her kids will be viewed as failures because it will reflect on her as having given them nothing apart from chores and music lessons! You NEVER EVER bribe a child with money to do well in school ever! You HELP them! Her kids are terrified of coming to her about shoes dear Lord ! KEVIN WAKE UP!

You absolutely can incentivize a child to accomplish something by bribing them. A little extra motivation isn’t a bad thing. Whatever works. She just needs to be prepared to offer the same incentive to all the children, and help get the kids like Russell a tutor if they need it to succeed.

I think this one is a big deal over nothing. Plus can we stop talking about a 15 year old’s body? Growing up in hay family Shari is going to have enough body issues without one day stumbling upon here and having all her imperfections pointed out to her. She didn’t ask to be put on YT.

Agreed. My mom actually paid us for our A’s when we reached high school as well (not 50 dollars though) and it was a HUGE incentive to do well. When starting college, we already had the discipline that we built from high school to continue to do well, and like Ruby said, it pays off in student grants/scholarships. I don’t think she needs to be paying the children who are still in elementary school, as they only really receive grades of satisfactory, below, etc. If she had intervened early on, maybe her children wouldn’t be suffering in their academics.

I think she could’ve done a better job explaining to Chad why he wouldn’t be getting a phone for an A in a class. I wonder if they are keeping him at an age limit (16) compared to Shari who’s had an iPhone for while because he’s not as responsible. Ruby could’ve explained that to him. I don’t think it’s wrong to say no to a phone even though his sister has one because Shari is clearly able to use her phone leisurely while also keeping her school work on par. If that makes sense.

[HelloSweetie]

Agreed. My mom actually paid us for our A’s when we reached high school as well (not 50 dollars though) and it was a HUGE incentive to do well. When starting college, we already had the discipline that we built from high school to continue to do well, and like Ruby said, it pays off in student grants/scholarships. I don’t think she needs to be paying the children who are still in elementary school, as they only really receive grades of satisfactory, below, etc. If she had intervened early on, maybe her children wouldn’t be suffering in their academics.

I think she could’ve done a better job explaining to Chad why he wouldn’t be getting a phone for an A in a class. I wonder if they are keeping him at an age limit (16) compared to Shari who’s had an iPhone for while because he’s not as responsible. Ruby could’ve explained that to him. I don’t think it’s wrong to say no to a phone even though his sister has one because Shari is clearly able to use her phone leisurely while also keeping her school work on par. If that makes sense.

I’ve seen it work too. My bestie received $100 for every A in high school, and she was the top of the class every year. She would dream about how she was going to spend the money a lot, so it was definitely a motivator for her.


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So rude of Chad to cut Ruby’s cake because he was hungry. How did he not know that cutting someone else’s cake first on their birthday is rude?! I also can’t stand the constant shrieking over the tiniest things.
You’d think they were being sponsored by the author of that book Ruby keeps hyping up as well.

[fossilfinger]

Agreed. My mom actually paid us for our A’s when we reached high school as well (not 50 dollars though) and it was a HUGE incentive to do well. When starting college, we already had the discipline that we built from high school to continue to do well, and like Ruby said, it pays off in student grants/scholarships. I don’t think she needs to be paying the children who are still in elementary school, as they only really receive grades of satisfactory, below, etc. If she had intervened early on, maybe her children wouldn’t be suffering in their academics.

I’ve seen it work too. My bestie received $100 for every A in high school, and she was the top of the class every year. She would dream about how she was going to spend the money a lot, so it was definitely a motivator for her.

But does incentivizing a child who doesn't understand the classwork going to work? It will only work for students who already comprehend the material and are capable of doing the work, and who would probably have received decent grades anyway, to just work a bit harder to get even higher grades. It's not going to work for a child who's failing because they're behind their classmates. It sounds like some of Ruby's kids could use extra help. Paying kids for schoolwork/externalizing rewards also doesn't teach them to be proud of their work, and does teach them to base some of their worth on grades, which they shouldn't do. The entire motivation to do this is just misplaced. You can't take a kid who is incapable of comprehending work and suddenly turn them into a straight-A student just by offering them money. This doesn't touch the fundamental issue here - that they need additional support to get there.

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Agreed. My mom actually paid us for our A’s when we reached high school as well (not 50 dollars though) and it was a HUGE incentive to do well. When starting college, we already had the discipline that we built from high school to continue to do well, and like Ruby said, it pays off in student grants/scholarships. I don’t think she needs to be paying the children who are still in elementary school, as they only really receive grades of satisfactory, below, etc. If she had intervened early on, maybe her children wouldn’t be suffering in their academics.

I’ve seen it work too. My bestie received $100 for every A in high school, and she was the top of the class every year. She would dream about how she was going to spend the money a lot, so it was definitely a motivator for her.

But does incentivizing a child who doesn't understand the classwork going to work? It will only work for students who already comprehend the material and are capable of doing the work, and who would probably have received decent grades anyway, to just work a bit harder to get even higher grades. It's not going to work for a child who's failing because they're behind their classmates. It sounds like some of Ruby's kids could use extra help. Paying kids for schoolwork/externalizing rewards also doesn't teach them to be proud of their work, and does teach them to base some of their worth on grades, which they shouldn't do. The entire motivation to do this is just misplaced. You can't take a kid who is incapable of comprehending work and suddenly turn them into a straight-A student just by offering them money. This doesn't touch the fundamental issue here - that they need additional support to get there.

Absolutely spot on,I could not have expressed it better myself,ofcourse there is incentive and it does work with some but what is the level of depth learning and As mean nothing,most successful people later in life averaged between 70 to 80% not straight A students but that is besides the point like the above post says ,where is pride in your effort,where is an interest in learning?

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Now with her youtube success Ruby’s solutions to everything is to throw money at it so the least is needed to deal with it! Can’t organize my house bring in someone to do it,Kevin doesn’t let me build a house like Ellie’s I will rip the garden apart and change the inside to closly resemble hers. Kids I driving me mad buy them expensive electronics to leave me alone! Kevin is always off somewhere take him to Hawaii where he can’t escape his family! My sister got Jewelry buy me a giant diamond ring. Her solution to her every issue is throw money at it!

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Mother of the year ,adviser to teens mothers and all ! Shocker send the message to you children to get excited about learning,about enrichment of the brain,about how you will hold yourself in a group of your peers ,is all about earning a dollar!?
How more low can this one brain cell mom stoop and where is the PHD professor in all this? All she cares about is the school and how her kids will be viewed as failures because it will reflect on her as having given them nothing apart from chores and music lessons! You NEVER EVER bribe a child with money to do well in school ever! You HELP them! Her kids are terrified of coming to her about shoes dear Lord ! KEVIN WAKE UP!

You absolutely can incentivize a child to accomplish something by bribing them. A little extra motivation isn’t a bad thing. Whatever works. She just needs to be prepared to offer the same incentive to all the children, and help get the kids like Russell a tutor if they need it to succeed.

I think this one is a big deal over nothing. Plus can we stop talking about a 15 year old’s body? Growing up in hay family Shari is going to have enough body issues without one day stumbling upon here and having all her imperfections pointed out to her. She didn’t ask to be put on YT.

Agreed. My mom actually paid us for our A’s when we reached high school as well (not 50 dollars though) and it was a HUGE incentive to do well. When starting college, we already had the discipline that we built from high school to continue to do well, and like Ruby said, it pays off in student grants/scholarships. I don’t think she needs to be paying the children who are still in elementary school, as they only really receive grades of satisfactory, below, etc. If she had intervened early on, maybe her children wouldn’t be suffering in their academics.

I think she could’ve done a better job explaining to Chad why he wouldn’t be getting a phone for an A in a class. I wonder if they are keeping him at an age limit (16) compared to Shari who’s had an iPhone for while because he’s not as responsible. Ruby could’ve explained that to him. I don’t think it’s wrong to say no to a phone even though his sister has one because Shari is clearly able to use her phone leisurely while also keeping her school work on par. If that makes sense.

Also, Shari asked to give up her iPhone at her own will, because she realized she was using it more than she should be, and it was getting in the way of her studies... That was rather grown up of her, being 13/14 at the time... something I honestly don't think Chad would do, since he gets so entranced with things, like Forrtnite, and then forgets the world exists. So, he would constantly be having his iPhone locked up, like his game system. The only reason Shari got another iPhone, is because she went with her Dad to Italy, and realized they couldn't text with her phone, from Italy. But, since then, she seems to be responsible with her phone usage. So, I do agree, if Ruby had sat down and spoke with Chad and said, "when you show more responsibility, we'll get you an iPhone too" I think he would have been fine with that... I see him improving, but... it's at his own pace. Nothing wrong with that.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

But does incentivizing a child who doesn't understand the classwork going to work? It will only work for students who already comprehend the material and are capable of doing the work, and who would probably have received decent grades anyway, to just work a bit harder to get even higher grades. It's not going to work for a child who's failing because they're behind their classmates. It sounds like some of Ruby's kids could use extra help. Paying kids for schoolwork/externalizing rewards also doesn't teach them to be proud of their work, and does teach them to base some of their worth on grades, which they shouldn't do. The entire motivation to do this is just misplaced. You can't take a kid who is incapable of comprehending work and suddenly turn them into a straight-A student just by offering them money. This doesn't touch the fundamental issue here - that they need additional support to get there.

Absolutely spot on,I could not have expressed it better myself,ofcourse there is incentive and it does work with some but what is the level of depth learning and As mean nothing,most successful people later in life averaged between 70 to 80% not straight A students but that is besides the point like the above post says ,where is pride in your effort,where is an interest in learning?

I have to agree with this too... (Sorry for the personal stuff here) my Mom tried to do the same type of thing with me and my sisters growing up, giving us things for good grades... just a $5 dollars for A's, and $3 for B's.. we weren't rich.. but, I was sick, and no one believed me (until I was 23 and finally diagnosed and had brain surgery).. so, EVERYTHING was so much harder for me... I had ADD really bad, I couldn't concentrate on anything, because of my sickness (which never got better post op, sadly)... so, I was always a C, D, F student... with A's in classes like art and music... because those were things that helped me escape the pain I was in daily. I used to get so depressed, when report cards came out, and I knew I wouldn't receive anything for my grades, and my sisters would both be getting at least $25 each. I always felt stupid, and that there was something wrong with me.. which there was... but, no one believed me. They just thought I was lazy, and if I tried harder, I would do better.

While I do think there's nothing wrong with giving kids incentive to do better in school... if they aren't, then the parent should do the best for the child, and look in to it. Maybe they have some form of dyslexia, maybe they have ADD/ADHD (which I don't think should be over diagnosed or overly treated), or maybe they have something like I have. I would hope that all parents would look further in to their kids bad grades, and not just chalk it up to them being lazy... but, Ruby doesn't seem like one of those parents.

[HelloSweetie]

Obviously the incentive needs to be tailored to each child. This goes for every situation, and not just school. Some kids respond to M&M’s during potty training, while others are fine with stickers as a reward.

I don’t like Ruby, but a Griffiths child being incentivized to do well in school isn’t something I’m ever going to nitpick. Absolutely they could do more for their kids, but the incentives are not in and of themselves the problem. Seems like a nitpick to me given that I’m sure no one can say they haven’t used their child’s “currency” as a bribe before.



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